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post #781 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Phacoman View Post
Is there an easy way to convert the protected files to unprotected?
Open iTunes and click on iTunes Plus. Of course it should have done that automatically when they rolled out iTunes Plus. There's a small fee per song to upgrade to DRM-free 256k AAC. The less easy way is to archive to CD.
post #782 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post
Open iTunes and click on iTunes Plus. Of course it should have done that automatically when they rolled out iTunes Plus. There's a small fee per song to upgrade to DRM-free 256k AAC. The less easy way is to archive to CD.
Can't find iTunes Plus. I must be an idiot. Sorry.
post #783 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Phacoman View Post

Can't find iTunes Plus. I must be an idiot. Sorry.

Open iTunes > iTunes Store look on right hand side in quick links area. Bottom one says iTunes Plus
post #784 of 3001
I just wanted to thank you guys for suggesting the Monoprice digital to analog audio convertor! I now have my pool/poker/bar room set up with AppleTV audio through zone 2, and I'm loving it!
post #785 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

Open iTunes and click on iTunes Plus. Of course it should have done that automatically when they rolled out iTunes Plus. There's a small fee per song to upgrade to DRM-free 256k AAC. The less easy way is to archive to CD.

be forewarned there may be issues there.... I have been trying to accomplish this with no luck for almost 2 years now. my GF bought over 1,200 songs that I wanted to upgrade. Unfortunately the apple store wont let me do them as a batch (Somethingis broken). Both the idiots (geniuses at the apple store) and the phone support people can't help. There best solution/answer is click on em 1 at a time.....

Sorry this just pisses me off. One of the 3 reasons I don't ever buy music from the apple store.

1. lower quality
2. download once an its your problem (no backup)
3. tough cookies if something goes wrong.... (like my siutation)

All my friends who work at apple all shrug their shoulders when I repeatedly mention how apple won't let me give em $300 to upgrade.

Sean
post #786 of 3001
I've searched the web and this thread and can't seem to find any resolution to my problem. I stream Netflix using my Apple TV (2nd gen), but nothing I stream plays with Dolby Digital sound. It's always stereo. I've tried "auto" and "on" for the Dolby Digital setting on the Apple TV, but nothing helps. My Marantz receiver HDMI setting appears to be set correctly. Is there something really obvious I'm missing?

Thanks in advance.
post #787 of 3001
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Originally Posted by nirvana_av View Post

I stream Netflix using my Apple TV (2nd gen), but nothing I stream plays with Dolby Digital sound. ... Is there something really obvious I'm missing?

Only that most (like 99%) Netflix content on the ATV-2g is in stereo.
post #788 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

Only that most (like 99%) Netflix content on the ATV-2g is in stereo.

+1,

you might check here for some in DD....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1297186

Sean
post #789 of 3001
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

+1,

you might check here for some in DD....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1297186

Sean

Thanks. That'll give me something to check my settings.
post #790 of 3001
My next issue that I haven't been able to resolve is that the Netflix streamed soundtrack volume is extremely low compared to playing other media and compared to other sources, such as my BD or DVD player.

Is there any fix other than turning your receiver up, WAY UP?

I searched the web and wasn't able to find anyone complaining of low volume.
post #791 of 3001
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Originally Posted by nirvana_av View Post

Thanks. That'll give me something to check my settings.

And please also note the stereo sound over netflix most always have do have dolby pro-logic embedded in them so make sure you're using the appopriate mode on your AVR and not the stereo mode on your AVR for best effects. Its not DD 5.1 but better than nothing.

Sean
post #792 of 3001
That did the trick. I successfully streamed a Dolby 5.1 bitstream from Netflix with the right movie title. Overall volume was also considerably better as well. I think Netflix is simply peeling off the L/R channels for the soundtrack of the vast majority of streamed content instead a proper down-mix.
post #793 of 3001
How many here are jailbroken ?

Xbmc is great
post #794 of 3001
I'm thinking about ditching my ATV because I just discovered something called VUDU. 1080p @ 24fps. I guess Walmart just bought it in March. I just watched one, & I have to say I was impressed. No monthly fee or membership either! Has anybody else compared it w/ ATV?
post #795 of 3001
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

I'm thinking about ditching my ATV because I just discovered something called VUDU. ... No monthly fee or membership either!

