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post #151 of 1323
9/24/10 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

I think the tray is dead center and, as you say, the display is off to the side. One "oddity" is that the eject button is located not on the metal faceplate like the other buttons, but integrated into the plastic of the display window. Seems like (a) it'd really show smudges and look dirty most of the time, and (b) the button would be very hard to find in dim light (so we'd have to feel around for it and smudge it up even more!).

I hadn't thought about the smudgy eject button, but you're right--it would look dirty.

If I was designing the player, I'd keep the flush design of the tray, but give it an aluminum cover that matches the rest of the faceplate, and put it at the top. Then I'd put the display below it, keeping plastic to a minimum. The eject button would match the design of the other ones. IMHO, that would be much classier.

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post #152 of 1323
9/24/10 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by trevor-b View Post

why the "infamous" tag???

I doubt it's what it looks like....I suspect Gene just doesn't quite get the negative implications of the word. I'll bet he means something along the lines of "widely-praised" or "vaunted."
post #153 of 1323
9/24/10 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

That's the same reason for asking if all audio is active all the time on all outputs. I really want to know if Audio is set to HDMI, if it is full output on both HDMI's. All the HD Codecs and everything else. That way I could run one HDMI to Reciever for Dolby HD etc. when using the Home theater surround sound system. I could run the other HDMI straight to the TV, that way the Wife could watch DVD's just using the TV ( Less complicated). I could use the coaxial output to the DAC, and the LR Analoge's to my Pre-Amp. It's complicated on intial Hook-Up, but for the Wife, Kids, Friends, it a easy to use for all things.

For the HDMI-out that's going to a TV, what difference whether it can output the HD codecs? Your TV can't play them anyway, right? One way or another (i.e., whether it's the TV or the Oppo doing it), you'll get a stereo downmix out of the TV.
post #154 of 1323
9/24/10 at 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Are there any links to objective testing of this QDEO video processor? From the Marvell website I found this, which is kinda scary for people who want to see exactly what is on the disc or video stream (unless some of the things can be defeated):

"Qdeo refers to a suite of QuietVideo processing technologies that produce quiet and natural video free from noise and artifacts.

Qdeo processing includes three main stages:

* Noise Reduction: Per-pixel noise and compression artifact reduction removing noise inherent in digital video.
* Format Conversion: Per-pixel motion-adaptive 3D de-interlacing and advanced nonlinear scaling transforming the image to the desired resolution while suppressing artifacts like feathering and jaggies.
* Enhancement: 2D Edge Enhancement increasing detail and sensation of depth, Adaptive Contrast Enhancement (ACE) providing larger dynamic range and Intelligent Color Remapping (ICR) rendering rich and vivid images.


larry

All advanced video processors use noise reduction and edge enhancement to an extent. The key is how much, and where to apply it. It is an art form, really.
post #155 of 1323
9/25/10 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

I doubt it's what it looks like....I suspect Gene just doesn't quite get the negative implications of the word. I'll bet he means something along the lines of "widely-praised" or "vaunted."

That, or it's somewhat of a jab aimed at the grossly overpriced Lexicon version of the Oppo.
post #156 of 1323
9/25/10 at 6:21am
Thanks to everyone for the responses about the QDEO! I was mainly just curious and was trying to distinguish between marketing mumbo jumbo and real world behavior.

larry
post #157 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

I don't think anyone doubts the tray is pretty much centered. It's the display we're talking about that doesn't look centered. It has to be off to the side, and smaller.

Robert,

I misread the post and some how got fixated on the tray as opposed to the display.

Prior to everyone talking about the display I never really paid much attention to its location on any of my transports. The only transports that I own that have the display centered are my BDP-83SE and my Yamaha DVD-S1800. My other transports BDP-80, Sony S1000ES have the display to the left or right and my Pioneer Elite 23FDs display is to the far right.

So what is all this talk about the location of the display other than idle chit chat.


