The Offical Epson 8350 Owners Thread - Page 5

Originally Posted by foofoobar

Apologies if someone already posted this, but here's a rave review of the PJ with an Editor's choice award to boot. Apparently, it's bound give the AE4000 a lot to think about:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor_review.htm

Originally Posted by Shag

I was hoping that this would show up on Amazon for Prime and Amazon's return policy, but no such luck yet. I'm getting impatient, so may just pull the trigger here soon. Having never purchased a PJ, is there a preference on Projector People vs Visual Apex?

For those buying the Chief mount, is the RPA-U the same as the RPA 168 mentioned by MM? I have nearly 9' ceilings, so I'm not sure I'd really care about a low profile mount - given that, is the Chief still the best option? Do people typically pair a white mount with a white PJ (interior design is not my strength, lol)?

Originally Posted by foofoobar

Apologies if someone already posted this, but here's a rave review of the PJ with an Editor's choice award to boot. Apparently, it's bound give the AE4000 a lot to think about:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor_review.htm

Originally Posted by MississippiMan

No Vao....

It has a feature that makes it work well "With the addition of" an anamorphic lens.

sorry......

Originally Posted by foofoobar

Apologies if someone already posted this, but here's a rave review of the PJ with an Editor's choice award to boot. Apparently, it's bound give the AE4000 a lot to think about:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor_review.htm

Originally Posted by Shag

I was hoping that this would show up on Amazon for Prime and Amazon's return policy, but no such luck yet. I'm getting impatient, so may just pull the trigger here soon. Having never purchased a PJ, is there a preference on Projector People vs Visual Apex?

For those buying the Chief mount, is the RPA-U the same as the RPA 168 mentioned by MM? I have nearly 9' ceilings, so I'm not sure I'd really care about a low profile mount - given that, is the Chief still the best option? Do people typically pair a white mount with a white PJ (interior design is not my strength, lol)?

Originally Posted by thespacecowboy

i've not done business with them. But my strong preference is to go with vendors I either know and trust, or one that many many ppl know and trust.

i bought my 5D Mk ii and could have saved $100 buying it from some smaller unknown NY company. But I went with a name I trusted, even though it cost me a little more.

Originally Posted by mellamojosh

Agreed. Proj People has always done me right and been very helpful along the way...not to say that the $1165 isn't still a little tempting

Originally Posted by vegashomes

Does the lens shift allow for positioning above the top of the screen?

Originally Posted by sajandrew

Okay, I want to get some advice before I pull the trigger on the 8350...

I currently have an AE900 throwing a 106" into a screen 16' away. The room is a dedicated theater room, 100% light controlled, with all of the walls near the screen painted flat black. My Panny has about 1500 hours on the bulb, and the picture seems dim to me. I was contemplating a new bulb, or a new projector.

Is it safe to assume, with the Epson having almost twice the lumens as my Panny, that it will look much brighter than my Panny with a new bulb? Is 16' too far of a throw? I know it will throw a 100" image like 20', but would I be better off moving the unit closer to the screen? I could do it, but it wouldn't be easy. It's ceilin mounted over the second row of seating. I did it that way so that you would never see it in your peripheral vision while watching a movie. If the Epson will be plenty bright from that distance, then I'd rather leave it there.

I have a feeling the picture difference will be pretty dramatic between the Epaon and the Panny, I just want to make sure I am thinking about this correctly before I actually pull the trigger.

I am also using a Dalite HCCV screen, it was paired with the Panny when I bought it all from Projector People...I assume it will still be a decent match for the Epson? From what I remember, it was sort of a neutral screen choice.

Thanks,
Andy

Originally Posted by davyo

At 16' you will be fine with the 8350, I had my 8100 ceiling mounted at 13' from my 110" screen and it was plenty bright,, (I returned my 8100 last week to get the 8350), have not ordered the 8350 yet.

As far as your AE900,,, yes, the 8350 will be a big jump in PQ over the AE900.
I had an AE900 (and all the AE's before that) I also had the AX100 and AX200 and those were very big jumps in PQ over my AE900,,,,, going from an AE900 to an Epson 8350 will be a huge jump in PQ,,, and brightness as well.

Cheers
Davyo

Originally Posted by mellamojosh

Has anyone with an 8350 in hand checked their lumens??? I'm really curious about the PC review that only measured 1500 in dynamic mode.

Unfortunately I need each and every lumen in the new house.

Originally Posted by sb1

Those lumen measurements (with watchable colors) are pretty high. What type of screen are you planning on using? At this price I don't think you're going to find anything in the 1080p category that's much brighter while still maintaining "decent" color balance. Maybe a couple of DLP's, but they won't have anywhere near the placement flexibility of the 8350.

1500 lumens thrown from a projector mounted near eye level on to a High Power screen will have you screaming "save my retinas!" in a semi-dark room.

Originally Posted by MississippiMan

I've had a little bit of experience.

The 8350 has over 45,000 x higher Dynamic contrast. And it's rated as being brighter than the AX100u, a PJ I've dealt with many times in the past. While any ambient light will reduce the depth of blacks and the robustness of deep colors, if you start out way above your current contrast levels, obviously the reduction you'll get with ambient light will seem less than in your current situation using a PJ with such a significantly less ability to deliver appreciable Black levels.

If you continue to shoot onto a white wall in ambient light, even the 8350's performance will be less than it could / should be, but a far greater measure of "Mo Bedder" than the AX100u could ever have mustered.

You need at minimum a light Gray surface...preferably a slightly reflective one. If you cannot "go there" because you must continue using a White Wall, then work instead on trying to mitigate or reduce any ambient light that is specifically directed ONTO the screen. It does not take much reduction of such to amount to a significant improvement.

Originally Posted by sb1

Those lumen measurements (with watchable colors) are pretty high. What type of screen are you planning on using? At this price I don't think you're going to find anything in the 1080p category that's much brighter while still maintaining "decent" color balance. Maybe a couple of DLP's, but they won't have anywhere near the placement flexibility of the 8350.

1500 lumens thrown from a projector mounted near eye level on to a High Power screen will have you screaming "save my retinas!" in a semi-dark room.

Originally Posted by mellamojosh

Glad you asked

I have a black widow screen painted on drywall (16:9, about 140" wide, but I don't usually use the entire 140". The color of the rest of the wall is a blueish-grey. You have to look hard to notice the black widow screen. There is no black border between the two. I know that's not ideal, but it's the comprimise I made with the wife . The PJ is placed 20' from the screen, at eye level. I cut a hole under a staircase and built a cabinet for the PJ and AV equipment. I then ran the audio cables under the house, then up the walls, and finished the holes off with plates which accept banana plugs (5.1 surround).

There are two windows to the left of the PJ. They are covered with translucent window coverings. There is a 8' opening to the right which opens to the kitchen and allows some ambient light, as well.

I've been using my Panny 900, with 2000 hours on it. The bulb has gotten pretty dim. Due to the setup none of the DLP PJ's will work (ceiling mount isn't possible).

I get that 1500 lumens is a big improvement to my old Panny. However, I'm assuming Panasonic will be coming out with their answer to the 8350 in just a few weeks. I was literally pulling the trigger on the 8350 when I read PC's review of the 8350.

If Panny has a comparable model with a sincere 2000 lumens that may make my decision a much more difficult one. SO...if someone out there has the 8350 and is actually getting closer to 2000 lumens I'd LOVE to know so I can just grab my 8350 and start enjoying it!

Originally Posted by sb1

I'm not happy with dark scenes at all anymore.