Pioneer's Speaker Genius Hits Low Price Point - Page 124

Where'd you find them for so low?

Thanks fellas. I put them up on a couple 5" boxes (the only thing I had two of) but without being able to do an immediate A/B comparison it was honestly difficult to determine whether or not it made a difference. I'm only curious because I get employee pricing on Pioneer gear, so the cost to replace my 1st generation Andrew Jones set with 2nd generation would likely be entirely paid for with the sale of the originals.

Newegg has the SW-8 sub for $69 shipped (promo code EMCXWVV75). Pretty good price for that little sub

What's the word on the 51s vs 52s? Much of an improvement?

Did you read this post?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1278774/pioneers-speaker-genius-hits-low-price-point/3600#post_22743074

Bestbuy had a $50 off $100 purchase if Mastercard were used to pay. They had them for $125 regular price. I did 2 transactions for $75 each. I'm very happy with these speakers. I will just have to wait for the CS22 to be cheaper again.

Why? Was there a better price that I missed?

No, the review about the Pioneer sub - compared to the others at Best Buy.
Just wish it was bigger and had more spl.

Found the coupon on the anandtech forum. tytytytytyty!

Here it is for anyone else that's interested. I'll be checking in with them today.
http://image.emailinfo2.bestbuy.com/lib/fef41d77766c04/m/43/13729-2_MasterCardPromo_Coupon_final.pdf

Edit:
Upon further research, looks like BB retracted coupon, but will still try my luck tonight.
Edited by kw4k - 1/23/13 at 9:59am

I would recommend starting on page one and catching up. Your question will be answered in short order.

Thanks

I would jump on it if I had a use for it, but I promised myself not to buy an audio equipment that I don't really need

I dont know what you consider short order. You must be from a different universe. I just went from page 1 to 80 looking at about every 10 pages and there is still nothing significant regarding the 52s.

Perhaps someone helpful can just give me a brief summary of a general consensus of the 51s vs 52s. Better? Worse? Way better? Thats all Im asking for.

Better. Improved tweeter, waveguide, sensitivity, drivers and cabinet. All of these design refinements contribute to a better speaker, albeit a slight improvement.

I did a "ruh roh" at that suggestion because the 52's are a new product and you won't find anything on them until the last pages of this thread.

I believe the crossovers were updated as well

Take a look here >
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-reviews/64436-pioneer-andrew-jones-5-1-speaker-system-review.html#axzz2Is4vSrUo

True, they most likely were due to the new drivers. I don't know that I would say that the new crossover is an improvement over old one though. I assume that both are appropriate for their respective drivers.

Many thanks to all you guys.

Yi. What a goofball.

Well we have to keep it light and humorous around here. This thread is a great resource and I've read every page, however if someone wants a consensus of how the 52s compare to the 51s, wading through the first 100+ pages is not going to get you that comparison.

I can only assume that he is ignorant. But he should be more careful with his posts. I am usually bouncing around between about 30 threads trying to help people and sending someone on a fruitless search is just not cool. If he doesn't know the answer or doesn't have time to give one then just leave it alone.

I read this in a thread from a different forum from an overly aggressive poster:

He seems to make two assumptions: The previous editions for both the center speaker (SP-C21) and the floor-standing speaker (SP-FS21) are better sound quality; due to bigger drivers for the center speaker, and better build quality for the floor-standing speaker. It's stated matter of factly, almost as it should be consensus.

Can anyone validate or argue against his two assumptions? I had previously assumed the newer generation (SP-C22 and SP-FS22) speakers were an improvement; now I'm not as certain.

Thanks!

Amazon.com has the Pioneer FS-52's for $100.00 each.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B008NCD2S4

Makes me wish I had a spare room for them. A 7.0 system for seven hundred bucks, shipped free for Prime members? Yeah, that could work.

I haven't heard both series of speakers in the same conditions, so I'll refrain from making assumptions about how the sound compares. I will note that directionally bigger mid drivers is better, as he asserted. But it must be realized that this is a huge generalization and doesn't mean anything definitive about the speakers in question.

As for build quality, I don't believe there to be any significant difference. The cabinets are built from the same process and have the same finish. The only differences between series are small dimensional changes to accommodate different drivers, grills, and floor stander and center size. What I think he was referring to is the much lighter grill on the second series. The first series uses a fixed round metal grill. It's unique, it's very durable, and I think it's good looking. The second series uses a removable cloth grill. It's much more common to what you find on many other speakers. It's also a lot less durable, just like other speakers. I assume this was done to look more "normal" on the store shelf next to everyone else's speaker. If I were going to toss my speakers around or set them up right next to a dart board, I'd definitely choose the first series with the metal grills. If instead I were a normal person that used speakers in a normal way, I'd choose based on sound and/or whichever you find better looking. Durability should not be a concern.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

That guy on slickdeals is a Polk shill, and has no idea what he is talking about. He admitted he doesn't even own the 22 series, and he bases his audio tests on listening to speakers at Best Buy. That should tell you enough about him.

After trying the tower speakers with the 1402 marantz receiver it looks like it will unfortunately need to be replaced with something else. It just cannot put out enough power for the towers when compared to the temporary amp I have they hooked up to. It's a shame since I really liked the marantz feature wise but it seems like I will be looking to grab a denon 1612, so if anyone knows where to get a good deal on one that would be nice.