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post #8071 of 8634
Well i found out, that in my case the 1px misconvergence on red is caused by lensshift ... if i shift up it is ok, if i shift down it is messed up.
post #8072 of 8634
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Originally Posted by IRJ View Post

I am looking at an 8350 for my nxt projector and this thread has invaluable help. Just so I can do all my due diligence what are the rivals to this projector In terms of picture and build quality and priced under $1,500\ and why have users here gone with the 8350? Thanks.

What Mississippi said, there are a couple that come up first, Benq 1070, shorter throw 3D DLP around $900 on sale with limited placement flexibility, and the Epson 8350 2D lcd with great placement flexibility with it's lens shift range. Some breakdowns, http://www.avsforum.com/t/1391476/coderguys-top-projector-picks The Viewsonic pro8200 might be a consideration at around $700, 2D DLP if you just can't spend anymore.
post #8073 of 8634
I cannot think of anything wrong with our pj. Images are crisp, colors are dark, If you care of anamorphic lense I have yet to find the solution or universal mount that would fit at a not so costly price. I love this pj! It's very quet. My first pj was a epson705hd it did its job but it was terribly loud. I cannot even tell this thing is on.
Out of the box you will already see crisp images but if you have OCD like most of us than tweaking you will be doing. From what I hear the room plays a whole lot in the numbers set for colors so a universal set of values aren't good. So one say If I haven't bought the p5020 by then I'd get someone to ISf calibrate my Pj. It's a bummer there isn't 3Dmost people can do without but I want to experience the hype and watch it on my 100" screen. Cross fingers ill save for it.
Good luck I'm sure you will love this projector nothing comes close as to picture, quietness, clarity etc. I've tried them all! This is the one to get!
post #8074 of 8634
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

How far from the screen will you be sitting? The white 1.0 will give you a slightly brighter image since your going to such a large screen. There are several distance calculators out there that can give you a real screen size to distance estimate but it sounds like you might get better all around results sticking around 130" or so inches unless you are planning on going all the way back 21' with your seats.

Very good point... seating from 15ft... I am already pushed the limits if eye/neck comfort... however I spend more time behind the computer desk... that is a good 19ft back... x-large screen makes for some dramatic FPS's & Forza! Thanks dolphinc!



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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Try plugging in your numbers in this calc, made by one of AVS's gurus. http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ You'll be able to get some distance/screen info and also see the difference in how brightness will be affected as well. Mounted at the closest, 14' 11" away, onto a 150" and using a 1.3 gain screen, looks like you'll still need to run the pj in high lamp mode and still only get around 13fl's on a new bulb, dropping down to about 10fl's after around 500 hrs on the bulb? 13.3' feet away on a 133" 1.3 gain screen might be better, getting you around 13fl's in low lamp mode and around 17fl's in high mode.

Generally, closer the pj is mounted to the screen, the brighter the image, and further away will usually equal to better contrast, however the brightness will suffer some especially when your trying to light up a screen of 150". With the lens shift capabilities of the pj, you shouldn't need to mount it as far down as 3'. You should be able to mount it just about as close to the ceiling as you want.

I used this one as well, Very helpful! thank you jnabq! I am still trying to learn all the details. Yes... the more I look at it, the more 130" range looks like best trade-off between x-large size and PQ.



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Originally Posted by horseflesh View Post

I have a 14 ft wide room that is about 20 ft deep, but my ceiling is only 8 ft. My 8350 is about 14 ft from a 135" screen. The bottom of the screen is about 22" from the floor. That is not a lot of space.... you could fit a 150" wide screen, but you would not have much space under the screen for components. That may not matter in your room, it does in mine. I had to find a very low table else my 8" tall center channel would be in the image. Your room is taller than mine though, which will help.

Also, you will not need to drop the PJ 3 feet from the ceiling. Mine is about 6" down, the absolute minimum the mount allows, and has PLENTY of lens shift to do the job. Of course, it is a good idea to make the PJ as centered as you can, since the horizontal/vertical shift amounts are tied together.

If it helps, I have a cheap ebay Antra screen with 1.1 gain, and in a light-controlled room the Epson's dimmer Cinema mode, with the dim Eco lamp setting, still makes for a nice picture at 135".

Hope this helps.

