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post #1141 of 1877
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

Anyone checkout The Hobbit 3D Blu Ray yet?

My bluray came yesterday but I don't think I will watch it until this weekend.
post #1142 of 1877
I'm not a Lord of The Rings fan but I actually enjoyed the first Hobbit movie. I watched the 2D Bluray last week and was amazed how clear and crisp the picture looked. It was definitely the 'cleanest' looking BluRay I've ever seen. I watched the 3D version yesterday and it looked pretty much the same. There were moments where I felt the clarity was lost but it was only a couple of dark scenes. There were a few stand out moments in 3D where I said to myself, "wow, that's some nice depth". All-in-all...I think if you watch the 2D version on a good set, with good settings, you're not missing much at all from the 3D version IMO. My TV btw is a Panasonic 60GT50 and I'm using HD Master's wide night settings & 3D settings(for anyone familiar). I used the official Panasonic glasses for 3D.
post #1143 of 1877
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I'm not a Lord of The Rings fan but I actually enjoyed the first Hobbit movie. I watched the 2D Bluray last week and was amazed how clear and crisp the picture looked. It was definitely the 'cleanest' looking BluRay I've ever seen. I watched the 3D version yesterday and it looked pretty much the same. There were moments where I felt the clarity was lost but it was only a couple of dark scenes. There were a few stand out moments in 3D where I said to myself, "wow, that's some nice depth". All-in-all...I think if you watch the 2D version on a good set, with good settings, you're not missing much at all from the 3D version IMO. My TV btw is a Panasonic 60GT50 and I'm using HD Master's wide night settings & 3D settings(for anyone familiar). I used the official Panasonic glasses for 3D.

I have a 55ST50, will be watching it probably this weekend. Just out of curiosity, where can these settings be found.
post #1144 of 1877
I watched it last night(hd66 146"). Really enjoyed the film. I second the "wow that depth is awesome" in many shots. I remember one scene thinking this is too dark I cant see enough detail. Then the character stepped into the fire light and lots of detail could be seen.

I dont think it wil replace Avengers as my fav 3D romp movie, but I sure cant wait to have time to sit down with it again thrusday afternoon.
post #1145 of 1877
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

I have a 55ST50, will be watching it probably this weekend. Just out of curiosity, where can these settings be found.
I think he removed them from the thread and his sig but people have been posting them the last few pages of the GT50 discussion thread. He has custom settings for day/night viewing, in both normal and wide color spectrum, as well as 3D. I guess you could try them with your ST50.
post #1146 of 1877
Watched Rise of the Guardians last night and must say it was one of the better 3D experiences, up there with Hugo, Life of Pi, Avatar in terms of PQ, but with a bit more crosstalk/ghosting. However, I feel the overall use of 3D surpasses both Avatar and Life of Pi (Hugo is still my favorite 3D movie). The movie itself was great overall, definitely a must own imo.
Edited by CheYC - 3/22/13 at 7:57am
post #1147 of 1877
life o pi was the most recent excellent 3d film.
post #1148 of 1877
If you want to see great 3D, get "The Flying Swords of Dragon Gate". The movie sucks, IMHO, and the subtitles jump all over the place, but damn it is such 3D eye candy - so many layers and depth and no eye strain whatsoever!
post #1149 of 1877
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

If you want to see great 3D, get "The Flying Swords of Dragon Gate". The movie sucks, IMHO, and the subtitles jump all over the place, but damn it is such 3D eye candy - so many layers and depth and no eye strain whatsoever!

Did you get the English subtitles to work? I haven't figured out how to do it yet and can't watch it until I do.
post #1150 of 1877
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Did you get the English subtitles to work? I haven't figured out how to do it yet and can't watch it until I do.

Yeah, they just started working when the movie played. Like I said, though, one minute they are in the top left corner, then bottom left, then in the middle, etc. I mean, seriously, wtf?
post #1151 of 1877
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

If you want to see great 3D, get "The Flying Swords of Dragon Gate". The movie sucks, IMHO, and the subtitles jump all over the place, but damn it is such 3D eye candy - so many layers and depth and no eye strain whatsoever!

Just saw this movie. Awesome 3D! So much natural depth.
post #1152 of 1877
I just had another group of friends come over and watch the Hobbit in 3D. These people are generally naysayers about 3D technology, but all throughout the movie I kept hearing, "whoa" and "holy s@#%!" as some of the more memorable 3D moments came around. It is truly a great film to watch in 3D.
post #1153 of 1877
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Originally Posted by sabesh View Post

Just saw this movie. Awesome 3D! So much natural depth.

Agreed. FSOD is still the live action 3d movie to beat as far as pure 3d goes. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

Watched Rise of the Guardians last night and must say it was one of the better 3D experiences, up there with Hugo, Life of Pi, Avatar in terms of PQ, but with a bit more crosstalk/ghosting. However, I feel the overall use of 3D surpasses both Avatar and Life of Pi (Hugo is still my favorite 3D movie). The movie itself was great overall, definitely a must own imo.


