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post #1051 of 1877
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

It is NOT a U.S Movie

No foreign movies are sold in the U.S.? Netflix is loaded with them and I see a lot for sale on Amazon as well.
post #1052 of 1877
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Originally Posted by buonforte View Post

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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Active is better because it IS better. It offers more resolution than passive.
There is no "better". There are pro's and con's to each system.

There is a reason why the best performing displays are all active 3D.
post #1053 of 1877
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

There is a reason why the best performing displays are all active 3D.
You really want to start this argument again? Not in this thread, bub, there's plenty of other places to take that ****.
post #1054 of 1877
can I join in too? :-O SAMSUNGS ARE DA BEST TVS EVA!!!! But seriously, there are pro's and con's to everything in this forum. To say Active is better than passive is just plain ignorant. HD Master please give us the pros of active shutter versus passive, other than resolution reasons...
post #1055 of 1877
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Originally Posted by RonAlam View Post

can I join in too? :-O SAMSUNGS ARE DA BEST TVS EVA!!!! But seriously, there are pro's and con's to everything in this forum. To say Active is better than passive is just plain ignorant. HD Master please give us the pros of active shutter versus passive, other than resolution reasons...

Resolution is the reason. It's the reason why the best displays on the market today are all active as well.
post #1056 of 1877
Seriously... Tech talk is THAT WAY. We're talking about effects here, not which display type is "better". GTFO with that ****.
post #1057 of 1877
well the fact that some of you dont have a sense of humor, Ill ask this, whats better Plasma or LCD/LED? The answer comes down to opinion, some like one and not the other, I want to know why in this case one is better because someone says it is. Just getting clarification, so relax everyone.
And Jedi2016, HD-Master is giving his opinion of which tech in 3D is better to "him", but he is stating that active is better, I only asked on what grounds does it make it better. If this discussion "was" about brands, and he said Samsung is the best brand, I would ask the same question, what makes it better? I have both active and passive and cant "really' tell the difference, maybe because I wear glasses already, and yes I do start to get a headache with the active, does it make it worse? not necessarily, but I wanted to get his opinion on why. So before you go lighting your torches and start a mob, dont just jump to conclusions...
@HD-Master, if the best displays in the market are all active, why dont more people have them in their homes? If a Ferrari is the best car in the market, shouldn't everyone have one?
Edited by RonAlam - 2/3/13 at 9:57am
post #1058 of 1877
Also since we're at it, which is better, DTS HD Master Audio or Dolby True HD?

All I did was state a proven fact that more headaches and eyestrain are the result of Active Shutter glasses. As far as picture quality is concerned, they both produce Full 1080P resolution. They just do it in different ways. I opted for "Passive" because of the picture quality and other benifits that passive has to offer but again, that's just a matter of opinion.

To me, picture quality is #1. And if I thought for one minute that Active looked better to me, it would be in my house right now.

And while we're at it, Beta was the superior format to VHS and HD-DVD was the superior format to Blu-Ray. Just because they lost out doesn't mean they weren't better, it means that Sony and JVC are marketing geniuses and the general public, being ignorant as they are, bought in to their marketing hype.

Now, back to the original thread...
Edited by buonforte - 2/3/13 at 1:11pm
post #1059 of 1877
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Originally Posted by buonforte View Post

As far as picture quality is concerned, they both produce Full 1080P resolution.

No, they don't.
post #1060 of 1877
Sony has won the Blu ray / HD DVD war, but don't attribute this to any "marketing genious"... they also were behind the superior Beta format, which evolved to super beta hi-fi and lost that round! This is in addition to beta being the format of choice for video cameras used by all the news organizations prior to the developement of the digital cameras. I don't think there will be any eventual "winner" between active or passive, they can both exist for the consumer to choose from. I haven't seen any scientific research that confirms or denies more or less headache problems with either format of 3D presentation, it is only anacdotal observations by people who have experienced them. More active sets sold than passive sets? Then it would be fair to see more problems with active rather than passive sets would it not?

