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post #3961 of 5316
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Originally Posted by jthornton17 View Post

I was trying to figure out what DB level I should put these speakers at. I'm using them with a Mirage v2 cc speaker and martin logan dynamo sub. I was watching a movie today and they are just great for movies. But any help or advice on that would be great. Thanks.

What receiver are you using? Does it have any built-in sound equalization such as Audyssey? If it does, I recommend using the included mic and running through the sound set up process.
post #3962 of 5316
I wished it did. I got if off craigslist for 35 bucks. it's a basic yamaha receiver. It's about 3 years old. but it doesn't have the mike.
post #3963 of 5316
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Originally Posted by jthornton17 View Post

I wished it did. I got if off craigslist for 35 bucks. it's a basic yamaha receiver. It's about 3 years old. but it doesn't have the mike.
What model?
post #3964 of 5316
rx-v363
post #3965 of 5316
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Originally Posted by jthornton17 View Post

rx-v363
You got a great deal on it. I would set the db level at 0 for both the speaker and sub. Set the crossover on the sub all the way up and the sub crossover in the 363 at 100. See how that sounds and then tweak the volumes in the 363 accordingly.
post #3966 of 5316
same with the pioneer floor speakers and mirage center speaker? 0 DB at all of them? I've got them at +4 right now.
post #3967 of 5316
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Originally Posted by jthornton17 View Post

same with the pioneer floor speakers and mirage center speaker? 0 DB at all of them? I've got them at +4 right now.
My bad. I forgot about those. That complicates things a great deal. It would be impossible for me to tell you what to set all of the speakers at. There are just too many variables. Room size, how the room is laid out, where is the furniture, etc. I was thinking you only had a soundbar. Only thing I can tell you is to experiment until you find it satisfactory.
I would start with the sub and avr crossover settings I suggested though.
Another option would be that you could buy a cheap SPL meter at Radio Shack or somewhere and learn how to use it.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/24/13 at 8:59pm
post #3968 of 5316
I have to agree. I got the martin logan dynamo 500 sub and added a mirage v2 cc speaker. Left just the floor speakers and they sound great. I can't decide yet if I want to add some surrounds or not. If I do, I may go with the mirage nanosats.
post #3969 of 5316
I have to agree. I got the martin logan dynamo 500 sub and added a mirage v2 cc speaker. Left just the floor speakers and they sound great. I can't decide yet if I want to add some surrounds or not. If I do, I may go with the mirage nanosats.
post #3970 of 5316
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Originally Posted by jthornton17 View Post

I wished it did. I got if off craigslist for 35 bucks. it's a basic Yamaha receiver. It's about 3 years old. but it doesn't have the mike.
Does Yamaha sell the mic separately?
post #3971 of 5316
The rx-v363 is a great receiver but it doesn't look like it supports YPAO.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/stereo-receivers/rx-v363_black__u/?mode=model

To level match the speakers, you would want to use a good sound meter. Maybe your friends have one?

If you can't find a good level meter, you could try and match it by ear which would be more difficult.

Your best bet would be to play around with different settings with different material and just choose what sounds good to you.
post #3972 of 5316
Thanks for all the info. I've been playing around with them. For a total mix of speakers, they have an amazing sound. LIve concerts are great on this set of speakers.
post #3973 of 5316
Shop.com has the Pioneer SP-FS52 130 W RMS Speaker - 3-way for $88.10 each without shipping.
post #3974 of 5316
Amazon has the FS-52 floor standers for $86.99/ea. - checked Best Buy, they have them on sale for the same price.
post #3975 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Halfbreedinkc View Post

Amazon has the FS-52 floor standers for $86.99/ea. - checked Best Buy, they have them on sale for the same price.

I'm thinking of buying a pair and using them as my front L/R wides 😳
post #3976 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I'm thinking of buying a pair and using them as my front L/R wides 😳

What speakers do you have for your main fronts? I have a pair that I'm using as my front L/R until they get broken in. Then, I'll move them to my 2.1 system.

I must admit the Pioneers sound good. I just finishing watching The Hobbit and they sounded really good in my 5.1 system.
post #3977 of 5316
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

What speakers do you have for your main fronts? I have a pair that I'm using as my front L/R until they get broken in. Then, I'll move them to my 2.1 system.

I must admit the Pioneers sound good. I just finishing watching The Hobbit and they sounded really good in my 5.1 system.

I'm using Polk Audio Monitor 70s and Monitor 25c.
post #3978 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I'm using Polk Audio Monitor 70s and Monitor 25c.

Since you'll be using them as front wides, timbre matching isn't as crucial. Who knows, you may decide to use them from your front mains.
post #3979 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I'm using Polk Audio Monitor 70s and Monitor 25c.

I still think it's better to stick to the same speaker line for your front sound stage, even for the wides.
post #3980 of 5316
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

Since you'll be using them as front wides, timbre matching isn't as crucial. Who knows, you may decide to use them from your front mains.

That's never going to happened. I've listened to those pioneers and they've got nothing on the Monitors 70s.
post #3981 of 5316
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

I still think it's better to stick to the same speaker line for your front sound stage, even for the wides.

I'm thinking the same too. Probably will wait since I'm thinking of possibly getting a second sub instead.
post #3982 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I'm thinking the same too. Probably will wait since I'm thinking of possibly getting a second sub instead.