Guardians was awesome in the 3d department. No ghosting or crosstalk here, but I am using a DLP which is why.
post #1154 of 1877
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

Watched Rise of the Guardians last night and must say it was one of the better 3D experiences, up there with Hugo, Life of Pi, Avatar in terms of PQ, but with a bit more crosstalk/ghosting. However, I feel the overall use of 3D surpasses both Avatar and Life of Pi (Hugo is still my favorite 3D movie). The movie itself was great overall, definitely a must own imo.

i think crosstalk depends on the display. i have seen zero crosstalk on any 3d movie i have watched on my passive set, but those same movies will have crosstalk on my active set.
post #1155 of 1877
I saw the Hobbit in high frame rate 3d in theaters. Really didn't like it. The image just looked fake. Completely took me out of the movie.

Just watched it in 3d bluray at home on my projector and really enjoyed it. 24 frames a second really made the movie more transparent, where I wasn't constantly paying attention to the technology.

I am now completely unsold on high frame rate. At least for now.
post #1156 of 1877
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i think crosstalk depends on the display. i have seen zero crosstalk on any 3d movie i have watched on my passive set, but those same movies will have crosstalk on my active set.

Definitely a display issue. I have seen tons of crosstalk on my JVC RS40 and RS45, but absolutely ZERO on my BenQ 7000 DLP with the same movies/scenes.
post #1157 of 1877
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I have seen tons of crosstalk on my JVC RS40 and RS45, but absolutely ZERO on my BenQ 7000 DLP with the same movies/scenes.

This is the only thing stopping me from getting a JVC. I absolutely love 3D, and I don't think there's anything out there right now that trumps a DLP display for 3D, acitve or passive. Love my Optoma HD3300!
post #1158 of 1877
Saw Life of Pi 3D Bluray rental, great 3D in opening sequence and credits (especially how credits were sometimes mid-depth which I don't recall seeing in any other movie) but once movie got going I forgot I was watching 3D except for a very occasional 3D effect so to me I would have enjoyed the experience just as much with the 2D Bluray but I LOVED the movie. Perhaps the fact I loved the movie is why I was more into the movie than scrutinizing the 3D. Maybe on a movie I don't really like I scrutinize the 3D more since following the plot isn't interesting.
post #1159 of 1877
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Originally Posted by WynsWrld98 View Post

Saw Life of Pi 3D Bluray rental, great 3D in opening sequence and credits (especially how credits were sometimes mid-depth which I don't recall seeing in any other movie) but once movie got going I forgot I was watching 3D except for a very occasional 3D effect so to me I would have enjoyed the experience just as much with the 2D Bluray but I LOVED the movie. Perhaps the fact I loved the movie is why I was more into the movie than scrutinizing the 3D. Maybe on a movie I don't really like I scrutinize the 3D more since following the plot isn't interesting.

Forgetting that you're watching 3D is not necessarily a bad thing. I think that's the way it should be. I find myself thinking the same thing at times, and then I'll switch the disc to 2D and be amazed at how flat the picture looks in 2D vs. what I was just watching. Sort of like listening to surround sound.
post #1160 of 1877
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

This is the only thing stopping me from getting a JVC. I absolutely love 3D, and I don't think there's anything out there right now that trumps a DLP display for 3D, acitve or passive. Love my Optoma HD3300!

No doubt. Cant beat DLP for 3d. My RS45 is strictly used for 2d now while the DLP gets all the 3d action.
post #1161 of 1877
If you recently bought a 3d setup and are looking for movies to see what you bought, here is my list of must see to this point..
These are movies I have seen and are available on blu ray.

Adding** Rise of the Guardians- Best 3d I have seen yet. It sets the bar for 3d in my opinion.


Journey to the Center of the Earth. - Older but it shows some of the capabilities of 3d. When I show people 3d, I start at the very end of this movie and play it through the last 1 minute of movie and all the credits.

Life of Pi- The opening credits really shows the versatility of 3d. In my opinion this was a much better example of 3d than Avatar.

My Bloody Valentine- Of course a horror movie takes full advantage of 3d.

-Next list are movies that I enjoyed in 3d but were not as good as I would have hoped.

Avatar- I am really discouraged that so many directors have a bias against OOS effects. That, to me, is a large part of 3d. It doesn't have to be a gimmick. There were so many scenes that BEGGED for OOS and it felt like you were being denied something natural.

Megamind- Absolutely beautiful, gorgeous movie. Unfortunately loses some luster because of the lack of OOS.

Resident Evil(s)- Fun to watch in 3d.

Harold and Kumar 3d- A lot of ghosting but they go all out with their 3d.

