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post #7441 of 8636
My Epson 8350 was working fine until this weekend. I am seeing what looks like a perfectly round faint green light - it looks almost like a green flashlight light beam. I only see it when the projector picture is all black but I do not see it when viewing content. It is located in the upper right hand corner. Any ideas to what this may be?
post #7442 of 8636
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Originally Posted by mpkid123 View Post

My Epson 8350 was working fine until this weekend. I am seeing what looks like a perfectly round faint green light - it looks almost like a green flashlight light beam. I only see it when the projector picture is all black but I do not see it when viewing content. It is located in the upper right hand corner. Any ideas to what this may be?

dust blob?
post #7443 of 8636
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Originally Posted by sschantz View Post

So I cut the chord thus having to retunr my cable box that was hooked up to my Epson 8350. Has anyone purchased an off air type receiver device to get basic channels? Would still love to watch some real time Football and ABC/NBC....
Thanks in advance!

We cut the cord about a year ago. We use the Channel master CM=7000PAL. There are a couple options for OTA DVR's out there.
post #7444 of 8636
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Originally Posted by mpkid123 View Post

My Epson 8350 was working fine until this weekend. I am seeing what looks like a perfectly round faint green light - it looks almost like a green flashlight light beam. I only see it when the projector picture is all black but I do not see it when viewing content. It is located in the upper right hand corner. Any ideas to what this may be?

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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

dust blob?

If it is a "dust blob", you should be able to use the focus to make it sharper in appearance. That will help determine it's something actually in the assembly, or something wrong with the optics/panels.

Some discussion on cleaning it. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1280137/the-offical-epson-8350-owners-thread/3300
post #7445 of 8636
Thanks! I will try that tonight. I am concerned that it may not be a dust blob because it is perfectly round.
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Hey guys I usually don't post but lurk on this site but I'm kind on the fence. I've been looking at the 8350 for a while and was actually waiting for the replacement model that never came at cedia 12. This projector pretty much fit the bill for me (has lens shift) but it's almost 2yrs old and I don't want to buy and then all of a sudden a replacement comes out that's better. I can either wait it out and use my 58"'plasma for now or just buy it at best buy for 1170 3yrs no interest.
post #7447 of 8636
The Epson 3010 (and now 3020) was the closest thing to an Epson 8350 replacement. Due to the push in 3D, it's doubtful (but not impossible) they will have a DIRECT non-3D replacement to the Epson 8350 ever again.
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I was going to go with the 3020 but there's no lens shift and i don't want spend another grand just to get it. :/ I don't necessarily need 3D but wouldn't mind having it.
post #7449 of 8636
I just experienced the first problem with my 8350 last night and I'm not at all happy! mad.gif

I was watching Monday Night Football last night and my projector stopped showing what apparently was happening live. I don't know how else to explain it. It happened on the last play of the game. The refs called a touchdown, but my projector clearly showed an interception. How can a projector not display what actually happened? My 8350 is still under warranty, do you think Epson will replace it?
post #7450 of 8636
Oh man, you totally got me with that one.

I just ordered my Epson 8350 yesterday and I am paranoid!

Anyhoo, as I said, I am waiting for my projector and just wondering are there any first steps I should take when setting it up?
I saw the adjustments on the review at projectorcentral are there any other burn-in procedures or anything I need to be concerned with?

Happy to finally bump up to 1080P in my psuedo-man-cave.
post #7451 of 8636
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Originally Posted by curtlots View Post

I just experienced the first problem with my 8350 last night and I'm not at all happy! mad.gif
I was watching Monday Night Football last night and my projector stopped showing what apparently was happening live. I don't know how else to explain it. It happened on the last play of the game. The refs called a touchdown, but my projector clearly showed an interception. How can a projector not display what actually happened? My 8350 is still under warranty, do you think Epson will replace it?

Haha, nice. My Epson had the same exact problem.

Seriously, is it really about money at this point? It has to be all about power and not wanting to swallow pride. I'd be ticked if I were a Packers fan.
post #7452 of 8636
Hey everyone,
Long time member. long time lurker finally decided to make a post to see if any of you can help.

I am the proud owner of an 8350 which I use almost exclusively for gaming (xbox and rarely for ps3).
It is on a stand in the back of the room about 12' from my screen. I have a 120" screen.

