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post #391 of 1236
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

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Ok - hard to understand the problem. You have 3 devices attached to your VSX32, then the output from the VSX32 to your TV.

1. It is working with your BD player which is selectable as BD or HDMI1?

2. You want the other HDMI connections to work the same way.

3. They are not doing so.

The HDMI connections are selectable from the remote. They need to be explicitly selected, will not automatically be detected and routed.

So if you have HDMI2 connected to your Atlanta box, and HDMI3 to your XBox, you need to select those explicitly before you can see their signal on the screen and hear the sound from the receiver.

You can also tie other funtions like TV/Sat to an HDMI input so it goes to that. If you want to tie HDMI2 to TV/Sat, you can do that so when you press the TV/Sat button, it selects the correct input. You might want to read the manual on HDMI inputs.

Hope that helped.

I had everything into the VSX. Xbox, Cable box, and BD dvd player. I had the OUT of the VSX to the TV's ARC HDMI (HDMI 2). So I left the TV on HDMI 2 and could use the VSX to change HDMI ports. Worked fine like that.

Problem is I don't want the receiver on all the time when watching tv or playing xbox.

I noticed when I hooked up the BD player to the BD HDMI port I could turn it on, a small light comes on the receiver but the reciver stays off. It just passes the HDMI signal. I'm assuming that's the pass through at work. My other devices when doing the same thing won't pass through like that. No matter what I try the Xbox & the cable box won't activate that little blue light and come on.

Right now I have everything directly to the TV bypassing the receiver and if I tell the TV to turn on via the CEC/Aynet gizmo it comes on and mutes my TV, while allowing the surround sound to kick on. I know the CEC is working for the TV to receiver and for the BD player, but I don't think my cable box/xbox is CEC compliant.

I think I was hoping it was smart enough to sense what signal was coming in and route it. I don't think it'll do that. It seems to do it for the DVD player for the pass through though. Right now it's on TV but if I turned on the DVD player it goes strait to BD on the menu.

I got it working from all sources, just not as clean as I wanted to because I was under the assumption I could hook it all up to it (which you can) and just switch sources but I didn't want the surround sound on all the time while watching regular TV or playing games.
post #392 of 1236
I was wondering if anyone knows exactly how to adjust Speaker B volume cokmpared to A. The Speaker Level menu does not show anything for Speaker B.

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post #393 of 1236
^^^

you can't...

by definition, speaker "b" gets what speaker "a" gets...
post #394 of 1236
Is the only different between 1120 and 33 are only cosmetic, second HDMI output and warranty. So it is not going to sound better than 1120 just looks better and have longer warranty, right? thanks
post #395 of 1236
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

^ ^ ^ ^

Ok - hard to understand the problem. You have 3 devices attached to your VSX32, then the output from the VSX32 to your TV.

1. It is working with your BD player which is selectable as BD or HDMI1?

2. You want the other HDMI connections to work the same way.

3. They are not doing so.

The HDMI connections are selectable from the remote. They need to be explicitly selected, will not automatically be detected and routed.

So if you have HDMI2 connected to your Atlanta box, and HDMI3 to your XBox, you need to select those explicitly before you can see their signal on the screen and hear the sound from the receiver.

You can also tie other funtions like TV/Sat to an HDMI input so it goes to that. If you want to tie HDMI2 to TV/Sat, you can do that so when you press the TV/Sat button, it selects the correct input. You might want to read the manual on HDMI inputs.

Hope that helped.

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Originally Posted by spunger1 View Post

I had everything into the VSX. Xbox, Cable box, and BD dvd player. I had the OUT of the VSX to the TV's ARC HDMI (HDMI 2). So I left the TV on HDMI 2 and could use the VSX to change HDMI ports. Worked fine like that.

Problem is I don't want the receiver on all the time when watching tv or playing xbox.

I noticed when I hooked up the BD player to the BD HDMI port I could turn it on, a small light comes on the receiver but the reciver stays off. It just passes the HDMI signal. I'm assuming that's the pass through at work. My other devices when doing the same thing won't pass through like that. No matter what I try the Xbox & the cable box won't activate that little blue light and come on.

Right now I have everything directly to the TV bypassing the receiver and if I tell the TV to turn on via the CEC/Aynet gizmo it comes on and mutes my TV, while allowing the surround sound to kick on. I know the CEC is working for the TV to receiver and for the BD player, but I don't think my cable box/xbox is CEC compliant.

I think I was hoping it was smart enough to sense what signal was coming in and route it. I don't think it'll do that. It seems to do it for the DVD player for the pass through though. Right now it's on TV but if I turned on the DVD player it goes strait to BD on the menu.

