Official LG 47LX6500/55LX6500 Owners Thread - Page 11

Let me know when you get Avatar, I'll swap you 2-1 (Last Air Bender/Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs) for a couple of weeks if you are game.

How many hours has your tv done? I guess there is a period of use to get everything flowing not so much a break in as just better with a little time. mine has done 600 hrs. it can be found by pressing menu then red and selecting product/service info.

Yep - Austin. We didn't have to wait, just showed up around 930am on Friday - the ad didn't even state the details of the TV - only that it was led 3d, so maybe that helped.

After getting home last night, I plugged in the new wifi adapter and it worked after two tries of setting the WPA key. Hit the Netcast button, and it automatically updated without a hitch. Once complete, we watched 'Monster House' in 3d, at first had to reboot the player for it to see it was connected to a 3d TV, but it was beautiful. There was some glitchiness in the first 10-15 minutes in the glasses that completely went away (perhaps the lcd in the glasses needs time to 'warm up?').

It seems with the latest update, they've changed to default settings, too. The 2d on this tv rocks and the 3d is very good - IMHO. Get Monster House for a really good source.

For all those that are unhappy, the LG PX950 series plasmas are less expensive and just received a "one of the best Plasmas" review from Cnet. For both 3D and 2D performance.

I was going to buy an LX series LED until this thread talked me out of it about 3 weeks ago.

I just got my PX the other day and it blew me away. No crosstalk, No shadowing, 3D blu ray and gaming was incredible on the PS3 and 2D as well on HDTV signals.

They will use $20.00 more per year in power.

Consumer reports is supposed to have a review as well this month.

Anyway, enjoy! It's a Hard choice and took me 45 days to make it. I do thank this forum for helping me make the decision I am most happy with.

The 50" was under $1300.

A couple of 3D sampler videos we downloaded from the Playstation Network. We're pretty confident they are acceptable quality because Sony used these to demo 3D at all of the recent video game conferences.


Very interesting, I'll give it a try.

And the LG PX950 is THX certified for 2D and 3D as well! If (by some stroke of luck) LG offers us a replacement I'll be asking for a straight trade for the LG PX950 instead of another LED.

How does it perform in a room with bit of sunlight coming in the windows?

Man I bought this Tv on Black Friday from Conns. 55 inch with the bundle of 4 glasses and 3d bluray player. I got this mostly for the 240hz and 3D capability. I mean there were alot of good deals for 2d tvs 55 inches and up for less $$. The first day I did the Picture wizard to set it to what I like the most. I noticed the led dimming in dark scenes right away. Like little flashlights in the sides of the screen Very distracting. Its a very good picture quality as long as there isnt the widescreen dark bars omn the top and bottom like most movies have. I tried to use trumotion on rockband , it has its ups and downs. The characters looke crisp and smooth. but the falling notes are all studdering and lacking framerate but only when theres a bunch of notes...? if its like 2 or three notes dropping the Tv processes them smoothly and clean. I tried the 3D with Cloudy with a Chance of meatballs Bluray 3D. It looked good for some parts. But the crosstalk was really bad in alot of scenes. I tried my ps3 demos / games in 3D and the cross talk was still present there too. I decided a couple days later that im gonna return it back to Conns and just purchase a Samsung for more, being that Ive seen and heard that Samsung have far less crosstalk. But when I called to see their policy on returns they charge 15% restocking fee which basically makes it around 300 bucks they get from me, just because I wasnt satisfied with the tv. what can i do? I cant decide if I should lose my money and spend more on a different Tv, or just sit on this and see if it improves with the firmware updates (its updated twice now its version 04.10.08). Even with the updates the 3d hasnt really improved THAT much that ive noticed. I have 30 days till im officially stuck with it.

Personally, if I was in your positioon, I would return it and swallow the $300 loss. I bought my LX6500 in September and only tried the 3-D part last month, so I can't return it. If I had tried it within the return period, I would have, even with any penalty (after reading this forum and the issues with the 3-D cross-talk).

I'm will be contacting LG to see what I can do, but not putting my hopes high on any firmware updates fixing the problem, or getting a refund. I did buy the extended warranty, but not sure if that will help to exchange the TV. P.S. I bought the TV from Future Shop in Canada.

Gabriel

Thanks for that report, not surprising unfortuntely, I guess we all were hoping otherwise, at least you tried. I will contact LG and/or my extended warrenty provider (bought through Future Shop) and see what they tell me. I will tell them this is not acceptable and would like to replace my TV or fix it.