I have tested this so many times I'm about to pull my hair out.

Problem:
1/2 the time when the projector completes its power on process it will fill 100% of the screen.
1/2 of the time the projector will leave about 12" on both sides.

It doesn't matter if I power on the projector before the xbox, xbox before the projector, what cable I use, how many live chickens I sacrifice.... sometimes it's full like it should be, sometimes I get the damn sidebars.

I've tried to search and I get nothing. Since I'm using HDMI my aspect is of course locked.
Please... for the love of God.. someone help me.

PS: Just to clarify, this is all happening in the absence of content. This is not a format issue. Sometimes when I turn on the projector I get a 100% filled blue screen (which makes me super happy), sometimes I get a blue screen that the top and bottom are off the screen and I have to back off the zoom to get top and bottom back in the frame... which leaves me with the black bars on the sides (makes me want to break and smash things).
Edited by Dolfin - 9/25/12 at 12:23pm
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I just wanted to throw out there that I bought my 8350 shortly after release in late 2010 I believe. I have 2460 hours on it, using it for a few hours every day watching netflix, as it is our only tv, and we cut the cord almost 2 years ago. Never had a problem. It has been getting dim for a while I'm sure, but it's finally at the point this week that that it got me out on the web to check prices on bulbs and hour life, etc. Seeing that I'm not close to the 4000h life range, and closing in my 2 years. Well, last night as I continued to watch my ever increasingly dim movie, there was a loud pop, and I wasn't watching anything anymore. I immediately called Epson, gave them serial number and hours on bulb, (2460), they made a case number and told me to call back the next day when advanced parts replacement would be open. I called back this afternoon and they authorized a free replacement that should be here by end of the week. Nice, easy, and painless process. I didn’t have to ask for a free replacement, let alone beg, it was simply offered. However, I did start my conversation off with, “I know you had problems with the original lamp manufacturer causing you to switch, and mine just went prematurely. To this they agreed, but interjected that most went between 500 and 700 hours. I said I was really careful with startup, shutdown and run times. Thought I would share.
post #7454 of 8636
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Originally Posted by curtlots View Post

I just experienced the first problem with my 8350 last night and I'm not at all happy! mad.gif
I was watching Monday Night Football last night and my projector stopped showing what apparently was happening live. I don't know how else to explain it. It happened on the last play of the game. The refs called a touchdown, but my projector clearly showed an interception. How can a projector not display what actually happened? My 8350 is still under warranty, do you think Epson will replace it?

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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Haha, nice. My Epson had the same exact problem.
Seriously, is it really about money at this point? It has to be all about power and not wanting to swallow pride. I'd be ticked if I were a Packers fan.

Actually I think your units are broken as my Epson CLEARLY showed a TD.....Don't know what all the fuss was about it clearly was the greatest reception in football history. Go 'Hawks. tongue.gif

J/K of course, but it is getting to the point of being detrimental to the game and being a distraction to what is supposed to be an "enjoyable" TV watching experience. It really is bad when the commentators spend more time talking about the officiating than they do about the game play on the field. In a way though I do feel bad for the replacement Refs as they were basically set up for failure from the gitgo. Nothing like trial by fire in front of a world wide audience. No pressure at all!

Regards,

RTROSE
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Actually I think your units are broken as my Epson CLEARLY showed a TD.....Don't know what all the fuss was about it clearly was the greatest reception in football history. Go 'Hawks. tongue.gif
J/K of course, but it is getting to the point of being detrimental to the game and being a distraction to what is supposed to be an "enjoyable" TV watching experience. It really is bad when the commentators spend more time talking about the officiating than they do about the game play on the field. In a way though I do feel bad for the replacement Refs as they were basically set up for failure from the gitgo. Nothing like trial by fire in front of a world wide audience. No pressure at all!
Regards,
RTROSE

Yes, we're calling it the immaculate touchception around these parts. biggrin.gif You make some good points though. Watching football this year has been a chore at best. Hopefully what happened Monday night will help to expedite a change.

