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post #571 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

now ehere do you get those ? are they same as Dbox motion control ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=863qE...D34B6C6E5B9310
post #572 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

now ehere do you get those ? are they same as Dbox motion control ?

D-box is more like a theme park ride, where you chair jostles around all over the place in sync with action in the movie. A bass shaker is a more subtle effect use to enhance the physical sensation of bass.

Here's an article I wrote on the subject a while back:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/bass-shakers/

Bass shakers are not very expensive or difficult to implement.
post #573 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

D-box is more like a theme park ride, where you chair jostles around all over the place in sync with action in the movie. A bass shaker is a more subtle effect use to enhance the physical sensation of bass.

Here's an article I wrote on the subject a while back:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/bass-shakers/

Bass shakers are not very expensive or difficult to implement.

Thanks for all teh info

i am very interested in checking out butkicker...however my favorite retailer only has this product......is that all i need ? or there better kits with better deals out there ?

http://www.amazon.com/ButtKicker-BK-...6405105&sr=1-1
post #574 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

Thanks for all teh info

i am very interested in checking out butkicker...however my favorite retailer only has this product......is that all i need ? or there better kits with better deals out there ?

http://www.amazon.com/ButtKicker-BK-...6405105&sr=1-1

Buttkicker is sort of like the Monster Cable of tactile transducers. There's nothing wrong with its quality, but it's pretty overpriced. Aura Bass Shakers do the same thing and are a lot less expensive. The article I linked above has details on where you can buy those and an amp to power them.
post #575 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Buttkicker is sort of like the Monster Cable of tactile transducers. There's nothing wrong with its quality, but it's pretty overpriced. Aura Bass Shakers do the same thing and are a lot less expensive. The article I linked above has details on where you can buy those and an amp to power them.

Excellent write up ! Can I get away with a25w Amp for one shaker ?

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S...6514748&sr=8-4
post #576 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

Excellent write up ! Can I get away with a25w Amp for one shaker ?

I can't say for certain. I've never tried one with that low wattage. It might work fine (I've certainly never used my amp to anywhere near its fullest power). However, I suspect that won't be enough to power the shaking action. Since the price difference between the one you linked to and the 70W model is only $24, I'm inclined to play it safe and overestimate your needs.

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S...dp/B0002TUDKG/
post #577 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

Excellent write up ! Can I get away with a25w Amp for one shaker ?

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S...6514748&sr=8-4


Just a suggestion, but do a bit more research from other people who have compared these shakers to the Buttkickers. Some have found the Buttkickers to be better performers, and according to this info http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...ber=299-028the Aura shakers are only usable down to about 20hz (is this true?) while the Buttkickers are rated down to 5hz.

I have not used the Auras myself so I cant say one way or the other, but when I bought my Buttkicker kit, the general consensus from everything I read was the Buttkickers were better performers and worth the extra $$$. I use 2 with the BK amp and have them attached to a mini riser that I built that my couch sits on and it is fantastic! I would advise NOT attaching them directly to the seats/chair if at all possible. You will get much better and more natural performance from an indirect mount/shake to a riser or floor joist and then have the vibrations come up through the frame on your furniture. I took the feet off my couch so the entire wood frame sits on the riser so vibrations come up through the entire perimeter of the couch. Also leave enough room on the riser so your feet can absorb vibrations.......this makes a big difference as far as the sensation of the shakers blending in naturally with your subs which is the goal! These things blend so seamlessly with my subs that they feel like a complete natural extension and never draw attention to themselves (unless they bottom out), but at the same time, if you turn them off, it is very obvious as there is noticeable intensity gone like someone has turned off a few of your subs. I have been in "high end" HTs where the installer attached shakers (might have been Auras now that I think about it actually so maybe I have experienced these, but not sure) directly to the chairs, and it was not nearly as convincing IMO as doing an indirect type mount as I described above......there is a lot of good info on all of this on the Buttkicker site and or manual (cant remember where now exactly, but it should be easy to find).

