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post #211 of 6610
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Originally Posted by jjchen330ci View Post

I got my delivery yesterday from US Appliance.

the 55NX810 is a beautiful pieces of equipment. The finish and color/image quality is much better than V5100 or EX701 that I owned.

However, my 55NX810 have small black/dim spot (about size of 1/4" circle area) about center of the screen. I though it was a dirt at first. but it is not. it is quit upsetting to have new TV come in with defect!!!!

Sony will not replace it until Sony Technician come to try to evaluate or repair. I will get this a chance. if they can't repair to my satisfactory, I will demand a replacement or refund.

I am not spend few thousand to settle on something that is not perfect.

I think it's a known issue w/ the panels. Some have flaws. My guess is sony repair will fix it quick, and it'll be fine. Sony doesn't want unhappy customers, so I've learned. Hence, I buy sony.
post #212 of 6610
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Originally Posted by John Carmichael View Post

So I asked the Sony support guy who solved that problem. He told me how to reset the TV to its factory settings, and that fixed everything and also left the new software update in place.

Curious, what is the magic menu item/key sequence for doing a factory reset on the TV?
post #213 of 6610
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Originally Posted by topr View Post

^Monoprice is calling them "high speed" cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

And that's probably the right thing to call them. In version 1.3 of HDMI, they officially defined Category 1 (75MHz-capable) and Category 2 (340MHz-capable) cable standards, because they also added a bunch of stuff to the spec that required much higher bandwidth to support. Technically, a "standard speed" 75MHz cable is an HDMI 1.3-compliant cable... it conforms to the specification, it's just a slower cable (can't do deep color, etc). So "standard speed" and "high speed" is the right terminology to use, IMO. Only possible exception I could see is if an existing high-speed cable doesn't implement pin 19 correctly... that's technically an optional pin in the spec, but is required if you want to do Ethernet-over-HDMI. I don't know what equipment out there actually uses that, though.
post #214 of 6610
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Originally Posted by ProtocolOH View Post

Curious, what is the magic menu item/key sequence for doing a factory reset on the TV?

Stand on the remote for 60 seconds. Then remove the batteries, unplug the TV and that's it
post #215 of 6610
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Originally Posted by topr View Post

^Monoprice is calling them "high speed" cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I just bought a pair for 2.27 delvd from someone on ebay. Using my ebay bucks it came to .59 centavos. It specifically says 1.4 HEC. Wonder how that compares to the 1.50 cheapies I got from meritline. They look just fine, but the 20.00 ones they look really good. Now the 100.00 monster cables WOw!.
If you want 12 ft cables(in the wall installation, and such). You have to pay more. I think. But in the end. I'm confident I have figured out the HDMI conundrum and can move on, not having to agonize over debate.
1. WHen you buy 3-d a/v componants they should have 1.4(a) connectors(because it 's assuminng 1.4 cables are used and 1.4 supports 3-d by definition).
This has been confirmed umpteen times.
2. The HDMI cables, now that's the debate. In the very end it turns out that it's terminology and trial and error. Meaning, if using high speed cables that support 3-d they don't neccesarily have to be 1.4 cables. "high speed" should work. 1.3 might work if they're extraordinary, but you won't be sure. Buying 1.4 cables should eliminate confusion so IMHO go w./ that.
3. The 1.4 + Ethernet, well.. A lot of us would like to see examples of it's use.
I'm speculating that you would need an hdmi port in your router. It can be used for componants that don't have wireless, but I can't imagine that yet. I'd like to see an example or an explanation of the example posted on here.
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hec.aspx

My guess is it supports the case where you want higher speed performance than wireless from the componants.

Please comment, critisize or correct as needed.

Added this just for fun..
This means that a HEC-enabled device--such as a broadband-connected television--can provide internet connection sharing with another HEC-enabled device such as a DVR or a future gaming console. There will be other future applications for HEC as well that may allow device-to-device content distribution through a home HEC-enabled network.

