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post #3481 of 5316
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

The matching sub is generally considered mediocre; two of them won't make them much better.
Egg has a discontinued Klipsch on sale for $300 frequently (it's $500 at the moment). That's a great deal.
I have that sub paired with my series 1 Pioneers.
I think I found my sub - Cadence MkII 12" , $399 normally but $299 direct at the moment with free shipping, supposedly really fast / tight - good for music .
post #3482 of 5316
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

And I for sure, do not need a drastic volume level increase for the Pioneer speakers - and I do not
compare an overall loudness level in a Best Buy open showroom. > There is plenty of room left on
the volume dial, in a 20 X 30 open room for me. Even the BS22 shelf speakers are not a wimp.

it was the other guy stating that the Pioneer's were not loud enough, i was just pointing out that since I owned the polk's which i returned and now have the Pioneer's - was trying to tell him that yes the polk's are more efficient on paper and in reality but it didn't matter to me as the Pioneer's sound SO much better (turn up the volume to compensate for the volume is what i was trying to let him know) .


Here's the NEW review of the BS22, C22 and sub (though very little info is given regarding the sub - as usual) : http://www.hometheater.com/content/pioneer-sp-bs22-lr-speaker-system
post #3483 of 5316
CNET and HT Mag 2012 Pioneer speaker review links:


CNET review of the 2012 Pioneer AJones' speakers: http://reviews.cnet.com/surround-speaker-systems/pioneer-sp-pk52fs/4505-7868_7-35477425.html

Here's the link to the HT mag review of the Pioneer's Dec 2012 issue, full article is on their web site here: http://www.hometheater.com/content/pioneer-sp-bs22-lr-speaker-system
Edited by hushdrops - 11/18/12 at 12:18am
post #3484 of 5316
Anyone with the 2nd gen set, what are you setting your crossover at? Is it 80-hertz all around, or should it be lower for the towers? Looking to pick up the set, minus the sub, today.
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I don't want to start a unnecessary argument about Pioneers vs. Polk. What matters is that you like the sound of whatever speaker you get. I just happened to like the sound of the Monitor 70 better than the Pioneers FS52. As I am sure there are other that prefer the FS52's over the Monitor 70.

So, to put it bluntly if you want the best budget speaker system out there the Pioneers are hard to beat.
post #3486 of 5316
i want to redo audyssey for my sub and fs51 towers etc. but before i do i want to get the tower tweeters to ear level. i guess i can use the padding that came with the towers and paint them black but id rather not. any cheap options out there?

ive tried amazon wallmart ikea etc. for stands but every pair of 10.5" stands is easily $40 plus. i dont want to pay that amount for stands for the fs51s and defeat the purpose of fs51 good value (i got them on sale at newegg for $130 a pair) for money if i could have just spent another $40 plus on perhaps better sounding towers that are taller.
Edited by bradymartin - 11/18/12 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by collven View Post

Anyone with the 2nd gen set, what are you setting your crossover at? Is it 80-hertz all around, or should it be lower for the towers? Looking to pick up the set, minus the sub, today.

80 is a good number to put the load onto the sub. Audyssey set my towers to 40, everything else to 60 which is a bit low I think.
post #3489 of 5316
Hey guys has anyone matched any different center channels with the FS52's? I bought the C22 to match but found it didn't produce the vocal clarity and highs I like from a center channel. I happened to find a great deal on a Def Tech CLR 2002, so I bought it. Suprisingly it blends very well with the 52's... has anyone tried any other centers with good success?
post #3490 of 5316
have you tried a c21?
post #3491 of 5316
no I haven't... does it have a brighter sound then the C22?
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Originally Posted by Masterjay88 View Post

no I haven't... does it have a brighter sound then the C22?

I have not heard them in equal rooms, but I know the c21 handles more power and has larger woofers. I also read that AJ made the C22 smaller because the c21 was so big and people complained. This tells me there might be some performance sacrifice there to get the cabinet to be smaller
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Great prices, great speakers, great retailer !

I have all the above plus the FS51's to round out a beautiful system in a 7.1 set-up.

Bought all from newegg.com
post #3495 of 5316
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Originally Posted by nograveconcern View Post

80 is a good number to put the load onto the sub. Audyssey set my towers to 40, everything else to 60 which is a bit low I think.

Sorry didn't see earlier. Thanks for the reply.
post #3496 of 5316
Looked at the review and needed some cost effective surrounds for my Magnepan MMG-Ws and CC3 setup. These fit the bill nicely for the living room with my Denon receiver.

Great sound so far.



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Hey guys I just purchased the BS21 speakers and was wondering what is the best way to wall mount these as I will be using them on my desk top but unfortunately i do not have a lot of room on my desk.

