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post #4201 of 8117
4/19/11 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by fedocable View Post

Is anyone there getting a report of exact 24fps when playing a blu-ray? (or, likewise, of 60fps or 50fps when playing a ntsc or pal dvd). For some reason, I always get 23.9fps, 59.9fps and 49.9fps...
I wouldn´t worry about it, but yesterday I checked a pal dvd and it was reported at exact 50 fps, so I began wondering if there might be a strange pulldown with everything else.

So it should be.
Standard PAL of 25 shots in a second.
In the High definition Standard one of modes - 23.97 shots in a second. It and the most widespread.
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post #4202 of 8117
4/19/11 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by BKSRU View Post

It is better to laugh together. If I too badly write also me difficult to understand. Specify.
I understand that you fan EPSON. Strangely enough, I admirer EPSON.

Lol I agree... BTW, what is your native language?
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post #4203 of 8117
4/19/11 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by fedocable View Post

Is anyone there getting a report of exact 24fps when playing a blu-ray? (or, likewise, of 60fps or 50fps when playing a ntsc or pal dvd). For some reason, I always get 23.9fps, 59.9fps and 49.9fps...
I wouldn´t worry about it, but yesterday I checked a pal dvd and it was reported at exact 50 fps, so I began wondering if there might be a strange pulldown with everything else.

I have seen the same thing. The 59.9/60 Hz is caused by an old problem in color TV with 60 Hz and the color subcarrier frequency. I don't remember the details, but true 60 Hz interlaced went out with black and white TV. The 23.9/24 FPS is peculiar, however. There can't be a color subcarrier problem with film.
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post #4204 of 8117
4/19/11 at 7:38am
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Originally Posted by ERuiz View Post

Lol I agree... BTW, what is your native language?

My native language is Russian. Studied German. But I read often in English.
Live speech is easier. To write more difficult. Our turns of speech it is more difficult than yours. Therefore, that I write can don't look correct.
But I will try. Also I hope, in due course to correct.
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post #4205 of 8117
4/19/11 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by BKSRU View Post

My native language is Russian. Studied German. But I read often in English.
Live speech is easier. To write more difficult. Our turns of speech it is more difficult than yours. Therefore, that I write can don't look correct.
But I will try. Also I hope, in due course to correct.

Cool, you do pretty good and we are glad you are around. =)
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post #4206 of 8117
4/19/11 at 8:24am
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Originally Posted by ERuiz View Post

Cool, you do pretty good and we are glad you are around. =)

What the 'ell are ya doing on the Forum when there's squirtin' needs a'doin'?

Whip it out and get sumpthin' wet!
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post #4207 of 8117
4/19/11 at 8:29am
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Originally Posted by BKSRU View Post

My native language is Russian. Studied German. But I read often in English.
Live speech is easier. To write more difficult. Our turns of speech it is more difficult than yours. Therefore, that I write can don't look correct.
But I will try. Also I hope, in due course to correct.


Мой русский язык не настолько очень ужасен.

Испытайте эту программу Перевода.

http://www.freetranslation.com/

......try it...it works both ways, and it's a good thing to rely on when you need to relate things precisely, and in fact it can help one to determine where their own efforts are failing.
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post #4208 of 8117
4/19/11 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post



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What he said...
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post #4209 of 8117
4/19/11 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Мой русский язык не настолько очень ужасен.

Really I wrote, what my Russian is awful ?
About my god, if it so. It is necessary to trust is more often to itself, than the translator.

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......try it...it works both ways, and it's a good thing to rely on when you need to relate things precisely, and in fact it can help one to determine where their own efforts are failing.

Thanks! I try.
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post #4210 of 8117
4/19/11 at 9:46am
Does anybody have an F-stop range for the automatic iris? The un-stopped lens is F 2.0 when zoomed to wide angle, and F 3.17 when zoomed to telephoto. I haven't seen any spec on the iris control range. The "dynamic contrast ratio" is spec'ed at 50,000:1, and if there is a "native contrast ratio", then the ratio of those two is the control range of the iris. I haven't seen a spec for that either.

My eyes tell me it is changing about 4 stops, but that's certainly not scientific.
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post #4211 of 8117
4/19/11 at 10:52am
For those who mention wanting to see live concerts using this projector, please do yourself a favor and rent/buy Diana Krall in Rio on blu-ray. Your eyes will pop out of your sockets. Not only is it filmed in Hi Def, but there are shots of Rio De Janeiro that will make you smell the ocean and want to reach out and feel the sand, plus Diana looks fantastic. On the close ups you can see her flawless skin and catch every nuance of her expressive face. Incredible sound, too. Personal fave was her version of Walk On By, made famous by Dionne Warwick. A great test of how well this projector handles skin tones.
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post #4212 of 8117
4/19/11 at 11:05am
Also, recently played Tron: Legacy and it looked fantastic. This is a challenging movie for a projector in this price range, as there are many dark scenes featuring tons of black areas, but it performed amazingly, certainly no worse than what I remember the movie looking like in the cineplex. The lightcycles looked amazing. Very smooth movement and lots of eye popping detail.
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post #4213 of 8117
4/19/11 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

You should keep returning your projector until you get one with just good enough convergence (2 pixels or less), then just sell it and recover your money.
Then buy a DLP, it sounds like you are really unhappy with it, it just isn't for you. I can understand that, some people just don't like certain things about certain projectors.