The drawback to the new HDMI 1.4 specs is that current HDMI cables aren't compatible. Consumers will need to purchase a new cable designed specifically for v1.4; unused wires found in current cable will be replaced with a twisted pair wire structure. As it is, current HDMI cables aren't exactly cheap, and to make matters worse, the upcoming HDMI 1.4 specs will come in two flavors: low-data rate and high-data rate. Hopefully, third parties will swoop in and provide cost-effective versions once HDMI 1.4 overtakes the market.

Despite the new cables however, the group reported that 1.4's Audio Return Channel support will not require the new 1.4 cables, working on existing cable setups. While the upcoming ARC feature eliminates the optical connection, end-users will not have access to DTS HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD formats, but rather all current lossy audio formats instead.

As previously mentioned, the new 1.4 specs will ramp up the output resolution, add color space used by digital cameras (for correct image presentation), and even provide future 3D support, all done through 1.4's Automatic Content Enhancement (ACE) feature. The HDMI group also said that a heavy-duty version of HDMI technology is heading to automobiles for high-def audio and video distribution. Called the Automotive Connection System (ACS), this version of HDMI will offer an inter-locking
post #216 of 6610
Just got my 55NX810 yesterday, delivered from US Appliance. No problems with the set or PS3. I replaced a Pioneer Elite Pro1130 because my son has just started to play video games, and there was no way I was allowing it on my plasma. Overall, the Sony cant hold a candle to the 768p Pioneer. The sound from the Sony is embarassing. It really is that bad. Whoever approved those speakers should lose their job. The picture is pretty good with SD and HD signals, but it just looks average to me. Its a complete light controlled environment, and I adjusted the television with the custom mode. I'm satisfied with the purchase though. I got exactly what I expected from an LCD display with the know drawbacks of todays panels. It just doesnt have the clarity and depth as what I have been accustomed to.
post #217 of 6610
When did you place your order? I just ordered mine today and would like to know when mine will arrive.

Thanks,
Mike
post #218 of 6610
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Originally Posted by franknbean View Post

When did you place your order? I just ordered mine today and would like to know when mine will arrive.

Well, here's my timeline:
Mon 10/18, late evening - I place my order online, get order confirmation
Wed 10/20, morning - I get my official sales receipt/invoice
Mon 10/25, afternoon - I get notice that my order has shipped
Tue 10/26 - Shipping company's tracker says my order was picked up in Plainville, IN

So my status hasn't changed since Tuesday. They list an expected delivery date of 11/1 to 11/12, so I'm guessing that they'll call me early to middle next week to set a delivery time. They say that orders should ship out 2-3 days after official acceptance of the order (i.e. when you get your invoice, not merely the acknowledgement of the online order), and you should receive it 7-10 days after that. Some folks have already gotten their US Appliance orders, so obviously some people either got in line first, or happen to live closer to where the merchandise was warehoused, heh.
post #219 of 6610
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Originally Posted by wiraca View Post

Just got my 55NX810 yesterday, delivered from US Appliance. No problems with the set or PS3. I replaced a Pioneer Elite Pro1130 because my son has just started to play video games, and there was no way I was allowing it on my plasma. Overall, the Sony cant hold a candle to the 768p Pioneer. The sound from the Sony is embarassing. It really is that bad. Whoever approved those speakers should lose their job. The picture is pretty good with SD and HD signals, but it just looks average to me. Its a complete light controlled environment, and I adjusted the television with the custom mode. I'm satisfied with the purchase though. I got exactly what I expected from an LCD display with the know drawbacks of todays panels. It just doesnt have the clarity and depth as what I have been accustomed to.