Matching dual subs are nice. Really does help to smooth out the bass frequency response in a room. I love having duals. biggrin.gif
post #3983 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

That's never going to happened. I've listened to those pioneers and they've got nothing on the Monitors 70s.
I certainly don't expect them to beat what you have now but I still think they are good value if a person has limited funds to spend on speakers.
post #3984 of 5316
They are such great value
post #3985 of 5316
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

I certainly don't expect them to beat what you have now but I still think they are good value if a person has limited funds to spend on speakers.

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Originally Posted by wse View Post

They are such great value

I do agree that they are a great value and are good speakers as well, but we can't compare them to the Monitor 70. I think the Monito 60 and the FS52 are a close match. The 60s have more bass, but the 52 have a little better highs.

If I didn't find such a good deal on the 70s, I would of gone with the 52s.
post #3986 of 5316
I have a pair of Sony SSF-7000 & Athena 15345 Point 5 MKII System Home Theater Speaker Package minus the sub. I paid $150 for the Sony off of CL from someone in the military who was leaving the islands a few years ago. The Athena speakers were purchased from Amazon.com back in 2005 for about $195.
I still have a Paradigm Sub Woofer that's about 20 years old and still going strong. Forgot the model # but it is a huge one. I will keep this.

I am seriously thinking about picking up 2 SP-FS52, 1 SP-C22, & 4 (2 pair) SP-BS22-LR. I will buy it from BB with the 18 months no interest and try to sale my others speakers on CL.
post #3987 of 5316
I've been loving these speakers so far. I picked up a pair of the bookshelves not too long ago. My system is coming together slowly, but I'm still moving forward. The Klipsch RW-12D is on sale fr $280 + free shipping from newegg. I'll probably order this sometime today. Thanks for the advice everyone.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780078&Tpk=RW-12d&IsVirtualParent=1
post #3988 of 5316
Hi all,

I have a HTIB which I am happy with for now. I was planning on buying a AV receiver and separate speakers in the future but I am y have to buy them sooner than I had thought.

I got the Pioneer receiver 1522k from Costco and I can't use my HTIB speakers (3ohms) I can only use the center (6 ohms).

So I need to but at least the front L/R speakers to be able to use the receiver. I am on a budget and so far found that the Pioneer AJ FS-52 floor standing speakers are in my budget. I will be using it mainly for TV and movies but occasionally for music as well (spotify etc)

I will start with 2.1 and build it slowly adding surround and sub a little later.


The room size is 22x19, would this speaker fill the room nicely. its an open layout with 3 sides have a wall and the fourth side open to kitchen and another room.

Are there any other speaker that I should consider. I am no audiophile and am happy with my HTIB so I think this will be an upgrade for me and I am sure I will be happy with anything above HTIB speakers.

Also, I have noticed using my HTIB that I don't like the volume to go up to much, do these speakers play well with low volumes.
post #3989 of 5316
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Originally Posted by sid369 View Post

I got the Pioneer receiver 1522k from Costco and I can't use my HTIB speakers (3ohms)

Have you tried the HTiB speakers with the receiver? While the nominal 3 Ohm impedance won't match and you won't be able to drive the speakers to their maximum or with maximum efficiency, they should still work.

As long as you don't try to drive them too hard, your speakers and receiver should remain undamaged.
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I am on a budget and so far found that the Pioneer AJ FS-52 floor standing speakers are in my budget. ... I will start with 2.1 and build it slowly adding surround and sub a little later.

I think you mean 3.0, unless you omitted mentioning that you plan to use a HTiB sub with your FS-52LR fronts. If you mean 3.0 and are planning to use the HTiB center with the FS-52LR fronts, then I recommend not doing so, but instead configure a "phantom" center. In this case you may also want to stick with 2.0 and save the HTiB sub for lesser duties so you can run the fronts at full range.

The sub is the expensive component and as I'm sure you've learned from reading this thread, it's worth saving up money to buy a decent one
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The room size is 22x19, would this speaker fill the room nicely. its an open layout with 3 sides have a wall and the fourth side open to kitchen and another room.

Presuming that's feet, not meters, and that you have a typical ceiling height, the fact that you tend to listen at low volume suggests that you'll have plenty of volume from your receiver and FS-52LR fronts and they should sound great after you run MCACC. Be sure to keep the speakers set to "LARGE" if you are not using a sub, or set them to "SMALL" if you are.
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Are there any other speaker that I should consider. I am no audiophile and am happy with my HTIB so I think this will be an upgrade for me and I am sure I will be happy with anything above HTIB speakers.

Apart from the first generation speakers, there are almost no budget speakers which offer the value these speakers offer. You'll be paying a lot more to get better sounding speakers (and that money should be saved for the sub).

It's a truism of audio enthusiasm that it doesn't matter how "good" the new gear is as long as it's better than the old gear. Almost everyone starts their home theater with the HTiB.
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I don't like the volume to go up to much, do these speakers play well with low volumes.

They do, though you should bear in mind that any speakers in a real space will provide a diminishing sound quality below some volume, hence the "louder is better" phenomenon loved by salesdroids. Unless you listen at a silly whispering volume, you should be fine.

Let us know what you think when you have your speakers positioned (not too close to the walls and different distances from side and back), angled slightly toward the listening position, MCACCed and playing your reference audio material.
post #3990 of 5316
SC-1522-K is rated for 4 ohm up to 8 ohms.
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