I got it working from all sources, just not as clean as I wanted to because I was under the assumption I could hook it all up to it (which you can) and just switch sources but I didn't want the surround sound on all the time while watching regular TV or playing games.

I was thinking about hooking up my PS3 and Dish Network box to my VSX-33, but I guess not after reading this post. I do use both items on occasion for surround sound, but not all the time. I was hoping the pass through would work with all the HDMI inputs. I love my Pioneer, but they screwed up by not including this feature on all HDMI ports. Fortunately like you, I have enough HDMI ports on my TV to compensate for this.
post #396 of 1236
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Originally Posted by DRC72 View Post

I was thinking about hooking up my PS3 and Dish Network box to my VSX-33, but I guess not after reading this post. I do use both items on occasion for surround sound, but not all the time. I was hoping the pass through would work with all the HDMI inputs. I love my Pioneer, but they screwed up by not including this feature on all HDMI ports. Fortunately like you, I have enough HDMI ports on my TV to compensate for this.

Pass through is available on all ports but only when all components have HDMI-CEC.
post #397 of 1236
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Originally Posted by budwha View Post
I have my receiver wired to my E3000 Linksys router and use the web UI often as a remote control. BUT....the ip address of the receiver keeps changing on me. Networking is definitely not my strong point. I have DHCP turned on in the settings....if this is wrong and it requires me set up manually......the instructions in the user manual baffle me....could someone help symplify this for me?
Can anyone help me on this?
post #398 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Larok View Post
Is the only different between 1120 and 33 are only cosmetic, second HDMI output and warranty. So it is not going to sound better than 1120 just looks better and have longer warranty, right? thanks
More or less, yes. I think there are a couple other changes, but the audio quality will be the same. Considering you can get a VSX-1120 for $100's less, I would recommend you just get the 1120. The only other differences between the two that I can think of is an aluminum front panel instead of plastic, and zone 3 pre outputs.
post #399 of 1236
thanks, i didnt know, some are saying it has a better amp in it. but there both rated at 110x7
post #400 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Larok View Post

Is the only different between 1120 and 33 are only cosmetic, second HDMI output and warranty. So it is not going to sound better than 1120 just looks better and have longer warranty, right? thanks

I would like to know the answer to this question as well.
I had a 1120, but then I returned it due to a lack of OSD volume display. (And there was the ultra sensitive MCACC which swears I got my polarity reversed.)
I replaced the 1120 with a Yamaha 867 but then it had a faulty network connection, and sending it to repairs would require driving to 50miles away and would take a week to see it again. Besides I don't like it's lack of auto-surround.

I just saw a VSX-32 at Bestbuy and I was thinking about getting it.
Does the VSX-32 display OSD information over HDMI? (So there is a bright shiny bar on the TV when you press the volume buttons or would like to know the stream bitrate?)

The VSX-33 is also available, but for $300 more I would like to know if it's worth it.
post #401 of 1236
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Originally Posted by budwha View Post

Can anyone help me on this?

Have you ever considered reserving the IP in your router setup?
I am sure the function should be there for a midrange Linksys router.
(Hint: Look for something called DHCP Reservation or IP Reservation)
Another possibility is adding the receiver to DMZ.
That would make a difference if it is being blocked by the router's built-in security/firewall functions.
post #402 of 1236
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Originally Posted by carageuw View Post

(And there was the ultra sensitive MCACC which swears I got my polarity reversed.)

As for the Polarity Reversal thing, my auto MCACC setups ALWAYS report the Polarity to be wrong. Thing is, if you confirm the Polarity is physically correct, then even the manual tells you to move on and disregard the "Wrong Polarity" messages.

That MCACC system is just trying to help folks verify the wiring is right, but due to reflections of sound in many rooms, it will "think" it important enough to report it as a possible problem.

Perhaps they should have switched "Wrong Polarity" for "Confirm Polarity" or something more simple. The RTFM bit is not clear LOL

I am glad to have gotten the VSX-33 for the extra options I may use someday. You can do a compare of the VSX-32 and VSX-33 features on the Pioneer Web site. I cannot figure out how to do the same compare of the VSX-1120 and VSX-33 features though as they are split into two pages -- Pioneer Receivers and Pioneer ELITE Receivers.

You could print the pages out, and compare that way.
post #403 of 1236
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Originally Posted by darkdune View Post

I cannot figure out how to do the same compare of the VSX-1120 and VSX-33 features though as they are split into two pages -- Pioneer Receivers and Pioneer ELITE Receivers.

You could print the pages out, and compare that way.