Not to hijack this thread but to anyone that's new to owning a 2010 Sony television; go into the sound settings and set custom mode so you can have access to the built in equalizer. The factory default on these sets is flat-line across the freq bands which is kind of ridiculous. If you want to improve the sound you'll need to adjust those sliders. Word to the wise, typically it's the 200 Hz to 1 kHz bands that have the most impact (contribution) to chassis related resonances so don't jack anything "up" but rather work to lower the freq bands that pollute your unique listening experience and make things unpleasant sounding. If you think picture calibration is a bear, just remember that acoustics is even more subjective and highly influenced by the listening environment - translated - there's no one size fits all with regard to the sound settings. If your set is sounding a bit like a tin can in a public restroom, just crank down those center bands and watch the sound take on a whole new character. You won't get that trademark XBR sound quality of recent-years-past but you can dramatically improve the sound quality that emanates from those downward firing drivers.
post #220 of 6610
Awesome, thanks! Guess it might be two weeks.. Let us know when you receive it!!!

Mike
post #221 of 6610
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Originally Posted by amatot View Post

Not to hijack this thread but to anyone that's new to owning a 2010 Sony television; go into the sound settings and set custom mode so you can have access to the built in equalizer. The factory default on these sets is flat-line across the freq bands which is kind of ridiculous. If you want to improve the sound you'll need to adjust those sliders. Word to the wise, typically it's the 200 Hz to 1 kHz bands that have the most impact (contribution) to chassis related resonances so don't jack anything "up" but rather work to lower the freq bands that pollute your unique listening experience and make things unpleasant sounding. If you think picture calibration is a bear, just remember that acoustics is even more subjective and highly influenced by the listening environment - translated - there's no one size fits all with regard to the sound settings. If your set is sounding a bit like a tin can in a public restroom, just crank down those center bands and watch the sound take on a whole new character. You won't get that trademark XBR sound quality of recent-years-past but you can dramatically improve the sound quality that emanates from those downward firing drivers.

i would assume hx909 might sound a bit better than nx810?

btw where are people buying high speed 1.4v hdmi cables
post #222 of 6610
The sound from the 55NX810 is so bad that I am thinking about picking up the optional stand with speaker (SU-B550S).

Reading from the manual, the speaker from the base will connect to the HDMI 1 with ARC,the speaker will be control by the TV remote and automatically detect signal from HDMI 1. But what about signal from HDMI 4?

My PS3 will setup using HDMI 1, but my FIOS TV is using HDMI 4. would the speaker will automaticlly pick signal from HDMI 4?

I want to make sure the speaker from the stand will response to all HDMI inputs before I place the order, since I can't find this stand at any of local Sony store to demo.

any comment will be great,

thank you
post #223 of 6610
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Originally Posted by jjchen330ci View Post

The sound from the 55NX810 is so bad that I am thinking about picking up the optional stand with speaker (SU-B550S).

Reading from the manual, the speaker from the base will connect to the HDMI 1 with ARC,the speaker will be control by the TV remote and automatically detect signal from HDMI 1. But what about signal from HDMI 4?

My PS3 will setup using HDMI 1, but my FIOS TV is using HDMI 4. would the speaker will automaticlly pick signal from HDMI 4?

I want to make sure the speaker from the stand will response to all HDMI inputs before I place the order, since I can't find this stand at any of local Sony store to demo.

any comment will be great,

thank you

that is the extreme disadvantage of skinny tvs

where is the stand itself?

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...dg_acc_gglsrch
post #224 of 6610
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

i would assume hx909 might sound a bit better than nx810?

I don't think a lot of emphasis was placed on internal speakers on any of the 2010 models. Just because the HX909 is considered flagship doesn't necessarily mean it has upgraded speakers. I'd be willing to bet that all the mid-line Sony's use the same basic speakers. Who knows, maybe the entire line up shares them. It is definitely a commodity component. Built in speakers are really more utilitarian than anything else, with manfacturers knowing that most setups these days include some sort of connected AV surround component.

