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post #301 of 411
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Really fantastic setup! And for the record, it's important that the carpet match the curtains....

Unless you're going with hardwood floors...


Wow this is coming together so nicely Mark! I hope you're getting that screen ready to rock for the party!
post #302 of 411
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Really fantastic setup! And for the record, it's important that the carpet match the curtains....

Very well stated. I like the way you think!!!


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Unless you're going with hardwood floors...


Wow this is coming together so nicely Mark! I hope you're getting that screen ready to rock for the party!

Ben, today is the day we assemble the screen. I am really excited. I am really impressed with the packaging and instructions from SMX. It is a first class setup and they have put a lot of time into the entire product from build to shipping!!
post #303 of 411
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I recieved the screen on Wednesday and unfortunately I could not put the screen together until Friday. I was really excited to get this baby in the room and to finally see my picture on something else other than a painted wall and cheap vinyl screen. I really thought I was not going to be happy with the screen until we put the frame together. WOW was I surprised. We had to take a photo to mark the occasion. That's the wife, our nieces daughter Kelsey, and me. I am 6' 5" if you get the picture (no pun intended). I will get a picture of the room in a little bit. You can also see in the background some cast ironwork which was installed in the media cabinet.




We really worked hard on the sound in this room and to date Mike Chafee probably has 5 hours invested. At the end of the day he asked me to re-install the Lexicon MC-8B in the rack for the audio processor. We worked real hard with the Yamaha RX-A3010 and quite honestly could not get it sounding the way he wanted. It has a lot of flexibility and settings but when it shut down when the system was cranked up we put it aside. The lexicon does not have any video switching so I am using the Yamaha piece to handle the video. Nice video switchers and pretty expensive so it is not a total waste. I am thinking maybe moving an Anthem processor in the rack but right now we are working with what we have.

The sound is unbelieveable. Yes without much accoustic management it is like sitting front row at a concert with sound quality. We had 150 people here at our home Saturday night for my birthday party and we had a chance to do a lot of demos of the room.
post #304 of 411
Lookin' awesome. Envious of your progress and results !
post #305 of 411
I am envious of his ceiling height.
post #306 of 411
The craftsmanship on that thing is AMAZING!

Oh, and the screen looks nice, too
post #307 of 411
so that doesnt look like a 10ft wide screen like you mentioned earlier....

if your 6'5" i'm putting that screen at 16:9, ~12 ft wide, ~84 inches tall.

close?

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I recieved the screen on Wednesday and unfortunately I could not put the screen together until Friday. I was really excited to get this baby in the room and to finally see my picture on something else other than a painted wall and cheap vinyl screen. I really thought I was not going to be happy with the screen until we put the frame together. WOW was I surprised. We had to take a photo to mark the occasion. That's the wife, our nieces daughter Kelsey, and me. I am 6' 5" if you get the picture (no pun intended). I will get a picture of the room in a little bit. You can also see in the background some cast ironwork which was installed in the media cabinet.




We really worked hard on the sound in this room and to date Mike Chafee probably has 5 hours invested. At the end of the day he asked me to re-install the Lexicon MC-8B in the rack for the audio processor. We worked real hard with the Yamaha RX-A3010 and quite honestly could not get it sounding the way he wanted. It has a lot of flexibility and settings but when it shut down when the system was cranked up we put it aside. The lexicon does not have any video switching so I am using the Yamaha piece to handle the video. Nice video switchers and pretty expensive so it is not a total waste. I am thinking maybe moving an Anthem processor in the rack but right now we are working with what we have.

The sound is unbelieveable. Yes without much accoustic management it is like sitting front row at a concert with sound quality. We had 150 people here at our home Saturday night for my birthday party and we had a chance to do a lot of demos of the room.
post #308 of 411
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Originally Posted by andymo View Post

Lookin' awesome. Envious of your progress and results !

thanks Andy, I am waiting for more of your renderings. Results were out of my control because I really did not have a plan We are happy though with the room.
post #309 of 411
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Originally Posted by longtimelurker View Post

so that doesnt look like a 10ft wide screen like you mentioned earlier....

if your 6'5" i'm putting that screen at 16:9, ~12 ft wide, ~84 inches tall.

close?

