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post #4021 of 8164
4/5/11 at 7:13pm
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post #4022 of 8164
4/5/11 at 11:36pm
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I taped 10 one hundred dollar bills around the edge of my screen not sure why but this improved the black levels for me.

Oh wow, you could totally sell that for $100 each, maybe call it "money border". I'd be a buyer for sure. Ok joking aside, i'd like to post an update.
I've had my 8350 since December 14th 2010, and i now have 358 hours on the lamp, and every day when i turn it on, it never fails me. I have slight convergence issues but i doubt anyone has "perfect" convergence, other than that there is nothing going wrong with my epson so far. The settings i use are Living room/eco with default settings 75% of the time and theater mode/normal 25% of the time. I have had to use dynamic mode a few times for various reasons but i don't use it enough for it to matter. Now the weird thing is that I'm in a room that is very dusty, very hot and the intake vent is 3 inches from the wall. I try my best to keep the room cool and free of dust, but it's just not possible where the projector is. Now this has got me wondering, did i get an absolutely perfect model ? You guys that have had problems, what kind of conditions are your projectors under? And where did you order from?
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post #4023 of 8164
4/5/11 at 11:46pm
In a projector can be factory plastic parts (plastic dust).
After the first cleaning, as a rule, the dust doesn't appear.
Or it is rare.
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post #4024 of 8164
4/6/11 at 7:46am
I must peace out from this thread.

I bought the 8700UB over the 8350 for its better colors, warrantee, and largely superior black levels.

Thanks for the pictures and help. The 8350 is still a rockin entry level projector though. But once you've seen the 8700UB...

Cheers!
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post #4025 of 8164
4/6/11 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by BKSRU View Post

In a projector can be factory plastic parts (plastic dust).
After the first cleaning, as a rule, the dust doesn't appear.
Or it is rare.

BKSRU,

Thank you for the pictures, are they more pictures? I am about to attempt to clean mine as well, but I am still nervous. I am very technical, and comfortable with electronics and tools. Would you say it's easy? If done carefully? How did you actually remove the dust blob from the panel itself?
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post #4026 of 8164
4/6/11 at 11:30am
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Oh wow, you could totally sell that for $100 each, maybe call it "money border". I'd be a buyer for sure. Ok joking aside, i'd like to post an update.
I've had my 8350 since December 14th 2010, and i now have 358 hours on the lamp, and every day when i turn it on, it never fails me. I have slight convergence issues but i doubt anyone has "perfect" convergence, other than that there is nothing going wrong with my epson so far. The settings i use are Living room/eco with default settings 75% of the time and theater mode/normal 25% of the time. I have had to use dynamic mode a few times for various reasons but i don't use it enough for it to matter. Now the weird thing is that I'm in a room that is very dusty, very hot and the intake vent is 3 inches from the wall. I try my best to keep the room cool and free of dust, but it's just not possible where the projector is. Now this has got me wondering, did i get an absolutely perfect model ? You guys that have had problems, what kind of conditions are your projectors under? And where did you order from?


Ok, I'll bite

PJ is 13" down from ceiling, with nothing else around it being in the center of the ceiling

New home, no dust outsdie of normal dust but the woman is anal about cleaning and we both have alergies to dust so it's pretty clean.

I even taped the ports on the back of the unit, and had the lens shift buttons done as well but admittedly not the entire time.

I am curious if the dust infected PJ's are all ceiling mounted
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post #4027 of 8164
4/6/11 at 1:34pm
I have only cleaned mine 3 times and i have 875 hours on mine. It is on a table and I have had no issues.
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post #4028 of 8164
4/6/11 at 6:41pm
Just received my "new" unit in a refurbished box, promptly wired it up and what did I find?, another larger green blob in a different location. I wonder what epson will say when I call them and let them know I now have 2 defective units sitting here.
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post #4029 of 8164
4/7/11 at 2:23am
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Originally Posted by Hagopian View Post
BKSRU,

Thank you for the pictures, are they more pictures? I am about to attempt to clean mine as well, but I am still nervous. I am very technical, and comfortable with electronics and tools. Would you say it's easy? If done carefully? How did you actually remove the dust blob from the panel itself?
EPSON 8700 doesn't belong to me. But I talked to the owner. Used compressed air (mouth) .
In a projector it is a lot of dust from factory (plastic). To clean, if it is possible (compressed air).