Vudu (Walmart) and Apple target different markets and by the way Apple doesn't charge a monthly fee. Perhaps you're confusing the ATV with another service.

Personally I get "new" releases on Blu-ray from Netflix or Redbox so I don't have to worry about watching a movie in a specific window. If I wanted to do that I'd use PPV/VOD from my provider. WRT to Vudu I don't have the bandwidth to use their 1080p HDX (i.e. recompressed) service.
post #796 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

Vudu (Walmart) and Apple target different markets and by the way Apple doesn't charge a monthly fee. Perhaps you're confusing the ATV with another service.

Personally I get "new" releases on Blu-ray from Netflix or Redbox so I don't have to worry about watching a movie in a specific window. If I wanted to do that I'd use PPV/VOD from my provider. WRT to Vudu I don't have the bandwidth to use their 1080p HDX (i.e. recompressed) service.

I was comparing the great picture quality to ATV(& the other streaming services). As far as the fees, I just pointed that advantage out due to Netflix, etc...
post #797 of 3001
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

I was comparing the great picture quality to ATV(& the other streaming services).

The ATV reproduces bandwidth-unconstrained sources up to 720p perfectly. External sources like Netflix depend on your bandwidth.
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As far as the fees, I just pointed that advantage out due to Netflix, etc...

Vudu isn't free so your comparison is flawed. I pay ~ $8/month to Netflix and get a blu-ray every week that I can keep for four days (assuming I want to get one a week). I don't have to worry about bandwidth or network issues, I often get extras and I get the original DTS-MA soundtrack.

As I said Vudu and Apple (and Netflix and Redbox) target different markets or, at best, different needs in similar markets.
post #798 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

The ATV reproduces bandwidth-unconstrained sources up to 720p perfectly. External sources like Netflix depend on your bandwidth. Vudu isn't free so your comparison is flawed. I pay ~ $8/month to Netflix and get a blu-ray every week that I can keep for four days (assuming I want to get one a week). I don't have to worry about bandwidth or network issues, I often get extras and I get the original DTS-MA soundtrack.

As I said Vudu and Apple (and Netflix and Redbox) target different markets or, at best, different needs in similar markets.

I don't have bandwidth (55mbps down/8up) or network issues(TV & blu-ray are hard-wired to my modem), and I don't have to return mail anything. I buy the blu-rays I really want/know are good. As far as different markets, it's logically irrelevant. I was pointing out that between streaming services(regardless of targeted markets) that the picture quality and the convenience factor were bigger advantages to me.
post #799 of 3001
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Originally Posted by rightintel
I'm thinking about ditching my ATV because I just discovered something called VUDU. 1080p @ 24fps. I guess Walmart just bought it in March. I just watched one, & I have to say I was impressed. No monthly fee or membership either! Has anybody else compared it w/ ATV?
The ATV as we all know does 720p. If you require 1080p then you go with another streamer such as a Boxee Box. For me the 720p limitation is worth it in order to fully use the ATV as an accessory to our iDevices. It also has the advantage of being an excellent Plex client. All players have a limitation and various streaming companies come and go. At some point many decide to go with a solution which fits in with their systems and where one thinks things are headed. Of course you don't get the optimal unit at any given time. But I got tired jumping around from player to player looking for paradise. Apple will eventually get to 1080p and beyond. I'm sure Walmart is busy designing the next video environment

Philip
post #800 of 3001
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

As far as different markets, it's logically irrelevant. I was pointing out that between streaming services(regardless of targeted markets) that the picture quality and the convenience factor were bigger advantages to me.

If everyone had everything none of it would matter but that's not how it is for most people. In any case your continued reference to streaming and streaming services like Vudu and Netflix simply underscore your failure to understand what Apple is currently doing. Netflix etc. are extras, the ATV + iTunes is not a "streaming" device connected to a "streaming" service. ATV to iTunes is a download system. It looks like streaming if you have enough bandwidth and there are no network problems (which in this contect has little or nothing to do with your in-home devices and how they might be connected) if not it's quite obvious that it's a download service.