Meanwhile, my 8350 has been performing flawlessly again. wink.gif

Stickboy2k, you may want to check post #7191 for some settings. I know it's not the best idea to use settings obtained by someone else, but you can only do so much with a calibration disc like WOW if you don't have the other equipment to do a full calibration. I'm using these settings, and they do match what I get from the WOW disc, at least for basic settings such as brightness, contrast, color saturation, and tint. I have no idea how to do the Gamma, RGB, and RGBCMY without spending a lot of money on more equipment, so I'm using the settings noted in post 7191 for these. Good luck with your purchase. Please let us know what you think, once you get it up and running.
post #7456 of 8636
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Originally Posted by pinoyrukus View Post

Hey guys I usually don't post but lurk on this site but I'm kind on the fence. I've been looking at the 8350 for a while and was actually waiting for the replacement model that never came at cedia 12. This projector pretty much fit the bill for me (has lens shift) but it's almost 2yrs old and I don't want to buy and then all of a sudden a replacement comes out that's better. I can either wait it out and use my 58"'plasma for now or just buy it at best buy for 1170 3yrs no interest.
Well if you do not care about 3D get the 8350 while you can. If you care about PQ then get a DLP in this price range. Convergence is the problem and DLP does not have this. I have a 8350 and my Acer 9500 kills that unit in just about every area. I can sell you my 8350 if you are interested. It has very low hours.

Edit: uhm let me explain myself before getting flamed. There is a distinct difference between DLP and 3LCD. My Epson has good converegence but like all 3LCD units the picture is softer. My DLP unit is very sharp and some folks do not like this because it exposes everything in the source material. I like that, some people do not and would rather watch a smoother image. Smoother is open to interpretation. Myself, I want to see how good the source is.
Edited by Mikes2cents - 9/26/12 at 6:45pm
post #7457 of 8636
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Originally Posted by Mikes2cents View Post

Well if you do not care about 3D get the 8350 while you can. If you care about PQ then get a DLP in this price range. Convergence is the problem and DLP does not have this. I have a 8350 and my Acer 9500 kills that unit in just about every area. I can sell you my 8350 if you are interested. It has very low hours.
Edit: uhm let me explain myself before getting flamed. There is a distinct difference between DLP and 3LCD. My Epson has good converegence but like all 3LCD units the picture is softer. My DLP unit is very sharp and some folks do not like this because it exposes everything in the source material. I like that, some people do not and would rather watch a smoother image. Smoother is open to interpretation. Myself, I want to see how good the source is.

Most likely I'm going to go with a 3LCD setup due to my room setup at my new house (projector will be off center on a wall unless I ceiling mount). I could of got the panny ar100u for 699 when they did that crazy markdown but it was in march and I didn't move into my house until a couple months ago mad.gif I'll just wait it out and see the 3020/3020e and see if i can just ceiling mount it (more work). The problem with me buying the 8350 right now is I don't want to pay for 2yr old technology/model.
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Originally Posted by curtlots View Post

Stickboy2k, you may want to check post #7191 for some settings. I know it's not the best idea to use settings obtained by someone else, but you can only do so much with a calibration disc like WOW if you don't have the other equipment to do a full calibration. I'm using these settings, and they do match what I get from the WOW disc, at least for basic settings such as brightness, contrast, color saturation, and tint. I have no idea how to do the Gamma, RGB, and RGBCMY without spending a lot of money on more equipment, so I'm using the settings noted in post 7191 for these. Good luck with your purchase. Please let us know what you think, once you get it up and running.

Thanks man,

First off when I saw the box and felt how heavy it was I thought they had mistakenly sent me the wrong projector. I wasn't expecting it to be so huge. smile.gif My little X1 is like a toy poodle compared to this thing.

I wasn't sure where I was going to put the projector, but then I realized the horizontal shift perfectly compensates for the placement I have chosen.

So I put the PS3 and the 8350 into the now "projector closet" and checked the settings. I put the settings offered in this thread and sort of combined them with the recommendations in the projector central review of this projector. Within a few moments I was very pleased. Projecting from around 20 feet and gettting a 120" picture.
Also cranked up Battlefield BC2 and wipeoutHD was impressed.

I was nervous about the comments made by some that the black levels were disappointing. I have mine in cinema mode and ECO and black levels are very good. Now I am going from an Infocus X1 to this so it looks GREAT to me. Black bars are visible, but not annoying. in dark scenes, I played a few in "Ninja Assassin" and thought that the darker scenes represented very well. Nearly as good as my plasma, Panny PZ85U.
I have not done any convergence tests. I may go through a calibration disc and check things out this weekend. I think I have a THX disc somewhere. I may not, though, because what I am seeing is so good and so pleasing that I may just build my world around it and be done.

