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post #8461 of 8634
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

Can I suggest some folding doors for that closet and some paint for the walls?
seems very "bright" in there.
good for you looks pretty good?
Is this an apartment or parents basement?

Living in a home with other roommates, this is actually my bedroom (Very big I know). The closet is also me and my gfs dogs room which has a door, you may notice the black part on both sides of the closet (The closet is basically another room in itself, can't really see the depth in the pic). It's temporary and I will be moving into my own home next year so I will have a proper/cleaner setup then. So I'm not currently worried about the walls/closet/power cable hanging right out in the open from the projector lol. It still looks wonderful though even during the daytime.
post #8462 of 8634
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Originally Posted by KlingonScum View Post

No such luck on the credit card protection (sigh). As luck would have it, I haven't gotten the issue since then.

One other odd thing, which is likely unrelated. I got an aftermarket bulb from Amazon - the bulb works fine, but there's a very very VERY faint high pitched "beeping" coming from the projector when it's on. If you're listening to audio while watching a show, you can't hear it, but if you've got everything paused you can juuuuust make the noise out. Each beep seems to last a full second, and then there's a couple seconds or so before the next beep. I don't see anything in the manual about any sort of warning or anything that would cause beeping. The old (original) bulb doesn't do this. It doesn't bother me, I'm just curious if anybody else has run into this...

And also still wondering if anybody's gotten the auto-iris issue fixed through Epson AFTER the warranty had expired and how much I can expect to pay...

I'm having this beeping issue with an aftermarket bulb I got. Does anyone know what this is, or how to stop it?
post #8463 of 8634
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Originally Posted by SergeS2K View Post

Got my 8350 setup! Please excuse the mess, also I'll be getting a shelving unit for my Xbox One, Cable Box, etc soon, so don't mind how ugly it looks right now! I'll also be routing the cables better but this was initial setup to make sure everything was good!



It looks absolutely GORGEOUS! Man, I've seen plenty of videos and pictures of setups, but when you see it yourself in person it's a whole other world! Was playing Avatar on it, and some Xbox One Games and man, I could not be happier, and this was already coming from a 52" Samsung LCD!

Went out to Ikea to get a little something smile.gif. Here's the finished setup along with a pic of it in action, keep in mind these are phone pics, the image quality is definitely as perfect as I can imagine!



post #8464 of 8634
NICE picture, what size?
post #8465 of 8634
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Originally Posted by elmalloc View Post

NICE picture, what size?

120 inch, Visual Apex Screen, I could not be any happier with it!
post #8466 of 8634
i hate you serge, i hate you!!!! i cannot fit 120" in my room, i will have to hang the projector near the staircase then it will look awkward and decrease my home value immensly i hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want to play kinect sport rivals!!!
post #8467 of 8634
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Originally Posted by dobieck1 View Post

Hello, anyone using the 8350 with the XBOX one and trying to set it up as the TV through the XBOX menu. Its not listed I was wondering what others used to get the XBOX to control it? Is there a specific IR Remote code I can use because you can enter it in the XBONE. Thanks.

I actually got this to work tonight, make sure to choose that you don't see your brand, and type in Epson when it asks, it will try to send different commands to your 8350. It sent a mute command and it acted like the blank option on the remote, and then it sent the menu command and that worked. My xbox one now turns it on automatically, but it won't turn it off, this is probably because it asks for confirmation when turning it off I assume. Otherwise it's nice that it turns it on when I say Xbox turn on!
post #8468 of 8634
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Originally Posted by elmalloc View Post

i hate you serge, i hate you!!!! i cannot fit 120" in my room, i will have to hang the projector near the staircase then it will look awkward and decrease my home value immensly i hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want to play kinect sport rivals!!!

Haha sorry! I was cutting it close though, I think the shortest throw at 120 inchs is about 11 feet or so. I've got it at about 13 feet.
post #8469 of 8634
IT's the depth, the DEPTH! The PJ is too big! I have only 13 ft in my room Giving it 5" behind for ventiliatoin, I have 12.5 ft to work with. Given the projector is 16" deep (WTF) - I basically have 11ft to throw. The 8350 cannot throw 120" from there from the projection calculator, so I'm doomed!!!!!!!!!!!! I have Xbox one and PS4 and cannot play them appropriately! FML!!!
post #8470 of 8634
Originally Posted by KlingonScum View Post

No such luck on the credit card protection (sigh). As luck would have it, I haven't gotten the issue since then.