Just my suggestion though
post #578 of 1877
I would look in to the clark synthesis transducers before the aura bass shakers or butt kickers. You can buy a clark 209t for $69 the aura's are $50 now and the butt kickers are expensive. 1 clark= 2 aura's so for the money I would go clark.
post #579 of 1877
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Originally Posted by lewis3845 View Post

I would look in to the clark synthesis transducers before the aura bass shakers or butt kickers. You can buy a clark 209t for $69 the aura's are $50 now and the butt kickers are expensive. 1 clark= 2 aura's so for the money I would go clark.

Looks like these are rated down to 15hz (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861), so while better than the Auras, they are still not as good as the Buttkickers which are rated to 5hz. To me, that alone is worth the extra $$$$ for the BKs, but to others it might not be worth it. Everyone will have to decide for themselves.
post #580 of 1877
There's only so much shaking action that you actually want to feel before it gets gimmicky and annoying. I don't personally see the need to spend extra on a Buttkicker just because it's rated to a lower Hz, when I have no intention of turning the amp power to the shaker up enough to feel that distinction. YMMV.
post #581 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

There's only so much shaking action that you actually want to feel before it gets gimmicky and annoying. I don't personally see the need to spend extra on a Buttkicker just because it's rated to a lower Hz, when I have no intention of turning the amp power to the shaker up enough to feel that distinction. YMMV.

It all depends on how you implement and setup the shaker as far as how "gimmicky and annoying" it becomes. Having more extension is not going to contribute to that if you set it up correctly and will infact make the experience more engrossing with any track that has content below 15hz which quite a few do these days. My Ultra 13s tuned to 15hz have useful output down to ~14hz or so, but there are some scenes where that last bit of extension that my subs cant handle get taken over by the BKs and is truly fantastic. Star Trek 2009 comes to mind as there are some scenes in that movie where it digs so deep, my subs are doing very little, but you still get this amazing tactile sensation as if the subs are doing something......you just have to experience it

From my experience though, and assuming one mounts these transducers correctly (not directly to the chair/furniture), there is nothing gimmicky about them and the more extension the better (just like subs). That extra 10-15hz extension will be well worth the extra $$$ to anyone who wants to get the most out of the more demanding and extending tracks such as WOTW, Star Trek, TIH, Cloverfield, Battle LA, etc..............
post #582 of 1877
where are yall mounting the Dayton Amps at? Looks to me is if it's designed for a sub box not used with a bass shaker out in the open... Do you hide it under the couch or what?

What about using something like this with 2 Clark 209t's. It could go with the rest of the equipment such as AVR and stuff then run wire to the shakers?

http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AM...d_bxgy_e_img_c

Also is there a wireless solution because I'm not going to have wires running back to the theater seating because it's in the middle of the room?
post #583 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Milez28 View Post

where are yall mounting the Dayton Amps at? ...

At first I thought I clicked on the wrong thread, but then realized that a bunch of people have hijacked this.

PLEASE everyone, get back to the original topic. You can always start your own thread or send PMs to others.
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I thought Avatar looked great and just bought Yogi Bear for the kids because of the recommendations here.
What else has the best 3D effects?
post #584 of 1877
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Originally Posted by everdog View Post

at first i thought i clicked on the wrong thread, but then realized that a bunch of people have hijacked this.

Please everyone, get back to the original topic. You can always start your own thread or send pms to others.
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i thought avatar looked great and just bought yogi bear for the kids because of the recommendations here.
What else has the best 3d effects?

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post #585 of 1877
Sorry guys

Under the Sea is still probably my favorite 3d disc. I really want to see Sammy's Adventure though since everyone seems to be raving about its 3d!
post #586 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Sorry guys

Under the Sea is still probably my favorite 3d disc. I really want to see Sammy's Adventure though since everyone seems to be raving about its 3d!