Yes, very helpful comparison... thank you horseflesh! Right now I have the picture top out maybe 6" from the ceiling... that leaves me about 32" from floor to picture... add a fixed frame and that will be even bigger. Your right on about the center channel... my center is almost 24" including stand.



so far 903 hours on original bulb... first bulb on first projector, so I have no PJ experience... but the picture is outstanding. purchased from BB on sale at a great price... what a bargain with respect to picture size/quality/$$$. I am really impressed by PQ/size and ease of use so far.

Thanks again to everyone that took a few minutes to help out!
post #8075 of 8634
Wat is the best screen to use with this projector. I am just starting to read up on PJ and I want between a 100" to 120".
Allen
post #8076 of 8634
Asking for the "best screen" is like asking what the "best TV" is. It depends on your needs and budget.

For me, the best screen was a cheap eBay retractable unit. Perhaps I am spoiled by NOT knowing what a multi-thousand dollar screen looks like, but I am happy with it.
post #8077 of 8634
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Originally Posted by horseflesh View Post

Asking for the "best screen" is like asking what the "best TV" is. It depends on your needs and budget.

For me, the best screen was a cheap eBay retractable unit. Perhaps I am spoiled by NOT knowing what a multi-thousand dollar screen looks like, but I am happy with it.

+1

Same here!

Ed
post #8078 of 8634
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Originally Posted by horseflesh View Post

Asking for the "best screen" is like asking what the "best TV" is. It depends on your needs and budget.

For me, the best screen was a cheap eBay retractable unit. Perhaps I am spoiled by NOT knowing what a multi-thousand dollar screen looks like, but I am happy with it.

Well I know nothing about screens so I thought I would ask. I am looking for the cheapest screen that will give me the best 2d from this projector. It will be a fix screen mounted on the wall. I just have no idear what grain or anything to go with.
Allen
post #8079 of 8634
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Originally Posted by DekPM19 View Post

Well I know nothing about screens so I thought I would ask. I am looking for the cheapest screen that will give me the best 2d from this projector. It will be a fix screen mounted on the wall. I just have no idear what grain or anything to go with.
Allen

I have a 110" EliteSable screen. I have no complaints at all with it and think it gives a great picture.
post #8080 of 8634
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Originally Posted by DekPM19 View Post

Wat is the best screen to use with this projector. I am just starting to read up on PJ and I want between a 100" to 120".
Allen

I use the Elite Screen with the sable frame, 92". It was around 200 on amazon and is perfect for my needs. My room is 16x11, pj is about 14' ft back, shelf mounted. Works and looks great!
post #8081 of 8634
Thanks does sable tell you the grain of the screen
Allen
post #8082 of 8634
I see sable is the frame
Cine white is the type of screen
post #8083 of 8634
I use an Elite Electric 100H, which has a matte white surface (gain = 1.1). My viewing distance is 9 feet, and the 8350 is 12.9 feet from the screen.

I run the projector in the Cinema mode in ECO and used the Disney WOW disc to calibrate. The walls and ceiling in this dedicated home theater room are painted medium dark blue using flat paint.

I use this set-up for movies and some sports and retract the screen to use a 50" Panasonic plasma for everyday viewing. PQ is comparable, with the plasma having a definite edge with respect to blacks.

The performance of the projector-screen system in this room is excellent (based on 2 months of use). Brightness is very good and clarity/sharpness is excellent. The image shows about one-half pixel misalignment at the right edge, which is not noticeable in movie images.
post #8084 of 8634
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Originally Posted by DekPM19 View Post

Thanks does sable tell you the grain of the screen
Allen

Yes, they do. The CineWhite is 1.1. Check out the Elite Screen website.

http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&catid=12&Itemid=20&lang=en
post #8085 of 8634
My 8350 just started making some strange grinding noise. Its only doing it periodically, sounds like its coming maybe from the fan. Any ideas?
post #8086 of 8634
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Originally Posted by DekPM19 View Post


Well I know nothing about screens so I thought I would ask. I am looking for the cheapest screen that will give me the best 2d from this projector. It will be a fix screen mounted on the wall. I just have no idear what grain or anything to go with.
Allen

I thought the Elite ezFrame Fixed looks nice. White if light controlled room (dark room), maybe Grey if not and/or use for day-time viewing.

post #8087 of 8634
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Originally Posted by danw111 View Post

I use an Elite Electric 100H, which has a matte white surface (gain = 1.1). My viewing distance is 9 feet, and the 8350 is 12.9 feet from the screen.