Busted, you know for once I undersized something instead of exaggerating. You are a pretty sharp guy with your math. The screen frame is 134.5 inches wide and 84 inches tall Thank you for the clarification on the size of the screen.


P.S. The ceiling heigth is 12 feet on the lower level.
post #310 of 411
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Ok my AVS friends, here are the first unprofessional photos taken of my nearly finished theater. I have a photographer coming out next week to take pictures of the house I have promised to post. I have this Nikon D60 and I got out my tri-pod and set the camera to a night setting with no flash. I have been meaning to take a class on how to use this camera but I just havn't had time. I use it more like a point and shoot camera than learning how to properly operate it.

My cabinet guy tells me it looks unfinished because the main speakers are exposed. I know it is not the traditional hide the mains behind the screen but as I have talked earlier I did not have the forethought to do this. Quite honestly they (to me) look good because I like to see big speakers. They do make covers that snap on the front but I have not looked into that yet. Willing to listen to opinions on this if you think they should be covered.

Way back in my thread I had a picture of these 1940's or 50's balustrade's. They are cast iron and weigh a ton. They came out of some very old railing. We were going to use them in the house for the railing on the second floor but decided against it. I got this idea we could use them in the media cabinet to give it that old look. I am a little bit of an eclectic decorator (definition of putting crap together that doesnt match) so it sounded like a good idea. The black cabinet has the gold brush strokes in it so we though we would try a predominatly gold look on the balustrades. I sand blasted and then had them black powercoated and then had the faux dude come back and put the brush on them. I am pretty happy. The sub is in the middle cabinet and I am working on some blue led lights to give it a little bit of a glow for effect. Not necessarily during a movie but just as an effect.

Let me know what you think. I got to where I am at by listening to opinions and I have gotten quite a few good leads on this forum. I would not be where I am without some of the advice from members.


post #311 of 411
Great work, I am subscribed to your thread. To answer your question, I would not cover the speakers. I too like the look of exposed speakers, even in my living-room. The only way I would cover the speakers is behind the screen where they belong for the best listening experience.
post #312 of 411
Awesome job, Mark!

post #313 of 411
Daaaaammmmmnnnn, that turned out SICK! What an absolute work of art. I like your definition of eclectic I wouldn't change a thing Mark!
post #314 of 411
Looks unbelievable. I really like the railing.

I'm going to cast a vote for covered speakers. I am a big proponent of backlighting an acoustically transparent screen to show speakers for effect, but the majority of the time I believe they should be hidden. Audio should be auditory and video should be visual. Just my two cents, though. They seem out of place. In your old, modern theater, it fit the style. In this old world style theater, they seem like they don't belong.
post #315 of 411
Mark,

The theater is absolutely amazing! I know you will get so much enjoyment out of it!

I'm jealous of your level of creativity!

This makes me want to start all over again!

As much as I love my theater room, I love the process of building it just as much!
post #316 of 411
I just finished reading the entire thread here, and I am very impressed. There were some ideas that I did not think would work out, some things that I thought would be ugly, but in the end, the room looks amazing.
BTW I vote for keeping the speakers visible. They look amazing and when the lights go down for a movie, you probably will not even see them.
post #317 of 411
For me this particular room is too sophisticated for exposed speakers (even though I too love the raw look of huge exposed speakers). The exposed speakers and the iron rails sort of detract from the elegance of the room IMHO. In a room with this much sonic ability I would be concerned with any audible interaction from the iron rails. If it were me I would certainly look into AT black mesh fabric coverings for all the speakers. There's no failing with a clean front wall, the screen/image should just float in front of you with nothing to distract and pull you out of the experience.

