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post #1321 of 1524
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Originally Posted by bishopt View Post

So my meter i1 LT is not good for taking FL readings, however Backlash on a few pages back was getting around 13FL on a 106" Da-lite HCCV screen 1.1 Gain...all I know is that for a 106" screen it is plenty bright and that is in low lamp mode..

I watched Game of Thrones last night on a 106" in low lamp, somewhere over 100 hour on lamp, and honestly I thought it was on the "too bright" side in a lights-off room. This was with brilliant color off and I think Video gamma.
post #1322 of 1524
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Originally Posted by coderguy

That show has some awesome cinematography for projectors, it's all POP and WOW, I forgot to record it, I wanted to use it for testing. The first few minutes of it was the perfect lighting conditions for testing too. I'm going to see if I can order that episode somehow for testing. It did really POP a lot on the Mits, I did watch it on both projectors.

Why I pay $200 month for cable and don't even get the premium channels ON DEMAND in HD is beyond me, Showtime is the only I get On Demand in Hd, and the selection is like 10 throwback movies per month, lol.
200$ ? Wow. Thats a lot. We r in 2011 and yu have cheaper options for TV content.
post #1323 of 1524
Any mechanical or electrical engineers in here that can take apart their Mits hc4000, increase the speed of the color wheel, and then tell me how they did it...

post #1324 of 1524
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Any mechanical or electrical engineers in here that can take apart their Mits hc4000, increase the speed of the color wheel, and then tell me how they did it...


Well I said it before and I'll say it again, I really think you should look at the Sharp XV-Z15000, I really think that would get you there, well almost anyway...I say this since it's dlp should give you all of the advantages of the mits but it sports a 5x color wheel that for you would probably almost eliminate the rbe's at least minimize them, a 6x wheel woiuld probably seal the deal but the sharp can be had for about the same price as the mits....the only downside is that I think in best mode will not be a bright as the mits but since you have a high power screen I think that might be a push....just another thought
post #1325 of 1524
The sharp is said to be the least sharp of all the DLP's, more like an LCD in sharpness, who knows though. I also have my doubts if 5x or 6x will help any, no idea. If I knew I wasn't bothered by the Infocus sp8602, I'd probably buy it, but at that price I mise well buy the JVC. The sharp also doesn't have LENS SHIFT, which means I'd have to leave it floor mounted to get enough lumens, my hc4000 is only floor mounted temporarily. If I ceiling or shelf mount it, it will be too dim in best mode.
post #1326 of 1524
Coderguy do you have a real job? Never seen anyone so obsessed posting on a forum like you before. This thread has little to do with the HC4000 it has been tuened into a discussion about every other pj imaginable. Sad for those of us who actually own them and want to know more and discuss this specific projector.
post #1327 of 1524
HERE - Problem Solved:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20356608

Do you have anything useful to add...

A simple ignore on me will instantly make all my posts invisible and solve your problem.
post #1328 of 1524
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

HERE - Problem Solved:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20356608

Do you have anything useful to add, or just another worthless comment.

A simple ignore on me will instantly make all my posts invisible and solve your problem.

If you don't want to learn about projectors, then don't come here. I'm comparing the Mits hc4000 to the Sanyo, so what.
Don't read my posts then, for that matter I am trying to give people helpful information, so they don't have to go through what I did.
And as far as my job, it's none of your business, and yes I have a real job. I am just posting a lot lately while working.
There are many people on this forum that have many many more posts than I do, I have been here 5 years and have 1700 posts.
I am obviously very active right now while I try all these different projectors out.
I have no need to defend myself, don't read my posts. I have provided more information in projector comparisons than I think anyone else here.
I am primarily only posting in 3 threads, then make your own thread.

Coder opened a new Official Thread....I'm going to start putting some content in there and hope folks migrate over to the new thread...thanks coder
post #1329 of 1524
I can't quite put my finger on it, but for some reason the MITS hc4000 always adds just an extra BIT of MAGIC when it comes to TV viewing.