Or you could have 2 windows/tabs loaded....
post #404 of 1236
i have done that , and there is nothing diff that i can see, but the way i understand is that the 32 is really just the 1120 with a elite tag on it, but the 33 is the first true elite, made with better parts inside, there mit be a few more feature and options for hook ups, like like the 32 has 2 zone and the 33 has 3, .32 has 1 hdmi out and 33 has 2 hdmi out, would like to have that stuff for later, but right now i dont care about that stuff. But i would spend $300 more if i was getting a better quality inside. Because you know how it is these day. company's are using cheaper part on the inside to bring the cost down per unit
post #405 of 1236
^^^

the difference between the 32 and the 33 is "more features" not "better stuff inside"... it's essentially the "same stuff" inside...

to get "better stuff inside", you need to go to the sc series, which gets you the ice amplification section...
post #406 of 1236
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Originally Posted by carageuw View Post

Have you ever considered reserving the IP in your router setup?
I am sure the function should be there for a midrange Linksys router.
(Hint: Look for something called DHCP Reservation or IP Reservation)
Another possibility is adding the receiver to DMZ.
That would make a difference if it is being blocked by the router's built-in security/firewall functions.

Thanks carageuw....I think I found the "ip reservation". It will take me a few days to see if it works...I don't use it everyday and its sporadic
post #407 of 1236
Could anyone tell me if the VSX-32 will display volume and format info via HDMI OSD onto the TV when I adjust the volume via the remote??
Do I need a separate Y-video cable for that function??
post #408 of 1236
For anyone interested in purchasing a Pio receiver, Audioholics is having a nice sale and offers a FREE 3yr extended warranty!...

I just purchased the VSX-32 from them...
post #409 of 1236
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Originally Posted by spunger1 View Post

I had everything into the VSX. Xbox, Cable box, and BD dvd player. I had the OUT of the VSX to the TV's ARC HDMI (HDMI 2). So I left the TV on HDMI 2 and could use the VSX to change HDMI ports. Worked fine like that.

Problem is I don't want the receiver on all the time when watching tv or playing xbox.

I noticed when I hooked up the BD player to the BD HDMI port I could turn it on, a small light comes on the receiver but the reciver stays off. It just passes the HDMI signal. I'm assuming that's the pass through at work. My other devices when doing the same thing won't pass through like that. No matter what I try the Xbox & the cable box won't activate that little blue light and come on.

Right now I have everything directly to the TV bypassing the receiver and if I tell the TV to turn on via the CEC/Aynet gizmo it comes on and mutes my TV, while allowing the surround sound to kick on. I know the CEC is working for the TV to receiver and for the BD player, but I don't think my cable box/xbox is CEC compliant.

I think I was hoping it was smart enough to sense what signal was coming in and route it. I don't think it'll do that. It seems to do it for the DVD player for the pass through though. Right now it's on TV but if I turned on the DVD player it goes strait to BD on the menu.

I got it working from all sources, just not as clean as I wanted to because I was under the assumption I could hook it all up to it (which you can) and just switch sources but I didn't want the surround sound on all the time while watching regular TV or playing games.

That's the problem with HDMI CEC. The implementations differ, so there is no guarantee that components will work together. I don't use it, but I do see why if you want the pass through functionality.
post #410 of 1236
Hi all,

I've done some searching on this forum for issues related to the Motorola DCX3400 HD DVR box not handshaking well when connected through an A/V receiver and losing the format settings for resolution and screen display.

I'm currently experiencing this issue on my VSX-32.

My setup: DCX3400 >> VSX-32 >> HDMI output to my Sony KV-60A2020.

When I switch between activities on the receiver, such as FM Radio, Blu Ray, etc, then back to TV, the DCX3400 will not hold the resolution setting, it reverts back to 480p and 4:3L. I have to enter into the DCX3400's menu and manually reset to 16:9 and 1080i outputs.

Anyone on this thread have a similar setup who may have found a band aid or work around for this?

My solution right now is to connect the DCX3400 directly to the TV through HDMI and then output audio via TOSLINK to the VSX-32.

Thanks!
post #411 of 1236
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Originally Posted by darkdune View Post

I cannot figure out how to do the same compare of the VSX-1120 and VSX-33 features though as they are split into two pages -- Pioneer Receivers and Pioneer ELITE Receivers.

You could print the pages out, and compare that way.

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Originally Posted by SIMJEDI View Post

Or you could have 2 windows/tabs loaded....

Ha ha!

LOL
post #412 of 1236
can the 32 handle 4ohm speaker untill my new 8ohm ones come in.
post #413 of 1236
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Originally Posted by SuperActionGuy
Hi all,

I've done some searching on this forum for issues related to the Motorola DCX3400 HD DVR box not handshaking well when connected through an A/V receiver and losing the format settings for resolution and screen display.

I'm currently experiencing this issue on my VSX-32.

My setup: DCX3400 >> VSX-32 >> HDMI output to my Sony KV-60A2020.

