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post #6991 of 8634
I've had an Epson 6100 for three years now and I am starting to get the upgrade bug. I noticed that refurb 8700s are becoming available and I'm interested even if it's not that great of a deal. I have couple of qualms though. I do a fair amount of gaming and have been enjoying the mostly lag free nature of the 6100 and while the 8700 isn't terrible in that respect, it is definitely slower. Also, my projector is in a family room with off white walls and ceiling. I have pretty good light control, but I'm just not convinced I'd be able to see much of a difference with the 8700. I do plan on painting the walls a darker color, but the ceiling will never get darker than off white.

Will I see much of an improvement in black level/contrast going from the 6100 to the 8350? Anyone really wish they'd spent the extra money on the 8700?
post #6992 of 8634
domingo that sucks about your auto iris error, I saw some guys earlier in the thread had to get theirs replaced for that error.. one guy fixed it by unplugged the power cord for a while and plugging it back in.

So I just set up my very first receiver and 5.1 system. I also started using a 25 foot hdmi high speed + ethernet cable.. 22 awg. it's so thick and inflexible I"m scared for my hdmi port on the projector.. my room is small so I push the projector against the back wall and the new thick cable puts bending pressure on the port. so I just ordered this hdmi port saver.. I hope it fixes the issue.. just wanted to let others know about hdmi port savers.. I didn't even know about them until recently.

monoprice has ones like this with a short cable between the ends, they also have right angled port savers

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #6993 of 8634
Hi peeps,

Newbie here on the forum and to projectors. I was pretty much decided on getting this projector until I saw some posts about the dust blobs. But putting that aside Im also concerned about how long the lamp actually lasts rather then what Epson is rating it at.

How long are the lamps lasting for some of you that have already switched in new ones? And how many hours before any significant PQ degradation from lamp wear became visible?

At $300 a pop I sure hope these lamps last at least 3000 hours ?!?.

I was sure about getting one now not so much... answers would be of great help. Thanks!
post #6994 of 8634
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

what does it mean when u get the auto iris error telling u to call epson?

The first time I reset the power, the error went away and I called Epson to get it on record. A few weeks later it happened again, resetting the power again cleared it but when I called Epson they said to exchange it as it WILL happen again. I was able to show them my PJ was only a month or two old when it first happened and they sent me a new one for replacement. Calling in that first time to record the incident is what made that happen (along with my sales receipt of course).

Good luck, their service is refreshing these days.
post #6995 of 8634
Is it normal for a new 8350 lamp to run hotter than normal for the first 100 hours or so? I just installed a new lamp for the first time and this new one seems to be running hotter than the last one did.
post #6996 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Lindros88 View Post

Is it normal for a new 8350 lamp to run hotter than normal for the first 100 hours or so? I just installed a new lamp for the first time and this new one seems to be running hotter than the last one did.

Is it running hotter than the old bulb did during its first 100 hours or is it running hotter than the old bulb did at the end of its life? It makes some order of sense that as the bulb light output decreases, so does its heat output.
post #6997 of 8634
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post


The first time I reset the power, the error went away and I called Epson to get it on record. A few weeks later it happened again, resetting the power again cleared it but when I called Epson they said to exchange it as it WILL happen again. I was able to show them my PJ was only a month or two old when it first happened and they sent me a new one for replacement. Calling in that first time to record the incident is what made that happen (along with my sales receipt of course).

Good luck, their service is refreshing these days.

I had the iris error message about 20 hours in. Unplugged and plugged back in. Called Epson, they said when it happened again they'd replace it. Now 800 hours later, still hasn't happened again.
post #6998 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Thunder_God_Thor View Post

Hi peeps,

Newbie here on the forum and to projectors. I was pretty much decided on getting this projector until I saw some posts about the dust blobs. But putting that aside Im also concerned about how long the lamp actually lasts rather then what Epson is rating it at.

How long are the lamps lasting for some of you that have already switched in new ones? And how many hours before any significant PQ degradation from lamp wear became visible?

At $300 a pop I sure hope these lamps last at least 3000 hours ?!?.

I was sure about getting one now not so much... answers would be of great help. Thanks!


anyone ?
post #6999 of 8634
Your two questions could apply to any projector out there, not just the Epson.

They all get dust blobs (or not) which show as green blotches on dark background. They have been reported for many years, at least through the years that I have had 3 different projectors. Never had one myself.

Lamp life is a guesstimate, some get longer and some folks get shorter number of hours.

I think that you are over thinking the purchase, and you can't beat the price of the 8350 for what you get. It will be the best tv you have ever had.

Why not just hop on board and enjoy what a front projector can do to enhance your theater experience?

Shelly
post #7000 of 8634
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Originally Posted by shelly View Post

Your two questions could apply to any projector out there, not just the Epson.

They all get dust blobs (or not) which show as green blotches on dark background. They have been reported for many years, at least through the years that I have had 3 different projectors. Never had one myself.

Lamp life is a guesstimate, some get longer and some folks get shorter number of hours.