It isn't difficult. To unscrew some screws . Will occupy time of 30-60 minutes.
It is necessary: Patience, Accuracy, Screwdriver .
I expect delivery EPSON 8350 of US. No sense to drag back on trifles .
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post #4030 of 8164
4/7/11 at 4:37am
I should be receiving my screen and projector today! WOO!! Too bad the rear shelf/50 ft HDMI/etc. won't be here until Saturday

Quick question: Just in case issues crop up or I eventually want to upgrade and change to a DLP I want to put my rear shelf in a good location for any type of projector. It will be straight on from the screen so I won't be using any horizontal shift. Is it possible to put the shelf in a decent spot where a DLP might be able to be subbed out for this projector or should I not worry about it and just put the shelf in a more aesthetically pleasing spot for my 8350?

I'm excited either way!!! Come on UPS/FedEx/USPS with all of the goodies that'll make my HT come together...
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post #4031 of 8164
4/7/11 at 4:43am
My 8350 should be delivered today along with a Spears and Munsil BD calibration disc! :-) Good times!
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post #4032 of 8164
4/7/11 at 5:00am
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I should be receiving my screen and projector today! WOO!! Too bad the rear shelf/50 ft HDMI/etc. won't be here until Saturday

Quick question: Just in case issues crop up or I eventually want to upgrade and change to a DLP I want to put my rear shelf in a good location for any type of projector. It will be straight on from the screen so I won't be using any horizontal shift. Is it possible to put the shelf in a decent spot where a DLP might be able to be subbed out for this projector or should I not worry about it and just put the shelf in a more aesthetically pleasing spot for my 8350?

I'm excited either way!!! Come on UPS/FedEx/USPS with all of the goodies that'll make my HT come together...
Pretty much impossible to predict where to put the shelf to. Especially since we know nothing about your room (or do we as I never looked at your previous posts)

I've pretty much accepted that whatever I buy, I need to put it where it belongs or don't buy it.

DLP without lens shift is a b@#$ to get right in some rooms.
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post #4033 of 8164
4/7/11 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by newfmp3 View Post
Pretty much impossible to predict where to put the shelf to. Especially since we know nothing about your room (or do we as I never looked at your previous posts)

I've pretty much accepted that whatever I buy, I need to put it where it belongs or don't buy it.

DLP without lens shift is a b@#$ to get right in some rooms.
Then I won't worry about it. I auditioned the 8350 and it worked perfectly from the spot by holding it up to a measured area of where the screen goes, so I'll just hope my next projector has the same abilities

Thanks for the response! Out for delivery!...
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post #4034 of 8164
4/7/11 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by redfox102 View Post

Oh wow, you could totally sell that for $100 each, maybe call it "money border". I'd be a buyer for sure. Ok joking aside, i'd like to post an update.
I've had my 8350 since December 14th 2010, and i now have 358 hours on the lamp, and every day when i turn it on, it never fails me. I have slight convergence issues but i doubt anyone has "perfect" convergence, other than that there is nothing going wrong with my epson so far. The settings i use are Living room/eco with default settings 75% of the time and theater mode/normal 25% of the time. I have had to use dynamic mode a few times for various reasons but i don't use it enough for it to matter. Now the weird thing is that I'm in a room that is very dusty, very hot and the intake vent is 3 inches from the wall. I try my best to keep the room cool and free of dust, but it's just not possible where the projector is. Now this has got me wondering, did i get an absolutely perfect model ? You guys that have had problems, what kind of conditions are your projectors under? And where did you order from?

The 100 dollar thing is for anyone that is moaning about the black levels. If the black levels aren't good enough for your taste go spend double or triple. There is always something better out their if you want to spend more. For the money I don't think this projector can be beat. I sent one back also and it took 4 tries to get it right. Quality control may be lacking but Epson will next day air a projector to you until its right.

