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post #8401 of 8634
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Originally Posted by GTA Beancounter View Post

In my "man cave" HTR with no windows I use the Cinema mode with no to very dim lighting and I'll use the living room or natural mode when watching sports with some lighting on. I never use dynamic. Generally speaking the lamp life will be prolonged using the less bright modes in eco mode. But the "correct" mode to use really depends on several factors:

1) size and gain of screen
2) projector distance from screen
3) ambient light
4) age of the bulb (as all bulbs will dim somewhat over time)

There are online calculators that you can use to interpret the ideal settings based on the above data.

thanks for the reply - could you point me to the calculators?

Here is my info:
1) 120 Elite CineWhite 1.1 gain
2) 15.5' throw distance
3) light controlled room - some ambient light as its a shared game room/theater room
4) 25 hours logged on bulb
post #8402 of 8634
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Originally Posted by GTA Beancounter View Post

In my "man cave" HTR with no windows I use the Cinema mode with no to very dim lighting and I'll use the living room or natural mode when watching sports with some lighting on. I never use dynamic.

After a lot of experimenting I arrived at the same place. Cinema mode is really nice in a dark room, but if you start in the bright modes it takes you a while to get used to it.

Edit: Project H, your room is pretty similar to mine, except I have a bigger screen. I bet you'll find Cinema mode is fine. There's no need for the flamethrower modes with light control, in fact, they are too bright for comfort.
post #8403 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

thanks for the reply - could you point me to the calculators?

Here is my info:
1) 120 Elite CineWhite 1.1 gain
2) 15.5' throw distance
3) light controlled room - some ambient light as its a shared game room/theater room
4) 25 hours logged on bulb


http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_8350-projection-calculator-pro.htm
post #8404 of 8634
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Originally Posted by thebigeast44 View Post

I once again sent my unit in for repair after getting it back the first time with the blue discoloration I mentioned above. In addition, I developed the auto iris problem for the first time. I just hooked it back up last Friday. This time they once again replaced the optical block and the lamp. The tech stated they were replaced due to auto iris problem and lamp not bright.

So far, I do not detect any problems. In fact, the picture may actually be sharper than before. And the brightness level is fine. No auto iris problems yet. And no dust blobs or discolorations. Of course, with my experiences with this projector over the past 2 years, I'm holding my breath a bit. It's likely just a matter of time before a dust blob appears again. We'll see. I have just a little over a month left on my warranty. Hopefully, I won't experience any additional issues and I can enjoy the projector for some time to come.

When it performs as advertised, it is a fine projector for the money. I'm fine with the errors of omission. Its blacks could be better, it could be sharper etc. I know I'd have to pay more money for better performance. Its errors of commission are its main failing. $1300 might be on the low side for a projector. But it's still a significant chunk of change for many people. There's no excuse for the many problems that this projector has had. Hopefully, the next projector to replace this one in the Epson line will be better engineered. For example, I had not one dust blob over 4 years using my previous projector, the Panasonic AX200. All 3 of my Epson 8350's have developed them. The Epson is in the same room as my Panny was and the room has remained unchanged in that entire time.

Good luck to those who own the 8350. I hope you do not suffer any problems and enjoy your projector. I'll report back with an update if I have any additional problems. But I'll also report back if the repair seems to have solved my problems once and for all.

Well, another update but much sooner than I intended frown.gif After living with my returned projector for the last week and a half, I began to notice that the left side of the picture was not as sharp as the right. I confirmed this with patterns and lettering etc. The pixels on the right appeared almost dead on in some cases or off a half a pixel. On the right, they appeared off 2 pixels or so. So it appears I have some panel alignment issues causing convergence problems and leading to the lack of sharpness on that side.

To ensure that the problem was not being caused by too much lens shift, I moved the piece of furniture I have my projector set on in the back of the room around until I was certain the projector was square using almost no lens shift. Except for perhaps one tiny click sideways if that. This had no effect at all on my problem.

And unfortunately, moving around my projector must have dislodged some dust. So you guessed it, I once again have dust blobs including one prominent one at the top of my screen.

Simply put, this projector is maddening. If I win the millions this weekend, I'm going to take a sledgehammer to it! Since that is unlikely to happen, it will once again be sent back for repair. My warranty is up in a few weeks so this will probably be it for sending it in. If it is not to my satisfaction when I get it back, I plan to demand a new unit or my money back.