One other odd thing, which is likely unrelated. I got an aftermarket bulb from Amazon - the bulb works fine, but there's a very very VERY faint high pitched "beeping" coming from the projector when it's on. If you're listening to audio while watching a show, you can't hear it, but if you've got everything paused you can juuuuust make the noise out. Each beep seems to last a full second, and then there's a couple seconds or so before the next beep. I don't see anything in the manual about any sort of warning or anything that would cause beeping. The old (original) bulb doesn't do this. It doesn't bother me, I'm just curious if anybody else has run into this...

And also still wondering if anybody's gotten the auto-iris issue fixed through Epson AFTER the warranty had expired and how much I can expect to pay...
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Originally Posted by Ub3r-L33ch View Post

I'm having this beeping issue with an aftermarket bulb I got. Does anyone know what this is, or how to stop it?

Bump, if anyone knows?
post #8471 of 8634
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Originally Posted by augerpro View Post

I'm helping a friend finish his basement right now and he'll be using the 8350 ceiling mounted when we are finished. We are deciding where to mount the projector right now and I want to make sure I have this right before the sheetrock goes on. We will be going for a 100" screen.

Using the calculator at projector central, it looks like zoom and image brightness are what I need to start with then work back from there. 1) So what is a good zoom? 2) Should I stay near max brightness (22) as a good starting point? I assume this is Dynamic mode, how much does eco drop it if we go that route? Or if we use Living Room mode?

Right now I have 1.64 zoom to stay within the 22fL, which works out to 12'6" throw for a 100" screen.

Anyone have any advice for what I posted above?
post #8472 of 8634
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Originally Posted by augerpro View Post

Anyone have any advice for what I posted above?

You should really read the entire Epson 8350 review by Art Feierman it discusses most of your points.

Going from full power to eco mode drops the light output about 23%.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/epson-home-cinema-8350-projector-performance/

The brightest picture is achieved at the closest end of the throw range, no surprise there. Does your friend mind having the projector in front of the seating area? Overhead or behind?

Although 100" seems like a large screen the day will come when he will regret not having gone bigger.
post #8473 of 8634
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Originally Posted by FUN4ME View Post

Thanks for the tutorial.
For anyone considering doing this I recommend doing it.
It is easy and it worked for me.
I dont think that removing the case will void the warranty.

I did not notice any "void if seal is broken" stickers anywhere, maybe they are hidden.


I guess if you are worried about a warranty issue just send it back and hope you get a good replacement.

Can you tell us what compressed air you used? how long did you hold the air? 1 second? 10 seconds? did you do multiple short bursts of air? etc
Thanks
post #8474 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

You should really read the entire Epson 8350 review by Art Feierman it discusses most of your points.

Going from full power to eco mode drops the light output about 23%.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/epson-home-cinema-8350-projector-performance/

The brightest picture is achieved at the closest end of the throw range, no surprise there. Does your friend mind having the projector in front of the seating area? Overhead or behind?

Although 100" seems like a large screen the day will come when he will regret not having gone bigger.

The screen isn't built yet, so we can go with a 120" and see what looks best. He'd be up for that. I would guess he wants the projector behind the seating area. I don't remember where that is exactly but it is maybe 12-13' I think. I'm reading that review, regarding the light output between the different modes, I'm not sure how lumens converts to the brightness fL used in the projector central calculator. Is 23% less on one the same as 23% less on the other, or are these log scales, or?
post #8475 of 8634
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Originally Posted by linkseo View Post

Can you tell us what compressed air you used? how long did you hold the air? 1 second? 10 seconds? did you do multiple short bursts of air? etc
Thanks
I just used the stuff from radio shack....a few short bursts 2 3 seconds each in As many directions as possible. Make sure you keep the can upright so only "air" comes out if the can is on its side liquid will come out and it is very cold and might damage the panels.
Good luck let us know how it works out for you
post #8476 of 8634
Looking for a replacement 8350 bulb in Indianapolis this morning! Saturday, Nov 30...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1502684/long-shot-need-replacement-8350-bulb-today-indianapolis

Thanks everybody.