From both remote possiblities, I think replacing it is probably more likely than fixing.

P.S. The 3-D is unacceptable. I have read online reports that all LCD 3-D TV's have cross-talk BUT, the 3-D Sony, and Samsung have nowhere near the cross-talk of the LG. It is funny how at Future Shop (where I bought the LG), they had a demo LG, but they couldn't demo it for some apparent reason. Now I know why. This was in two different Future Shop's, while the Sony's had no problem demoing 3-D. I wouldn't have bought the LG if I had seen a demo (of the LG).

BTW, I have much experience with 3-D content, from watching 3-D on my old 27 inch Sony CRT, playing video games on my old Pentium 3 using an old Nvidia video card and LCS glasses, creating and projecting 3-D, printing 3-D stereoscopic cards, etc, and there was much less cross-talk than the LG, so LG saying this is new technology that they're still improving is false.

Gabriel, little older and wiser,

I will have to advise to the bright room peformance later on. I had to box it back up and put a bow on it for the Kids. I will advise on December 26th unless I find another free night with no kids, which I may.

I was so excited and the picture was so good, I almost pulled an all nighter when I set it up watching 3D content and playing the 3D games.

What suprised me is my wife was impressed too! I had to pry the glasses off from her face to box them back up!

I do not know if the kids would have noticed that none of the 3D games and Movies were shrink wrapped anymore. I only dared to open one, anyway.

I'll let you know. The full width glass face is very impressive. The TV looks like a single sheet of tempered glass that is only 1/4" thick. Even the base is a 2.5" diameter piece of Lucite on a 10"x18" glass plate.

Best of luck. You can follow more on the PX series at the Official PX950 Owners Thread. I do not want to disrupt this thread anymore.

When I say replace, I mean replace with a Sony or Samsung, not another LG.

Gabriel,

I would return it and take the $300 loss. If you bought it mainly for the 3-D, in the long run you will be happy. I don't have much hope LG will improve things with firmware updates.

I only tried the 3-D on the LG after the exchange period was over. I will still attempt to return and get another non-LG model, even if I have to take a few hundred dollar loss. The cross-talk on the LG is not acceptable.

Gabriel

I know it is less than 100 hours.

I think your on to something. I did a search on warm LCD and came up with this very interesting thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=19581789

I think I will warm up my glasses and see if it helps. Maybe the TV and/or 3-D glasses need warming up. I wonder if those in warmer climates are seeing the same cross-talk issues!

gabriel3d

English Google Translation from article about heating TV and glasses.

http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/21352...rwarming-hoger!

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Enjoying 3DTV? Turn the heating up!

When we test regularly Hardware.Info 3DTV and here is our motto "knowledge is power '. Crosstalk - the phenomenon that the image on the left is also visible to the right eye and visa versa - to judge us in recent days, therefore, the experiment continued with various test patterns so that this problem has been well able to map. Crosstalk namely ensures blur, extra risk of headaches and poor depth of the 3D image.

Our first tests show here that the temperature of both the screen and also the glasses much influence on the amount of crosstalk. Both the LCD glass in the glasses, if pixels of the LCD screen can switch quickly to be developed in order to avoid disturbing crosstalk. And that LCD technology is rapidly switches could come degree the temperature is higher. The screen temperature is normal or mustache, the available backlight illumination causes most TVs that the temperature within a quarter are already above 25 degrees true.

Our tests show that the temperature of the glasses if possible even more influence on the amount of crosstalk, and thus to the viewing experience with 3D. When the glasses has to work at low temperatures below ten degrees shows that even when the screen televisions which can turn very quickly, much crosstalk occurs. Use the same glasses at room temperature, then crosstalk much less visible. A few degrees makes a difference as well, however much. At an ambient temperature of 18 degrees is clearly more visible than when we crosstalk as the glasses near the stove and put the temperature of the glass so to reach 24 degrees.

Which in practice this information should? Our tip is to roll your new 3DTV in a heated room as well. Leave the TV to warm up for at least fifteen minutes before you start looking 3D and put the 3D glasses for use near a radiator for something to warm them ... Many 3D viewing!

Yeah man your right I just couldnt get myself to make that final decision on it, I needed an outside source. It was an awesome price, bust my nuts that it wasnt all I thought it was gonna be for me. Its a good Tv but that crosstalk is the only real issue with it. Well Im gonna just chill with it tell I get the chance to pack it up and haul it out. Best of luck to you Gabe.

Not a terrible translation, I especially like the line: "The screen temperature is normal or mustache". I have a Van Dyke, so that's probably helps.