As far as the dust blob I got on my original I am in a basement ceiling mounted. I don't think my room is that dusty and I got one after 4-6 months. Might be better to just try and clean it out if that is possible haven't tried myself so I can't verify for sure.
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post #4035 of 8164
4/7/11 at 9:25am
Achieving pure black during the darkest scenes is over rated. For me, so long as the picture achieves pure black during scenes featuring well lit items and multicolored items, then I am more than happy. Even the very best plasmas, LCDs, and movie theaters, including all digital IMAX presentations start to look dark grey when the screen goes all dark (compare to the darkness around the screen when the lights are off).

This machine produces deep blacks that are close enough to match my Pioneer Plasma to satisfy my needs and when you add in the fact that you can get an 80 inch to 120 inch picture in crystal clear 1080p, you will never look back and thank yourself for buying this machine. Even regular DVDs look amazing.

My family is thrilled and yours will be too.
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post #4036 of 8164
4/7/11 at 9:39am
So my projector was suppose to arrive last Thursday but showed up when I wasn't able to be home in order to sign for it. So I decided to do will call for that same night. I get to the UPS facility and wait around for 45 minutes before they tell me I have to come back the next day for my projector. I had a small windows after work to pick it up. I hauled ass over there and obtained my projector 15 minutes before I would have had to come back the next day.

Fast forward to sat morning I go to ikea and pick out a shelf. Turns out they don't have the wall mount rod in stock and won't have them in until the next day. I had to go back again the following day

Sunday night I order a screen, it was suppose to come yesterday but never showed. Turns out they lost it and had to send a replacement. The replacement should arrive today.

I did fire up the projector and watched it for a little bit. It looks great and I can't wait to see it on a screen. The picture size alone is awesome. Once I turned it off it made my 54in plasma look so tiny.
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post #4037 of 8164
4/7/11 at 10:45am
My pj has arrived! Went home for lunch and was able to open it. That thing is huge! Man, sounded like my wife. Hahaha

BTW, what size are the mounting screws?
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post #4038 of 8164
4/7/11 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by Manos777 View Post

Achieving pure black during the darkest scenes is over rated. For me, so long as the picture achieves pure black during scenes featuring well lit items and multicolored items, then I am more than happy. Even the very best plasmas, LCDs, and movie theaters, including all digital IMAX presentations start to look dark grey when the screen goes all dark (compare to the darkness around the screen when the lights are off).

This machine produces deep blacks that are close enough to match my Pioneer Plasma to satisfy my needs and when you add in the fact that you can get an 80 inch to 120 inch picture in crystal clear 1080p, you will never look back and thank yourself for buying this machine. Even regular DVDs look amazing.

My family is thrilled and yours will be too.

Your Pioneer PLasma should be LEAPS better then this or 90+% of most PJ's out there. I know you are excited about a new toy and all, and I was the same way on day one. But after three of these things, even my oldest Panny plasma looks better, beit blacks or colors or contrast/pop, and I have a bat cave with controlled lighting, and have tried 4 different screen materials now. Sit and watch it for a while, then go back to the plasma, you'll see.
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post #4039 of 8164
4/7/11 at 12:58pm
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Your Pioneer PLasma should be LEAPS better then this or 90+% of most PJ's out there. I know you are excited about a new toy and all, and I was the same way on day one. But after three of these things, even my oldest Panny plasma looks better, beit blacks or colors or contrast/pop, and I have a bat cave with controlled lighting, and have tried 4 different screen materials now. Sit and watch it for a while, then go back to the plasma, you'll see.

TV is so dead to me.... If I could I would watch a projector all the time. I have a 50" and the only viewing it gets is casual tv and some sports. All movies and gaming are on the projector 100% of the time.
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post #4040 of 8164
4/7/11 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by newfmp3 View Post

Your Pioneer PLasma should be LEAPS better then this or 90+% of most PJ's out there. I know you are excited about a new toy and all, and I was the same way on day one. But after three of these things, even my oldest Panny plasma looks better, beit blacks or colors or contrast/pop, and I have a bat cave with controlled lighting, and have tried 4 different screen materials now. Sit and watch it for a while, then go back to the plasma, you'll see.