I think that you are over thinking the purchase, and you can't beat the price of the 8350 for what you get. It will be the best tv you have ever had.

Why not just hop on board and enjoy what a front projector can do to enhance your theater experience?

Shelly


Yeah thats true. I know all PJ's are susceptible to dust which is why that wasn't my main concern. It was more the lamp life.

See the thing is in our house is that with a full family of 6 people I know the PJ will get run at least 4-5 hours (pretty excessive I know) every day as this PJ is going in a living room area and really a replacement for a TV (the living room area ambient light can be controlled pretty well).

With that being said thats around 1825 hours in a year based on 5 hours a day. And it sounds like the lamp doesn't actually last the rated 4000 hours so at $300 for a lamp every year, lol, its quite a bit (assuming roughly a 2000 hour lamp life). 92" screen is the max we can go in the living space. Given the cost of the lamps Ive just been thinking if it would be better to just get a LCD or plasma in the 70" range and call it day and give up the extra 22 or so inches of screen.

If I get a projector the Epson 8350 is definitely the one we will get thats for sure. Its definitely a top performer for the $$$ and it would be nice to have a 16:9 92" screen to watch movies and PS3 gaming.


I guess I was just hoping to see if the actual lamp life is closer to the rated hours or pretty much half to better decide if this would be a good idea.


Thanks for the post though Shelly... Appreciate it.
post #7001 of 8634
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

Is it running hotter than the old bulb did during its first 100 hours or is it running hotter than the old bulb did at the end of its life? It makes some order of sense that as the bulb light output decreases, so does its heat output.

I'm certain that it's running hotter than the old bulb was in its first 100 hours. I'm wondering if this is an indication that something is wrong with my projector. The room conditions, projector location, and picture settings are all the same as they were with the first bulb.
post #7002 of 8634
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Originally Posted by jfried View Post

I had the iris error message about 20 hours in. Unplugged and plugged back in. Called Epson, they said when it happened again they'd replace it. Now 800 hours later, still hasn't happened again.

I have had this happen to me 3 times, I have about 300 hours total on my epson.

It seems to be related to clicking the power button multiple times, but that may be a fluke, I was able to recover every time just turning it off in the back and back on...

should i look into a replacement?
post #7003 of 8634
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

I have had this happen to me 3 times, I have about 300 hours total on my epson.

It seems to be related to clicking the power button multiple times, but that may be a fluke, I was able to recover every time just turning it off in the back and back on...

should i look into a replacement?

If you're happy with it otherwise, I might not bother. However, if you wanted to, Epson would replace it. It's really up to you.
post #7004 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Lemistral View Post

I've had an Epson 6100 for three years now and I am starting to get the upgrade bug. I noticed that refurb 8700s are becoming available and I'm interested even if it's not that great of a deal. I have couple of qualms though. I do a fair amount of gaming and have been enjoying the mostly lag free nature of the 6100 and while the 8700 isn't terrible in that respect, it is definitely slower. Also, my projector is in a family room with off white walls and ceiling. I have pretty good light control, but I'm just not convinced I'd be able to see much of a difference with the 8700. I do plan on painting the walls a darker color, but the ceiling will never get darker than off white.

Will I see much of an improvement in black level/contrast going from the 6100 to the 8350? Anyone really wish they'd spent the extra money on the 8700?

I went from the 6100 to the 8350. The 8350 is brighter with better contrast, and has more pop, IMO. I was quite happy with the difference. I didn't notice any difference with gaming.

On the other hand, the jump from the 6100 to the 8700 would be huge. MAJOR difference in contrast, much blacker blacks, plus you get the Frame Interpolation stuff. I would have spent the extra money if I had it, but I'm still happy with the 8350.
post #7005 of 8634
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Originally Posted by dgehred View Post

Can someone confirm that there is a 2 year warranty on these PJs?

-Dan

Yup i just received my home cinema 705hd and asked them if it had a 2 year on the bulb as well as the whole unit. They say it's 90 days on the bulb but when i asked them about it the rep said the 2 year covers the bulb too!
post #7006 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

I went from the 6100 to the 8350. The 8350 is brighter with better contrast, and has more pop, IMO. I was quite happy with the difference. I didn't notice any difference with gaming.

On the other hand, the jump from the 6100 to the 8700 would be huge. MAJOR difference in contrast, much blacker blacks, plus you get the Frame Interpolation stuff. I would have spent the extra money if I had it, but I'm still happy with the 8350.

^^^ Is there a replacement model in the works for the 8700UB ? It seems its technically no longer in production.

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Originally Posted by rberger3 View Post

Yup i just received my home cinema 705hd and asked them if it had a 2 year on the bulb as well as the whole unit. They say it's 90 days on the bulb but when i asked them about it the rep said the 2 year covers the bulb too!