On a related note... had this projector installed since Jan-2011. STILL LOVE THIS THING!
post #8477 of 8634
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Originally Posted by augerpro View Post

The screen isn't built yet, so we can go with a 120" and see what looks best. He'd be up for that. I would guess he wants the projector behind the seating area. I don't remember where that is exactly but it is maybe 12-13' I think. I'm reading that review, regarding the light output between the different modes, I'm not sure how lumens converts to the brightness fL used in the projector central calculator. Is 23% less on one the same as 23% less on the other, or are these log scales, or?

For a reference look at the recent post in this thread where the projector is using a throw range of 13.5' with a 120" (16:9) screen. The seating is directly beneath the projector.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1280137/the-offical-epson-8350-owners-thread/8430#post_23990657

If you have a throw range of 12-13' and want the projector behind you then you're sitting fairly close to the screen. You don't mention the seating distance to screen.

Here's a paragraph that explains how the Projector Central calculator is set up.
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In theory, lumens and foot-Lamberts are related-one foot-Lambert of luminance is equal to one lumen per square foot. But there is no direct relationship between the ANSI lumen ratings from the manufacturer and the foot-Lambert measurements as reported in the Calculator. That is because the Calculator factors in reduced lumen outputs for video optimization and average lamp usage, in order to estimate a typical viewing experience.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/home_theater_projector_buyers_guide.htm?page=Brightness

So from this explanation I come away with the impression that the calculator already factors in the reduced light output (eco mode) of the projector.
post #8478 of 8634
I've read a lot of this thread but haven't quite found a definitive answer. I am in the process of finishing my home theater area and have a challenging soffit issue. I was planning to have a 110" screen (although I haven't purchased it yet). I have two options for positioning of the projector. I can have it mounted to the bottom of my 7' soffit (around my HVAC duct work) at a throw distance of about 15 feet which would put the bottom of the projector at about 6 feet 2 inches high. Or I can put it just in front of the soffit (8' ceiling) but the throw distance would be about 11 feet and right near the edge of the zoom.

I like having the projector more out of the way but didn't know how well it would operate with the zoom setting. I believe I could live with the projector being at 6'2" if the projector would operate better further back.

I would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by stahara View Post

I've read a lot of this thread but haven't quite found a definitive answer. I am in the process of finishing my home theater area and have a challenging soffit issue. I was planning to have a 110" screen (although I haven't purchased it yet). I have two options for positioning of the projector. I can have it mounted to the bottom of my 7' soffit (around my HVAC duct work) at a throw distance of about 15 feet which would put the bottom of the projector at about 6 feet 2 inches high. Or I can put it just in front of the soffit (8' ceiling) but the throw distance would be about 11 feet and right near the edge of the zoom.

I like having the projector more out of the way but didn't know how well it would operate with the zoom setting. I believe I could live with the projector being at 6'2" if the projector would operate better further back.

I would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks.

How exact are your measurements? If you really have an 11 foot throw to the screen the calculator shows the near range at 10' 9" for a 110" (16:9) screen. This would allow for the brightest picture.

However this close to the screen the projector will likely be located in front of the seating area. Would this bother you? Do you want it overhead or behind you?
post #8480 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

How exact are your measurements? If you really have an 11 foot throw to the screen the calculator shows the near range at 10' 9" for a 110" (16:9) screen. This would allow for the brightest picture.

However this close to the screen the projector will likely be located in front of the seating area. Would this bother you? Do you want it overhead or behind you?

I think my measurements are pretty accurate. I could always go to a slightly smaller screen if I had to. I need to wait until the construction is further along to be sure. Yes the 11' throw position would have the projector in front of the main seating area but it would be on a shelf 'built-in' to the soffit. My contractor has a setup similar in his home theater (same projector) and he say he can't hear it. However I also have ventilation concerns with this setup so I'd have to make sure that is addressed.