My suggestion earlier was just to help those folks out that do in fact use their internal speakers and want to rid themselves of chassis resonances and/or that tin can sound when they're not doing the full fledged home-theater gig. Adding a sound bar or other facility is certainly an option - albeit an added expense.
post #225 of 6610
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

that is the extreme disadvantage of skinny tvs

where is the stand itself?

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...dg_acc_gglsrch

this is the stand I am looking for, I think it is better solution than turn on my home theater just to watch news.....really don't want to turn the surround on for just regular TV viewing.

anyone have try it? does response to all HDMI input?
post #226 of 6610
ok got my 55nx810 , cant afford the 3d extras yet but also i am now wondering if my sony ht is100 home theater system has 3d passthru or 1.4 hdmi, do i need that or just hispeed 1.3 , I have another sony lcd that i use just comcast hdmi cables with but it is a 60 hz , do i need better cables for the nx810 and do i need home theater system that supports 3d. sorry i am helicopter mech and not av savvy
post #227 of 6610
I am a new owner. I have the 46" model.
How do I fix the problem where the TV leans to the left a little when assembled with the included stand?
As reported by this other user John Carmichael (sorry, did not see solution posted):

I would post a link to that post, but it's prohibited by forum rules (1st 3 posts). The post I am referring to is #157 in this thread.
post #228 of 6610
Got the 55 incher today, will post my thoughts in a day or so.
post #229 of 6610
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Originally Posted by ProtocolOH View Post

Curious, what is the magic menu item/key sequence for doing a factory reset on the TV?

Hi ProtocolOH

You have to be careful, according to Sony, when you do a software update using a flash thumb drive, or you can damage your TV!

Read very carefully the download and installation instructions on this Sony support webpage:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...=6177&os_id=25

I understand that it is NOT possible to force an update using the wired or wireless Network connection. Software updates via the Network ONLY occur when the TV is asleep in standby mode! Since a reliable Network connection depended on having the new software update installed, I was forced to do the update using a flash thumb drive.

Oh, speaking of USB thumbdrives, The USB photo, music, and video player in the TV works GREAT!!! Very easy to use and the photo and videos on the thumb drive look FANTASTIC! Accessing and viewing the photos and movies that are on my Home Network computers is just as easy. Sony did a great job with these features.

I really only have three complaints with this great TV. I can live with these because the picture is so good.

1. The PIP feature isn't user friendly and has many limitations.
2. The stand is wobbly (not a issue with wall mounts)
3. The screen is reflective (unavoidable these days. Seems that all the new TVs now have reflective screens. Not an issue in a dark room)
post #230 of 6610
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Originally Posted by John Carmichael View Post

I understand that it is NOT possible to force an update using the wired or wireless Network connection. Software updates via the Network ONLY occur when the TV is asleep in standby mode! Since a reliable Network connection depended on having the new software update installed, I was forced to do the update using a flash thumb drive.

Oh, speaking of USB thumbdrives, The USB photo, music, and video player in the TV works GREAT!!! Very easy to use and the photo and videos on the thumb drive look FANTASTIC! Accessing and viewing the photos and movies that are on my Home Network computers is just as easy. Sony did a great job with these features.

I really only have three complaints with this great TV. I can live with these because the picture is so good.

1. The PIP feature isn't user friendly and has many limitations.
2. The stand is wobbly (not a issue with wall mounts)
3. The screen is reflective (unavoidable these days. Seems that all the new TVs now have reflective screens. Not an issue in a dark room)

Hi John,

what video format were you able to play off USB thumb drive? I try to play MKV and AVI files, no luck at all. none of file show up. I gonna try MP4 shortly. just wonder what file type were you use.

thanks
post #231 of 6610
What wallmount are you owners using?

This is sony's solution to samsung led mounts:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...ab=featuresTab

Too expensive though, as no retailers online are reselling them.
post #232 of 6610
Just received 60NX810 and design is absolutely beautiful! 90% of the edge of the TV is only 1.375" thick, slightly flaring at bottom and thicker at point of attachment of base.
post #233 of 6610
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Originally Posted by dondealjr View Post

Just received 60NX810 and design is absolutely beautiful! 90% of the edge of the TV is only 1.375" thick, slightly flaring at bottom and thicker at point of attachment of base.