What really gives me the giggles are the reports that "while I was in BB, side by side comparison of X and Y sets, X was the better set". With absolutely no idea of correct calibration (or completely incorrect settings) of the sets, it unfortunately shows what PT Barnum stated long ago... a sucker is born every minute! And then people wonder why their purchase doesn't live up to their expectations when they get it home, or think that it "looks great" straight out of the box and fail to check the calibration to find out what it should really look like.

Sorry, I had to add to the off topic rants, now let's get back to the thread topic...

Many proclaim the wonders of Sammy, so who/what is number 2 in terms of the quality of 3D? (Since Sammy ain't something we can all run down to BB andpick up for our video library.)
post #1061 of 1877
I have to admit that how to train your dragon was really good. I saw sammy, and thought meh...probably because I didnt watch the whole thing. Also not to beat a dead horse, but HD-Master, im still waiting for an answer from you...
post #1062 of 1877
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Originally Posted by RonAlam View Post

I have to admit that how to train your dragon was really good. I saw sammy, and thought meh...probably because I didnt watch the whole thing. Also not to beat a dead horse, but HD-Master, im still waiting for an answer from you...
I have How To Train Your Dragon also and it doesn't even come close to Sammy. In fact, it doesn't even belong on the shelf that Sammy is on. Actually, it doesn't even belong in the same house as Sammy. Why is that, you may ask?

Because Sammy 1 and 2, at this point in time, has no equal.

**Conspiracy Therory**

I think that the reason why you won't find Sammy ever released in the U.S. is because the movie studios are paying off the producers of Sammy to never release it in the U.S. Why? Because if it was released in the U.S., once people saw it's amazing 3D and realized that's what 3D is supposed to look like, and our studios are giving us nothing that even comes close to the quality of Sammy... well you know, results could be devistating. Our studios can't deliver quality 3D. It's a shame that the 3D benchmark has to come from over seas. I think I'll look into other exports as well. It seems that they got it right.
Edited by buonforte - 2/3/13 at 4:11pm
post #1063 of 1877
maybe ill give sammy a try, just didnt find it entertaining like the other CG movies
post #1064 of 1877
As far as depth 3d goes, there are quite a few BRs as good as SA. Where SA separates itself from others is how much pop out it has. While I do agree that SA is the top 3d disc right now, overall I dont think it is that far ahead of some other titles like MvA, HTTYD, Madagascar 3, etc........

I think Dreamworks in general puts out the best and most consistent 3d of all the studios.
post #1065 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I think Dreamworks in general puts out the best and most consistent 3d of all the studios.
Certainly better then most animation studios. For example, as sophisticated as Pixar Animation Studio is, their 3D offering are an embarrasment. I had high hopes for Brave but even that was a disapointment.
post #1066 of 1877
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

No, they don't.
Yup, spoken like someone who doesn't have the slightest clue what they're talking about. That's why I wanted this particular discussion moved elsewhere because IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE TO DEATH A HUNDRED TIMES.

You can spew all the BS you want, but you'll never change my mind, or any other passive user. I believe what I see with my own eyes over what you're going to try to "convince" me of.

So go ahead.. start with the "it's only 540p" ******** and we'll see where it goes.
post #1067 of 1877
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

No, they don't.
Yup, spoken like someone who doesn't have the slightest clue what they're talking about. That's why I wanted this particular discussion moved elsewhere because IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE TO DEATH A HUNDRED TIMES.

You can spew all the BS you want, but you'll never change my mind, or any other passive user. I believe what I see with my own eyes over what you're going to try to "convince" me of.

So go ahead.. start with the "it's only 540p" ******** and we'll see where it goes.

There's no need for the hostility. It's just a simple discussion. Passive is half resolution.
post #1068 of 1877
I just bought a new lg passive set that claims to be 1080 for both eyes, and yes it most defently is, I have a passive set from a year and a half back as well and i can say yes the new lg is what it claims 1080 for both eyes. My roommate has a active Samsung set and I always noticed it to be just that much sharper, but the new passive set is what it says.
post #1069 of 1877
well since "HD-Master" cant pony up these "facts" he speaks of, I will go ahead and assume he is full of $h1t. Back to the original discussion...I heard the imax movies are preety good also.
post #1070 of 1877
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Originally Posted by RonAlam View Post

well since "HD-Master" cant pony up these "facts" he speaks of, I will go ahead and assume he is full of $h1t. Back to the original discussion...I heard the imax movies are preety good also.

