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post #5401 of 8117
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Yes you can.

Go ahead you 'Fraidy cats....., hate me.

There are Plastic Toggle Anchors available that place a 3" wide bar across a 1/2" Hole, and are rated at 60 lbs ea, Use Four of those spaced out 8" Corner to Corner and you can easily accommodate the 8350. (...no swinging on it though...)

Such Fasteners are use to hang Kitchen cabinets that can weigh up to 100 lbs each.

Using the Peerless ACC570 Plate, it's all really quite easily done.

I've hung a LG CF181 with them (26 lbs), and Wall mounts for up to 65" Plasmas and LCD TVs.

Guys, (...to whomever it applies...) don't go so far as to discount or dismiss anything out of hand if you've got no experience dealing with such or are not yourself aware of a solution. It's not fair to those who might need encouragement. You don't have to say yes if your not sure...but you don't have to irrevocably say no.



Also..
The 8700 is worth the difference if you want the absolute best Black levels in any given circumstances. However a High Contrast Screen mated with the 8350 can RocK your World. Then again, using the 8700 with such a screen is even more moving an experience.

can u point me to a place that sells High Contrast screens?
post #5402 of 8117
I have an accuscreen White 106
post #5403 of 8117
Good pic just reversed numbers?
post #5404 of 8117
MississippiMan,
The screen that I'm using right now is the BW is this a good match for the 8350 or 8700.
post #5405 of 8117
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by domingos1965 View Post

can u point me to a place that sells High Contrast screens?

You don't mention a size, or a budget, so below are some links to a few very good, low budget HC Screens. The links are for Fixed Screens (solid frame)

http://www.htdepot.com/Focupix_Wides...69lt-120gy.htm

http://www.htdepot.com/Focupix_Wides...s169gy-106.htm

http://www.htdepot.com/Focupix_Wides...69lt-100gy.htm

http://www.htdepot.com/Recon_A_Focup...72111-a104.htm

These screens have most all you'll need if your "entry-level" and still have great expectations. T'was a time suggesting a HG Gray screen was akin to condemning someone to having muted colors and dull whites.
........unless they owned a PJ with sufficient lumens (2000) and accurate colors in the brighter Modes.

Excepting those owning into the Panny 100-200 series and some Optomas, (...and a few with Presentation PJs), that left owning a HC Gray screen resigned to something like self-flagellation.

No more...with the 8350 in Living Room Mode, and calibrated to the shade of Gray of the screen. It's pretty much a "jaw drop" moment when you first see
the blacks go deep south while the perception of having higher white levels remains the same.

For the absolute best results, mount the PJ within 2' of the minimum Throw needed to achieve your image size and try hard to center the Lens on the Screen's center.

What you could / should expect.

Epson 8350
125" Diagonal HC Gray Screen (Fixed: w/Beveled Black Velvet Frame)
Throw Distance 14'
16 ft. Lambert off screen brightness

Screen cost: $449.00

Certainly rhere are "High Gain" Gray Screens, as well as reference White Screens and several worthy DIY screens (...my favorite...) . But the ones above have seen much action, and very few complaints. And obviously, you won't find any other Mfg. Fixed Screens of any appreciable level build quality / performance in the respective Screen sizes... elsewhere that come within being 100% more expensive then the ones above.

Perhaps the best thing...you'll not feel like your being dragged through the streets if you decide to upgrade later to a more advanced, expensive screen because you only sank $225 to 440 dollars to get stated.

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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

MississippiMan,
The screen that I'm using right now is the BW is this a good match for the 8350 or 8700.

Yes....and the lower you place the PJ, the less of a degree of "Speckles" you'll see. a bright PJ tends to highlight the difference between reflective particles and the non reflective areas surrounding them.
Narrowing the angle you view the image coming from the PJ will reduce their overt presence...leastwise as much as the effect can be mitigated.

domingos1965, The Screen just referred to is a DIY High Contrast Gray that is an example of a Gray Screen that can take full advantage of a bright Pj w/decent Contrast already in the bag.
The issues I mentioned are subjective...and not always "issues" at all for some.
post #5406 of 8117
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mikes2cents View Post

MM I know you are in the business of can do. I also agree it can be done. I also agree with the poster who said one can find a stud somewhere in the window of mounting. Regardless, when I see someone asking a question like this it leads me to believe they ought not attempt to do it because if they had the know how in the first place they would probably not be asking. Just find a stud for at least two screws in this instance. The 8350 is very forgiving.