This has already been discussed at some length in this thread. I'm confident that most people that purchased an ATV (or more than one) are aware of the various alternatives. Despite those alternatives Apple has probably sold more media boxes than all the other vendors combined because they understand their target market -- and you're not in it.
post #801 of 3001
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

The ATV as we all know does 720p. If you require 1080p then you go with another streamer such as a Boxee Box. For me the 720p limitation is worth it in order to fully use the ATV as an accessory to our iDevices. It also has the advantage of being an excellent Plex client. All players have a limitation and various streaming companies come and go. At some point many decide to go with a solution which fits in with their systems and where one thinks things are headed. Of course you don't get the optimal unit at any given time. But I got tired jumping around from player to player looking for paradise. Apple will eventually get to 1080p and beyond. I'm sure Walmart is busy designing the next video environment

Philip

My thoughts exactly.
post #802 of 3001
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Originally Posted by pmcd
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All players have a limitation and various streaming companies come and go. At some point many decide to go with a solution which fits in with their systems and where one thinks things are headed. Of course you don't get the optimal unit at any given time. But I got tired jumping around from player to player looking for paradise.
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Philip
I completely agree with that!

I would like to add that for me the aTV was the last component of a solution that completely replaced my aging HTPC (for iTunes music, rentals an purchased movies). It perfectly fits into my setup and I also have Netflix and integration with my wife's iPad as a bonus.

Last, but not least: I can go to great lengths tweaking this and that and setting up the "perfect" streaming/HTPC/etc. device/solution, but my wife refused to use almost all of the setups I came up with during the years and the ones she tried were always too cumbersome for her to operate despite my efforts (scripts, coding, Harmony One, etc.). Now she is happy with the aTV and she is using it without calling me all the time that something is not working or doesn't look like it is working...

Again, this is not to say that the aTV is the best, rather it is to say that it fits perfectly in my setup.
post #803 of 3001
Is it possible to stream any apps from my iPhone over the ATV?
For example, I'd love to stream my Sirius app over the ATV onto my stereo. I'm doubting this us possible but thought I'd ask anyway.
Would be great for pandora, etc...
post #804 of 3001
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Originally Posted by HaleMoana View Post

Is it possible to stream any apps from my iPhone over the ATV?
For example, I'd love to stream my Sirius app over the ATV onto my stereo. I'm doubting this us possible but thought I'd ask anyway.
Would be great for pandora, etc...

Sure its called airplay and works like a champ today.....

Sean
post #805 of 3001
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post


Sure its called airplay and works like a champ today.....

Sean

Can you please walk me through how to do this? Obviously I understand how to stream my iTunes with the Remote app... But not sure how to stream other apps from my iPod (such as Sirius, Pandora, Napster, etc...)

Thanks for helping.
post #806 of 3001
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Originally Posted by HaleMoana View Post

Can you please walk me through how to do this? Obviously I understand how to stream my iTunes with the Remote app

You need the a current release of iOS.

home sharing
and more
Airplay is like remote speakers
Airplay summary

The best way to Airplay is to bind the library to the iPod app. However you can't use Airplay from non-iOS devices like iPods. iPod app on your iPhone/iPad yes, iPod (Nano, Shuffle etc.) no.
post #807 of 3001
hhmmm... thanks for the links. Looks like my iTouch needs 4.3, but iTunes is telling me that my current 4.2.1 is the current version. Am I missing something here? This is the older iTouch without the camera or Facetime, etc...
post #808 of 3001
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Originally Posted by HaleMoana View Post

hhmmm... thanks for the links. Looks like my iTouch needs 4.3, but iTunes is telling me that my current 4.2.1 is the current version. Am I missing something here? This is the older iTouch without the camera or Facetime, etc...

When the Apps you want to use are active on the iDevice, there's an Airplay Icon in the lower right corner. Tapping it opens the menu of devices available to stream to. When i opne mine, 3 ATV2s and an Airport express which are all named according to the room they're in appear. I can choose any or all of the devices at any time. I use Pandora and LastFm daily from my iTouch 2g which did support the big iOS upgrade but has since been not supported by the most recent iOS.....which doesn't effect me in the least.
post #809 of 3001
nevermind... I have the 2nd generation iTouch and 4.3 is only available for 3rd or 4th gen. Oh well... >
post #810 of 3001
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Originally Posted by mayhem13 View Post

...from my iTouch 2g which did support the big iOS upgrade but has since been not supported by the most recent iOS.....which doesn't effect me in the least.

So you were able to download the 4.3 onto your 2g iTouch?
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