I'll post another update when the projector returns from its 3rd go round at the Epson service center.
post #8405 of 8634
Ok so I am getting a weird issue and I am praying someone here can help. Currently im running thee Oppo BDP 103 Blu-ray player HDMI 2 through a Yamaha receiver to an Epson 8350 Projector. Had this set up for quite a while and I always had it set to 36 bit Color and YCbCr 4:4:4 color space. All of my blu-rays played fine and looked great. When I hit the info button on the projector it always read 12 bit deep color. Then I got the Blu-ray for This is the End from Netflix. Every 5 to 10 minutes the picture would distort and then a blank screen would come up and then eventually go back to being normal. for another 5 to 10 minutes. Tried a replacement disc of the same movie and got the same effect. Then I bought the 4k remastered Spider-Man (2002). Now the picture is dropping out every 2 seconds. So I went back into Oppo settings and I switched the color space to RGB Video Level and it all worked perfectly. And I bet if I rented this is the End again it would play fine as well with these new settings. Both RGB Video Level and RGB Video PC work fine,.

So here are my questions.
1. Why did my settings work fine with ALL other blu-rays but not these 2 Sony titles?
2. Since the highest the projector goes is 12 bit do my 30 and 36 bit settings matter at all? I selected them both during and it didn't make it stutter or anything I am just wondering If it does anything?
3.Most importantly am I missing out on anything with the RGB Video Level Color space? To my naked eye I didn't see anything but I also am not doing a side by side comparison. Even the YCbCr 4:2:2 setting makes the projector stutter on those 2 Sony titles. Is there any difference at all for a projector on the low end like mine?

Thank You.
post #8406 of 8634
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Originally Posted by WannaKnowTech View Post

Ok so I am getting a weird issue and I am praying someone here can help. Currently im running thee Oppo BDP 103 Blu-ray player HDMI 2 through a Yamaha receiver to an Epson 8350 Projector. Had this set up for quite a while and I always had it set to 36 bit Color and YCbCr 4:4:4 color space. All of my blu-rays played fine and looked great. When I hit the info button on the projector it always read 12 bit deep color. Then I got the Blu-ray for This is the End from Netflix. Every 5 to 10 minutes the picture would distort and then a blank screen would come up and then eventually go back to being normal. for another 5 to 10 minutes. Tried a replacement disc of the same movie and got the same effect. Then I bought the 4k remastered Spider-Man (2002). Now the picture is dropping out every 2 seconds. So I went back into Oppo settings and I switched the color space to RGB Video Level and it all worked perfectly. And I bet if I rented this is the End again it would play fine as well with these new settings. Both RGB Video Level and RGB Video PC work fine,.

So here are my questions.
1. Why did my settings work fine with ALL other blu-rays but not these 2 Sony titles?
2. Since the highest the projector goes is 12 bit do my 30 and 36 bit settings matter at all? I selected them both during and it didn't make it stutter or anything I am just wondering If it does anything?
3.Most importantly am I missing out on anything with the RGB Video Level Color space? To my naked eye I didn't see anything but I also am not doing a side by side comparison. Even the YCbCr 4:2:2 setting makes the projector stutter on those 2 Sony titles. Is there any difference at all for a projector on the low end like mine?

Thank You.

The problem you are having with This Is the End is discussed in the Blu-ray Software forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1493945/this-is-the-end-blu-ray-issues
post #8407 of 8634
Anyone know how I can get rid of a dust blob in the projector? Thanks!

It's not an issue or an annoyance to me, but I am looking to sell the projector and am honest about my listings so would rather take care of that minor issue rather than call it out. Thanks!
post #8408 of 8634
my epson 8350 has a 4 year warranty through best buy which includes one free bulb replacement. do you guys know if they typically replace it with oem bulbs or something like the one in the link below? Just out of curiosity how is the one in the link below as it costs just $60.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/epson-powerlite-hc-8350-hc-8100-hc-8500ub-hc-8500ub-et-lad60-elplp49-v13h010l49-compatible-lamp/1308599029.p;jsessionid=6467C7A56BA71A56AB003D83486FF72E.bbolsp-app01-111?id=mp1308599029&skuId=1308599029&st=epson%208350&cp=1&lp=2
post #8409 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post


The problem you are having with This Is the End is discussed in the Blu-ray Software forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1493945/this-is-the-end-blu-ray-issues

Interesting.

 

So is it poor (or non-compliant) mastering? Or, is it the HDMI not being able to handle the increased band-width?

 

As, for OP problem, I would guess a bad cable or mastered bandwidth exceeding cables and/or equipment. Could possibly be just one place in HDMI chain.

 

FYI, my Panny Plasma always does that blanked-out HDMI re-sync a few minutes into any HDCP content. But only once per movie. Never seen the 8350 do it.

post #8410 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Interesting.

So is it poor (or non-compliant) mastering? Or, is it the HDMI not being able to handle the increased band-width?

As, for OP problem, I would guess a bad cable or mastered bandwidth exceeding cables and/or equipment. Could possibly be just one place in HDMI chain.