When I switch between activities on the receiver, such as FM Radio, Blu Ray, etc, then back to TV, the DCX3400 will not hold the resolution setting, it reverts back to 480p and 4:3L. I have to enter into the DCX3400's menu and manually reset to 16:9 and 1080i outputs.

Anyone on this thread have a similar setup who may have found a band aid or work around for this?

My solution right now is to connect the DCX3400 directly to the TV through HDMI and then output audio via TOSLINK to the VSX-32.

Thanks!
So does the DSX3400 keep it's resolution setting when directly connected to your TV?
post #414 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Larok View Post
can the 32 handle 4ohm speaker untill my new 8ohm ones come in.
Might not be a good idea. 8 ohm, and 6 ohm are the standards supported.
post #415 of 1236
woot well just got my vsx-32 hooked up, but cant get the video to show up on the wii,. well i have ps3 in hdmi 1, dishtv in hdmi 2 and the wii in dvd. well when i go to dvd i hear audio and screen goes blue for a few sec, then it switch back to the one i was on. any help thanks
post #416 of 1236
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Originally Posted by Larok View Post

woot well just got my vsx-32 hooked up, but cant get the video to show up on the wii,. well i have ps3 in hdmi 1, dishtv in hdmi 2 and the wii in dvd. well when i go to dvd i hear audio and screen goes blue for a few sec, then it switch back to the one i was on. any help thanks

any help im pulling out hair, ive changed input setting, put in all diff plugs, turned off video cov. tks and also to me even with video cov. off i think the picture does not look as good as when i had cable and ps3 input to the tv. any help. thanks im so happy to have the vsx 32 but grr. but i will say something i have crap speakers and it sounds great, cant wait to see what it sounds like when i get my real speakers tks again
post #417 of 1236
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Originally Posted by DRC72 View Post

So does the DSX3400 keep it's resolution setting when directly connected to your TV?

Yes, connected directly to the TV it keeps a lock at 1080i, 16:9.

That's how I'm using it for now.
post #418 of 1236
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Originally Posted by SuperActionGuy View Post

Yes, connected directly to the TV it keeps a lock at 1080i, 16:9.

That's how I'm using it for now.

Update:

I turned off V-Conv in the Video Parameters Menu for HDMI 1, which is what my cable box is connected to.

I switched back and forth between various inputs and this seems to have solved the "lock" issue for now.

I'll keep trying this for a day and see if it holds.
post #419 of 1236
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Originally Posted by SuperActionGuy View Post
Update:

I turned off V-Conv in the Video Parameters Menu for HDMI 1, which is what my cable box is connected to.

I switched back and forth between various inputs and this seems to have solved the "lock" issue for now.

I'll keep trying this for a day and see if it holds.
Interesting.

You can specify the resolution you want V-Conv to output. It can be Auto on any specific resolution.

In our case, I really only use V-Conv for PS3 games that output native 720p. I set the V-Conv to upconvert it to 1080p, with a little Brightness and Detail added for good measure. Works great for PS3 games.

For Blu-ray and DVDs, I turn off the V-Conv as for some reason it make the image darker, and doesn't give me an option to up the Black Level for them.
post #420 of 1236
Does anyone know that the output of the command ?RGC means? I get a response of RGC1100011001 every time. It isn't listed anywhere in the RS232C pdf file, but the iPhone app and the web interface both use it. I did find a reference to it in the web interface JS file. It's located at http:///js/common.js . I've tried to figure out what they are doing with the returned data, but JS isn't my thing, so I can't figure it out. Quite honestly, I don't like how they wrote that. There are no comments at all and most of their variables are single letters.

The reason I'm wondering is because I'm working on a python program that interfaces with the receiver on TCP port 23 and sends commands, reads responses and serves up a webpage that will allow you to see the status of the receiver and have full control of it. Right now I'm finishing up the Python part of it. I still need to write the code to parse a few of the longer status messages, like ?L which has a possible 144 different states it can return. It's just a matter of typing in all 144 states that's a PITA. The actual parsing is trivial. After that I need to do a little restructuring and cleaning up of the code and then I'll move onto finishing the webpage. I know it seems pretty pointless to do, since the receiver has it's own builtin control page, but that one is ugly and sucks. I want something that I can have full control of the receiver with decent looking ui and a mobile/tablet interface.

I already have a basic webpage created that makes calls to the python program and gets JSON data back. It shows the status of the current volume and input and allows you to change both. The only problem is that I suck at HTML, CSS, and JS. The only other HTML I've ever done before this was very basic pages with just tables. JS and CSS are new to me, so it's a bit of a learning curve. If anyone is curious, this is what it looks like so far. Everything is kind of just placed randomly on the page, but it's functional. Ignore the three buttons that say HDMI1, they are just place holders.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6430/vsx32.png
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