I run the projector in the Cinema mode in ECO and used the Disney WOW disc to calibrate. The walls and ceiling in this dedicated home theater room are painted medium dark blue using flat paint.

I use this set-up for movies and some sports and retract the screen to use a 50" Panasonic plasma for everyday viewing. PQ is comparable, with the plasma having a definite edge with respect to blacks.

The performance of the projector-screen system in this room is excellent (based on 2 months of use). Brightness is very good and clarity/sharpness is excellent. The image shows about one-half pixel misalignment at the right edge, which is not noticeable in movie images.

Thanks now I need to find the colors to paint my ceiling and walls.
Allen
post #8088 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Lebreeze View Post

My 8350 just started making some strange grinding noise. Its only doing it periodically, sounds like its coming maybe from the fan. Any ideas?

Try turning off the iris, if the sound goes away, then you found the issue. A call to support would be necessary, if you want to keep using the iris feature.
post #8089 of 8634
I realized I hadn't posted back in this thread since March 15th when I had mentioned I had an issue with my PJ (8350 refurb) and was getting an exchange. They cross shipped my 8350 and although dealing with Epson customer service was a bit hard on the head, they got it to me pretty quickly and this unit is great. Going strong now at around 141 hours on my lamp. Next steps are for me to play with the settings to try and get the picture just right for my room, and I'm about to purchase a new AVR and fronts to start off my new surround system to go with it.

Currently my setup is really crude, I've taken my 360 and ps3 downstairs but since I don't have a receiver I was manually changing RCA cables to get audio from my Logitech x-530s. You can understand why I'm making the new AVR setup a priority over painting my walls or getting a screen (or better yet even cleaning the recroom). I can definitely get through a few more months casting my PJ onto my beige colored wall while saving up for more upgrades.

The wife loves it even more than I do, and at first she gave the impression she wasn't even interested in it! So far most of our content is Netflix US, and I've been watching Game of Thrones in 720p. Can't wait to get Bluray going in surround!
post #8090 of 8634
Hey guys... I've decided to upgrade to a 3D unit. If you or any of your friends/family would like an 8350, contact me or visit my ebay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300901305440

thanks!
post #8091 of 8634
Well the second replacement bulb Epson sent me under warranty failed in a whopping 950 hours. I am now out of the two year warranty to I bought my first bulb out of pocket which was from Bulbamerica. Their description is as follows: "Epson V13H010L49 Projector Assembly with 200 Watt UHE Osram Projector Bulb". Is this bulb any different than the E-Torl bulb the manual refers to? The price was $195 so it was not one of these "$50 magic bulbs" floating around on the internet. I called Epson support to inquire if they had come up with a better replacement for the constant early failures associated with this unit and they indicated they had resolved the issue with their supplier and had not been getting calls about premature bulb failures any longer. I'm pretty sure he would have told me my cat is made of gold to get me off the phone however. Regardless, I hope this new bulb holds out. As I reported during the previous failure I have since added a battery backup and the last bulb, which failed the earliest of the 3 I might add, had never seen a premature shutoff unlike the ones before it. It is ridiculous to indicate expected life in the 3000-4000 range and to end up constantly with 900-1500 hours of use before failure. I certainly hope the next bulb gets me more than this unacceptable duration of use. I commend Epson for standing behind their issue with an extended warranty but that does not fix the issue once the warranty expires and I like many purchased this unit based off of its long advertised lamp duration.
post #8092 of 8634
Hi guys. I have owned the 8350 for about a month now. Cant complain for the price. I had actually bought a JVC for 2.5x the price but found it was too dark, so I exchanged it for this Epson and I like the Epson better in most cases. Anyway, I calibrated using Art's numbers, but the numbers are different for Cinema and for Dynamic. The RGB numbers are the problem. He says to save under "user one" and " user two". But I cant find user one or user two anywhere in the menu. Do you know where or what he is talking about ? Thanks.
post #8093 of 8634
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Originally Posted by truhunk View Post

He says to save under "user one" and " user two". But I cant find user one or user two anywhere in the menu. Do you know where or what he is talking about ? Thanks.