It seems on inconsistent sources like CABLE TV, even though the Mits has about the same amount of noise as other projectors, it always looks better than other PJ's on TV. Whenever I compare the Mits to another projector with a Bluray, the differences shrink.

The Mits makes the best well rounded projector out of everything under $2k so far.
post #1330 of 1524
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

I have provided more information in projector comparisons than I think anyone else in these entire forums.

Not quite but you're getting there.

Jason
post #1331 of 1524
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

I three-way compared the Mits hc4000, SAnyo z5, and Sanyo z4000 projecting the same pattern at the same time. The hc4000 is enough sharper to make a significant difference with HTPC for sure.

Have you leveled the playing field a little with the split screen comparisons?

Meaning, the Sanyo certainly needs the HP screen, but the Mits wouldn't do as well with black levels on the same screen.

If the Mits is still brighter than the Sanyo on the split screen (as I assume it should be), you should even the brightness by trying to split the Mits side to a lower gain screen.

Not only are we naturally drawn to 'brighter' images (and prefer them), but the Black levels are affected by the screen gain.

I would get the brightness between them close to the same first (if you haven't already?).
post #1332 of 1524
I think pretty much to beat the Mits hc4000, you're going to have to step up to a JVC, if that even beats it, it should for movies at least.
The Sanyo comes very close after calibrating, but it still missing a LITTLE POP sometimes.
post #1333 of 1524
anyone using keystone adjustments? My benq pe7800 just crapped out. I had it mounted at the back of the room on top of a large armoire (flipped upside down with rubber pads from home depot underneath). the offset of the hc4000 in this configuration would put the image about 10 inches too low. obviously i dont want to keystone, but am weighing the costs/benefits of this vs ponying up for the W6000. any opinions/feedback would be appreciated.
post #1334 of 1524
I checked doing maximum keystone, it didn't affect sharpness much at all.

Even at -10 keystone, the projector is still sharper than an LCD

However, that said, it may introduce geometric distortion, whether or not this would bother you is another question, my guess is no, but it's probably going to depend on how much keystone you need.

I look at it this way, you can't beat this projector at this price (and this is someone having tested 5 other projectors against it).

Even if you reduced the PQ by 20%, this projector is still going to beat other projectors in this price range, hard fact to swallow but true.
post #1335 of 1524
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Originally Posted by speavler View Post

anyone using keystone adjustments? My benq pe7800 just crapped out. I had it mounted at the back of the room on top of a large armoire (flipped upside down with rubber pads from home depot underneath). the offset of the hc4000 in this configuration would put the image about 10 inches too low. obviously i dont want to keystone, but am weighing the costs/benefits of this vs ponying up for the W6000. any opinions/feedback would be appreciated.

Can you ceiling mount the HC4000? At 7.7 pounds it is lite weight and does not need a lot of support structure. How high is your ceiling?
post #1336 of 1524
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Originally Posted by John P View Post

Can you ceiling mount the HC4000? At 7.7 pounds it is lite weight and does not need a lot of support structure. How high is your ceiling?

no can do. we have a 1920's old house with a curved plaster ceiling.
post #1337 of 1524
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Originally Posted by speavler View Post

no can do. we have a 1920's old house with a curved plaster ceiling.

Put a small stool, table, etc. on top of the armoire, then the PJ on top of that?
post #1338 of 1524
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

Put a small stool, table, etc. on top of the armoire, then the PJ on top of that?

Heh. I just might try that! I put in the order for the HC4000. In any event, I'm looking forward to the upgrade from my 7 year old 576p projector.

btw, thanks for the input coder. much appreciated.
post #1339 of 1524
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Originally Posted by speavler View Post

Heh. I just might try that! I put in the order for the HC4000. In any event, I'm looking forward to the upgrade from my 7 year old 576p projector.

btw, thanks for the input coder. much appreciated.

You will be fine either way, I raised my image about 10 inches and have 1 click of keystone...great Projector...please come back and let us know what you think once you starting using it...but I am willing to bet you'll be blown away...great projector
post #1340 of 1524
Man, one final and last calibration attempt for the Sanyo z4000 before I give it up.
BTW, I got the new Sanyo in, the convergence is FAR FAR improved.

