The Offical Epson 8350 Owners Thread - Page 126

Originally Posted by hordeall

about to pull the trigger on the 8350...

I need help deciding on mount and screen color.

Its for a finished basement which would be mainly used for movie watching and watching tv usually without much light (can be bairly any if not zero if wanted).

The ceilings are 10 feet high and white.
Walls Beige.
Throw is 14 feet if wall mounted.
Throw 12 feet at best if ceiling mounted (due to lower ceiling beyond that for conceiled duct which I dont think could be mounted to)

I wanted to keep the budget down on the screen.
I can get a Elite Ezframe White 1.1 gain 100" screen for around $250 and wondered if I should go with this or get a grey colored/different brand screen if this isnt that great of a choice.

Also, would it be best to wall mount or ceiling mount the projector in my situation?

And if ceiling mount is the best option what is a good cost efficient ceiling mount for this projector?

Originally Posted by shadowlight

First time projector user and would like to get some guidance on projector placement option. My room will be 30' long, 12' 6" wide and ~ 6' 10" tall. Thinking about doing 135" diagonal 2.35 screen using Seymour AV AT DIY screen and masking for 16:9 material. Have couple of questions:

1) Should I place the projector from the screen for 2.35 material which comes out to be around 19' from screen (projectorcentral calculator) or mount it for 16:9 screen and zoom out? Not sure which is better zoom in or out from PQ perspective.

2) is 11fL good for a room with one small window (1' x 2') which will be covered to minimize light or should I get a smaller screen.

TIA

Originally Posted by jayn_j

If you get a 2.35 screen, make sure that your projector has a way to accomodate 2.35 material. Some projectors have power zoom. Some have special 2.35 modes. The Epson 8350 has neither and is a poor choice for a 2.35:1 screen.

Originally Posted by Robert2011

The 8350 has a vertical lens shift of 96.3 percent. So it will slide up or down 96.3 percent of the height of your screen. Suspending the projector upside down will let you take full advantage of the ability to compensate vertically if mounting above the top of the screen. A 120" 16:9 diagonal screen will be 59" in height, so figure nearly that amount of shift.

Originally Posted by Electron Mike

Thanks for the information - so if the PJ is flush mounted at 12' high on the ceiling (inverted), where is the top of the projected image without the lens shift? I am assuming it is shifted down from the lens height even without using the lens shift?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by thebigeast44

I'll be buying an 8350 soon to replace a Panny AX200 which has a burned blue polarizer and a 2nd lamp which is near it's end.

There are a number of fine retailers including AV Science that offer the model. Based on the number of problems people report in this thread (I realize there are probably far more people happy with the unit than not), I'm wondering what the deciding factor has been for people in deciding where to purchase the unit.

For me, it is the return policy of the merchant. Most will not allow returns after 4 hours and/or after 14-15 days. I would prefer a 30 days no questions asked return policy. Amazon offers such a policy - do any other merchants?

Thanks in advance for any and all replies.

Originally Posted by Robert2011

Here's a really helpful link that will fully demonstrate the 8350's capability for a given room size.


Yes, inverted, the projector displays from lens level down. (If that makes sense) I'm not sure the 8350 has a additional built in offset. At least I can't find anything mentioning it, and I'm guessing that's because it has lens shift as a feature. At any rate, this link will help you determine the best placement for your situation. When selecting a projector, make sure you select the "Home" tab and not the "Business" tab. Good luck!

Originally Posted by domingos1965

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Originally Posted by pacemaker

hi guys

i have had a lot of trouble trying to get a non-faulty unit!
the latest has the following convergence issue. can you have a look and tell me if you think its acceptable or warrants yet another return. thanks

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...0/DSCN1446.jpg

Epson have offered to send an engineer

Originally Posted by mikeveli20

For those that have this projector, how well does it handle 1080/24p footage? Any negative side effects? Any noticeable differences between this and a projector that displays 1080/24p? Thanks.

Michael

Originally Posted by newfmp3

Well, I have asked Epson for a replacement as well since the convergence on mine irritates mel. Mine isn't as bad as yours. I am surprised people even put up with convergence issues at all. If I spent 1100 bucks on a LCD or Plasma TV that did this, it would be brought back instantly and never considered again. I will say that there was no fight in getting another sent. I got my doubts it'll be a NEW PJ though. If anyone is in a rush to get a replacement from Epson, I do not recommend doing it through email as it took my request near 2 weeks to complete.

Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman

With LCD projectors, you probably can not get perfect convergence.
Those who have claimed they have perfect convergence have yet posted a close up picture of their perfection.
I assume when someone here asks for proof, they find out that their convergence is not as perfect as they first thought.

If you can not deal with any degree of convergence, you need to move to a DLP projector.

Originally Posted by shadowlight

Crap, I though all projectors have that options . Thanks for pointing that out.

Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman

I use 1080p/24fps output from my blu-ray player to the projector.
Works with it very well using it's 2:2 pulldown.

*If the content on disc is not 24fps, the player may output 60fps but the projector will auto detect the signal and adjust.

Originally Posted by Hagopian

To everybody considering using this projector with a 2.35 screen: I toiled with this question for a long time, and finally resolved to go for it. I couldn't be happier. Using this projector with a 2.35 screen is absolutely amazing. There are a few prerequisites that ae critical to your happiness level if going for 2.35. I feel the need to list them.