The main purpose of my question is whether or not there is a down side (picture quality, performance, etc.) to operating the projector at this distance for a 110' screen size. I am a little nervous about operating on the edge of the limit of the zoom but if there is no downside then I can get over it.

Thanks.
post #8481 of 8634
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Originally Posted by stahara View Post

I think my measurements are pretty accurate. I could always go to a slightly smaller screen if I had to. I need to wait until the construction is further along to be sure. Yes the 11' throw position would have the projector in front of the main seating area but it would be on a shelf 'built-in' to the soffit. My contractor has a setup similar in his home theater (same projector) and he say he can't hear it. However I also have ventilation concerns with this setup so I'd have to make sure that is addressed.

The main purpose of my question is whether or not there is a down side (picture quality, performance, etc.) to operating the projector at this distance for a 110' screen size. I am a little nervous about operating on the edge of the limit of the zoom but if there is no downside then I can get over it.

Thanks.

This is what Projector Central has to say:
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Zoom and Light Output. The Home Cinema 8350's 2.1:1 zoom lens is a great feature for placement flexibility. However, if you use of the telephoto end of the lens (the setting that produces the smallest image for a given throw distance), lumen output drops by 39% compared to what you get with the lens set at maximum wide angle. This light loss is typical for a 2x zoom lens, and it needs to be taken into account when choosing your throw distance and screen size. For example, Cinema mode delivers 556 lumens with the lens at wide angle, but only 340 lumens with the lens at maximum telephoto. 340 lumens is fine for a 100" diagonal screen in a dark room, but with larger screen sizes you may want to think about ceiling mounting to get the projector closer to the screen for maximum lumen output.

On the other hand, this does not mean you should simply use maximum wide angle at all times. Telephoto does have the advantage of focusing the light coming from the projector into a tighter cone, which will result in more even screen illumination. And as far as sharpness is concerned, the optical sweet spot of any zoom lens is in the middle of its throw range. So these things should be taken into account as well. All long zooms present the user with trade-offs between brightness, optical precision, and ideal screen illumination.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_home_cinema_8350_projector_review.htm?page=Limitations
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Has anyone fixed the auto-iris error themselves? There are a few videos on Youtube fixing other Epson projectors with the error but none for the 8350. Thanks.
post #8483 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

This is what Projector Central has to say:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_home_cinema_8350_projector_review.htm?page=Limitations


Thanks for the help, I think I am going to have to with the position further back. I can't figure a way to get proper ventilation with the configuration just in front of the soffit.

I really appreciate all of the information.
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I believe I am having a handshaking issue between my 8350 and my devices. I was curious if there is anything I should change and specify so that it does not have to handshake so much and simply receives the output vs searching for the auto display settings. My setup includes an Epson 8350, Onkyo HT-S9400 receiver system, and a PS3 for the blurays. Also a Direct TV HD DVR box. I will link to a video I made which is only cell phone quality so I had the light on (doesn't look the best). When I play the blu ray especially Polar Express, I turn everything on, click play on the blu ray through the PS3 then goes through handshaking, then most of the time I get a no signal issue while it handshakes and displayed a bunch of yellow or green lines across the screen. I will have to flip flop through another device (direct tv box) so the projector then auto senses video input and adjust then switch back to PS3 to get the video hopefully. Sometimes this takes 2-4 times of switching. Also I am using a 35 foot redmere cable from MonoPrice.

http://youtu.be/BxkhNqMxk8E

Thanks in advance.
post #8485 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Wired4Speed2 View Post

I believe I am having a handshaking issue between my 8350 and my devices. I was curious if there is anything I should change and specify so that it does not have to handshake so much and simply receives the output vs searching for the auto display settings. My setup includes an Epson 8350, Onkyo HT-S9400 receiver system, and a PS3 for the blurays. Also a Direct TV HD DVR box. I will link to a video I made which is only cell phone quality so I had the light on (doesn't look the best). When I play the blu ray especially Polar Express, I turn everything on, click play on the blu ray through the PS3 then goes through handshaking, then most of the time I get a no signal issue while it handshakes and displayed a bunch of yellow or green lines across the screen. I will have to flip flop through another device (direct tv box) so the projector then auto senses video input and adjust then switch back to PS3 to get the video hopefully. Sometimes this takes 2-4 times of switching. Also I am using a 35 foot redmere cable from MonoPrice.

http://youtu.be/BxkhNqMxk8E

Thanks in advance.