Just my .02

That said... this is one of the best looking HT's on AVS, be proud, very proud!

Jason
post #318 of 411
It looks fantastic.. I think the speaker issue is a matter of taste, I'd like to have the option of covering them up but as others have stated exposed can be just as attractive.. it's just a matter of what you enjoy. The metal grates at first glance although rustic and fitting for the room seemed like they may distract.. but after looking at the pic several times I can imagine with the lights down they are probably unnoticeable.. and going to a darker finish would ultimately defeat the purpose.. so I changed my mind mid-post - I like it as-is. The ceiling is killer!! Not sure if it is the perspective and/or angle of the photo, but that first row seems awfully close to the screen.. is it just me??

Look forward to seeing your HT in a magazine someday soon..
post #319 of 411
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Originally Posted by ccool96 View Post

Mark,

The theater is absolutely amazing! I know you will get so much enjoyment out of it!

I'm jealous of your level of creativity!

This makes me want to start all over again!

As much as I love my theater room, I love the process of building it just as much!

Yes it is the building and creativity that really makes it worthwhile. In my last home I redid my theater room 3 times in 12 years! As much thought as goes into all of our theaters we always have things we would like to change.
post #320 of 411
Incredible Job. Everything turned out great.
post #321 of 411
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Originally Posted by dRwOOD73 View Post

It looks fantastic.. I think the speaker issue is a matter of taste, I'd like to have the option of covering them up but as others have stated exposed can be just as attractive.. it's just a matter of what you enjoy. The metal grates at first glance although rustic and fitting for the room seemed like they may distract.. but after looking at the pic several times I can imagine with the lights down they are probably unnoticeable.. and going to a darker finish would ultimately defeat the purpose.. so I changed my mind mid-post - I like it as-is. The ceiling is killer!! Not sure if it is the perspective and/or angle of the photo, but that first row seems awfully close to the screen.. is it just me??

Look forward to seeing your HT in a magazine someday soon..

Thanks so much. While watching a movie the metal grates disappear in the dark but with the lights on as they are in this picture they really add some nice looking architecture. With the all black cabinet there is really not much to detract as I guess this is what we strive for. I did use a wide angle lens for this and shot the picture only a few feet behind the first row of seats. The viewing distance from the first row is a little shy of 11 feet. I certainly would not want to be any closer. This is one of those details I would probably have tweaked a little. I did plan on a bar height counter top with bar stools behind the 2nd row of seats which had me moving the riser forward. These theater seats really stretch out so a little bit more space and then there is the open rack in the back of the room. Heck, I really have room for a 3rd row of seats but I don't see the expense for the few times I might show a movie with a larger number of people.
post #322 of 411
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

For me this particular room is too sophisticated for exposed speakers (even though I too love the raw look of huge exposed speakers). The exposed speakers and the iron rails sort of detract from the elegance of the room IMHO. In a room with this much sonic ability I would be concerned with any audible interaction from the iron rails. If it were me I would certainly look into AT black mesh fabric coverings for all the speakers. There's no failing with a clean front wall, the screen/image should just float in front of you with nothing to distract and pull you out of the experience.

Just my .02

That said... this is one of the best looking HT's on AVS, be proud, very proud!

Jason

thanks Jason, appreciate your opinion and it does have some valid points. I did break some rules in my HT as there are conflicting issues going on here. I am not done with the room.....just relieved I can enjoy movies in a room with a screen, carpet, and chairs.
post #323 of 411
I have looked through so many builds over the last few months and yours is by far my favorite. I love how it is unique and different. I just tore my theater room down from 7 years ago that I built. Seeing your masterpiece makes me glad I did. I was not happy with so many things, and in the future when I rebuild it I want to really think it through and make it different and improve on things.