Willie
post #158 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:13am
Regarding the new face plate; it looks like it will be easier to replace or re-badge using the BDP-93 as an OEM platform. Another companies face plate should fit without requiring the machined, recessed, cutout for the display and disc tray as the Lexicon, Ayre, Theta Digital, etc. have done with the BDP-83. I imagine this was a design consideration by Oppo.
post #159 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:32am
Is the Oppo BDP-93 coming out in November or 4 -7 months just asking.
post #160 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:57am
Can any beta testers share information about whether the 93 will work with the hardware region-free mods?

I am about to go 3D and the current 3D players do not support SACD or PAL playback. The Panasonic website specifically states that it will not play SACD and hints at NTSC-only. I have many SACDs and several DVDs in other regions and need to maintain the current capability I have in my modded 83.

Mis-posted before on 83 owners' site. I am an 83 owner and would be a potential 93 buyer if there is a means to make the 93 region-free or one shows up shortly after the player goes on sale. In the meantime I make rack space available for a Panasonic 3D player, have the HDMI inputs and network connections nearby.

Dave - NOT Smarty-pants Dave, another one.
post #161 of 1323
9/25/10 at 8:34am
I have to say that I avoided buying a BDP-83 simply because I expected this player was coming... I wanted a true "universal" player (BD, DVD, CD, SACD, DVD-Audio & streaming video) with great build quality and excellent video processing that could be made region free. Obviously there was only one feature the BDP-83 was missing, and I had little doubt that Oppo wouldn't miss out on its next player. I would guess that it will likely be ady modifiable for region-free playback as Oppo has a long-standing history of not going out of their way to prevent one from doing so. *wink wink* I bought an expensive player with good performance (Panny DMP-BD65) to tide me over until this unit arrived. Unfortunately, it looks to arrive sooner than I thought! I might have to wait until summer to pick this unit up... but, barring some unexpected massive deficiency, you can be sure that I will be picking this unit up at some point!
post #162 of 1323
9/25/10 at 8:43am
I am going to pick this up for whole home BD distribution. Now I can get Netflix to any tv in the house with this one player. Very cool.
post #163 of 1323
9/25/10 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by michdys View Post

do you think the bdp93 will support flac , ape, wm lossless this time?
It would be great to connect an external hard disk with all my ripped cds...

+1

post #164 of 1323
9/25/10 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

I am going to pick this up for whole home BD distribution. Now I can get Netflix to any tv in the house with this one player. Very cool.

Curious...how do you plan to do this?
post #165 of 1323
9/25/10 at 10:21am
In 4-6 mo 3D might retire
post #166 of 1323
9/25/10 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

I am going to pick this up for whole home BD distribution. Now I can get Netflix to any tv in the house with this one player. Very cool.

isn't netflix streaming down rez to 720p max or lower bit rate than what is on bluray disk. I thought the streaming downloading stuff was even worse than cable HD.
Can any of the streaming boxes get 1080 and display that from the internet
post #167 of 1323
9/25/10 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by D_B_0673 View Post

isn't netflix streaming down rez to 720p max or lower bit rate than what is on bluray disk. I thought the streaming downloading stuff was even worse than cable HD.
Can any of the streaming boxes get 1080 and display that from the internet

I know several of the Rokus will display 1080 (the two new versions; the replaced XR will do 1080 with a upcoming firmware update) and the new SonyN100 is also 1080 ready.
post #168 of 1323
9/25/10 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by Spacedave View Post

Can any beta testers share information about whether the 93 will work with the hardware region-free mods?

Dave - NOT Smarty-pants Dave, another one.

I don't see how any user could really know that yet. My impression is that players are commercially released, and then the mod companies get their hands on them to develop their products. I hadn't thought of the possibility that 3D capability might impose some limitations in this regard....that's kind of a big deal for many people, so you raise an important point. Somebody like Casper at bluraychip.dk would probably be in the best position to speculate at this very early stage.
post #169 of 1323
9/25/10 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

In 4-6 mo 3D might retire

We can only hope.