^^^ Do any of you then which is it for the lamp warranty? If the lamp burns out within the two year warranty does Epson replace it or not?
post #7007 of 8634
Well I have another issue with this projector and this is my 3rd 8350! Now there is a blue dot about 3-4 inches in diameter right in the center of the image, VERY noticeable especially in dark scenes . I have no idea what this is, this is a brand new replacement pj with 70 hours on bulb. I have tried switching hdmi ports, unplugging ,etc... Nothing works and blue dot remains..bout to throw in the towel with Epson.
Help please!
post #7008 of 8634
Has anyone put 1000+ hours on this projector and it still works correctly? It seems almost everyone encounters a problem, myself included. I made it to around 400 hours before a bad dust ball appeared. I currently have 83 hours on the replacement and all is good so far but I know something will go wrong eventually.
post #7009 of 8634
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Has anyone put 1000+ hours on this projector and it still works correctly? It seems almost everyone encounters a problem, myself included. I made it to around 400 hours before a bad dust ball appeared. I currently have 83 hours on the replacement and all is good so far but I know something will go wrong eventually.

I've had one going.... Last I checked (couple weeks back) I was at 2200 hrs. on the original lamp, running eco mode exclusively.

I minimize cycling to keep the lamp happy. It seemed a little dim at this point, so I've swapped it out and have the original as a stand-by. When I did the change, I seem to have kicked up some debris so there are now a couple small, almost negligible "blob" spots. They weren't there before. Mea culpa.

Not that it's perfect... it's my third one after an early round of swaps due to convergence and uniformity issues. This one makes a grindy sound at start up as a filter or something does whatever it does when powered up. The fan is a little louder but not objectionable. It looks good on the screen, though, so I don't want to spin the wheel again, if you know what I mean!
post #7010 of 8634
What color are your walls? I have complete dark room no light with black ceiling and dark brown walls and I get a ton of light reflecting onto the ceiling and walls around the screen...
post #7011 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Nimbus2012 View Post

What color are your walls? I have complete dark room no light with black ceiling and dark brown walls and I get a ton of light reflecting onto the ceiling and walls around the screen...

did you use flat paint or some kind of sheen/satin/gloss?
post #7012 of 8634
Anyone here upgrade from a Mitsubishi HC1500? If so please post your upgrade experience.
post #7013 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Thunder_God_Thor View Post

Hi peeps,

Newbie here on the forum and to projectors. I was pretty much decided on getting this projector until I saw some posts about the dust blobs. But putting that aside Im also concerned about how long the lamp actually lasts rather then what Epson is rating it at.

The lamp will last forever because you'll be getting a new projector every few months because of the dust blobs. I'm on my third in a littler over a year, and I have the beginnings of dust blobs again.

Awesome projector, though. And Epson is has great service--I just wish they would figure out the solution.
post #7014 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

As many as it takes for you to be 100% satisfied for the full length of your 2 year warranty.

...and that is FAR from shameful. Very, VERY few (almost none) companies have the service Epson has. Most companies would give you the runaround, and wouldn't even consider sending you a replacement more than once.

I second this. It's the reason I went with Epson. I've used many products from them, and their level of service requires my loyalty. They are, by far, the best service oriented company for the electronic consumer.
post #7015 of 8634
Thanks for information and customer service from EPSON. I ordered 8350 and waiting to delivery on next week.

--cheers
post #7016 of 8634
Used flat black on ceiling and a darker beige color on walls but seems like the light reflects big time onto the first 3 feet of ceiling and walls coming off the screen. Keep seeing pics posted of completely dark rooms with just the picture from projector but no reflections...
post #7017 of 8634
I use the 8350 as my main TV in a 1 bed apartment with a decent amount of ambient lighting so it's generally on Dynamic mode unless it's night time with dim to no lighting... i've got about 1500 hours on it thus far and it seems as though it's losing it's brightness, although it still looks awesome... for those who use dynamic more than 70% of the time, how long have you waited until swaping in a new bulb? Also, where's the best place to pick up a replacement at a good price? Thanks!
post #7018 of 8634
watched HUGO the other night and all i have to say is WOW
post #7019 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Nimbus2012 View Post

Used flat black on ceiling and a darker beige color on walls but seems like the light reflects big time onto the first 3 feet of ceiling and walls coming off the screen. Keep seeing pics posted of completely dark rooms with just the picture from projector but no reflections...

Could it be the sheen of the paint you used? I used a dark blue in eggshell and get a little bit of reflection. Many people use matt which would have the least amount of reflection.
post #7020 of 8634
Paint isn't so great for light control. It's generally "flat" or "gloss." Flat just scatters light. Gloss reflects it. They don't kill it, that's to say absorb it.

Best thing to eat the light rather than re-direct it (at a reasonable cost) is black velvet. Not velveteen... velvet. Look up Sy Fabrics and "triple plush velvet." Generally speaking, a good velvet will have one direction where it is highly light-absorbent and is minimally reflective.

It also presents the opportunity to use extreme light control in multi-function rooms. If you'd rather read than submerge into a movie! High-performance treatments can be removed and replaced at will if you frame it up in screen frames or other stand-alone methods.
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