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post #7591 of 8634
Just pulled the trigger and purchased an Epson 8350 refurbished directly from Epson.ca!!! Very excited, can't wait for it to arrive. In the meantime, if anyone wants to let me know of anything I should check and how when the unit arrives (convergence, etc.) to make sure that it is in good working order, please feel free to post. Thank you all for the help on this forum in making my decision for this projector. I hope that I will be as pleased with it as everyone else seems to be.
post #7592 of 8634
Good moning all!

I purchased and recv'd my Epson 8350 last week - I've been very happy so far. smile.gifsmile.gif
This replaced an ancient Benq 8700 (720p) which died due to a bad power board. frown.gif

Configuration: I am using a Zector DVI switcher (DVS5.1) to feed the projector dishnetwork, (receiver VIP722 DVR-H) , OPPO DVD player (model OPDV971H) and HTPC (Asus M5G, Sandy 2600K and an old video card nvidia geforce 8600 GT). I could use the intel onboard video processor Intel HD 3000 but I didn't see any difference between it and the 8600 card.

So I have a few questions for all the great guru's here -

1. I am having blue ray playback problems trying to use either VLC or Windows Media players thru the computer (anyDVDHD installed), if I switch to a Sony BDP-S590 Blue Ray Player will I have HDCP problems due to the Zector switcher?


2. My other question may be even more of an HTPC question but I will ask it here anyway - when trying to get the projector to sync up with the computer I cannot use 60hz, only 1920x1080 50hz will work - picture seems good most of the time but I do get an occassional glitch. The DVI run from the zector is long - ~50FT.

Thanks much for any and all help!! smile.gif
post #7593 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post

Good moning all!
I purchased and recv'd my Epson 8350 last week - I've been very happy so far. smile.gifsmile.gif
This replaced an ancient Benq 8700 (720p) which died due to a bad power board. frown.gif
Configuration: I am using a Zector DVI switcher (DVS5.1) to feed the projector dishnetwork, (receiver VIP722 DVR-H) , OPPO DVD player (model OPDV971H) and HTPC (Asus M5G, Sandy 2600K and an old video card nvidia geforce 8600 GT). I could use the intel onboard video processor Intel HD 3000 but I didn't see any difference between it and the 8600 card.
So I have a few questions for all the great guru's here -
1. I am having blue ray playback problems trying to use either VLC or Windows Media players thru the computer (anyDVDHD installed), if I switch to a Sony BDP-S590 Blue Ray Player will I have HDCP problems due to the Zector switcher?
2. My other question may be even more of an HTPC question but I will ask it here anyway - when trying to get the projector to sync up with the computer I cannot use 60hz, only 1920x1080 50hz will work - picture seems good most of the time but I do get an occassional glitch. The DVI run from the zector is long - ~50FT.
Thanks much for any and all help!! smile.gif

 

I guess you have a reason to use Zector switch and DVI instead of HDMI cables and an AVR to do the switching?

 

I like my newer AMD-HDMI card over my old 8600gts-DVI. Check out XBMC(dxva2)  and my config.

 

Connect HTPC directly to projector (no switch) to test. Would also be good to test with a perfect 1080p device like a real BluRay player. Find out what works and where problems follow ... and go from there.

post #7594 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

I guess you have a reason to use Zector switch and DVI instead of HDMI cables and an AVR to do the switching?

I like my newer AMD-HDMI card over my old 8600gts-DVI. Check out XBMC(dxva2)  and my config.

Connect HTPC directly to projector (no switch) to test. Would also be good to test with a perfect 1080p device like a real BluRay player. Find out what works and where problems follow ... and go from there.

Thanks!

Looks like neither the zector switch nor the 50ft dvi cable will carry the sony bdp-s590 signal frown.gif

What is the wireless hdmi solution everyone is using?
The thought is toslink from player to receiver and then wireless HDMI from the player to the projector?

