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post #4051 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I received an email from newegg.com that has a 30% off for audio, which includes the Pioneer Phase 2 speakers. With this code you can have a pair of FS-52's for $189 dollars shipped, which I almost ordered, but I don't think they'd pair well with my Polk Audio set up.

Here's the code if anyone is willing to try it. It might work for you, but at times the codes are linked to specific email. This code also work for the center and bookshelves.

BTEXSWR54

Thanks for sharing.

I just tried the promo code and it didn't work for me. I'm in Canada but I have purchased things from Newegg.com in the past and had the items shipped to a US address.
post #4052 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I received an email from newegg.com that has a 30% off for audio, which includes the Pioneer Phase 2 speakers. With this code you can have a pair of FS-52's for $189 dollars shipped, which I almost ordered, but I don't think they'd pair well with my Polk Audio set up.

Here's the code if anyone is willing to try it. It might work for you, but at times the codes are linked to specific email. This code also work for the center and bookshelves.

BTEXSWR54

Thank you for the code, but I think you would be better served switching over. Just get the front three as Pioneers and stick with that.
post #4053 of 5316
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Originally Posted by JohnnyWash1 View Post

Thank you for the code, but I think you would be better served switching over. Just get the front three as Pioneers and stick with that.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I've listened to the Pioneers before, and even though they are good speakers for the money my Monitor 70s, 25c, Jamo s426 and Energy EF-500 sound much better to me.
Edited by GusGus748s - 4/16/13 at 7:49am
post #4054 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Sorry to disappoint you, but I've listened to the Pioneers before, and even though they are good speakers for the money my Monitor 70s, 25c, Jamo s426 and Energy EF-500 sound much better.

You should've said "...sound much better to me." That way you wouldn't have felt the need to apologize for anything.

Many people, if not most, prefer the sound of the Pioneers over the Polks. It's all subjective.
post #4055 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

You should've said "...sound much better to me." That way you wouldn't have felt the need to apologize for anything.

Many people, if not most, prefer the sound of the Pioneers over the Polks. It's all subjective.

Fixed! I was going to buy the Pios, but I found that I need to considerably increase the volume to get the same sound as the Polk. I got a pair of Monitor 70 II for $321 shipped new. If I hadn't found a deal like that I would of bought the Pio. However, I think it is somewhat unfair to comparing the Monitor 70 with the FS52. In my opinion the FS52 are more in line with the Monitor 60 s.

Anyway getting a pair of FS52 for $188 dollars is probably the best deal I've seen.
post #4056 of 5316
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Fixed! I was going to buy the Pios, but I found that I need to considerably increase the volume to get the same sound as the Polk. I got a pair of Monitor 70 II for $321 shipped new. If I hadn't found a deal like that I would of bought the Pio. However, I think it is somewhat unfair to comparing the Monitor 70 with the FS52. In my opinion the FS52 are more in line with the Monitor 60 s.

Anyway getting a pair of FS52 for $188 dollars is probably the best deal I've seen.

Ha. Hey I can agree with you here. I too found it took considerably more power to get the Pioneers (1st gen) to sound the way I liked. There also seemed to be a point where they simply stopped gettting louder, cleanly. I honestly didn't know this until I upgraded though.
post #4057 of 5316
Was at Best Buy wasting time before a meeting and saw the new version towers and the books and I have to say that they definetely pass the "knock test" and those enclosures are freaking rigid for sure! Excellent enclosures, wonder if the towers come with spikes? Any owners chime in there. Best Buy is even cheaper than Parts Express. I swear the tweeter looks like one of the Vifa tweets and those monsters are super sensitive and capable sounding. They look good and look well made.


Brian in Bakersfield...
Edited by Hspecialist - 4/17/13 at 2:31pm
post #4058 of 5316
I upgraded my fronts and center to a FS52/C22 set a few months back, along with upgrading my AVR to a Denon 2113CI.

Just last night I found a pair of BS21s at Walmart for considerably less than their list price, so I snapped them up as better matched surrounds vs. the Omnisat Micros I had been using.

