Pioneer's Speaker Genius Hits Low Price Point - Page 128

Originally Posted by Necromancyr 

So...I got my BS22/C22 fronts and BS21 sides finally setup completely - and using the thicker speaker wire from I grabbed from Monoprice (is it ok to name them?) instead of the think 18-20 gauge crap I had from my old HTIB setup - and...holy god damn. I mean...wow. For the first time in a LONG time I actually sat and just listened to music for a good half hour...and wow. I'm hearing things I never heard before - distinct hits on instruments, percussion hits I never realized I should hear, actual pick hits....just wow.

Gotta say...I know these aren't 'the best of the best' but...these really improved my listening experience a ton. Thanks to everyone both on this thread and others that gave advice and led me to these. Definitely worth the money and a HUGE improvement over what I had!

Originally Posted by Golfdad123 

I purchased the first generation floorstanders, center and surrounds last summer from Best Buy but they only had the floor model of the BS-21s. The bottom edges were a little scuffed up but since they were going in my basement setup and wouldn't be seen I didn't care. I may be moving them to another setup where they'd be more visible. I guess I could contact Pioneer to see if they have some kind of touch-up stick or something. Wondering if anybody has used anything to touch up their speakers.

Originally Posted by drewTT 

Anyone using the 2nd gen towers with a tube amp? I just picked up a pair to start building a budget analog system.

Originally Posted by vraxoin 

The old black veneer "fixer" is the Sharpie. For scratches I usually just follow the scratch and wipe over the line I just followed with my finger to pick up excess. I've touched up Dunlavys, Tannoys and others with a Sharpie and it's very hard to tell that there were scratches at any distance.

Originally Posted by Halfbreedinkc 

I'm considering the 22's vs. the 41's and was wondering what folks thought? I'm currently running a set of BIC DV-62si's for front L/R and an original DV-62CLRS for my center (no rears currently), which is huge compared to centers I see today. My main reason for looking at them quite simply, I'm currently "downsizing" and will shortly be relocating to a much smaller place and won't need big speakers - the majority of the time, the system is used for movies/surround sound, but I do like to listen to music (all varieties), albeit at substantially less than "make your ears bleed" levels these days.

Being from the "old school" I can't imagine a 4" driver performing equally, let alone better than, a 5.25" driver. Thoughts? It's too bad they can't both be auditioned together. Although I do understand that driver technology advances have been substantial in the last 15 years plus.

Right now I'm driving the BIC's with an older Sony DB930, which I'm also planning on replacing in the very near future (and planning to go with the "less is more" philosophy there as well).

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by limsilas 

Hi all,

I know a few people have discussed using the Pinpoint AM-40B to wall-mount their BS41s / BS21s / BS22s, but I was wondering if people could comment a little bit more on how well the mount clamps to the speaker, given that the Pioneer BSs have curved cabinets? It seems that the smart thing to do is to also secure the bottom of the speaker to the mount, by using something like Velcro or adhesive strips.

Also, I read that the bookshelves are supposed to have at least 6 inches clearance from the wall for optimal sound - do the Pinpoint mounts provide this kind of clearance, and if not, is that an issue?

And is there any kind of clever way to hide the speaker wire along the arm of the mount?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by hyghwayman 

Solution to all of the above issues,

Originally Posted by cub4bearin 

hey guys....
I would love to go thru the entire 128 pages of these thread.. but, it is simply way to much to read

I am just wondering whats Your opinion... are these speakers anywhere at close level to brands like:
Ascend http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cbm170/cbm170.html

OR

Arx A1b http://www.theaudioinsider.com/product_info.php?p=arx-a1b-monitor-loudspeaker&products_id=65&

OR any of the DefTech Studiomonitors 350/450, SM45???

I know price for the Pioneer is very low.. but are they as good as people say? or its better to save for something from above list?

Thanks a lot for input.

Originally Posted by postrokfan 

The Pioneer speakers (especially 2nd gen) are phenomenal for the price. However, the Ascend, Arx, and Deftech speakers (SM45, SM55 not the 350s or 450s) you mentioned are on another level.

Originally Posted by vraxoin 

The old black veneer "fixer" is the Sharpie. For scratches I usually just follow the scratch and wipe over the line I just followed with my finger to pick up excess. I've touched up Dunlavys, Tannoys and others with a Sharpie and it's very hard to tell that there were scratches at any distance.

Originally Posted by skriefal 

Black Sharpies aren't black. They're a very dark purple. I've used them in the past to cover scratches in speakers and audio equipment -- and have usually regretted it. It can leave you with something that looks worse then before you "repaired" it, especially under certain types of lighting./quote]



I tried a sharpie on some Yamaha speakers and they didn't look very good but they were plastic. I guess it depends on the cabinet. I think there might be scuffs on the bottom, if so I'll give it a try there first but I'm guessing it won't match.

Originally Posted by The Murderousone 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0S6-0016-00020

Will bestbuy price match this?

Originally Posted by The Murderousone 

Been waiting man....how long has it been?

Originally Posted by The Murderousone 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0S6-0016-00020

Will bestbuy price match this?

Originally Posted by raypjuarez 

So here's a crazy question. If you were to say, I'm going to upgrade my system from the Andrew Jones second generation to next level system. What would that system be? Just wondering. I own the first generation and love it but have always wonderes w at i would upgrade to when the time comes. (Besides the 2nd gen)

Originally Posted by raypjuarez 

So here's a crazy question. If you were to say, I'm going to upgrade my system from the Andrew Jones second generation to next level system. What would that system be? Just wondering. I own the first generation and love it but have always wonderes w at i would upgrade to when the time comes. (Besides the 2nd gen)

Originally Posted by cub4bearin 



Here are mine price matched with tigerdirect. But I don't like them so they going back. Overall good deal though.

Originally Posted by raypjuarez 

So here's a crazy question. If you were to say, I'm going to upgrade my system from the Andrew Jones second generation to next level system. What would that system be? Just wondering. I own the first generation and love it but have always wonderes w at i would upgrade to when the time comes. (Besides the 2nd gen)

Originally Posted by raypjuarez 

So here's a crazy question. If you were to say, I'm going to upgrade my system from the Andrew Jones second generation to next level system. What would that system be? Just wondering. I own the first generation and love it but have always wonderes w at i would upgrade to when the time comes. (Besides the 2nd gen)