FYI, my Panny Plasma always does that blanked-out HDMI re-sync a few minutes into any HDCP content. But only once per movie. Never seen the 8350 do it.

I had the exact same issue where the picture would go out on This Is The End with my 8350. I was worried that it was a bad cable. I tried playing it on another blu-ray player and it worked.
post #8411 of 8634
Looking to do some calibration on my 8350, has a few hundred hours on it already. Got the Disney WoW disc, is there anything else to do? ( or point me in the right direction).

Would taking the calibration settings from the ProjectorReview of the Epson 8350 make any sense, or am I wasting my time because each projector should be calibrated on its own?

Any downside to not engaging the auto iris/ (noisy, in eco mode). I assume the black levels are not as good, but how much am I losing?

Thanks
Edited by anthonywoy - 11/5/13 at 11:32pm
post #8412 of 8634
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Looking to do some calibration on my 8350, has a few hundred hours on it already. Got the Disney WoW disc, is there anything else to do? ( or point me in the right direction).

Would taking the calibration settings from the ProjectorReview of the Epson 8350 make any sense, or am I wasting my time because each projector should be calibrated on its own?

Any downside to not engaging the auto iris/ (noisy, in eco mode). I assume the black levels are not as good, but how much am I losing?

Thanks

Before you jump into calibration, make sure it is focused. Display 4x4.gif on your projector over HDMI as a tiled desktop background. When in focus, it presents a sharply defined grid pattern across your display. It also identifies any image distortions from the projector's rendering engine that are caused when digital zoom or keystone adjustments are made.



mappingTestPatterns.zip 53k .zip file
post #8413 of 8634
Thanks vidkidd. How are you displaying these images, via a computer? Can I use an iPad via Apple TV?
post #8414 of 8634
Hi guys, long time

I am having the flickering bulb issue again. Before the fix was to run in normal mode for a few hours. But this no longer works for me. I am now out of warranty having had a refurb unit due to this fault a couple of years ago

Will a new bulb fix it?
Is there a new fix?

Thanks and apologies if it has been covered but 280+ pages is a lot to take in
post #8415 of 8634
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Thanks vidkidd. How are you displaying these images, via a computer? Can I use an iPad via Apple TV?

I am displaying them from a Windows Media Center box as a tiled desktop background. This technique would work from OSX as well.
post #8416 of 8634
Bulb just died after 1371 hours(apprx), not impressed...
post #8417 of 8634
I had the original bulb that came with the projector and it also dimmed bigtime and had to be replaced at about 1300 hours. I had to call and bitch and they sent me another bulb which is working but I also get the flickering. It gets dimmer and then goes back to normal

it would be a waste to pay full price for the Epson bulb. At this point, it is much better to buy the cheaper $60 bulb and see how long that lasts

300 is way too much for a bulb that goes out long before the 3,000 hour mark
post #8418 of 8634
Guess I am not the only one, disappointing though. Agree on the bulb cost, guess I will have to find one on Ebay.
post #8419 of 8634
i have the original bulb with over 2000 hours and the picture is still great apart from the flickering. which is the light going bright and dimmer at random intervals
when the engineer came out he said it was a board fault not bulb.
i would change it in a heartbeat if i thought a new bulb would fix the problem. just don't want to waste cash
post #8420 of 8634
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Originally Posted by detroit1 View Post

another bulb which is working but I also get the flickering. It gets dimmer and then goes back to normal

Take the bulb off of ECO.. Mine did that on eco and when I switched it to bright for a while it would go back to eco fine.. Eventually I just decided to use Bright all the time and when the bulb goes it goes.
post #8421 of 8634
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Originally Posted by F12Bwth View Post

Take the bulb off of ECO.. Mine did that on eco and when I switched it to bright for a while it would go back to eco fine.. Eventually I just decided to use Bright all the time and when the bulb goes it goes.

only problem is the extra noise!
wish there was a way to keep the fan on low speed
post #8422 of 8634
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Originally Posted by pacemaker View Post

only problem is the extra noise!
wish there was a way to keep the fan on low speed

If you could you could kiss that bulb goodbye. Even when I ran on eco I had it on "high-altitude" mode so the fan ran harder and longer. The fan noise doesn't affect me at all but it may be the way it is situated on a shelf and not hung upside down. You could probably add a sound block between you and the projector. Some thin masonite or plastic that just blocks the line of site.
post #8423 of 8634

Hello,  new to the forum,

 

I have an Epson 8350 projector that I use for television viewing along with movies.

 

Something happened 2 days ago,  while changing channels the picture pops up for 1/2 a second then the screen goes black for about 7 seconds before the picture and the channel I switched to appears.

