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post #3691 of 5317
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Originally Posted by olwe View Post

Finally got a pair of the FS52s for $163 tax in. These sound amazing. They replaced a pair of BS21s and now they're going to be moved to the back. Just need to find a nice corner shelf.

Where'd you find them for so low?
post #3692 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

In the huge Audioholics thread, several mentioned that vertical dispersion is so good, that raising them did nothing at all...
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Possibly. Why don't you put something about 3" thick under your 51s and find out? If so, you could build something proper or get a "speaker dude" for them.
Thanks fellas. I put them up on a couple 5" boxes (the only thing I had two of) but without being able to do an immediate A/B comparison it was honestly difficult to determine whether or not it made a difference. I'm only curious because I get employee pricing on Pioneer gear, so the cost to replace my 1st generation Andrew Jones set with 2nd generation would likely be entirely paid for with the sale of the originals.
post #3693 of 5317
Newegg has the SW-8 sub for $69 shipped (promo code EMCXWVV75). Pretty good price for that little sub smile.gif
post #3694 of 5317
What's the word on the 51s vs 52s? Much of an improvement?
post #3695 of 5317
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Newegg has the SW-8 sub for $69 shipped (promo code EMCXWVV75). Pretty good price for that little sub smile.gif

Did you read this post?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1278774/pioneers-speaker-genius-hits-low-price-point/3600#post_22743074
post #3696 of 5317
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Originally Posted by kw4k View Post

Where'd you find them for so low?

Bestbuy had a $50 off $100 purchase if Mastercard were used to pay. They had them for $125 regular price. I did 2 transactions for $75 each. I'm very happy with these speakers. I will just have to wait for the CS22 to be cheaper again.
post #3697 of 5317

Why? Was there a better price that I missed?
post #3698 of 5317
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Why? Was there a better price that I missed?

No, the review about the Pioneer sub - compared to the others at Best Buy.
Just wish it was bigger and had more spl.
post #3699 of 5317
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Originally Posted by olwe View Post

Bestbuy had a $50 off $100 purchase if Mastercard were used to pay. They had them for $125 regular price. I did 2 transactions for $75 each. I'm very happy with these speakers. I will just have to wait for the CS22 to be cheaper again.
Found the coupon on the anandtech forum. tytytytytyty!

Here it is for anyone else that's interested. I'll be checking in with them today.
http://image.emailinfo2.bestbuy.com/lib/fef41d77766c04/m/43/13729-2_MasterCardPromo_Coupon_final.pdf

Edit:
Upon further research, looks like BB retracted coupon, but will still try my luck tonight.
Edited by kw4k - 1/23/13 at 9:59am
post #3700 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

What's the word on the 51s vs 52s? Much of an improvement?

I would recommend starting on page one and catching up. Your question will be answered in short order.
post #3701 of 5317
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Originally Posted by [Irishman] View Post

I would recommend starting on page one and catching up. Your question will be answered in short order.
Thanks
post #3702 of 5317
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

No, the review about the Pioneer sub - compared to the others at Best Buy.
Just wish it was bigger and had more spl.

I would jump on it if I had a use for it, but I promised myself not to buy an audio equipment that I don't really need smile.gif
post #3703 of 5317
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Originally Posted by [Irishman] View Post

I would recommend starting on page one and catching up. Your question will be answered in short order.
I dont know what you consider short order. You must be from a different universe. I just went from page 1 to 80 looking at about every 10 pages and there is still nothing significant regarding the 52s.

Perhaps someone helpful can just give me a brief summary of a general consensus of the 51s vs 52s. Better? Worse? Way better? Thats all Im asking for.
post #3704 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I dont know what you consider short order. You must be from a different universe. I just went from page 1 to 80 looking at about every 10 pages and there is still nothing significant regarding the 52s.

Perhaps someone helpful can just give me a brief summary of a general consensus of the 51s vs 52s. Better? Worse? Way better? Thats all Im asking for.
Better. Improved tweeter, waveguide, sensitivity, drivers and cabinet. All of these design refinements contribute to a better speaker, albeit a slight improvement.
post #3705 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I dont know what you consider short order. You must be from a different universe. I just went from page 1 to 80 looking at about every 10 pages and there is still nothing significant regarding the 52s.

Perhaps someone helpful can just give me a brief summary of a general consensus of the 51s vs 52s. Better? Worse? Way better? Thats all Im asking for.

I did a "ruh roh" at that suggestion because the 52's are a new product and you won't find anything on them until the last pages of this thread.
post #3706 of 5317
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Originally Posted by nograveconcern View Post

Better. Improved tweeter, waveguide, sensitivity, drivers and cabinet. All of these design refinements contribute to a better speaker, albeit a slight improvement.

I believe the crossovers were updated as well
post #3707 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

can just give me a brief summary of a general consensus of the 51s vs 52s. Better? Worse? Way better? Thats all Im asking for.