You are judging the units from the RMA pool, the units in the RMA pool are ON AVERAGE going to have worse convergence for obvious reasons.
You have no idea the convergence accuracy percentages based on new units.

According to most, a NEW 8700ub or NEW 8350 has greatly improved convergence and quality control over the previous models.
I am defending it because Epson has done better than any other company in actually improving or addressing issues (at least they are trying). More than I can say for most of these other companies. Look in the JVC or Sony threads, even the Panny threads, all of brands and units have plenty of lemons, it's just part of the game.

I can see people getting sick of QC in projectors in general right now, it does seem pretty questionable overall, but it seems Epson is just on par with the others, if not even better than them now.
We don't dismiss it, but it's just part of the issue with LCD, it's just one of the downsides, it's not something that can be rectified at this price point.
Their isn't the money to have perfect convergence on every unit, the projector would have to cost far far more.

DLP has RBE for a percentage of users, so pick your poison.

At least you can keep exchanging it, if I pull the trigger on the Sanyo z4000 I may get totally screwed over. I didn't see very many problems on the z3000, and since the z4000 is just an upgraded z3000, that is why I am considering it. The 8700ub is still tempting though.

All 3 of my projectors were new, not refurbs. I would not accept refurb when I only had 40 hrs on original bulb.
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post #4214 of 8117
4/19/11 at 12:36pm
How did you get new projectors, doesn't Epson only give refurbs.
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post #4215 of 8117
4/19/11 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Manos777 View Post

Also, recently played Tron: Legacy and it looked fantastic. This is a challenging movie for a projector in this price range, as there are many dark scenes featuring tons of black areas, but it performed amazingly, certainly no worse than what I remember the movie looking like in the cineplex. The lightcycles looked amazing. Very smooth movement and lots of eye popping detail.

I watched Tron: Legacy last week and the 8350 did a great job as far as I was concerned. The IMAX scenes were especially amazing. This was one of the first movies I experienced on a projector, so it could have just been the size that was impressing me. I also watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 a couple of days ago and I thought the Epson handled that quite well also. And that is one dark movie, especially the first half hour or so.
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post #4216 of 8117
4/19/11 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by hepalex

I watched Tron: Legacy last week and the 8350 did a great job as far as I was concerned. The IMAX scenes were especially amazing. This was one of the first movies I experienced on a projector, so it could have just been the size that was impressing me. I also watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 a couple of days ago and I thought the Epson handled that quite well also. And that is one dark movie, especially the first half hour or so.
I've used Tron Legacy as my showing off movie when friends come over. It simply looks amazing on this pj.
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post #4217 of 8117
4/19/11 at 1:11pm
Some of the IMAX Blurays are pretty mind blowing on any modern projector.
That is what I generally use to show off.
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post #4218 of 8117
4/19/11 at 1:56pm
Hoping someone can help out. I just posted yesterday about my image having a slight inward slant at the top and bottom of my screen on the right hand side. Lens shifting hasn't fixed it. leg adjustment hasn't worked and shifting my projector back and forward either. Any idea what could be causing this and what is the possible (more than likely easy) fix i can do?
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post #4219 of 8117
4/19/11 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by Manos777 View Post
... Not only is it filmed in Hi Def, but there are shots of Rio De Janeiro that will make you smell the ocean and want to reach out and feel the sand, plus Diana looks fantastic...
And obviously you are not a Brazilian guy
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post #4220 of 8117
4/19/11 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by Manos777
but there are shots of Rio De Janeiro that will make you smell the ocean and want to reach out and feel the sand
Hmmmmm If this is the case, I'm gonna have to try it with some of my porn. LOL
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post #4221 of 8117
4/19/11 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by invadergir View Post
Hoping someone can help out. I just posted yesterday about my image having a slight inward slant at the top and bottom of my screen on the right hand side. Lens shifting hasn't fixed it. leg adjustment hasn't worked and shifting my projector back and forward either. Any idea what could be causing this and what is the possible (more than likely easy) fix i can do?
That is because your projector is not parallel (horizontally) to the screen. Rotate the projector and correct with zoom and lens-shift.
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post #4222 of 8117
4/19/11 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by ERuiz View Post
Hmmmmm If this is the case, I'm gonna have to try it with some of my porn. LOL
Pleeeeeease, do a review!
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post #4223 of 8117
4/19/11 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by ERuiz View Post


I've used Tron Legacy as my showing off movie when friends come over. It simply looks amazing on this pj.