Before you could just keep changing channels and they came right up. Now its a black screen for 7 to 8 seconds before the picture lights up.

 

I hear the projector doing something when it lights up,  like it is focusing or something.

 

Anyone have any idea's here??

 

(I have my HD cable box running through it)

 

Put this in the other forum by mistake,  if you see this twice. Sorry

post #8424 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Htownmattro View Post
 

Hello,  new to the forum,

 

I have an Epson 8350 projector that I use for television viewing along with movies.

 

Something happened 2 days ago,  while changing channels the picture pops up for 1/2 a second then the screen goes black for about 7 seconds before the picture and the channel I switched to appears.

Before you could just keep changing channels and they came right up. Now its a black screen for 7 to 8 seconds before the picture lights up.

 

I hear the projector doing something when it lights up,  like it is focusing or something.

 

Anyone have any idea's here??

 

(I have my HD cable box running through it)

 

Put this in the other forum by mistake,  if you see this twice. Sorry

I'm guessing you are using HDMI because most people do these days. Sounds like HDMI negotiation ... gotten longer for some reason. Some device in HDMI chain. I would be looking close at CableBox.

 

For sound, there is also an AMP, right? Lots of HDMI cables (re-seat them).

 

If you have a small HDMI TV, you could bring it in and hook-up instead of 8350. Anyway, you will have to troubleshoot to find and isolate problem to one machine (or cable) before you can fix it.

post #8425 of 8634
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Originally Posted by pacemaker View Post

i have the original bulb with over 2000 hours and the picture is still great apart from the flickering. which is the light going bright and dimmer at random intervals
when the engineer came out he said it was a board fault not bulb.
i would change it in a heartbeat if i thought a new bulb would fix the problem. just don't want to waste cash

I would try a new bulb (so much easier and cheaper than a board swap). With 2000 hours on original bulb, you will need it soon anyway.

post #8426 of 8634
I have been bouncing around between PJs and this one seems to be perfect for my needs. I am just worried by the OVERWHELMING amount of issues this PJ seems to have. Reviews on a lot of sites including this one makes it seem like I would be spending more time getting this repaired than using it.

Can anyone with a lot of experience comment? I would be buying a refurbished one.
post #8427 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post
 

I'm guessing you are using HDMI because most people do these days. Sounds like HDMI negotiation ... gotten longer for some reason. Some device in HDMI chain. I would be looking close at CableBox.

 

For sound, there is also an AMP, right? Lots of HDMI cables (re-seat them).

 

If you have a small HDMI TV, you could bring it in and hook-up instead of 8350. Anyway, you will have to troubleshoot to find and isolate problem to one machine (or cable) before you can fix it.

Sorry,  I should have been a little more detailed.

 

I have my Comcast HD cable box connected to a Denon Receiver with an HDMI cable.  Then I have the outlet of the receiver going to the Epson projector using a HDMI cable also.

 

SO you think it in my cables then?  Everything still works and looks great,  just a 8 second delay to get a picture when I change channels. Even when I turn on my PS3 (Connected with HDMI also)  it has the same delay before you get the picture.

 

 When I change channels I am getting the sound right away,  just not the picture until about 7 to 8 seconds later.

 

Thanks for your help.  I will do some HDMI trouble shooting

post #8428 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Htownmattro View Post

Sorry,  I should have been a little more detailed.

I have my Comcast HD cable box connected to a Denon Receiver with an HDMI cable.  Then I have the outlet of the receiver going to the Epson projector using a HDMI cable also.

SO you think it in my cables then?  Everything still works and looks great,  just a 8 second delay to get a picture when I change channels. Even when I turn on my PS3 (Connected with HDMI also)  it has the same delay before you get the picture.

 When I change channels I am getting the sound right away,  just not the picture until about 7 to 8 seconds later.

Thanks for your help.  I will do some HDMI trouble shooting

You can try posting in this forum area for additional help.

HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World
post #8429 of 8634
I have a denon receiver, fios cable box and do not have this issue.
post #8430 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Destx View Post

I have been bouncing around between PJs and this one seems to be perfect for my needs. I am just worried by the OVERWHELMING amount of issues this PJ seems to have. Reviews on a lot of sites including this one makes it seem like I would be spending more time getting this repaired than using it.

Can anyone with a lot of experience comment? I would be buying a refurbished one.

Folks don't normally talk about their devices if they are happy and not having problems. Usually folks come here to talk about and find solutions to their particular issue. There are maybe 100-200 people here (I dunno, just guessing) and Epson sells hundreds of thousands of these units (guessing again). I wouldn't worry about it. I've had my 8350 for 2 years now, on the original lamp (1,200 hours) and it is a solid performer - not one issue. I love this thing. Incredible bang for the buck.
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