Your right.....and as far as the 8350, yes....moving to one side or another from dead center to find a stud can...and should be done because the Lens Shift Feature is there to correct the offset.

But sometime Cosmetics, or 24" O.C. framing running the wrong direction...all sorts of things can stymie, if not stifle a project for the Noob.

The Forum is a place to exchange ideas, and help others. I try to do the latter as much as possible...maybe to a fault to some. Like the above situation. I sometimes see a solution that fits where others either fail to see the same, or just decide not to "Go There", and I just "Go There" myself.

Over 9 years I've dealt with so many people who had absolutely no idea about what they were about to attempt, and walked them through the process, that I just don't relate anymore to the terms, "No can do". and "It's beyond me..." I'm glad if I can make things happen effectively, afford-ably, and as easily as possible. That delves into a great many fronts concerning A/V. If I fly into somewhere with 3 days to do something and get it done, I've developed the knack of not letting anything stop that progress. Usually. Mostly. .......but unfortunately not always. Murphy being a second Cousin on my Wife's side.

But...what I don't ever "intend" to do is step on toes. In what I do in the real world, I train people from the ground up in A/V design and installation. So naturally I carry my life "off Forum" onto "The Forum" just about every day. I'm not alone...AVS is chock full of us crazies.

I definitely see your point though...and it's valid in many cases. It's just I cannot help from trying to do something to change that for those who come asking for such help. Really. Sometimes I feel guilty of I miss a personally directed request for help buried in a plethora of posts. (..and sometimes I even get yelled at for not responding...my loy in Life it seems.)

Brook no mistake...it's become an addiction.

Just ask my Wife.
post #5407 of 8117
A bit off topic but...Obviously we bought our 8350 based off of pro reviews and me perusing the forums here but then I started reading all the negative customer reviews on Amazon. Now I'm scared I made the wrong decision with all the blown bulb stories and other catastrophic failures. Sure our z4 had a panel replaced and had a few premature bulbs but the string of bad incidents with the 8350 seems endless.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by frogpond1 View Post

A bit off topic but...Obviously we bought our 8350 based off of pro reviews and me perusing the forums here but then I started reading all the negative customer reviews on Amazon. Now I'm scared I made the wrong decision with all the blown bulb stories and other catastrophic failures. Sure our z4 had a panel replaced and had a few premature bulbs but the string of bad incidents with the 8350 seems endless.

Well, lets see what shakes out for you. Endless on Amazon isn't the same as it is on AVS.
post #5409 of 8117
I just started working on a plan for my HT and I'm convinced I want to start with the Epson 8350. I can't decide whether I want to buy it online (Amazon, or eBay etc.) or if I should buy it from my local Best Buy store. Best Buy sells them for $1300 but I just got a 12% off coupon I can use for it bringing it down to $1144. Plus I would get back 4% in BB rewards certificates (appx. $45) so I'd really be paying $1100 for a brand new one.

So, two questions.

1. Is this a reasonable price?

2. Where would you (or did you) buy your Epson 8350 from?

Thanks!
post #5410 of 8117
Hey MississippiMan, give me your honest opinion. What do you think would be better bang for you buck? an ISF calibration from a really good tech like kevin miller or one of those fixed screens from HTdepot for $449 upgrade from a entry Elite 1.1 white screen. Another words if you can only choose one which would it be?
post #5411 of 8117
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

What he said..... And yes...the standard Thread used on Steel Pipe matches the Thread on the RPA mounts.

rcliff, that's a hefty Flange there! Last time I used one like that I was hanging a huge SONY, one of their first 1080p units. It weighed in at over 45lbs, so that time it was Steel Pipe and Flange-City.

Finally got it mounted I'm pretty pleased with how it came out but still have to run the HDMI and power. MM, thanks so much for your advise and boy were you right about going with the RPA168. So simple and elegant. Glad I didn't by some cheap univeral mount. Oh, and that 8350. What a picture. Stunning!

post #5412 of 8117
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Originally Posted by rcliff View Post

Finally got it mounted I'm pretty pleased with how it came out

Good job so far ... looks solid (safe) and pretty. I think I like the idea of using the inexpensive parts from HomeDepot to finish it out ... strong and versatile.

