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post #121 of 1323
9/24/10 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Is the Audio section active on all outputs all the time ?

No feature specifics available yet, but history tells us that OPPO's players tend to have all outputs active simultaneously unless there's a good reason it can't happen (no SACD output over coaxial/optical due to licensing restrictions being the classic "good reason it can't happen").

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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

While you might think the support for SACD and DVD-A are unnecessary features or over kill; I'm assuming you don't own either format.

As discussed in the past, the cost savings to drop SACD and DVD-Audio is also very, very small. They would use the same System-on-Chip either way, and likely the same loader. There's no difference in hardware cost. Once the firmware is written and the licensing fees paid, it's all done.

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Originally Posted by xradman View Post

LG BH200 Universal (Region Free) Blu-ray/HD DVD player has Marvell Qdeo processor. I haven't used it much, but it does offer a lot of tweaks. I hope this doesn't mean Oppo will be as glitch as that LG player.

Players can use the same video processor without using the same components elsewhere in the signal path. It's unlikely that LG's problems with that player would carry over to the BDP-93.

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post #122 of 1323
9/24/10 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

No, it means there IS beta testing currently underway.

I was told by oppo in an email that there is NO beta tester group for the new line of players. My previous was a typo...
post #123 of 1323
9/24/10 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by CCONKLIN1 View Post

I was told by oppo in an email that there is NO beta tester group for the new line of players. My previous was a typo...

Perhaps they were referring to an EAP, or maybe it was before testing got underway.
post #124 of 1323
9/24/10 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

Perhaps they were referring to an EAP, or maybe it was before testing got underway.

I was told Beta is closed and there will (probably) be no EAP.
post #125 of 1323
9/24/10 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I was told Beta is closed and there will (probably) be no EAP.

That's my understanding too.
post #126 of 1323
9/24/10 at 1:59pm
Their response to me in regards to preorders, EAPs, and other gimmicks and such:

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We probably won't be doing all that again. More than likely, it will just be a straight up launch once it's ready.
post #127 of 1323
9/24/10 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by dazzerxxx View Post

This may be of interest. It's not an assessment but it does provide some visual simulations of what the various processing options are supposed to do - http://www.sidchapters.org/ba/Archiv...ID%20Mar09.pdf

I've observed the Marvell 88DE2710 in the Pio LX91 (09FD). With DVD it appeared to same similar scaling to the VRS. PAL film deinterlacing was better than the VRS in auto mode.

I think some of the QDEO tech is by Sony in some current Sony models i.e. S5000, S1000 but Sony don't advertise the fact.

D

The examples were interesting. Some of the "after" shots did look better, but others looked worse to me.
post #128 of 1323
9/24/10 at 3:16pm
I also emailed Oppo about possible pre-ordering a unit and the reply is not very encouraging:

"We don't have any plans for preorder, and release will be 4-7 months."


4-7 months ? I was expecting 4 to 7 weeks!
post #129 of 1323
9/24/10 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

1. Oppo BDP-83 MA faceplate won't work for the BDP-93
2. Oppo hasn't sent out for a new MA faceplate yet.

From Oppo CS:


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Darn it I was hoping it would be a quick replacement w/o the additional faceplate cost.

Thanks for checking though.
post #130 of 1323
9/24/10 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

I also emailed Oppo about possible pre-ordering a unit and the reply is not very encouraging:

"We don't have any plans for preorder, and release will be 4-7 months."


4-7 months ? I was expecting 4 to 7 weeks!

WTH? I thought this thing was coming out in November of this year.
post #131 of 1323
9/24/10 at 3:58pm
The more you guys keep pestering Oppo by phone and email, the longer it will take to get the player released. Really. The people answering phones and emails have other jobs too. Just sayin'.
post #132 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:04pm
Actually, people answering the phones or doing E-Mails are being paid for that specific function. However, the level of support received can be very variable, especially for a product which has not been officially announced.
post #133 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The more you guys keep pestering Oppo by phone and email, the longer it will take to get the player released. Really. The people answering phones and emails have other jobs too. Just sayin'.

Wow! So the people at tech support or those at Oppo HQ who answer the phones also work on the production line building and packaging Oppo products. I hope they get paid well for taking on so many tasks. Honestly I do not believe the level of emails or phone calls will slow down the release of the BDP-93.

Bill
post #134 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

I also emailed Oppo about possible pre-ordering a unit and the reply is not very encouraging:

"We don't have any plans for preorder, and release will be 4-7 months."


4-7 months ? I was expecting 4 to 7 weeks!

Ugh, that sounds like a looooong time.
post #135 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

When the movie is playing, which one are you watching?

Sounds like the appearance of a component is meaningless to you. I think it does have some bearing for most people.
post #136 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:26pm
Don't really worry about the front panel display until you see it. The front panel display is still far more informative than other players, even if it has been split into two.
post #137 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:36pm
I hope it will support regular windows shares (SMB), not just DLNA.

I've tried DLNA with my Samsung BDP and I personally don't like it (slow, takes cpu/memory from my pc, requires building a database), I much prefer the simplicity of being able to access shared folders directly.
post #138 of 1323
9/24/10 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

I also emailed Oppo about possible pre-ordering a unit and the reply is not very encouraging:

"We don't have any plans for preorder, and release will be 4-7 months."


4-7 months ? I was expecting 4 to 7 weeks!