From what i can see these dont look like you can wall mount them but if anyone has pelase let me know what is the best way, or what wall mounts will work for them?
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Originally Posted by mgrotel View Post

I have not heard them in equal rooms, but I know the c21 handles more power and has larger woofers. I also read that AJ made the C22 smaller because the c21 was so big and people complained. This tells me there might be some performance sacrifice there to get the cabinet to be smaller

I can put your concerns to rest, because I have owned both centers, and auditioned extensively over a month's time each in my home. There are real performance gains to be had by upgrading to the 22 over the 21, not the least of which is the improved tweeter they've put inside.
post #3500 of 5316
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Originally Posted by [Irishman] View Post

I can put your concerns to rest, because I have owned both centers, and auditioned extensively over a month's time each in my home. There are real performance gains to be had by upgrading to the 22 over the 21, not the least of which is the improved tweeter they've put inside.

Good to know, have you compared the bs41 to the bs22? I know the bs22 is better than the bs21, but curious how the 22 compares to the 41.
post #3501 of 5316
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Originally Posted by vincedea View Post

Hey guys I just purchased the BS21 speakers and was wondering what is the best way to wall mount these as I will be using them on my desk top but unfortunately i do not have a lot of room on my desk.
From what i can see these dont look like you can wall mount them but if anyone has pelase let me know what is the best way, or what wall mounts will work for them?

we had the same problem. ended up getting the mounts from monoprice ( http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082804&p_id=6839&seq=1&format=2 ). they work really well. easily adjustable. and we drilled right in to the rear speaker at the top of the speaker. no sound loss or anything like that. there's just nothing up there that could damage the speaker. you really can't beat that price for 2 mounts either.
post #3502 of 5316
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Originally Posted by chrisv784 View Post

we had the same problem. ended up getting the mounts from monoprice ( http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082804&p_id=6839&seq=1&format=2 ). they work really well. easily adjustable. and we drilled right in to the rear speaker at the top of the speaker. no sound loss or anything like that. there's just nothing up there that could damage the speaker. you really can't beat that price for 2 mounts either.

How did you attache the bracket to the speaker ?

Did you use self-tapping screws ?
post #3503 of 5316
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Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post

How did you attache the bracket to the speaker ?
Did you use self-tapping screws ?

we took a drill and drilled a hole a few inches in to the speaker and used some self tapping wood screws. worked perfectly. those things are going anywhere. haha. i still can't get over the size of the speakers. they look a little absurd hanging off the wall, but the sound they put out is well worth it.
post #3504 of 5316
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Originally Posted by chrisv784 View Post

we took a drill and drilled a hole a few inches in to the speaker and used some self tapping wood screws. worked perfectly. those things are going anywhere. haha. i still can't get over the size of the speakers. they look a little absurd hanging off the wall, but the sound they put out is well worth it.

Do you have the full set of speakers yet ?
post #3505 of 5316
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Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post

Do you have the full set of speakers yet ?
Everything except for the sub. Was going to get it, then I found out in getting laid off in a few weeks so I decided against it for now. Haha! I'll get it at some point, but the sub we have already does a nice job keeping up with the pioneers.
post #3506 of 5316
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Originally Posted by chrisv784 View Post

Everything except for the sub. Was going to get it, then I found out in getting laid off in a few weeks so I decided against it for now. Haha! I'll get it at some point, but the sub we have already does a nice job keeping up with the pioneers.

Sorry to hear of your job loss, its really rotten news this time of year.

I still have the Martin Logan sub from the MLT's set-up, it does fine with the Pioneers.
post #3507 of 5316
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Originally Posted by BGLeduc View Post

Crossed over properly, they would work beautifully.
I currently run a NHT Evolution U2 sub setup with three B21's in a music only rig. Very pleased with it.
IMHO, these are speakers that, while literally dirt cheap, are not at all over matched when paired with a high quality sub. In fact, you do them a huge disservice by NOT going with a quality sub.
Having said that, you are still not going to get 105dB out of them, but kept within reasonable limits, no problem.
Brian
Can I use the Art USB Dual Mic Preamp and the Dayton Audio EMM-6 mic to measure the dB output before it reaches 105dB?
Edited by Stealth3si - 11/25/12 at 9:35pm
post #3508 of 5316
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Originally Posted by [Irishman] View Post

I can put your concerns to rest, because I have owned both centers, and auditioned extensively over a month's time each in my home. There are real performance gains to be had by upgrading to the 22 over the 21, not the least of which is the improved tweeter they've put inside.
Considering the 5.1 setup below in my signature, is it a wise move or worth $19.65, to upgrade my Pioneer SP-C21 center speaker to a Pioneer SP-C22 center speaker?
Edited by Stealth3si - 11/25/12 at 11:40pm
post #3509 of 5316
How does the sp c21 compare to the polk audio cs2 series ii?
post #3510 of 5316
Hi Everyone,

I have not been on in quite some time, things have been extremely busy the past few months. Just wanted to let everyone know that we are planning another "Open House" in February at our office in Long Beach.

Of course we (Andrew and myself) will be showing a new speaker project as well as giving a sneak peek of some new electronics.

Last time some people had asked that I give some additional notice so here it is.

Also, I would love to hear any ideas you you might have for our next speaker line-up or improvements we should make.

Thanks,

Chris Walker
Pioneer Electronics
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