I love the way exposed speakers look in general, but with your setup I personally would cover them. But either way your set-up looks amazing!!! Thanks for sharing your build and I hope it sounds as good as it looks.
post #324 of 411
Ok Mark - come out of the theater for a few minutes and show us those final photos!
post #325 of 411
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Originally Posted by Aiden Chase View Post

I have looked through so many builds over the last few months and yours is by far my favorite. I love how it is unique and different. I just tore my theater down...............

I love the way exposed speakers look in general, but with your setup I personally would cover them. But either way your set-up looks amazing!!! Thanks for sharing your build and I hope it sounds as good as it looks.

Thank you so much. I have been out of touch here for a few weeks. I had been working non stop on the theater room to get it ready for my party on the 21st of January. We had a car show up in Indiana last weekend so after I cleaned up for the party I spent about 80 hours on the hotrod getting it ready for the show. Obsession seems to be the best way I can accomplish projects.

I have done two previous theater rooms..........neither one on the scale of my current theater but I pretty much started just like you. I tore down first and then figured it out later. I will be working on removable covers for the speakers as it will give me two looks.
post #326 of 411
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Ok Mark - come out of the theater for a few minutes and show us those final photos!

Ben, thanks for giving me a little push. I am back obsessing on the house again. I have been holding some pictures of the outside of the house until I had all of the inside pictures done. It will be another week until I get them so I thought I would share a couple pictures of the outside. I hope this does not offend any of the guys who just want to see audio stuff. I know I like to see pictures of other peoples stuff just in case I can steal a good idea or two

This picture is my favorite outdoor picture. It is 2:35 to 1 because the photograper stitched two photos together. He had pictures of the house and then of the garage but I wanted to see both together. We have 4 acre's where my brother, mom, and I have homes............a family compound so to speak. There is a 8' tall concrete wall around our property so it gives that feeling.
I do want to note that the garage was designed FIRST and then the architecture of the house was taken from the garage. My real dream was to build a castle looking house but the construction would be been astronomical so I settled for an "Old World" look. I did want to have towers like a castle so they became square instead of round. Square looked better and also easier to build, decorate, ect. The tower in the garage was originally designed to go to a second floor apartment but we decided to keep the apartment on the first floor. The tower is 10 x 10 and became the bedroom. The ceiling in there is 22 feet tall so it was a pretty cool place to sleep. My wife and I lived in the garage for almost 2 years. The first year while building my mom's place and the second year to build the home you see pictured. What a blessing it was to live right next door to my old build. We more or less designed both structures. Yes, we did have two architects to put our ideas on paper. Florida has very stringent building codes. Altough I am not a licensed contractor I acted as the general contractor...............all of the subs were top notch so they pretty much bailed me out in terms of knowing exactly what to do.




Big grand Oak trees make the setting



As you can see some of these photo's have been enhanced. This is the back of the home. We built about 200 feet of 6 foot tall retaining wall between the pond, house, and garage.

post #327 of 411
Hello Mark,

What great photos of your finished home & garage. I too like to see a bit more than the theaters. Yours is certainly at the top of the list to be envious of.

You've done a masterful job on everything! Much enjoyment ahead I'm sure.

Dale
post #328 of 411
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Hello Mark,

What great photos of your finished home & garage. I too like to see a bit more than the theaters. Yours is certainly at the top of the list to be envious of.

You've done a masterful job on everything! Much enjoyment ahead I'm sure.

Dale

Dale, thank you so much. We still have a lot of detail work to do but that is the fun of it. I am a project guy and it gives me something to do I very much enjoy.
post #329 of 411
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A friend of mine brought his camera over and we are getting some good results. Well, actually he is getting some good results. This photo was taken 5 different times with different exposures then he put them together. I have more to come. Shot this picture with the drapes open and this demonstrates why I wanted a window in the media room. Our pond is just outside and the lighted fountain at night is beautiful to look at.

post #330 of 411
Looks fantastic. Beautiful house and theater!!
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