(But I don't think it will...this is the next "upgrade bonanza" for the CE manufacturers.)
post #170 of 1323
9/25/10 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

We can only hope.

Funny...I had the exact same response, and then scrolled down and saw you already covered it.
post #171 of 1323
9/25/10 at 12:54pm
Based on CEDIA, 3D is not going anywhere. Every television and projector has some kind of 3D support. Hell, Sim2 is selling a 3D solution... and it requires that you use 2 of their projectors in parallel. Everyone from Epson, to JVC and Sony, to Wolf and Projector Designs are offering 3D solutions. All Blu-ray manufacturers are releasing 3D Blu-ray players.

The positive side, however, is that your 2D performance on many new plasmas and projectors will be better, as they have to compensate for the contrast output level which is sapped from 3D shutter glasses.
post #172 of 1323
9/25/10 at 4:33pm
Question. Is this player going to be able to do what the Dune Prime 3.0 does?
post #173 of 1323
9/25/10 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by Samaritano View Post

Question. Is this player going to be able to do what the Dune Prime 3.0 does?

No way. The Oppo is a Bluray player with SOME streaming and DLNA capability, like any other modern player. The Dune is a real media player that can play Bluray depending on the configuration. The big difference is the variety of file formats the Dune can process whereas the Oppo or any other BD player can't. Support of HDD and NTFS is also a must for a real media player and I doubt we will see it anytime soon on the Oppo.

For less than 100 bucks you can buy a decent media player to complement the Oppo and have the best of the 2 worlds. I am happy with my WDLIVE+ and also had the Asus O!play that can play all my media. The Dune would just be icing on the cake.

I will buy the Oppo 93 because I need SACD, Netflix and in near future the 2 HDMI outputs.
post #174 of 1323
9/25/10 at 6:05pm
The Pioneer BDP-09FD also has 2 HDMI out and I wonder if that's why the Oppo 93 will have the same chip . The reviews of the 09FD are really good and the list price of that player was 2000.00 !
post #175 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:03pm
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ff the top of my head FWIW (probably not much ): The last prominent QDEO related reviews I ever ran across were BD player reviews for the Pioneer 09FD and LG BH200 respectively. Probably your best starting

I had the LGBH200 for a couple of years and for upscaling of standard DVDs, I found it to be excellent -- but no better, IMO, than the Anchor Bay ABT2010. So I wouldn't consider it an upgrade myself, they're really apples and oranges but perhaps some would feel differently.
post #176 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:23pm
I emailed Oppo regarding the possibility of digital inputs on the new SE model. I got a reply back right away (no surprise there) that there is no plans for digital inputs on the future SE model. I did not expect there to be any but thought it would be a nice feature. If the new SE model will be improved over the current SE model I will definitely buy it. I am enjoying the current SE model very much.

Bill
post #177 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:27pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I emailed Oppo regarding the possibility of digital inputs on the new SE model. I got a reply back right away (no surprise there) that there is no plans for digital inputs on the future SE model. I did not expect there to be any but thought it would be a nice feature. If the new SE model will be improved over the current SE model I will definitely buy it. I am enjoying the current SE model very much.

Bill

What would you want the inputs for?
post #178 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:35pm
So you can use the player as a cheap, but very efficient, DAC.
post #179 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

So you can use the player as a cheap, but very efficient, DAC.

Ah! Isn't that what they make pre-amps (and DACs) for? No seriously, if you're going to need good audio processing for multiple sources, I don't really see how the SE makes sense. Putting the money into a good, central unit that can serve all your sources, and using players as transports, seems like an easier, more efficient solution to me.
post #180 of 1323
9/25/10 at 7:53pm
So, will the -93 come out before the replacement for -80???? Is there even an announcement on what is intended to replace the -80 in the line?

(I know this is -93 thread but can't seem to find anything on -80 thread....).

Thanks...

Edit: Nevermind.... found this

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3325

Highly disappointing......
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