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post #4591 of 5313
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Are you saying that the Monitor 70 is a newer model than the Monitor 70ii?

I'm sorry my bad. The Monitor 75T are the new monitors, which usually go for sale at $179.99. The Monitor 70 II are the previous model, which were going on sale for $149.99.biggrin.gif
post #4592 of 5313
I'm loving my 4 BS22's and C22 in a 5.1 setup. My new Aventage 830 is diggin it too with its YPAO not needing to do much to smooth the response. Out if the box they sound great and will continue to re-run ypao as they break in. Pretty crazy how everything changes when all locations are tonally matched. Whole different listening experience. Thanks Mr. Jones!!! Drinks on me!!!
post #4593 of 5313
Does anyone with these Andrew Jones designs have any direct comparison knowledge between them and the BIC DV line?
post #4594 of 5313
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Originally Posted by Hspecialist View Post

I'm loving my 4 BS22's and C22 in a 5.1 setup...

...Pretty crazy how everything changes when all locations are tonally matched. Whole different listening experience. Thanks Mr. Jones!!! Drinks on me!!!

I've always felt that matching speakers in a surround setup creates the most convincing and coherent soundfield, and I'm glad you mentioned it. Too many people mix and match, thinking that the rear speakers need not match as they're not carrying much of the load. At the very least, build your surround system from speaker from the same brand, with drivers in common.

Keep everything in the same family.
post #4595 of 5313
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Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

I've always felt that matching speakers in a surround setup creates the most convincing and coherent soundfield, and I'm glad you mentioned it. Too many people mix and match, thinking that the rear speakers need not match as they're not carrying much of the load. At the very least, build your surround system from speaker from the same brand, with drivers in common.

Keep everything in the same family.

When price is a factor, mix and match yields the better result as long as you keep your front LCR matching. You'll have greater results putting more $$$ towards your front. Now, if you match those with some subpar speakers, then you'll definitively won't have good surround. But as long as you mix and match with a good balance, you are better this way.
post #4596 of 5313
Price wasn't a factor so the yield came from the same engineered crossovers, drivers, and engineered enclosures. My opinion is this, I want to benefit from Mr. Jones ability to match and engineer same quality deliverance. For me, the greatest benefit.
post #4597 of 5313
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Originally Posted by Hspecialist View Post

Price wasn't a factor so the yield came from the same engineered crossovers, drivers, and engineered enclosures. My opinion is this, I want to benefit from Mr. Jones ability to match and engineer same quality deliverance. For me, the greatest benefit.

That's a nice sale pitch. wink.gif
post #4598 of 5313
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Originally Posted by Hspecialist View Post

Price wasn't a factor so the yield came from the same engineered crossovers, drivers, and engineered enclosures. My opinion is this, I want to benefit from Mr. Jones ability to match and engineer same quality deliverance. For me, the greatest benefit.

Then you should have purchased the FS52 for the fronts, since price wasn't a factor tongue.gif . That was Mr. Jones intended 5.1 system.


Good speakers nonetheless
post #4599 of 5313
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Originally Posted by hdnewbie21 View Post

Then, you should have purchased the FS52 for the fronts, since price wasn't a factor tongue.gif . That was Mr. Jones intended 5.1 system.
Good point.
post #4600 of 5313
I dig the towers and may get them. I scored some really nice Sanus stands and I loved the sound of the books. I may move them to back surround duties and go with the towers. Or, maybe another set of the 22's for complete 7 channel. I do very much like the look on a set of quality stands. The side surrounds sit pretty on some stands I spent about $400 on. The 22's sound box less and big and staging of course being excellent.
post #4601 of 5313
Fry's has last year's Pioneer FS-51 towers for $137 pair. In today's ad.
http://www.frys.com/product/7867819?site=sa:adpages%20page:P2_FRI%20date:101113
post #4602 of 5313
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Fry's has last year's Pioneer FS-51 towers for $137 pair. In today's ad.
http://www.frys.com/product/7867819?site=sa:adpages%20page:P2_FRI%20date:101113

That's a good deal correct?
post #4603 of 5313
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Originally Posted by nyrmetros View Post

That's a good deal correct?

At under $70 each that's a buy-ten-for-your-eventual-9.2-system-plus-a-spare deal (or twelve for you 11.4, or...). Get these instead of the bookshelf speakers given the price and performance compared to a bookshelf plus stand plus dings from when you knock them over.