What are your plans for the HDMI and power? Do you have attic access?
post #5413 of 8117
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Originally Posted by Jud64209 View Post

Where would you (or did you) buy your Epson 8350 from?

I would recommend Amazon. Why? Because if you have panel alignment issues, color uniformity issues or whatnot they will take it back (as defective) no questions asked. Either for a replacement or refund. With the amount of issues projectors have a little insurance goes a long way.
post #5414 of 8117
I don't normally cross post (sorry) but I am on this one as there are two things in play and I wanted to get input from actual 8350 projector owners.. Other post is over in the Monoprice screen thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21055597

I'm on the edge of making some purchases. The Epson 8350 is on the top of my list (local Fry's has them on sale) and I think I want one of the Monoprice 106" screens.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

The room is for TV, Gaming, and movies, DVD and BRay. Room will be dedicated, no windows, with first seating row of 2 at 10 feet and row of 4 seats 6-8 inches up and behind. Relatively small room with only 8' ceiling. NO purchases of seats or screen have been made (yet) BUT I may go get the projector tomorrow.

I'll have the projector ceiling mounted at the exact "no-zoom" throw distance for the projector to produce a full 106" diagonal picture, no left-right shift. The top of the screen will be 9" below the lowest point of the projector (inverted top) so there will be up-down shift.

I've gone back and forth on gray versus white and NOW I've read ALL this information on the screens with the built in mask for 2:35:1 viewing. Is the reflection from the top/bottom black bars for 2:35 format really worth the roughly $150 in price? I know, worth is relative!!!!

So, gray, white, mask, no mask ??????? THANKS in advance
post #5415 of 8117
Please show me some love with my situation. Downloaded avs calibration, have contrast in negatives and brightness in positives. Sounds reversed to everyone elses. I have a white accuscreen 106 inch. Not that the size matters but may help with identification.
post #5416 of 8117
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Originally Posted by Jud64209 View Post

I just started working on a plan for my HT and I'm convinced I want to start with the Epson 8350. I can't decide whether I want to buy it online (Amazon, or eBay etc.) or if I should buy it from my local Best Buy store. Best Buy sells them for $1300 but I just got a 12% off coupon I can use for it bringing it down to $1144. Plus I would get back 4% in BB rewards certificates (appx. $45) so I'd really be paying $1100 for a brand new one.

So, two questions.

1. Is this a reasonable price?

2. Where would you (or did you) buy your Epson 8350 from?

Thanks!

Well there are two listings on Amazon and one of them is sold from Electronics Expo which has it for 1085. At the time (last week) EE had it for 1055 but we didn't want to wait so we showed Best Buy the price and seeing as how EE actually has brick and morter stores and not just online sales BB price matched it. Granted we paid tax but we had it in time for Sundays football game
post #5417 of 8117
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

I definitely see your point though...and it's valid in many cases. It's just I cannot help from trying to do something to change that for those who come asking for such help. Really. Sometimes I feel guilty of I miss a personally directed request for help buried in a plethora of posts. (..and sometimes I even get yelled at for not responding...my loy in Life it seems.)

Brook no mistake...it's become an addiction.

Just ask my Wife.

Understood. Keep it coming bro. As far as I am concerned you post here for all the right reasons.
post #5418 of 8117
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Originally Posted by rcliff View Post

Finally got it mounted I'm pretty pleased with how it came out but still have to run the HDMI and power. MM, thanks so much for your advise and boy were you right about going with the RPA168. So simple and elegant. Glad I didn't by some cheap univeral mount. Oh, and that 8350. What a picture. Stunning!


Man that is a sharp looking unit and install. Funny thing is I have the same PJ on a shelf about 20' from the screen. That is testament to the placement of this unit. Very flexible. That is one of the reasons this unit is so good.
post #5419 of 8117
Jud64209,
If you have a Fry's store it's going for $999, this week only.
post #5420 of 8117
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

Jud64209,
If you have a Fry's store it's going for $999, this week only.