This weekend I will set up the audio and primp up the media closet. Also will look for a new set of rears on the cheap. might lok at monoprice speakers.

Remaining questions:
I am using quite a bit of horizontal shift, but not seeing any picture quality issues. Should I be concerned about using Horizontal shift permenantly?

I will be putting this in a small closet with a receiver and a PS3. So I will be looking to rig up some kind of airflow system.

Lastly, DUST. Man, my basement is the most dust fre place in my house but I can see the little dust babies floating around when this thing is running. What do y'all do to prevent dust contamination? Good air filtration is so expensive...

So there, $849 for 1080P bliss and lightning speed gaming...I am happy.
post #7459 of 8636
is it better to minimize throw distance or the amount of zoom? I would have complete light control.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Maligx View Post

is it better to minimize throw distance or the amount of zoom? I would have complete light control.

Using no zoom and placing the PJ to within 12-14" of the minimum distance for the size image desired will give you the sharpest,brightest, highest resolution image possible. Minimizing the amount of H &V Lens Shift needed also assures the least dregradation of image properties.

BTW....."brighter" means being able to run the PJ on low lamp mode "always" and calibrate the Image for the maximum contrast possible.
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Using no zoom and placing the PJ to within 12-14" of the minimum distance for the size image desired will give you the sharpest,brightest, highest resolution image possible. Minimizing the amount of H &V Lens Shift needed also assures the least dregradation of image properties.
BTW....."brighter" means being able to run the PJ on low lamp mode "always" and calibrate the Image for the maximum contrast possible.

What is the optimum distance for 120" 16:9 with the 8350 ? Right now I have it at 16.5 ~ 17 feet away.
post #7462 of 8636
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Originally Posted by stickboy2k View Post

So there, $849 for 1080P bliss and lightning speed gaming...I am happy.

Was this a used price, or did you find a steal somewhere?
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Just to make sure I understand what you're saying, that means that mounting the 8350 at ~20ft from the screen (close to zero zoom) will result in a brighter picture than only mounting it ~12ft from the screen (closer to 1.7 zoom)? As a projector neophyte, this is very counter intuitive to me and the projector calculator I was using at projectorcentral.com indicates that closer is "better" for brightness so I want to make sure. Or are you speaking in absolute picture quality as opposed to pure lumens?
post #7464 of 8636
Hello everyone

Im new to AVS and home theater projectors, so Im at the early stages of research. Hopefully I can use the forum and post pictures of the process along the way. One thing is for sure, Im going w/ the EPSON 8350. However, the rest is not so easy. I have not decided on the screen as I feel I dont know too much yet. Please take a look at my thread and share some light, since you guys own the projector, are best qualified to state what works and what doesnt.
Thanks!Q
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post #7466 of 8636
Well, I have only had the projector for a couple days and already got a "Auto Iris" Error.
Went away when I unplugged and replugged the projector.

Any advice from the experts on this? Should I call them immediately or is this something that just happens once in a while and I should ignore it?
The projector runs awesome so I don't have any other issues.
post #7467 of 8636
Well,
I get Auto Iris error about 1 in 10 times, but am worried a replacement could be worse ( I have a good image) - so after nearly a year I am still waiting this out. If it gets worse in the next 6 months I will contact Epson.
post #7468 of 8636
You want to have the projector as close as possible to maximize brightness, though I don't know how noticeable of a difference it will be. I am in agreement with you that the concept of zoom is kind of confusing when dealing with projectors. When you have the projector as close as possible are you technically zooming in or zooming out? I also haven't done any experiments on this, I'm curious if positioning it closer or farther away and using lens shift has any impact on emphasizing/deemphasizing convergence issues.
post #7469 of 8636
Thread Starter 
srauly,

Convergence issues ate always excalibrated as screen size goes up, or the employment of excessive zoom increases the distance between pixels.

It a "resolution based" sort of thing and a obvious conclusion.
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Besides the true resolution (which is a fixed, hardware-based value), is there a "sweet spot" where there's a maximum depth-of-field (which equates to best center-to-corner focus uniformity) and minimal chromatic aberration (an optical-path phenomena affecting the color spectrum which looks like convergence problems)?
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