At first I thought I was just excited about the possibility of getting a new toy so I went back & it still looks like a 110" plasma. I got home looked @ my 50" plasma & the 8350 looked just as good. Now I just have to convince the wife that this is a needed investment
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post #4041 of 8164
4/7/11 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by leaningjowler View Post

The 100 dollar thing is for anyone that is moaning about the black levels. If the black levels aren't good enough for your taste go spend double or triple. There is always something better out their if you want to spend more. For the money I don't think this projector can be beat. I sent one back also and it took 4 tries to get it right. Quality control may be lacking but Epson will next day air a projector to you until its right.

Totally, but you sound very defensive about the 8350. It's a great projector, but the 8700UB is $800 more (with a free $300 bulb), making it realistically $500 more, which is far from "double or triple" the amount. The difference between their black levels (contrast is really important) are staggering, and the 8700UB has more accurate colors. I think it has an extended warrantee, too.

Both are great projectors, but don't "settle" that what you've said is completely true.
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post #4042 of 8164
4/7/11 at 3:20pm
#3 is on it's way to me, will post with the findings.
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post #4043 of 8164
4/7/11 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by mech27 View Post

At first I thought I was just excited about the possibility of getting a new toy so I went back & it still looks like a 110" plasma. I got home looked @ my 50" plasma & the 8350 looked just as good. Now I just have to convince the wife that this is a needed investment

Well, personally I think it looks like a giant LCD, as plasma looks better
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post #4044 of 8164
4/7/11 at 5:57pm
I cursed myself when i said my projector had no problems yesterday... Today i turned it on and it had a "dust blob" about 3 inches across in the top right corner I believe I'll stop bragging now... Anyway, does anyone know how i could fix it? And if i call epson how am i supposed to describe the problem? Saying its a green dust blob sounds so stupid.
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post #4045 of 8164
4/7/11 at 6:17pm
We write a complaint letter: spots on the screen. Themselves define: dust it or not.
If there is no warranty or purchased from you (US), prefer to clean themselves. It's faster.
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post #4046 of 8164
4/7/11 at 7:01pm
I had a problem with my wife's Vizio & their customer service rep asked me to take a picture with my camera phone & email it to them I was surprised but might as well use the tools that's available to us; so try that
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post #4047 of 8164
4/7/11 at 8:08pm
Wow I have held off for the past 9 months hoping some of the QC issues would have been resolved. Maybe I should just wait for the next version to come out.
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post #4048 of 8164
4/7/11 at 9:15pm
redfox102 just call them and tell them there is a 3" spot on your screen, they'll have you unplug your source and see if it's still there, when you say yes it is they will overnight ship you out a shiny new refurbished one, hopefully your "new" one doesn't show up with a dust blob like mine did.

Honestly everyone, I think Epson has a huge problem on their hands with this unit, Seems like almost every day someone new on this forum is experiencing these dust blobs. Funny thing is, the 8700UB forum doesn't seem to have anywhere near these issues, and I think the filter system on the two is similar, so what is different?
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post #4049 of 8164
4/7/11 at 10:35pm
Howdy folks,
So no one seemed to have any opinion on my screen question so we purchased a cheapo 150" Elite manual pulldown. It was 220 with shipping so if it's poo I'll just take it or sell it. I'll post pics after the install. So next, a ceiling mount. What's a good middle of the road universal mount? I know about the chief mount, which looks great but seems like a little overkill. And the monoprice piece is nice and cheap but maybe a little too much so. I'm looking for something between those. About 40-50 ducks would be great. Cheers,
Alex
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post #4050 of 8164
4/8/11 at 5:12am
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Originally Posted by WithAlligators View Post
I know about the chief mount, which looks great but seems like a little overkill. And the monoprice piece is nice and cheap but maybe a little too much so. I'm looking for something between those. About 40-50 ducks would be great. Cheers,
Alex
I've had the monoprice mount, not worth the trouble. Have not tried the chief because I like you thought, too expensive. I tried the Mountdirect NPL. I live in Canada and it was $78 shipped. It is strong, fully adjustable, comes with EVERY screw ever needed to mount every projector on the planet, and uses 1.5" NPT plumbing pipe for a drop tube so you can buy any length you want and paint it black, the only cons I see is that the quick release system is a bit of a PITA and you WILL need 2 people for this with the 8350. and the mounting arms are not the greatest and it is slightly wobbly once hung up if you give the PJ a shake. I would say though, for the money, it's a great mount. Want better? spend the $$$ on the chief.
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