Re-seat all HDMI cables.

 

Start swapping cables and devices until you get down to a basic 100% working config ... then build it back up one change at a time.

 

Since you suggest problem is pointing to projector, I would replace Redmere with a proper normal high speed 22 gauge 1.4 HDMI cable. Run cables across floor (for fast test) if you have to.

 

Bringing a HDMI TV into room would help troubleshooting as a first step. It would test whole setup real fast (amp, PS3). If problem is ever PS3, real Blu-Ray players are around $100.


Edited by Tesla1856 - 12/6/13 at 8:22pm
post #8486 of 8634
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Originally Posted by Wired4Speed2 View Post

I believe I am having a handshaking issue between my 8350 and my devices. I was curious if there is anything I should change and specify so that it does not have to handshake so much and simply receives the output vs searching for the auto display settings. My setup includes an Epson 8350, Onkyo HT-S9400 receiver system, and a PS3 for the blurays. Also a Direct TV HD DVR box. I will link to a video I made which is only cell phone quality so I had the light on (doesn't look the best). When I play the blu ray especially Polar Express, I turn everything on, click play on the blu ray through the PS3 then goes through handshaking, then most of the time I get a no signal issue while it handshakes and displayed a bunch of yellow or green lines across the screen. I will have to flip flop through another device (direct tv box) so the projector then auto senses video input and adjust then switch back to PS3 to get the video hopefully. Sometimes this takes 2-4 times of switching. Also I am using a 35 foot redmere cable from MonoPrice.

http://youtu.be/BxkhNqMxk8E

Thanks in advance.

Make sure your Onkyo is set to "pass through only" so it isn't trying to do anything to the signal. Sometimes the playstation will "remember" an old video setup setting. You might try going back into the playstation and redo your settings while the pj is connected. Couple of things to check.
post #8487 of 8634
Hi there,

I just purchased an Epson 8350 as my first projector and know I'm going to love it. I'm waiting on a screen that's being shipped so in the meantime have rigged up a bed-sheet in order to run the projector, learn how it works, etc. After the first couple of days I've noticed a very distinct arc of light that extends below the lower edge of the view area. You can see it in the picture. The color changes depending on what is on the screen. Does anyone have an idea what this is and more importantly, how to get rid of it? Thank you!

post #8488 of 8634
I'm about to purchase my 8350 finally but have been disappointed that there really weren't any Black Friday deal on it. Looks like it pretty much $1299 everywhere. I saw that Visual Apex had refurbs for $929 (although must not be in stock since it says preorder - shipments arriving weekly).

Anyway, what is the current thinking on refurbs vs. new? Any thought on whether there might be any good deals coming soon?
post #8489 of 8634
Not sure about any deals coming up, but have heard many horror stories on refurbs. Just not worth it in my opinion. I bought mine from Tiger direct and i am sur it was B stock. Lots of issues. Epson sent me a new unit from their stock as a replacement and it ws a night and day difference. I would buy from them or Crutchfield, or another highend online retailer. I did get a good price($1099) on my TD purchase but was not worth the hassle to me.
post #8490 of 8634
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Originally Posted by pagan97 View Post

Not sure about any deals coming up, but have heard many horror stories on refurbs. Just not worth it in my opinion. I bought mine from Tiger direct and i am sur it was B stock. Lots of issues. Epson sent me a new unit from their stock as a replacement and it ws a night and day difference. I would buy from them or Crutchfield, or another highend online retailer. I did get a good price($1099) on my TD purchase but was not worth the hassle to me.

Agreed. BestBuy has PriceMatch and you can take it back for 100% refund if not 100% happy.

 

Plus, I think these 3-LCD projectors are pretty delicate (alignment and all). I would avoid a UPS trip if possible (especially this time of year). If you must UPS, make sure it's "Air Service". A lot less handling says my brother who works there.

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