For surrounds I prefer them over the BS22s: They are slightly smaller and given their location in my family room, the metal grilles are less likely to get damaged by my goofy dogs tongue.gif

Consider me impressed!
post #4059 of 5316
Grinning dog, which Audyssey curve did you calibrate with? Very curious your sound using regular curve vs. flat. I have researched your receiver a bunch and was going to purchase at one time. Fry's Electronics has/had for like $399, crazy great price.


Brian in Bakersfield...
Edited by Hspecialist - 4/19/13 at 4:29pm
post #4060 of 5316
So I was doing some critical listening today and I noticed an abundance of "sssss" sounds in the highs coming out from the center speaker and towers. I don't know how I missed this before. I noticed the same on different movies. Audyssey on and off, even with treble turned down. I probably have about 10 hours on these speakers.

Do the tweeters on the pioneers need to be broken in? If so, for how many hours?
post #4061 of 5316
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Originally Posted by csgamer View Post

So I was doing some critical listening today and I noticed an abundance of "sssss" sounds in the highs coming out from the center speaker and towers. I don't know how I missed this before. I noticed the same on different movies. Audyssey on and off, even with treble turned down. I probably have about 10 hours on these speakers.

Do the tweeters on the pioneers need to be broken in? If so, for how many hours?

Further break-in won't alter the basic response. The highs on the towers are tilted up considerably, but turning down the treble should take care of that. This sounds like an electronic issue that's just being passed on by the speakers. Do you have another speaker lying around that you could swap in just to establish that the hiss is coming from a front-end component and not the speakers?
post #4062 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

Further break-in won't alter the basic response. The highs on the towers are tilted up considerably, but turning down the treble should take care of that. This sounds like an electronic issue that's just being passed on by the speakers. Do you have another speaker lying around that you could swap in just to establish that the hiss is coming from a front-end component and not the speakers?

I think the OP is talking about sibilance, not hiss.

Brian
post #4063 of 5316
Hi guys, would it be wise to get the SP-FS52-LR's for theater use or should I just get the SP-BS22-LR's? I plan on a 5.1 setup and my room isn't very big.
post #4064 of 5316
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Originally Posted by ShadowJ20 View Post

Hi guys, would it be wise to get the SP-FS52-LR's for theater use or should I just get the SP-BS22-LR's? I plan on a 5.1 setup and my room isn't very big.
I would get the 52s. Theyre not that much more. What size is the room?
post #4065 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I would get the 52s. Theyre not that much more. What size is the room?

Don't know the exact size but it's not very big (it's a bed room). What are the advantages of a floor standing speaker vs book shelf for home theater use?
post #4066 of 5316
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Originally Posted by ShadowJ20 View Post

Don't know the exact size but it's not very big (it's a bed room). What are the advantages of a floor standing speaker vs book shelf for home theater use?
Same as any other use. More output, bigger soundstage, better bass. This is for your case. Not necessarily true for a cheap tower vs a really nice bookshelf.
post #4067 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Same as any other use. More output, bigger soundstage, better bass. This is for your case. Not necessarily true for a cheap tower vs a really nice bookshelf.

Alright thanks for the advice, if anyone else has an opinion feel free to throw them in.
post #4068 of 5316
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Originally Posted by ShadowJ20 View Post

Don't know the exact size but it's not very big (it's a bed room). What are the advantages of a floor standing speaker vs book shelf for home theater use?

Potential for a good 80 Hz crossover and built-in speaker stands.
post #4069 of 5316
You know these are fantastic when sir Dennis Murphy chimes in biggrin.gif

I will be placing the FS52's in the front, 2 books for side surrounds and matching back surrounds soon. I love the enclosures! No center, phantom since mains are 60" apart. Feeding these with Yamaha juice and YPAO should sound nice. I need to buy Mr. Jones a Starbucks!!!


Brian in Bakersfield...
post #4070 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Same as any other use. More output, bigger soundstage, better bass. This is for your case. Not necessarily true for a cheap tower vs a really nice bookshelf.