Also anyone have an idea why I can get the projector to only sync up with the computer at 50hz?
post #7595 of 8634
Not sure anyone here is collecting this sort of data anymore, but here's my stats for my first bulb failure:

Hours: ~2600
Time: 21 months after purchase (original bulb)
Mode: ~15% Cinema, 50% Natural, 20% Living Room, 15% Dynamic
(~300 ft altitude)

I'm sure the lamp has been dimming steadily for many months (since day 1?), but I hadn't actively noticed it until last night, when it was very noticeably dim. This morning, my wife called to say it had died.

Granted this is quite awhile past many 'premature' failures here, but I called Epson to see if I was eligible for their well-known generous warranty replacement. Seems so -- ought to have one in 2-7 business days. Just wow. Glad I bought this unit.
post #7596 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by azdude View Post

Not sure anyone here is collecting this sort of data anymore, but here's my stats for my first bulb failure:
Hours: ~2600
Time: 21 months after purchase (original bulb)
Mode: ~15% Cinema, 50% Natural, 20% Living Room, 15% Dynamic
(~300 ft altitude)
I'm sure the lamp has been dimming steadily for many months (since day 1?), but I hadn't actively noticed it until last night, when it was very noticeably dim. This morning, my wife called to say it had died.
Granted this is quite awhile past many 'premature' failures here, but I called Epson to see if I was eligible for their well-known generous warranty replacement. Seems so -- ought to have one in 2-7 business days. Just wow. Glad I bought this unit.

Good to know, and WOW on Epson replacing it. I have just about 100hrs on mine now and hopefully thats a call I will not have to make for quite sometime.
post #7597 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post


Thanks!
Looks like neither the zector switch nor the 50ft dvi cable will carry the sony bdp-s590 signal frown.gif
What is the wireless hdmi solution everyone is using?
The thought is toslink from player to receiver and then wireless HDMI from the player to the projector?
Also anyone have an idea why I can get the projector to only sync up with the computer at 50hz?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXyhKMadKhc

 

Is something set to PAL (50 hz) ?

 

No toslink. Just HDMI cables everythere...

 

I still say a heavy gauge wire is better:

 

Final 57ft HDMI chain to Epson 8350...
Onkyo TX-sr607 7.2 HDMI AVR
2ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net
4X2 True Matrix HDMI 1.3a Powered Switch w/ Remote (Rev. 3.0) (MonoPrice # 5312)
45ft 22AWG CL2 Standard Speed w/ Ethernet HDMI Cable
HDMI Active Equalizer Extender Repeater (MonoPrice # 2849)
12ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net
Epson Home Cinema 8350 Projector
18 ft. from wall/screen = (96" or 8ft diag. image)

post #7598 of 8634
Maybe a dumb question. I have the epson setup in a complete dark room. Projecting onto an Visual Apex screen. Anyone have good calibration numbers for this setup? I tried a calibration disc a few days ago but when doing the brightness setting I could not see that much of a difference. I want to see if I am close to what it should be.
post #7599 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXyhKMadKhc

Is something set to PAL (50 hz) ?

No toslink. Just HDMI cables everythere...

I still say a heavy gauge wire is better:

Final 57ft HDMI chain to Epson 8350...

Onkyo TX-sr607 7.2 HDMI AVR

2ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net

4X2 True Matrix HDMI 1.3a Powered Switch w/ Remote (Rev. 3.0) (MonoPrice # 5312)

45ft 22AWG CL2 Standard Speed w/ Ethernet HDMI Cable

HDMI Active Equalizer Extender Repeater (MonoPrice # 2849)

12ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net

Epson Home Cinema 8350 Projector

18 ft. from wall/screen = (96" or 8ft diag. image)

Nothing set to pal that I can think of.
dishnetwork 1080p and oppo 1080i seems to work fine at 60hz but computer resolution only works at 1080p 50hz - odd problem? rolleyes.gif
post #7600 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post


Nothing set to pal that I can think of.
dishnetwork 1080p and oppo 1080i seems to work fine at 60hz but computer resolution only works at 1080p 50hz - odd problem? rolleyes.gif

First, this isn't an 8350 or projector problem, so you should seek answers in HTPC forum (or likely nVidia forum). You just got lucky with me knowing HTPC and used an 8600gts years ago.