1 ) Be sure that your projector is easily accessed. You will need to make manual zoom and lens shift adjustments...so if your projector is too high, or too far back..it will be a pain to adjust. Mine is just within arms reach above my couch, so it's quite simple to make the necessary changes.

2 ) Understand that when you are viewing 2.35 material, you are not using the entire 1080P resolution. You are essentially only zooming up the image, so as to push the black letterbox bars on the top and bottom of the image off screen. Depending on your settings, the bars will be barely visible. It is recommended to use a flat black background for behind your screen. I went with a pumpkin color, and it's not all that bad...but I couldn't get flat black approved by wifey.

3 ) If you watch a lot of television in HD 16:9 format, like I do, you will want to construct some sort of masking for the left and right sides of the screen when viewing this material. The reason for this is that you want the projected 16:9 image to pop off the screen. By making sure the image butts up against these masks you will see a better picture, more pop, and better blacks.

4 ) Understand that in many cases, dvd top menus, usually are in 16:9 format. Even if the movie itself is in 2.35. What this means is that if you decide mid-movie to goto the menu, the top and bottom of the menu will be off screen. Kinda annoying, but not a deal breaker.

5 ) The look on your guests faces when you fully fill a 2.35 screen after watching standard 16:9 material, will make it all worth while. AWE!!

I couldn't be happier with 2.35 set up. I highly recommend it if you can swallow the above listed considerations!!

Originally Posted by mikeveli20

Thanks for the reply. I will be using 1080p/24fps output from my blu-player also (PS3) so glad to there are no noticeable issues. So does the projector just play the image back at 48fps?

My other source of content would be TV which is 30fps so it sound like the 60FPS mode would just apply a 2:2: pulldown to this as well?

Michael

Originally Posted by Coolme

It's not easy reading threads about this projector and knowing if it's good or not. I'm buying either the 8350 or a used JVC RS1 and don't know which one is for me. Has anyone compared those two? Some say the Epson is flat some say it pops, blacks are good or blacks are the worse ... what to think. I saw the 8350 in action in a poor environment so it was hard to tell. What do you think here?

Originally Posted by Hagopian

2 ) Understand that when you are viewing 2.35 material, you are not using the entire 1080P resolution. You are essentially only zooming up the image, so as to push the black letterbox bars on the top and bottom of the image off screen. Depending on your settings, the bars will be barely visible. It is recommended to use a flat black background for behind your screen. I went with a pumpkin color, and it's not all that bad...but I couldn't get flat black approved by wifey.

Originally Posted by thebigeast44

I'll be buying an 8350 soon to replace a Panny AX200 which has a burned blue polarizer and a 2nd lamp which is near it's end.

There are a number of fine retailers including AV Science that offer the model. Based on the number of problems people report in this thread (I realize there are probably far more people happy with the unit than not), I'm wondering what the deciding factor has been for people in deciding where to purchase the unit.

For me, it is the return policy of the merchant. Most will not allow returns after 4 hours and/or after 14-15 days. I would prefer a 30 days no questions asked return policy. Amazon offers such a policy - do any other merchants?

Thanks in advance for any and all replies.

Originally Posted by newfmp3

My DLP died, I jumped to the 8350 based on recommendations here from others moving from the 4805 to the 8350. I do not hate my decision, but I am not content with it either. It's bloody bright which is great, but the typical motion issues, convergence and so so blacks do not impress me yet. I thought I'd at least try another PJ to see it remedies some issues. I did try to return the 8350 to Epson but long story short, I was 8 days past 30 on my return period. That's what happens with life/ a job get in the way. There are times where the PJ really impresses me, some movies really pop, but any dark movie simply does not impress me..which is typical for my eyes + any LCD.

Originally Posted by Joesyah

Having seen both..not a fair comparison. Even though the RS1 is an older unit ..it still has the better image bar-none.
Unless you need the brightness of the Epson..the RS1 will throw a better image. If you like the bright LCD look of flat panel TVs..then you'll love the Epson.

Originally Posted by coderguy

On average true, but MOST RS1's have some fairly serious convergence issues even worse than today's LCD's. If you get an Epson 8350 with very good convergence, I'll take the Epson because of the other issues. Maybe for pure movie watching the RS1 beats it because of contrast, but if you get the better convergence, Epson will look better on brighter scenes IMHO. The Epson is probably a couple steps ahead of the RS1 in motion too, but DLP being even a few more steps ahead of both.

I'm particularly picky about sharpness and motion though.

Originally Posted by Natedog07v

Couple question after my first few days of ownership... does the auto iris make a tiny bit of noise while it's running on all the units? I've found that mine sounds like a harddrive churning when i put auto iris to normal or high speed... when the sounds up i obviously never hear it, but i noticed it when it's quiet or if i mute the sound it is slightly noticeable...
Also, what modes do you guys usually use the auto iris in and also what modes do you use the epson super white? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Santi8

Yeah, a hard drive sound is a great way of describing it. I love this projector, but I have to say, IMO, the iris is complete crap. Even on high speed, the women in my family ask me why the brightness keeps going up and down. The reaction time is so slow it's distracting. I find myself noticing the delay instead of enjoying the picture quality. After 100 hours with the iris on, I have turned it off and probably won't go back.