Kung Fu Panda 2- Beautiful and they really take advantage of depth with falling scenes, lacked good OOS.
Edited by RWilli - 6/3/13 at 5:22pm
post #1162 of 1877
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Originally Posted by johnny905 View Post

Forgetting that you're watching 3D is not necessarily a bad thing. I think that's the way it should be. I find myself thinking the same thing at times, and then I'll switch the disc to 2D and be amazed at how flat the picture looks in 2D vs. what I was just watching. Sort of like listening to surround sound.

DITTO
post #1163 of 1877
IMHO the best reference 3D Bluray movies are: 1) Avatar ...2) Life of Pi... 3) Hugo. These movies excel BECAUSE they are natively shot in 3D.
post #1164 of 1877
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Originally Posted by WynsWrld98 View Post

Saw Life of Pi 3D Bluray rental, great 3D in opening sequence and credits (especially how credits were sometimes mid-depth which I don't recall seeing in any other movie) but once movie got going I forgot I was watching 3D except for a very occasional 3D effect so to me I would have enjoyed the experience just as much with the 2D Bluray but I LOVED the movie. Perhaps the fact I loved the movie is why I was more into the movie than scrutinizing the 3D. Maybe on a movie I don't really like I scrutinize the 3D more since following the plot isn't interesting.

Glad to hear you noticed, and liked, the titles - I was the lead 3D artist on the titles and several of the transitions/montages in the movie ; ) When the director/producer will let me I try to put the titles "in" the scene instead of just sitting in front of everything.

I also just recently finished the title sequence for OZ, The Great and Powerful. OZ and Life Of Pi are the two (3D) titles I worked on that I'm most happy with.
post #1165 of 1877
Of the "converted" movies I found I really liked the 3D in The Immortals. Wondering what other folks thought?
post #1166 of 1877
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

Of the "converted" movies I found I really liked the 3D in The Immortals. Wondering what other folks thought?

I really didn't like the 3D in that one. Thought it was non-existent most of the time.
post #1167 of 1877
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

Of the "converted" movies I found I really liked the 3D in The Immortals. Wondering what other folks thought?

I am waiting for Jurassic Park in 3D - Next Tuesday.

I hope I am not disappointed.
post #1168 of 1877
There really seems to be some disagreement over usage of 3D. A lot of people just like the OOS while many prefer to be more actively drawn into the film. Both are absolutely valid. Journey and Journey2 are both heavy on the OOS and are fun once or twice but for rewatching I prefer Pi, Avatar, Hugo, Avengers etc.


How are all the Pixar/Disney 3D? I try to steer clear of postproduction 3D and the Disney ones are pretty spendy.


I really wish Redbox would carry some... I feel like I need to buy everything.
post #1169 of 1877
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Originally Posted by coolhand View Post

How are all the Pixar/Disney 3D? I try to steer clear of postproduction 3D and the Disney ones are pretty spendy.
Not sure why you mention post-conversion there, since nearly every CGI film is rendered natively in 3D. Even for Pixar's re-releases in 3D, they go back and re-render natively, they don't convert. Unless you're referring to live-action stuff, in which case I have no idea.

Pixar's 3D in general is more subtle, more of the "depth" type used to draw the audience in, as opposed to pop-out effects, especially on the re-releases, since those weren't originally set up (cinematographically speaking) for 3D. I only have two Disney CGI films in 3D; Tangled and Wreck-It Ralph. Of those, I prefer the 3D in Tangled.. it really adds to the presentation, where the 3D in WIR is just kind of "there" and not really that impressive overall.

Is "cinematographically" even a word?
post #1170 of 1877
Some older films are actually converted even though they're fully CG. I worked on the Shrek conversion, it was cheaper and easier to convert it rather than trying to go back over 10 years to find the project files, de-archive them, make sure everything links up, set up a second camera in every shot, then take up the render farm to render out the second eye. Almost all films that are shot natively in 3D also have a mix of conversion in them including Avatar, some shots just can't use a huge two camera rig.

There's been a huge debate on the under and over use of 3D over the last few years from when I worked on natively shot Avatar to converting films like Shrek, Clash of the Titans, Immortals, Green Lantern, parts of Transformers 3, Star Wars Episode 1, Harry Potter, and others (including converting parts of Inception before they decided to stop). Some studios and directors feel that they want their film to be mainly behind the screen plane because they don't want it to feel like a 3D gag. 3D has a bad rap for being just gimmicky so sometimes they'd rather keep it more on the subtle side. It's a tricky balance trying to determine how much depth should be used, how much is behind and in front of screen plane, and whether or not you to use 3D gags. Sometimes it's best to forgot you're watching 3D, sometimes it's fun to feel like you're on a ride at Universal Studios. All depends on the content and the feel of the film.
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