 

It's likely a problem with PC, 8600, or it's drivers. My ATI-AMD card allows you to force HD-TV paramaters (if EDID info is wacky). A nice AMD 5xxx or 6xxx card is pretty cheap. It will also have a real (full featured) HDMI port on it. After using both, I have found AMD cards much better for HTPC (features, hardware, and software drivers/control panel).

 

And I fought it a long time (so I could use older-spec machine for HTPC) ... but I've found that Win7 is better for HTPC.

post #7601 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

First, this isn't an 8350 or projector problem, so you should seek answers in HTPC forum (or likely nVidia forum). You just got lucky with me knowing HTPC and used an 8600gts years ago.

It's likely a problem with PC, 8600, or it's drivers. My ATI-AMD card allows you to force HD-TV paramaters (if EDID info is wacky). A nice AMD 5xxx or 6xxx card is pretty cheap. It will also have a real (full featured) HDMI port on it. After using both, I have found AMD cards much better for HTPC (features, hardware, and software drivers/control panel).

And I fought it a long time (so I could use older-spec machine for HTPC) ... but I've found that Win7 is better for HTPC.

Agree, since 60hz is no problem for dish or oppo - this is probably an htpc problem.

One other projector question - am i giving up anything image quality wise or am I placing any extra stress on the projector by running at 50hz?

Thanks again for you help! smile.gifsmile.gif
post #7602 of 8634



Oh Season 1 of game of thrones has never looked so good.. 92" Greywolf II ~10 feet away

Link to my calibration image http://i7.minus.com/ibsUcYZu3Zzkxl.png and explanation image http://i2.minus.com/iqQp2SJhL7nFT.png . Got tired of looking for a good one. Still could use an update.

Anyone know if putting my unit in high altitude mode is going to be harmful if I am say... 160ft above sea-level. My best guess is it will just baby the bulb more and put up the fan which I have no issue with.
post #7603 of 8634
Those results look fantastic to me. That's a great test pattern, I don't recognize it from any disc I have used, what is it from?
post #7604 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by curtlots View Post

Those results look fantastic to me. That's a great test pattern, I don't recognize it from any disc I have used, what is it from?

I was wondering that also ...

 

I found these:

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=1080p+test+card&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=

post #7605 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by azdude View Post

Not sure anyone here is collecting this sort of data anymore, but here's my stats for my first bulb failure:
Hours: ~2600
Time: 21 months after purchase (original bulb)
Mode: ~15% Cinema, 50% Natural, 20% Living Room, 15% Dynamic
(~300 ft altitude)
I'm sure the lamp has been dimming steadily for many months (since day 1?), but I hadn't actively noticed it until last night, when it was very noticeably dim. This morning, my wife called to say it had died.
Granted this is quite awhile past many 'premature' failures here, but I called Epson to see if I was eligible for their well-known generous warranty replacement. Seems so -- ought to have one in 2-7 business days. Just wow. Glad I bought this unit.

I have asked this before, but if you have a lamp go out, how do you know all of these stats, or do you just check them regularly?
post #7606 of 8634
Projector Mounting with Sanus VMPR1 Tilt & Swivel Ceiling Projector Mount

All:
I would like to give back to the AVSCommunity by sharing the pics of my 8350 mounted with a Sanus VMPR1. I tried to find pics earlier on how to screw in the arms of the mount (before purchasing it), but I could not. I hope this post will help someone out.


1. Attaching the arms


2. Making sure the arms are level before hanging the epson


3. Final placement with surge protector and HDMI cable and the white covers.




Cheers!
Edited by sksahai - 12/7/12 at 9:37pm
post #7607 of 8634
I have had my 8350 for a couple of months now and I have never experienced any issues with it until tonight. While watching a movie the picture kind of flashed to a full screen of "snow" and then the picture came back to normal. About an hour later it did the same thing as well as going to a completely black screen before returning to normal. I have an oppo 83 and an onkyo 605 with the HDMI running from the onkyo. Could it be some sort of hand shake issue. If so, why is it just showing up now? HDMI length is approx 25 feet. The 8350 replaced an HD70 Optoma. I never experienced this kind of issue with it. Any help would be appreciated.
post #7608 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by buc18 View Post

I have had my 8350 for a couple of months now and I have never experienced any issues with it until tonight. While watching a movie the picture kind of flashed to a full screen of "snow" and then the picture came back to normal. About an hour later it did the same thing as well as going to a completely black screen before returning to normal. I have an oppo 83 and an onkyo 605 with the HDMI running from the onkyo. Could it be some sort of hand shake issue. If so, why is it just showing up now? HDMI length is approx 25 feet. The 8350 replaced an HD70 Optoma. I never experienced this kind of issue with it. Any help would be appreciated.