Take a look here >
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-reviews/64436-pioneer-andrew-jones-5-1-speaker-system-review.html#axzz2Is4vSrUo
post #3708 of 5317
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Originally Posted by JD in NJ View Post

I believe the crossovers were updated as well

True, they most likely were due to the new drivers. I don't know that I would say that the new crossover is an improvement over old one though. I assume that both are appropriate for their respective drivers.
post #3709 of 5317
Many thanks to all you guys. smile.gif
post #3710 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Sonyad View Post

I did a "ruh roh" at that suggestion because the 52's are a new product and you won't find anything on them until the last pages of this thread.
Yi. What a goofball.
post #3711 of 5317
Well we have to keep it light and humorous around here. This thread is a great resource and I've read every page, however if someone wants a consensus of how the 52s compare to the 51s, wading through the first 100+ pages is not going to get you that comparison.
post #3712 of 5317
I can only assume that he is ignorant. But he should be more careful with his posts. I am usually bouncing around between about 30 threads trying to help people and sending someone on a fruitless search is just not cool. If he doesn't know the answer or doesn't have time to give one then just leave it alone.
post #3713 of 5317
I read this in a thread from a different forum from an overly aggressive poster:
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Bottom line is they cheapened up the new series and took away the larger bookshelf option. Sensitivity of the towers are still 87db, like the old towers.Spin it any way you want. If I could choose the old models or the new models, I would choose the old models in a heartbeat. I've auditioned the new towers at BB and they didn't sound any better to me. Plus the speaker grills were busted up on the display speakers due to the cheap grilles. They look VERY cheap.

New center is rated to 90w. Old center is rated to 130w.

He seems to make two assumptions: The previous editions for both the center speaker (SP-C21) and the floor-standing speaker (SP-FS21) are better sound quality; due to bigger drivers for the center speaker, and better build quality for the floor-standing speaker. It's stated matter of factly, almost as it should be consensus.

Can anyone validate or argue against his two assumptions? I had previously assumed the newer generation (SP-C22 and SP-FS22) speakers were an improvement; now I'm not as certain.

Thanks!
post #3714 of 5317
Amazon.com has the Pioneer FS-52's for $100.00 each.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B008NCD2S4
post #3715 of 5317
Makes me wish I had a spare room for them. A 7.0 system for seven hundred bucks, shipped free for Prime members? Yeah, that could work.
post #3716 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Sevrer View Post

He seems to make two assumptions: The previous editions for both the center speaker (SP-C21) and the floor-standing speaker (SP-FS21) are better sound quality; due to bigger drivers for the center speaker, and better build quality for the floor-standing speaker. It's stated matter of factly, almost as it should be consensus.

Can anyone validate or argue against his two assumptions? I had previously assumed the newer generation (SP-C22 and SP-FS22) speakers were an improvement; now I'm not as certain.

Thanks!
I haven't heard both series of speakers in the same conditions, so I'll refrain from making assumptions about how the sound compares. I will note that directionally bigger mid drivers is better, as he asserted. But it must be realized that this is a huge generalization and doesn't mean anything definitive about the speakers in question.

As for build quality, I don't believe there to be any significant difference. The cabinets are built from the same process and have the same finish. The only differences between series are small dimensional changes to accommodate different drivers, grills, and floor stander and center size. What I think he was referring to is the much lighter grill on the second series. The first series uses a fixed round metal grill. It's unique, it's very durable, and I think it's good looking. The second series uses a removable cloth grill. It's much more common to what you find on many other speakers. It's also a lot less durable, just like other speakers. I assume this was done to look more "normal" on the store shelf next to everyone else's speaker. If I were going to toss my speakers around or set them up right next to a dart board, I'd definitely choose the first series with the metal grills. If instead I were a normal person that used speakers in a normal way, I'd choose based on sound and/or whichever you find better looking. Durability should not be a concern.
post #3717 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Sevrer View Post

I read this in a thread from a different forum from an overly aggressive poster:
He seems to make two assumptions: The previous editions for both the center speaker (SP-C21) and the floor-standing speaker (SP-FS21) are better sound quality; due to bigger drivers for the center speaker, and better build quality for the floor-standing speaker. It's stated matter of factly, almost as it should be consensus.

Can anyone validate or argue against his two assumptions? I had previously assumed the newer generation (SP-C22 and SP-FS22) speakers were an improvement; now I'm not as certain.

Thanks!


Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
post #3718 of 5317
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Originally Posted by Sevrer View Post

I read this in a thread from a different forum from an overly aggressive poster:
He seems to make two assumptions: The previous editions for both the center speaker (SP-C21) and the floor-standing speaker (SP-FS21) are better sound quality; due to bigger drivers for the center speaker, and better build quality for the floor-standing speaker. It's stated matter of factly, almost as it should be consensus.

Can anyone validate or argue against his two assumptions? I had previously assumed the newer generation (SP-C22 and SP-FS22) speakers were an improvement; now I'm not as certain.

Thanks!

That guy on slickdeals is a Polk shill, and has no idea what he is talking about. He admitted he doesn't even own the 22 series, and he bases his audio tests on listening to speakers at Best Buy. That should tell you enough about him.
post #3719 of 5317
After trying the tower speakers with the 1402 marantz receiver it looks like it will unfortunately need to be replaced with something else. It just cannot put out enough power for the towers when compared to the temporary amp I have they hooked up to. It's a shame since I really liked the marantz feature wise but it seems like I will be looking to grab a denon 1612, so if anyone knows where to get a good deal on one that would be nice. smile.gif
post #3720 of 5317
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

That guy on slickdeals is a Polk shill, and has no idea what he is talking about. He admitted he doesn't even own the 22 series, and he bases his audio tests on listening to speakers at Best Buy. That should tell you enough about him.
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