Still prefer the Mits slightly.
post #1341 of 1524
You got lumens and about everything else that was bothering you about the Sanyo, so I guess you're gonna keep the 2nd Sanyo and return the Mits?
post #1342 of 1524
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

HERE - Problem Solved:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20356608

Do you have anything useful to add, or just another worthless comment.

A simple ignore on me will instantly make all my posts invisible and solve your problem.

If you don't want to learn about projectors, then don't come here. I'm comparing the Mits hc4000 to the Sanyo, so what.
For that matter I am trying to give people helpful information, so they don't have to go through what I did.
And as far as my job, it's none of your business, and yes I have a real job. I am just posting a lot lately while working.
There are many people on this forum that have many many more posts than I do, I have been here 5 years and have 1700 posts.
I am obviously very active right now while I try all these different projectors out.
I have no need to defend myself, just don't read my posts

I have provided more information in projector comparisons than I think anyone else in these entire forums.

Unfortunately since viewing any picture is subjective your comparisons mean little to nothing to me. As for the fact you have no life better than to spend 8 hours a day talking about every projector there is in an HC4000 thread congratrulations to you. All I see is the same few know it alls posting a bunch of useless info about other projectors in the HC4000 thread. Get a clue Inspector Gadget...
post #1343 of 1524
If you want to insult me, then please do so in a PRIVATE MESSAGE, this just gets the forum more off track.

I certainly never claimed to know it all. I have seen a lot of the recent projectors and can understand people not trusting my judgement, just as any reviewers judgement is suspect.
post #1344 of 1524
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD View Post
Unfortunately since viewing any picture is subjective your comparisons mean little to nothing to me. As for the fact you have no life better than to spend 8 hours a day talking about every projector there is in an HC4000 thread congratrulations to you. All I see is the same few know it alls posting a bunch of useless info about other projectors in the HC4000 thread. Get a clue Inspector Gadget...
And yet all your posts in this thread (and the HC4000 only thread) haven't said anything useful about the HC4000. Most of them have been to insult coderguy. The hypocrisy is blinding.

What a guy
post #1345 of 1524
Does anyone know if this thread is streamable? Would love to watch this soap opera in my HT. It gets more entertaining by the day.
post #1346 of 1524
it use to be that the majority of shoot threads were stand alone threads outside the threads of the actual projectors in the shoot out which i preferred for a number of reasons. I for one appreciate coderguys work but i do wish the shootout threads would stand alone.
post #1347 of 1524
I hear you, but I didn't do the shootout in here, but I did mention a bit too much details about the shootouts at times I suppose.
post #1348 of 1524
dont stop doing comparisons. i suspect they are appreciated by the majority of posters/lurkers.
post #1349 of 1524
keep 'em coming.
post #1350 of 1524
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

And yet all your posts in this thread (and the HC4000 only thread) haven't said anything useful about the HC4000. Most of them have been to insult coderguy. The hypocrisy is blinding.

The fact is Projector Central's review was the first to rate the image quality of the 4000 and declare it an outstanding value.
I then bought one and put my reputation on the line and strongly recommended it as an outstanding value. Then Consumer Reports rates it the the Best DLP projector and a Best Buy.

Several members tried to suggest more expensive alternatives. Then others wanting to be the center of attention starting paraphrasing what published reviews already stated. Then going wildly off-topic for extended periods and then changing posts after other pointed out striking inconsistencies.
Repeated requests to stay on topic were ignored. Finally promises were made to stay on topic but were then broken again.
Even a novice was able to see the intent was to ditch this thread. That recently occurred with the member selfishly starting his own thread on the 4000, exactly as expected. He stated this new thread was to discuss the 4000 ONLY, but then intermediately started discussing other projectors! Now he continues to post to both in what must be more than a full-time job!

All this tension would die-down if people could read of the Mitsubishi 4000 in the Mitsubishi 4000 thread. Cut out the deception and respect the wishes of others.
Now let's see how long this thread stays on topic.
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