The glasses were always in the same room, so I assume, in my case, the warming of the TV was making a difference. I'll try warming the glasses as well. Putting them next to the exhaust port of the PS3 should do nicely.

I kind of screwed myself on the mount. I'm on a north facing exterior wall in the basement. Coolest spot in the house.

Maybe LG will give us all free hair dryers!

LG and give in the same sentance not followed by "a damn?" seems strange. unlike most of you i did not get any free glasses or bluray player so i get doubble shafted. at least its a damn good 2d game tv. if bloody expensive. it cost me the equivilent of more than $3000 us dollars.

Got the 55LX6500 2 months ago for my parents to watch primarily heavily compressed SD from satellite and online feeds.

The first priority was viewing angles. So VA panels like Samsung and Sharp were right out. I know the contrast is great, but what's the point when you move one cushion to the side and the picture looks different? And even if you sit right in the middle, you get great blacks and whites, and nothing in between i.e. black crush.

The TV would never be watched in complete darkness, and would need to perform well in strong lighting conditions. So no plasma and it had to be matte. Me personally - I love glossy screens. 5 years ago I went out of my way to get a glossy laptop (the norm now days) and a glossy monitor 4 years ago. I hate the gritty AR look. The 55LX9500 was my pick, but my mother absolutely hates reflections, so this was the only other option. Alas, there were no LED back-lit matte IPS panel TVs on the market in Australia. I said "let's wait for the LEX8". She said, life's too short. The edge-lit LX6500 was the next best thing.

The matte coating on the panel is actually very smooth and doesn't have the gritty look. Viewing angles are outstanding. No perceptible color shifts. Colour is outstanding. Local HD broadcasts look as if you're looking through a window. BTW, I'm slightly shortsighted. I need glasses to drive at night. But from 20 feet I can easily distinguish between HD and SD broadcasts on this set. (Here in Australia we have networks often pumping out the same content on their SD and HD channels. The downside is that you can see every scratch and blemish on old films.)

Judder, ghosting... To be honest I don't see them. Cranking up TruMotion, etc., seems to make no difference to me. What I do see is shimmer on outlines of moving objects. My solution is not to sit too close, turn down the backlight and sharpness. Other than that, I haven't played with the settings too much. In any case, all that my mother cares about is that it's big and bright, while the tweaks don't help much with compression artifacts.

Inky blacks are inky black... if you watch in daylight. At night, the edge lighting is noticeable in dark scenes. But this TV is almost never watched like that and the viewers are no videophiles (what's a Bluray?).

The only real bummer that I found is that streaming internet channels via DLNA does not seem to work. Streaming stored files is fine.

The menus are easy to work with, though there are little bits of Engrish here and there. For example, after installing new firmware and rebooting, a popup informs that "New firmware version XXXX is available" which really means that XXXX has been installed.

Every new firmware update seems to bring a new widget to Netcast. It started off only with Youtube, Weather and Bigpond, but they've divided and multiplied since. The widgets are not the fastest to navigate. Google Maps seems like an odd inclusion - moving around is painfully slow. There is no way of organizing or deleting widgets. I have no need for MLB.tv or Al Jazeera. Bigpond is a film streaming service like Netflix. The only title of note available for free was the SD version of "Ferris Bueller's Day Off", and it looked darn good.

3D has not been tried, and probably never will be. To me it seems like a standard option in high end cars. You get leather seats, whether you like it or not, just don't buy the car specifically for the seats. We got 2 pairs of 3D glasses and a Fuji W1 3D camera as part of the package. The camera will definitely go on Ebay. Maybe the glasses as well.

Well i just finished watching Coraline on 3d bluray and must say there was some ghosting in places but overall an enjoyable 3d experience. so thats 2 from 2 blurays with ghosting in places but not bad overall. so if i get 10 to 15% ghosting in a movie thats a figure i can live with for the enhanced enjoyment to be gained from 3d.

On a side note i always seem to get the ghosting on the right eye, anybody else have always right eye ghosting? and the trailer for despicable me looked neat in 3d, once again a little ghosting but overall not enough to ruin it.

For anyone who bought this set from conn's . Personally I would take the $300 hit, due to how bad this thing is with 3D, I've have dealings with conns on such issues, well just live and learn. Anyway I contacted LG and as per them ( there is no firmware for this issue and that's the way the unit perform, you can lessen the effect but will not get rid of it). That's LG for you. That's why I told my self that I would not ever buy an LG product since they have done this before. Listen everyone do your self a favor. if you want 3D buy the panasoninc 3D plasma there is no ghosting from what I've seen do the research.