No, I am just too old for juvenile attacks.
post #1071 of 1877
so if someone asks you a question, you interpret that as a juvenile attack...that goes to show how much BS you are full of. I was simply trying to support your statements so people can stop "attacking" you, but from your responses, you're nothing more than a troll that cant back up his own statements. Do us all a favor and stop responding and good luck with your trolling...
post #1072 of 1877
All bickering aside, I just re-watched Disney's Born to be Wild, some decent pop up in that film, especially with the baby elephant kicking the soccer ball
post #1073 of 1877
Forget it. Moving on.
Edited by HD-Master - 2/4/13 at 9:58am
post #1074 of 1877
Hey guys, I'm new to this particular form and just wanted to sign up to be part of the 3D topics here.

I love me some 3D. Everything is includes, and thanks to HD, and now I can see good quality images I'm just all about it.

I have a 42" entry level passive set ( no I don't wanna join that argument smile.gif it's cheaper, I liked that. No problem admitting it. )

I've been buying up 3D BD's for a few months, I just recently bought the 3D TV to give it a go at home. I love it, buy I do have a problem with the lack of "pop" about.. I mean, I want to see 3D to the max potential. I don't understand why no one wants to deliver that. I rarely see pop-out at all. I know my set is capable because I demo'd that "potato cod" scene, and it's all out there. smile.gif As is the snow at the beginning of Hugo 3D, it literally appears to blow out into the living room. I just don't understand the hold back? Also, many titles I've got rave about the "pop" but it hardly pops...and when it does it's over quick.

I recently bought Dredd 3D and Underworld: Awakening 3D.

Dredd 3D was pretty good, especially during the slo-mo scenes. But again, little pop to be had for more... at least, nothing in my living room. smile.gif Still very enjoyable, I'd recommend checking that out to anyone who hasn't seen it. You can rent it from Redbox. ( Only one disc was made, the 3d/2d BD.)

Underworld:Awakening got some good reviews that I read.. to me, it seemed it 3 sections of the movie that the depth really did enhance the movie. But, again, reviewers mentioned the "comin' at ya" ... which I didn't see any of that. Like...two pop-outs, not extending much at all into the foreground, and basically over with in one second.

I've read through some of this board, and will certainly pick up a few titles mentioned here. Looking forward to Life of Pi ( again, rave reviews )

Anyways, wrapping up, this is a really cool board, and I'd like to thank you guys for all the suggestions across it. I lack the knowledge to really determine why some seem to have better "pop" experiences than I, but I do KNOW that my set is capable of such...
post #1075 of 1877
If pop is your thing, than try Sammy, which half the movie is between you and the screen, and nothing subtle about it. Most IMAX is popped as well since it's all visual candy. The bigger the screen, the more it comes out at you so your mileage may vary. Yeah, it is a pretty cool board, have fun.
post #1076 of 1877
I rented Sammy from Vudu, It was a pleasant 3D experience for sure. Loads of depth and pop. My 6 year old loved it too. I wish more live 3D titles had pop outs. But it was one of many frown.gif
post #1077 of 1877
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Originally Posted by buonforte View Post

All I did was state a proven fact that more headaches and eyestrain are the result of Active Shutter glasses. As far as picture quality is concerned, they both produce Full 1080P resolution. They just do it in different ways. .

They do but I think you aren't clear on exactly what the difference is... http://www.avsforum.com/t/1437658/keep-3d-active-or-make-switch-to-passive-3d-tv/270#post_22715108

No one would love to continue the Active VS Passive debate more than me but everyone is right that thread is by far the most appropriate place for it.