Congrats on an Outstanding purchase decision. Enjoy!. Let us know what you think. I love my 60nx810, welcome to the board, now learn how to use the thing and post!
post #234 of 6610
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Originally Posted by John Carmichael View Post

Hi ProtocolOH

You have to be careful, according to Sony, when you do a software update using a flash thumb drive, or you can damage your TV!

Read very carefully the download and installation instructions on this Sony support webpage:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...=6177&os_id=25

I understand that it is NOT possible to force an update using the wired or wireless Network connection. Software updates via the Network ONLY occur when the TV is asleep in standby mode! Since a reliable Network connection depended on having the new software update installed, I was forced to do the update using a flash thumb drive.

Oh, speaking of USB thumbdrives, The USB photo, music, and video player in the TV works GREAT!!! Very easy to use and the photo and videos on the thumb drive look FANTASTIC! Accessing and viewing the photos and movies that are on my Home Network computers is just as easy. Sony did a great job with these features.

I really only have three complaints with this great TV. I can live with these because the picture is so good.

1. The PIP feature isn't user friendly and has many limitations.
2. The stand is wobbly (not a issue with wall mounts)
3. The screen is reflective (unavoidable these days. Seems that all the new TVs now have reflective screens. Not an issue in a dark room)

John, glad you like the TV. I like mine as well. I could swear sony-guy updated the firmware using "force". But it is possible he put it in standby while I wasn't looking. When you say the stand is wobbly, what does that mean?. Mine is not wobbly. My dog hits the stand all the time. I tried knocking it over a little, but I think someone would have to fall on it or "try" to knock it over. How did you get PIP to work?. One poster on here swears they've tried everything but insists there is NO pip in this set. Says false advertiseing(my read anyway)..
post #235 of 6610
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Originally Posted by jjchen330ci View Post

this is the stand I am looking for, I think it is better solution than turn on my home theater just to watch news.....really don't want to turn the surround on for just regular TV viewing.

anyone have try it? does response to all HDMI input?

Multiple users have tried it, and all like it. Search the threads, can't remember where I saw the reviews.
post #236 of 6610
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Originally Posted by Jawad View Post

What wallmount are you owners using?

This is sony's solution to samsung led mounts:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...ab=featuresTab

Too expensive though, as no retailers online are reselling them.

awesome post. will read again.
post #237 of 6610
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Originally Posted by topr View Post

^Monoprice is calling them "high speed" cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Probably right w/ the cables. I'm using 6ft 1.3 1.50 meritlines w/ my PC works fine. works fine w/ the TV as well. the connectors might not be as fancy and they might "break" in 2 years but so what?..Haven't tried 3-d yet but confident the "high speed, 3-d capable jobies will be just fine., but you guys are right about those "expensive cables being BS". These 20 buck cables are going back to costco where they belong. Have no use for HEC and if I did they're 2.50 on ebay - thx for the enlightenment.
post #238 of 6610
Just dimantled my kdl60nx810. There are RFID transponder devices built in. I was wondering why all the traffic in front of my house all of the sudden..check it out and get back to me. There's 2 small speakers in there sounds good with the shell off. Successfully removed the transponder devices, but there might be more once I take the boards out and hotwire the bravia engines.
post #239 of 6610
I am shopping for two more pairs of glasses for my kids, while I impatiently wait for my 55NX810 to arrive (just ordered yesterday). Do I have to use Sony glasses on a Sony 3d tv? Or can another TV brand of glasses work on A Sony?

Thanks,
Mike
post #240 of 6610
Hi, does anyone have any info on input lag on the NX810?. I'm keen to get one, but no reviews are up yet. Thanks
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