Ouch! Guess that gives some time to save.
post #139 of 1323
9/24/10 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

Sounds like the appearance of a component is meaningless to you. I think it does have some bearing for most people.

RobertR,

Well, it seems kind of shallow in my opinion, but I guess we all have different buying criteria. However, as stated previously what does the appearance of the player have to do with anything once the movie starts? Nothing! I find no solace in "boy this player is pretty", but it won't play every other disc that I put in it.


Willie
post #140 of 1323
9/24/10 at 6:26pm
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post #141 of 1323
9/24/10 at 6:52pm
I would have to admit I like the looks of the BDP-83 better. The one thing that would slightly bother me is the display will not be centered with the BDP-93. Definitely not deal breakers but just a preference.

Bill
post #142 of 1323
9/24/10 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I am also interested in the duel HDMI ports. I can use the tv and the receiver. I dont have 3D. I like the concept of duel HDMI.

Jacob

That's the same reason for asking if all audio is active all the time on all outputs. I really want to know if Audio is set to HDMI, if it is full output on both HDMI's. All the HD Codecs and everything else. That way I could run one HDMI to Reciever for Dolby HD etc. when using the Home theater surround sound system. I could run the other HDMI straight to the TV, that way the Wife could watch DVD's just using the TV ( Less complicated). I could use the coaxial output to the DAC, and the LR Analoge's to my Pre-Amp. It's complicated on intial Hook-Up, but for the Wife, Kids, Friends, it a easy to use for all things.
post #143 of 1323
9/24/10 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by Cattledog View Post

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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I would have to admit I like the looks of the BDP-83 better. The one thing that would slightly bother me is the display will not be centered with the BDP-93. Definitely not deal breakers but just a preference.

Bill

Bill,


I think the tray is only slightly off center. If you look at the 2nd photo there seams to be about 4 or 5 inches gap between the eject button and the outer edge of the front fascia and on the other side of the eject button there seems to be about a another ½ inch before you get to the tray which measures 5 inches.

So, if we assume the same basic size as the current BDP-83 (16-7/8 or 17). Assuming 17 inches across and the assumptions above the tray is most likely only slightly off center (17 - 5 ½ - 5 = 6 ½ ). So the tray theoretically may only be about 1 off center. The 1st photo makes it look more off center than it actually is in my opinion.

I have 5 players from 4 manufacturers and only one has the tray practically dead center. However, the others are about and inch or so off center.


Willie
post #144 of 1323
9/24/10 at 7:26pm
I know that you can do that with the analog cables. hopefully you can do it with the duel HDMI.

Jacob
post #145 of 1323
9/24/10 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

I think the tray is only slightly off center.

I don't think anyone doubts the tray is pretty much centered. It's the display we're talking about that doesn't look centered. It has to be off to the side, and smaller.
post #146 of 1323
9/24/10 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

Bill,


I think the tray is only slightly off center. If you look at the 2nd photo there seams to be about 4 or 5 inches gap between the eject button and the outer edge of the front fascia and on the other side of the eject button there seems to be about a another ½ inch before you get to the tray which measures 5 inches.

So, if we assume the same basic size as the current BDP-83 (16-7/8” or 17”). Assuming 17 inches across and the assumptions above the tray is most likely only slightly off center (17” – 5 ½” – 5” = 6 ½” ). So the tray theoretically may only be about 1” off center. The 1st photo makes it look more off center than it actually is in my opinion.

I have 5 players from 4 manufacturers and only one has the tray practically dead center. However, the others are about and inch or so off center.


Willie

Willie,

Its kind of hard to judge from those pictures as they are shot at an angle. So I'm guessing the tray will be centered with the display to the left of the tray. Somewhat similar to the layout of the BDP-80. Not a big deal especially if the BDP-95 (SE version?) will improve on the performance of the BDP-83SE.

I'm still hoping for digital input or inputs for the new SE version. Probably will not happen but it would be on my wish list. I would email Oppo with that request but I do not want to slow down the production of the BDP-93.

Bill
post #147 of 1323
9/24/10 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I know that you can do that with the analog cables. hopefully you can do it with the duel HDMI.

Jacob

I'm not sure why a Blu-ray player would need to have two individuals fight each other with HDMI cables, but I can see the utility in having dual HDMI outputs.
post #148 of 1323
9/24/10 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

I don't think anyone doubts the tray is pretty much centered. It's the display we're talking about that doesn't look centered. It has to be off to the side, and smaller.

I think the tray is dead center and, as you say, the display is off to the side. One "oddity" is that the eject button is located not on the metal faceplate like the other buttons, but integrated into the plastic of the display window. Seems like (a) it'd really show smudges and look dirty most of the time, and (b) the button would be very hard to find in dim light (so we'd have to feel around for it and smudge it up even more!).
post #149 of 1323
9/24/10 at 8:48pm
why the "infamous" tag???

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Originally Posted by Gene DellaSala View Post


Just when you thought there wasn't a better Universal Blu-ray player on
the market for under $500 than the infamous BDP-83 Universal Blu-ray
Player
post #150 of 1323
9/24/10 at 8:55pm
Infamous is a synonym for "notorious". Beyond this, for any other DVD/BD CE, OPPO is infamous for releasing high quality, lost cost players which put their products either to shame or in a bad light. To them, OPPO "does evil."
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