I bought it on VUDU-3D for $22

its the best in 3D ever and shamelessly uses popouts for breakfast-lunch-dinner

but it can get very boring for adults (definitely not pixar caliber in story)

now i wish i rented it for $6 instead
post #587 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

I bought it on VUDU-3D for $22

its the best in 3D ever and shamelessly uses popouts for breakfast-lunch-dinner

but it can get very boring for adults (definitely not pixar caliber in story)

now i wish i rented it for $6 instead

Yeah, the repeat factor is mainly for the eye candy/3d and if not for that, I would not have watched this one more than once I am sure

Looking forward to Transf 3 in a few weeks! If it lives up to the 3d hype, it should be one of the best yet!
post #588 of 1877
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Yeah, the repeat factor is mainly for the eye candy/3d and if not for that, I would not have watched this one more than once I am sure

Looking forward to Transf 3 in a few weeks! If it lives up to the 3d hype, it should be one of the best yet!

the only good about getting Sammy's on VUDU is that you are not buying from YesAsia or some other out of the country outfit for $35 or more ! So there is some comfort in owing it if only to just to show off whats the best 3D pop outs look like

I saw Transformers-3D in theater and was not impressed with it...hopefully my home experience would be better as was the case with several other titles !
post #589 of 1877
Just in case you have not seen this

http://www.blu-ray.com/3d/
post #590 of 1877
I think IMAX: Hubble 3D was pretty awesome.

Sammy was great - I ordered it from Amazon.co.uk

Under the Sea was pretty impressive.
post #591 of 1877
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Originally Posted by ajleske View Post


Sammy was great - I ordered it from Amazon.co.uk

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It does not play on US players right ?
post #592 of 1877
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

It does not play on US players right ?

Region A Version
(Works in US With English Option)

Sammy's Adventure

DDHouse..... http://dddhouse.com/v3/product_detai...roductID=12014

Vesasia...... http://www.yesasia.com/us/sammys-adv...0-en/info.html
post #593 of 1877
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Originally Posted by EVERRET View Post

Region A Version
(Works in US With English Option)

Sammy's Adventure

DDHouse..... http://dddhouse.com/v3/product_detai...roductID=12014

Vesasia...... http://www.yesasia.com/us/sammys-adv...0-en/info.html

Thanks...but I did not want to wait so long so got it on vudu
post #594 of 1877
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It does not play on US players right ?

I live in Australia so same region as UK.
post #595 of 1877
Imax Space Station is on sale on Amazon, $19.99.
Is this the flawed version - the first 3 minutes is not presented in 3D?
post #596 of 1877
Just got Under the Sea in the mail today. Looking forward to checking it out tonight!
post #597 of 1877
Hi all !
Great thread ! Im a 3D noob here, waiting for my LG 47LW6500 to arrive this week. So far Ive only ordered Unde The Sea. But also lookin into gettin Avatar .
Some of you here suggested Sammys Adventures, which I saw you can now get on Vudu for $21.99 . Plus if you register an account with them you get a $5.99 credit . Not bad at all .
Any and all recommendations for great 3d with POPOUT is highly appreciated in advance.
post #598 of 1877
Favorite pop out movies: Under The Sea, Yogi, Ultimate Wave Tahiti, Despicable Me, Drive Angry and Tangled. Pics of my favorite pop out scenes can be found here: http://3d-tv-gaming.blogspot.com/201...=1325873717246
post #599 of 1877
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Originally Posted by johnny905 View Post

Favorite pop out movies: Under The Sea, Yogi, Ultimate Wave Tahiti, Despicable Me, Drive Angry and Tangled. Pics of my favorite pop out scenes can be found here: http://3d-tv-gaming.blogspot.com/201...=1325873717246

Nice blog ! But you are just scratching the surface with a puny 3dtv....do yourself a favor and get one of the new 3D full 1080p Projectors ( epson 3010, optoma hd3300, acer 9500) and a nice 120" screen and be prepared for a ride of your lifetime if you ask me to pick one, I chose my favourite Epson 3010 which can be purchased or $1350 and comes with 2 pairs of glasses...show me a tv that can come close to th sheer value add !
post #600 of 1877
@falafala Maybe my next AV purchase will be a projector. I always assumed I would just buy a bigger TV next, probably a 65", but maybe I should look at projectors as well. I just don't know anything about them...
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