Re-seat all your HDMI cables.

 

Are you running gear on a UPS or APC? Is there a chance the power flickered or browned-out?

 

Lots of people seem to have problems with HDMI/video processor boards over-heating on Onkyo ... especially if you don't run a fan on it. It can only take that heat for so many years.

post #7609 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Re-seat all your HDMI cables.

Are you running gear on a UPS or APC? Is there a chance the power flickered or browned-out?

Lots of people seem to have problems with HDMI/video processor boards over-heating on Onkyo ... especially if you don't run a fan on it. It can only take that heat for so many years.

I will try re-seating my cables. So are you thinking this is not an issue with my new 8350 but with another component (the Onkyo) ? I have had this receiver for 3 or 4 years.
post #7610 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by buc18 View Post

I have had my 8350 for a couple of months now and I have never experienced any issues with it until tonight. While watching a movie the picture kind of flashed to a full screen of "snow" and then the picture came back to normal. About an hour later it did the same thing as well as going to a completely black screen before returning to normal. I have an oppo 83 and an onkyo 605 with the HDMI running from the onkyo. Could it be some sort of hand shake issue. If so, why is it just showing up now? HDMI length is approx 25 feet. The 8350 replaced an HD70 Optoma. I never experienced this kind of issue with it. Any help would be appreciated.

Wow! Exact same thing happened to me last night! 2 episodes of snow just as described while watching netflix. I have a Denon 3312c with about 30+ feet of HDMI cable. Our room was warmer than usual with 9 kids over for a marathon of netflix watching, but the room temp was no more than 78 degrees as far as I can tell. I have no idea what the temp on the projector or receiver was My 8350 is also new/refurbished as of October.
post #7611 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by buc18 View Post


I will try re-seating my cables. So are you thinking this is not an issue with my new 8350 but with another component (the Onkyo) ? I have had this receiver for 3 or 4 years.

I can't tell from here. What I do think is you need to trouble-shoot it. Eliminate and move devices and see where the problem follows.

 

Like connect Oppo to 8350 without Onkyo... that kind of thing. Good luck.


Edited by Tesla1856 - 12/8/12 at 10:19pm
post #7612 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by sksahai View Post

Wow! Exact same thing happened to me last night! 2 episodes of snow just as described while watching netflix. I have a Denon 3312c with about 30+ feet of HDMI cable. Our room was warmer than usual with 9 kids over for a marathon of netflix watching, but the room temp was no more than 78 degrees as far as I can tell. I have no idea what the temp on the projector or receiver was My 8350 is also new/refurbished as of October.

I don't think mine was a heat related issue because the first time it happened was only 6 minutes into the movie so the receiver and projector had only been on 10 minutes max. I know the Onkyo does run hot though.
post #7613 of 8634
Watched a movie tonight and experienced no issues whatsoever. The only thing I did was re-seat HDMI connections. Don't know if that really made any difference at all. But it was nice watching a movie from beginning to end without any problems.
post #7614 of 8634
I think you are correct, not a heat issue, nor a projector issue. I tried to watch a movie using my WDTV Live SMP on netflix and was having the same issues last night also (every 30 seconds or so). I switched to the DVD player and used the netfix option with no issues (was causing the snowing 2 nights ago). I did notice that whnever the snow picture flaw happened, the receiver's panel showed lack of signal from the WDTV Live. I need to reseat the HDMI cords and try again.

The projector was making noises during the snow flaw/cut out due to the autoiris engaging
post #7615 of 8634
I have to give shout out to all you 8350 owners and your advice. I read about the generous bulb replacement behavior from EPSON (they check your serial # of course) and called mine in and got a replacement.