Actually $899 at my local frys. Makes me wonder if I should've bought this instead of paying almost double for the 8700ub. Oh well.
post #5421 of 8117
gee, 899? i wish i had a frys..
post #5422 of 8117
I have recently purchased the 8350 and am happy with the out of the box picture but I noticed when I project the test pattern that the lines on the big circle are very jagged. What does this mean? I don't see any color variations close up just jagged lines. Is this convergence?
post #5423 of 8117
I was thinking about replacing my lamp on my Mitsubishi HC6500. But with a price of $899 maybe it's better to just get the 8350. Lamp or new FP
post #5424 of 8117
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Originally Posted by ethanj View Post

Actually $899 at my local frys. Makes me wonder if I should've bought this instead of paying almost double for the 8700ub. Oh well.

Honestly I had never heard of Fry's until you mentioned it. I'm from Michigan and it looks like they don't have a presence here. I did check their website, but they don't offer shipping on the 8350, probably because it's on sale. Oh well

frogpond1: That sounds like a good idea to me. I might have to give that a try. Although I don't know if Best Buy will price match it for me since EE only has stores in NJ and we are in MI. But it's worth a try, thanks!
post #5425 of 8117
What was that I read awhile back about the lamp on this model being warrantied up to a few thousand hours?

Does that still stand and how does one go about claiming it? If you call Epson they just tell you the lamp has a 90 day warranty.
post #5426 of 8117
my 7 year old dlp died yesterday and am simply taking it to a goodwill place soon. my wife doesn't mind going the route of a projector. glad on that. is the 8350 the only good thing at this time with lens shift? i know the 3010 doesn't which sucks. it'll be my main viewing machine too. planning on going for 106" screen. not sure if i want to do grey or matte white elite cinetension. my walls are grey and the sloped ceiling above is a glossy white of sorts. i do have a window that i can cover with a fixed screen if my wife doesn't mind but that might not work. i know too that i would have to mount the elite screen on the wall and not the ceiling since it won't work on a sloped ceiling at all.

should i be fine with a 8350 or get something different? i don't have a big budget since i have to consider the screen and the epson is just right for the price. my fryes is out of stock too or else i'd be going down there today and pick it up for that awesome sale.
post #5427 of 8117
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Originally Posted by WormInfested View Post

should i be fine with a 8350 or get something different? i don't have a big budget since i have to consider the screen and the epson is just right for the price. my fryes is out of stock too or else i'd be going down there today and pick it up for that awesome sale.

IMOO big time yes. The 8350 is just an deceivingly awesome PJ worth well beyond it's lure price. I believe strongly that it's the point of diminishing returns for any PJ. Another words you can spent 2-3k or more and yes sure the improvements are there BUT they're incrementally smaller and negligible. . Did you see that you tube video I posted in the epson 3d thread from projectorpeople that has the 8350 right next to 8700? Practically identical. Get the 8350 with a nice screen and good hdmi cables and you'll have no regrets or remorse.
post #5428 of 8117
zoey67,
Do you think that 8350 is better than a Mitsubishi HC6500. I'm looking only at PQ between both FP.
post #5429 of 8117
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Good job so far ... looks solid (safe) and pretty. I think I like the idea of using the inexpensive parts from HomeDepot to finish it out ... strong and versatile.

What are your plans for the HDMI and power? Do you have attic access?

Thanks. Not quite sure what I'm going to do for the power yet. I do have attic access and wanted to just run everything through the cable plate below but I think running the power cord is not code compliant. I'm considering possibly using one of the powerbridge type power extenders which are code compliant but I might just have to spring for an electrician to come out.

post #5430 of 8117
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Originally Posted by WormInfested View Post

my 7 year old dlp died yesterday and am simply taking it to a goodwill place soon. my wife doesn't mind going the route of a projector. glad on that. is the 8350 the only good thing at this time with lens shift? i know the 3010 doesn't which sucks. it'll be my main viewing machine too. planning on going for 106" screen. not sure if i want to do grey or matte white elite cinetension. my walls are grey and the sloped ceiling above is a glossy white of sorts. i do have a window that i can cover with a fixed screen if my wife doesn't mind but that might not work. i know too that i would have to mount the elite screen on the wall and not the ceiling since it won't work on a sloped ceiling at all.

should i be fine with a 8350 or get something different? i don't have a big budget since i have to consider the screen and the epson is just right for the price. my fryes is out of stock too or else i'd be going down there today and pick it up for that awesome sale.

The 8350 is a great projector for the price but due to it being a 3LCD panel, it mat look soft compared to your DLP IF your viewing distance is less than 1.5x the screen size.
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