The only reason to not buy would be because you're waiting for another deal on the SP-FS52.

Be mindful that eventually these first generation speakers will sell out, though it seems like there are still plenty in the warehouses after production stopped. I suspect these deals are actual clearance sales. Consider getting a pair for stereo duty until they are needed for replacement or expansion. That's what I did.

When comparing to any other speaker, consider that every dollar saved goes toward the quality subwoofer(s) which will make the whole system sound so much better than the alternative.
post #4604 of 5313
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Originally Posted by nyrmetros View Post

That's a good deal correct?
About as good as it gets.
post #4605 of 5313
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Fry's has last year's Pioneer FS-51 towers for $137 pair. In today's ad.
http://www.frys.com/product/7867819?site=sa:adpages%20page:P2_FRI%20date:101113

That's an okay deal. The FS52 usually go on sale for $77 each.
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post #4607 of 5313
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

That's an okay deal. The FS52 usually go on sale for $77 each.
Thats $68.50 a piece for the 51s. Have you seen them cheaper?
post #4608 of 5313
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Thats $68.50 a piece for the 51s. Have you seen them cheaper?

Best buy had them going for $49.99 each, but that's when they went discontinued. I mean they are an okay deal compare to the FS52 when they go for $77 each. However, they FS52 haven't been on sale for a while so the FS51 at the moment are a better deal.
post #4609 of 5313
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Thats $68.50 a piece for the 51s. Have you seen them cheaper?

A quick search of the thread shows that NewEgg has previously discounted them to $60 each ($119.99 per pair). It has been a while since the last NewEgg sale of these speakers and that used to be a frequent occurrence, though they still have some available for $199.99 which means they might go on sale again and might be cheaper.
post #4610 of 5313
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

That's an okay deal. The FS52 usually go on sale for $77 each.

When I'd the last time that happened? That is what I am truly waiting for.
post #4611 of 5313
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Originally Posted by nyrmetros View Post

When I'd the last time that happened? That is what I am truly waiting for.

I am not really sure when it last happened, but usually Fry's electronics will have them on sale several times a year for $77 per tower, and $77 for pair of BS22.
post #4612 of 5313
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Originally Posted by nyrmetros View Post


When I'd the last time that happened? That is what I am truly waiting for.

 

Same here, if i can resist the urge to just go buy them at full price >.<

post #4613 of 5313
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I am not really sure when it last happened, but usually Fry's electronics will have them on sale several times a year for $77 per tower, and $77 for pair of BS22.
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post


Is that pickup only because I would have to fly to get to a Fry's. Lol
I am not really sure when it last happened, but usually Fry's electronics will have them on sale several times a year for $77 per tower, and $77 for pair of BS22.
post #4614 of 5313
I would like to see andrew jones create a 40 inch tall version of this speaker using the same design layout however with a triple 6.5 inch woofer instead of the 5.25 woofer's we would get better bass and the tweeter level would be even higher (which would be great for us tall guys). If he could do this and keep the price around around $400 msrp, I know those would prolly be able to keep with a lot of much more expensive speakers.
post #4615 of 5313
Everyone, practically, has subwoofers, so more bass is probably not high on his priority list. However better efficiency would probably be a nice achievement. cool.gif
post #4616 of 5313
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Originally Posted by DaveCarrera4 View Post

Everyone, practically, has subwoofers, so more bass is probably not high on his priority list.

Or at least should have a subwoofer for HT usage. Seems like home theater is a big target market for the towers.
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Originally Posted by DaveCarrera4 View Post

However better efficiency would probably be a nice achievement. cool.gif

No doubt. 90db or better would be nice smile.gif
post #4617 of 5313
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Originally Posted by DaveCarrera4 View Post

Everyone, practically, has subwoofers, so more bass is probably not high on his priority list. However better efficiency would probably be a nice achievement. cool.gif

I'm also looking for a bigger sound stage and better dynamics, which a bigger speaker will offer.............
post #4618 of 5313
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Originally Posted by DaveCarrera4 View Post

Everyone, practically, has subwoofers, so more bass is probably not high on his priority list. However better efficiency would probably be a nice achievement. cool.gif
+1
post #4619 of 5313
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Originally Posted by The Murderousone View Post

I'm also looking for a bigger sound stage and better dynamics, which a bigger speaker will offer.............
Or a better speaker.
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