As for the subject of this thread, I watched some Sammy and I definitely see where the popout quality is there but sadly 3D popout for me is ruined by letterboxing... it just makes the edge violations SO prominent and reduces the viewable size so much that I don't enjoy it much...

That said something I am surprised I have not seen mentioned more is IMAX Legends of Flight.

I LOVE The glider scenes and the harrier jump jet that pokes out of your TV screen is amazing too. Both of these subscribe to the same pop out 3D method that that potato cod does in IMAX Under the Sea: Slow moving, non edge violating high quality image 3D.

Also in Legends of flight they do some fun things with some admittedly very low quality 3D renders of the insides of a plane. It's funny my GF actually walked in front of hte screen for a few seconds during one scene and it looked like she was inside a big tube....

While not as impressive in terms of 3D popout, I love both the IMAX space movies Space Station and Hubble. I forget which one but one has the 3D flythrough of a deep field shot of space which I loved.

I may be biased though because I saw that one at the IMAX Theater in Florida.

While they don't hold a candle to the IMAX experience one, they aer still very enjoyable on my TV and if you are a space buff at all very fun to watch.
post #1078 of 1877
excellent point about the letterbox containing the pop of 3d movies. One thing I did notice is that Disney 3d movies like G-Force purposefully left the letterboxing intact, but had the 3d portion break that barrier to give it more of "pop", a term I believe they call post masking
post #1079 of 1877
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Originally Posted by RonAlam View Post

excellent point about the letterbox containing the pop of 3d movies. One thing I did notice is that Disney 3d movies like G-Force purposefully left the letterboxing intact, but had the 3d portion break that barrier to give it more of "pop", a term I believe they call post masking


Interesting... wil have to check that one out... sounds like it could be a cool effect actually!
post #1080 of 1877
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Originally Posted by z0mbi3v1ru5 View Post

Hey guys, I'm new to this particular form and just wanted to sign up to be part of the 3D topics here.

I love me some 3D. Everything is includes, and thanks to HD, and now I can see good quality images I'm just all about it.

I have a 42" entry level passive set ( no I don't wanna join that argument smile.gif it's cheaper, I liked that. No problem admitting it. )

I've been buying up 3D BD's for a few months, I just recently bought the 3D TV to give it a go at home. I love it, buy I do have a problem with the lack of "pop" about.. I mean, I want to see 3D to the max potential. I don't understand why no one wants to deliver that. I rarely see pop-out at all. I know my set is capable because I demo'd that "potato cod" scene, and it's all out there. smile.gif As is the snow at the beginning of Hugo 3D, it literally appears to blow out into the living room. I just don't understand the hold back? Also, many titles I've got rave about the "pop" but it hardly pops...and when it does it's over quick.

I recently bought Dredd 3D and Underworld: Awakening 3D.

Dredd 3D was pretty good, especially during the slo-mo scenes. But again, little pop to be had for more... at least, nothing in my living room. smile.gif Still very enjoyable, I'd recommend checking that out to anyone who hasn't seen it. You can rent it from Redbox. ( Only one disc was made, the 3d/2d BD.)

Underworld:Awakening got some good reviews that I read.. to me, it seemed it 3 sections of the movie that the depth really did enhance the movie. But, again, reviewers mentioned the "comin' at ya" ... which I didn't see any of that. Like...two pop-outs, not extending much at all into the foreground, and basically over with in one second.

I've read through some of this board, and will certainly pick up a few titles mentioned here. Looking forward to Life of Pi ( again, rave reviews )

Anyways, wrapping up, this is a really cool board, and I'd like to thank you guys for all the suggestions across it. I lack the knowledge to really determine why some seem to have better "pop" experiences than I, but I do KNOW that my set is capable of such...

yea you gotta remember that NOT all 3d movies are about stuff popping out of the screen. Lots of 3d movies are all about depth, which is nice, but I do wish there were more scenes with objects popping out of the screen.

here are a few movies that i think have lots of pop.

1. sammys adventure part 1 & 2.
2. Madagascar 3
3. Spy kids game over.

These are not the best movies, but the 3d IMO is pretty good if you're looking for pop out.
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