I'm stuck with mine. I bought it on the internet from Adorama. I have bought camera equipment from them before and they have a decent return policy. One exception I had not noted was for TV > 22". They are not returnable.

Anyway, I said I was going to wait until the 3D's hit a price point. I usually research products to death, but I saw nothing close to my price range. Then I saw this thing popup at my price range w/4 glasses. I jumped on it without looking. Didn't even consult the wife (that didn't go over well). Now here I am attempting to make the best of it and warn others.

Here's something that came to me as a was grumbling about the 3D situation. I call it the Wal-Mart Electronics Theory. One should never buy a class of device until they are carried by Wal-Mart. Why? At that point they are mainstream. It implies three things. One, the technology has stabilized. Two, the "newness" has been priced out of them. Three, the technology has the backing of the world's largest retailer. FYI: This doesn't mean you have to buy it at Wal-Mart.

Wow, too funny, because this is similar to my situation. I was waiting for the price point to drop on 3-D TV's for awhile, when I saw the LG 6500 at a price too low to resist (came with Fuji 3-D camera, which I was going to buy anyways and 2 pairs of glasses). Didn't tell the wife (long story why) and then my wife took all my credit cards away, lol.

Back to the problematic TV, I heated up the living room (where the TV is) from 21C (71F) to 25C (77F) and I did see (I think) an improvement in the 3-D effect. Cross-over is still noticeable however. I would subjectively say it went from bad to acceptable.

Next thing I'm going to try is go back to 21C and just let the TV warm up longer. I want to see if it is the glasses and/or TV.

BTW, a way to see if the timing on your glasses, is to view a regular tube TV with them. You will see half of your tube TV blacked out with one eye, and the other portion of your tube TV blacked out with the other eye. That is when the LG is in 3-D mode and sending the signals to your glasses.

One thing I noticed is that blacked out portions on the tube TV are not completely blacked out, that means even if the glasses (assuming) are syncing properly, they will not block 100%. This brings up the question, is the problem the glasses or the TV?

The same glasses are used I believe for all the LG TV's. Does anyone know if the cross-over problem exists with the other LG 3D TV's?

gabriel3d

Wow everyone is jumping on this 3d is crap on this tv bandwagon. in my small experience with it i get cross talk in places and more so on some content than others. they need to put some controls in there for 3d because everyone has a differing focal point. but to jump up and down about the gimmicky part of this tv and overlook the great performance in other areas is a bit quick to judge. ask yourself how much 3d you will actually watch? I wont buy a samsung because of the amount of problems i have had with faulty products and i cant watch plasma, and sony 3d is not here yet where i live so this was the obvious choice. i say let them bring out some more content that was actually designed for 3d and get the tweaking right, if things still bug you after that sell this one cheep and buy what will then be the revised and better tec. but if no one buys these sets now there will be no revised tec at all.

Traded the Lg for a panny 65" plasma great reviews, from what I've seen the pic is very natural, not punchy and artificial like the lcd panel tv's, But I'm sure with some calibration the panny will do the best. Also on another note from my research panny seams to be the best on product support. But with my luck that may not be the case!!!!

Does anyone know what exactly the new firmware has done?

I saw this too and I'm thinking very seriously about sending back my 47" LG LCD for this 50" LG Plasma. Has anyone else yet who got the Amazon deal like me tried to send their TV back? Or, will Amazon take the entire package back (TV, glasses, BluRay player) for a full refund? I'm not confident the 3D on this LCD TV will ever match the 3D on their plasma TV.

If this happens, I would trade in a second.

Amazon has a full 30 day free return policy on TVs. They must be purchased direct from Amazon and not an Amazon Vendor. They even pay return shipping if you are not satisfied. You do return the whole package. Best of luck!

When I was looking I almost bougth the LX from Amazon just to check it out. The price on the PX dropped and I jumped. A 50"PX is now only $1199 with free shipping!!!!!

Sorry to tell you, they don't offer trade-ins they never had unless it's being done just recent. I've several LG products with appliances there great on support with electronic they stink. I should have known, well I was hoping on this last purchase, do to how great the deal was but no matter how good the deal is it has to perform properly, and this unit does not. For those who can't return their sets, best of luck!!!! For those that can look into the panny, avoid the samsung, sony , and ofcorse LG. Don't know how the sharp or toshiba does and there is also the mitz. Good hunting guys.