I don't think this is exactly true. Larger speaker enclosures are often needed to reproduce lower -- power hungry -- frequencies which in compromise makes a less efficient speaker needing more amplification power. You might be able to obtain a fuller soundstage as opposed to a bigger soundstage, which can be a addressed with positioning of the speakers. Often any advantage of floor standing speakers is blurred with the proper subwoofer(s) integration. You could also potentially get better bass, but it's likely that the speaker placed for good imaging will be in a poor position for the lower frequencies -- which like to be reinforced near a boundry -- and again, the compromise will be a speaker struggling to reproduce bass in addition to the higher frequencies. In this case a good bookshelf/sub system would be better. This might be moot if you were to compare against a Set-up with towers and subs with a crossover ~80 Hz.
post #4071 of 5316
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Originally Posted by BGLeduc View Post

I think the OP is talking about sibilance, not hiss.

Brian

Yes, sibilance. It's too bad if break in can't fix. I like everything else about these but this is a deal breaker. I think I'll return today
post #4072 of 5316
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

I don't think this is exactly true. Larger speaker enclosures are often needed to reproduce lower -- power hungry -- frequencies which in compromise makes a less efficient speaker needing more amplification power. You might be able to obtain a fuller soundstage as opposed to a bigger soundstage, which can be a addressed with positioning of the speakers. Often any advantage of floor standing speakers is blurred with the proper subwoofer(s) integration. You could also potentially get better bass, but it's likely that the speaker placed for good imaging will be in a poor position for the lower frequencies -- which like to be reinforced near a boundry -- and again, the compromise will be a speaker struggling to reproduce bass in addition to the higher frequencies. In this case a good bookshelf/sub system would be better. This might be moot if you were to compare against a Set-up with towers and subs with a crossover ~80 Hz.
I took the question as the advantages of using 2 fs52s for the front vs using 4 bs22 all the way around. That was his original question. That was why I gave the answer I did. And if you throw a subwoofer into the equation then that changes everything. But that is not what he asked. Thats why I even pointed out in my answer that it was specifically for the speakers in question and may not apply when comparing all bookshelf speakers to floorstanding speakers.
post #4073 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I took the question as the advantages of using 2 fs52s for the front vs using 4 bs22 all the way around. .

Sorry I should clarify.

Would it be better that I have 2 fs52s in the front, C22 center and 2 bs22's in the back plus a subwoofer

or

bs22's all around, C22 center plus subwoofer?

I'm going for a 5.1 setup.
Edited by ShadowJ20 - 4/23/13 at 10:23am
post #4074 of 5316
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Originally Posted by ShadowJ20 View Post

Sorry I should clarify. Would it be better that I have 2 fs52s in the front, C22 center and 2 bs22's in the back plus a subwoofer or bs22's all around, C22 center with a subwoofer?
The first one for sure. Get the fs52s.
post #4075 of 5316
Quick question guys, would a pair of FS52's be good for surrounds?
post #4076 of 5316
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Originally Posted by HTSpecialist View Post

Quick question guys, would a pair of FS52's be good for surrounds?
Kinda depends on your other speakers but yes they would be fine for surrounds.
post #4077 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Kinda depends on your other speakers but yes they would be fine for surrounds.
I currently have DCM KX12's as surrounds and FS52's for fronts but I was wondering if it was a good idea to swap them.
post #4078 of 5316
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Originally Posted by HTSpecialist View Post

I currently have DCM KX12's as surrounds and FS52's for fronts but I was wondering if it was a good idea to swap them.
Dont,know what those are. Can you provide a link?
post #4079 of 5316
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Dont,know what those are. Can you provide a link?
Well, they're a 2001 model and have been discontinued for quite a while now but they are 12" three-way towers.
post #4080 of 5316
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Originally Posted by HTSpecialist View Post

Well, they're a 2001 model and have been discontinued for quite a while now but they are 12" three-way towers.
I suppose if youre using them with the Pioneers now anyway then they are compatible. Its hard to give any advice if I dont have any specs on the speakers. Switch them out and see how it sounds. Why are you thinking about switching? Do you have a sub?
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