- I have 1482hrs. on my original bulb
- I've used my unit fairly actively over the past 1.5 years.
- Now it's so dim now that it's not enjoyable even in a pitch dark room setting.

I also went ahead and called in the Best Buy extended warranty claim which got me the one-time bulb replacement there as well. I never buy extended warranties but knowing what I read from AVSForum, I took a chance knowing bulb life was going to be way shorter, the warranty purchase covered the cost of the bulb so I suppose I'm even. Calling EPSON got me an extra bulb so big thanks!!!
post #7616 of 8634
I am looking to buy the 8350 this week. I have a 17Wx24D room that I have a 13' viewing distance and want a 106-120" screen. This is in a walk out basement that has fully dimming recessed lighting. Gray walls, dark gray ceiling and windows on the back wall with blinds. I am looking at screens and what to see what you guys recommend so I can watch football during the day with natural ambient lighting, as well as great movie quality at night. I dont want to spend a ton on the screen. I am looking at fixed frame setups. I see Elite, Elitech (whats the difference?), and VA screens as well. I am leaning towards the gray Elitech for $290 on amazon. It seems gray is best for brighter environments. Any input would be great. Thanks.
post #7617 of 8634
How does this projector compare to the newer TW-5910 if we are talking 2D only? I know 8350 (called TW3200 here) got lens shift, but I don't need that in my setup, so that shoudn't be a factor

Would it be worth it to spend the extra bit of money for a 5910 over a 8350 if we only consider 2D picture quality (disregard 3D completely)?
post #7618 of 8634
Just thought I'd post regarding the deal I just picked up. I looked up all the local(within 50 miles) Best Buys websites and looked under there open box items. I ran across 2 Epson 8350's and immediately called. The first store said it was a returned item, checked out by Geek squad and everything was good. They wanted $1,079 for it. Not much of a discount. I called the next store and they said it was just opened to show a potential buyer its size and it was never used. They wanted $799. I quickly jumped in my car and drove 33 miles to pick it up. At that price, I purchased Best Buys 4 yr extended warranty for $179. Once I got home with it, I hooked up my laptop to it for a quik image and it was absolutely crystal right out of the box. I have another few weeks till my HT is ready for it but I could not pass up a deal like that. I feel this was an excellent deal and thought I'd share that with all of you. Many more deals out there Im sure.
post #7619 of 8634
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoramz View Post

Just thought I'd post regarding the deal I just picked up. I looked up all the local(within 50 miles) Best Buys websites and looked under there open box items. I ran across 2 Epson 8350's and immediately called. The first store said it was a returned item, checked out by Geek squad and everything was good. They wanted $1,079 for it. Not much of a discount. I called the next store and they said it was just opened to show a potential buyer its size and it was never used. They wanted $799. I quickly jumped in my car and drove 33 miles to pick it up. At that price, I purchased Best Buys 4 yr extended warranty for $179. Once I got home with it, I hooked up my laptop to it for a quik image and it was absolutely crystal right out of the box. I have another few weeks till my HT is ready for it but I could not pass up a deal like that. I feel this was an excellent deal and thought I'd share that with all of you. Many more deals out there Im sure.

Well, I just had Best Buy match Amazon's current price so I have one in my hands now. We'll see how long I can go before opening it in the hopes the price drops to $999 soon.
post #7620 of 8634
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Originally Posted by curtlots View Post

Those results look fantastic to me. That's a great test pattern, I don't recognize it from any disc I have used, what is it from?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

I was wondering that also ...

I made it. I have always tried to find useful patterns and my Photo skills are just high enough to make my own patterns. I may make an updated one with color gamma in it too.

http://i7.minus.com/ibsUcYZu3Zzkxl.png
http://i2.minus.com/iqQp2SJhL7nFT.png
http://i5.minus.com/iB1iHGt4hycFs.png

View all at 1:1 zoom

EDIT.. Third time asking. What does High Altitude mode do. I have it enabled even though I am NOT high Altitude.
Edited by F12Bwth - 12/15/12 at 2:36pm
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