Avatar or Toy Story 3 are the movies I use to show off this projector. Both are stunning on it.
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post #4224 of 8117
4/19/11 at 6:05pm
Yah Avatar is stunning on any projector, something to do with the color saturation.
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post #4225 of 8117
4/19/11 at 6:59pm
I've had my 8350 for about a week now and just love it........ I was very apprehensive since I was upgrading from a Benq PE8700 and was planing on sticking with DLP, but few posts color wheel speeds in their specs that I could see and I suffer from serious RBE. I bought the Acer H7530D before this and got noxious trying to watch The Mummy, with it's white text and very dark background. I sent it back and kept looking. I kept seeing great reviews for the 8350, but since my first PJ was the Sony VW10HT, I remember how bad LCD's could be with dark scenes. Well, I took the chance and I'm very happy I did, this PJ is sweet...... Side by side with my Benq, my 8350 just pops and is so quite I first thought I had a bad fan. I could go on but I've got movies to watch........
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post #4226 of 8117
4/19/11 at 7:48pm
MississippiMan

1. If you not against, I use 3 translators. I shall number. Choose what is most exact. In the further it also I shall use. If you will not complicate to correct for me, I shall be grateful.
2. If you not against, I use 3 translators. I will number. Choose what is most exact. In further it also I will use. If you won't complicate to correct me, I will be grateful.
3. If you do not mind, use 3 interpreter. Voucher numbers. Choose the one that is most accurate. In the future, and it will use. If you do not make it more difficult to correct me, I will be grateful.

Thanks.
To me is what to tell. Also it is a pity that you I understand more than you me.
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post #4227 of 8117
4/20/11 at 1:53am
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Originally Posted by invadergir View Post

Hoping someone can help out. I just posted yesterday about my image having a slight inward slant at the top and bottom of my screen on the right hand side. Lens shifting hasn't fixed it. leg adjustment hasn't worked and shifting my projector back and forward either. Any idea what could be causing this and what is the possible (more than likely easy) fix i can do?

Yeah. Simply twist the left corner of the PJ very slightly "forward". The right edge of your Lens is not perpendicular to the wall, (...it's closer to the right corner of the screen....) and that is making that right corner appear smaller, so the twist will make the inward slant even out.
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post #4228 of 8117
4/20/11 at 2:10am
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Originally Posted by BKSRU View Post

MississippiMan

1. If you not against, I use 3 translators. I shall number. Choose what is most exact. In the further it also I shall use. If you will not complicate to correct for me, I shall be grateful.

Seems pretty close. The preferred language on AVS is English, but it can be a real help if one can also converse with a Foreign Member in their own language. However the Moderators prefer (...even insist...) that English be used. If you need a way to express yourself clearer, feel free to PM me in Russian and I'll re-post any translation back onto the Thread.


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Thanks.
To me is what to tell. Also it is a pity that you I understand more than you me.

Don't fret overly about that. A great many have felt otherwise.

Кажется достаточно близким. Привилегированный язык на AVS является английским, но это может быть реальная помощь, если Вы можете также разговаривать с Иностранным Членом на их собственном языке. Если Вы нуждаетесь в способе выразиться более ясный, не стесняйтесь Премьер-министру меня на русском языке, и я повторно объявлю любой перевод назад на Нить.

Я путешествую во всем мире экстенсивно, и должен общаться по электронной почте со многими культурами. Я завишу от хорошего инструмента Перевода весьма часто.

http://www.freetranslation.com/
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post #4229 of 8117
4/20/11 at 2:19am
MississippiMan
Many thanks!
It is possible to duplicate messages?
So easier to supervise mistakes.
I wish to improve the knowledge of English.

Большое спасибо!
Можно дублировать сообщения?
Так проще контролировать ошибки.
Хочу улучшить свои знания английского.


PM is a private theme? (It is translated as the Prime minister. )
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post #4230 of 8117
4/20/11 at 3:07am
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Ok...this is what BKSRU really wants to relate. Leastwise as best as can be effectively translated:

That I wished to tell in the messages:
- EPSON 8350 best projector of the second level. Cool.

- Convergence within the limits of legal. But if there is an opportunity of a choice it is better to check up before purchase. A simple way of check - to deduce the white text on a subfloor (utility NokiaTest). The black text on a white floor gives not enough information.

- In occasion of photos. It is an example of extreme cases. Both within the limits of legal. Certainly, the second case is better. And the user will estimate it.

- Convergence of a new ruler 8350 and 8700, at the same level as well as at 8100 and 8500. But clearness of new projectors (8350 and 8700) is better.

- If wish to have a projector with greater clearness it is necessary to take 8700. Quality of assembly as well as at 8350 and convergence at the same level. But 8700 has function " Super Resolution ". It is a good thing. Considerably raises clearness. Clients are happy.

- 8700 possesses useful function Frame Interpolation, but in 8350 me it is replaced with program SVP. To adjust simply.

- The dust on matrixes does not excite me. Independently to open a projector and to blow matrixes not difficultly. Especially, if the copy has got with good convergence, there is no sense to send on preventive maintenance. But it considering, that the projector was bought in the USA, through eBay.
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