Sounds like he just means ... saving current presets to Memory locations 1, 2 , etc.

post #8094 of 8634
hey guys , i just got my epson 8350 tested it out on white wall got to say its a beast.But i am new to the projector stuff so i need your gus help.since my projector is going to be wall mounted so i tested the projection screen from the place where the projector is going to be mounted the distance is about 11.9ft.Thing is i don't know much about the zoom thing etc (actually most of the things rolleyes.gif )

1 - the zoom thing on the front ,should i keep it at max and how should i find out on what zoom my projector is since the throw range is 11,9ft
2- i really want to get a bigger projection screen then 120 so can anyone tell me which throw range should i keep my projector and what about the zoom at the front should i keep it completely 0.

help me out please.i haven't learnt much from this link but still it helped me alot but still i really want to know about the zoom thing.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_8700_UB-projection-calculator-pro.htm

sorry about my english mad.gif
post #8095 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Fazil Mehmood View Post

hey guys , i just got my epson 8350 tested it out on white wall got to say its a beast.But i am new to the projector stuff so i need your gus help.since my projector is going to be wall mounted so i tested the projection screen from the place where the projector is going to be mounted the distance is about 11.9ft.Thing is i don't know much about the zoom thing etc (actually most of the things rolleyes.gif )

1 - the zoom thing on the front ,should i keep it at max and how should i find out on what zoom my projector is since the throw range is 11,9ft
2- i really want to get a bigger projection screen then 120 so can anyone tell me which throw range should i keep my projector and what about the zoom at the front should i keep it completely 0.

help me out please.i haven't learnt much from this link but still it helped me alot but still i really want to know about the zoom thing.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_8700_UB-projection-calculator-pro.htm

sorry about my english mad.gif

 

Welcome to the forum and our thread.

 

Try the calculator at epson.com . There is also a chart in English PDF manual. It will give the picture size range (using mechanical optical lens zoom ring) for your distance. You can really think of "lens zoom ring" .as "picture size" I think.

 

I'm pretty sure you can zoom as much as you want, as long as it still focuses sharp/perfect (but in your case, it's limited by close distance). If moving the projector was an option (to hit your ideal final screen size) yes, I would center the ring first and then find your distance. The zoom ring would then just be a "picture size fine tunning". Don't go too big (especially if room is not light controlled or very dark) because the further back you go the dimmer it gets.

 

The Aspect Zoom in projector program settings is something different. I keep that on Normal as to not distort the true Aspect Ratio. If there are other pixel mapping settings, keep those on 1:1, Actual, Normal ... something like that. If using HDMI, those settings often don't apply anyway (which is a good thing). You will get 720p (upscalled to 1080p) or true native 1080p ... all in the original or true aspect ratio.


Edited by Tesla1856 - 5/16/13 at 3:24pm
post #8096 of 8634
thank you so much for the quick reply .

after reading you comment and reading about the zoom thing on different sites;keeping the zoom as low as you will give you brighter and better image.so a 120" from 11,9ft won't be a bad move ? since the room can be made completely dark.i can move the projector back till 22ft..i was thinkin to move it back to 19ft since there is a bracket + power cord already available there..any suggestions ?
post #8097 of 8634
measure your picture on the wall from where you are mounting it and see if it can be 120
i don't think from 11.9 you can get it to 120

i am about 12 feet and had to go with 106
post #8098 of 8634
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

measure your picture on the wall from where you are mounting it and see if it can be 120
i don't think from 11.9 you can get it to 120

i am about 12 feet and had to go with 106

11' 9" is the absolute minimum throw for 120", and should NEVER be used. 12' 6" is safe, and allows for a small degree of Zoom potential for Frame Formatting issues.
post #8099 of 8634
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

11' 9" is the absolute minimum throw for 120", and should NEVER be used. 12' 6" is safe, and allows for a small degree of Zoom potential for Frame Formatting issues.

well if i am going to move it from 11,9 ft then it will go back to 19ft ( got a big a** fan mounted frown.gif ) ..will it be good enough ? i think the image won't be brighter.
post #8100 of 8634
I must be further away then or I zoomed down...
maybe I could have fit the 120 in my 12 by 14 room !!!
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