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post #3151 of 6573
So my current setup is:

Sony a2000 50 inch rear projection HDTV
PS3
Tivo HD
Sony HTCT-500 sound bar

I run the PS3 and the Tivo via HDMI to the sound bar and then from the sound bar to the TV.

So today Sony offered me the 55 inch NX810 LCD as a replacement for my failing a2000 and I am primed to pull the trigger on the offer ($660 plus tax)

I believe the NX810 is 3D capable via an emitter. Though i am not totally sold on 3D i may purchase the glasses and the emitter at some future date.

Do I need the HTCT-350 (or 150) to pass through 3D to NX810? Cause if I have to replace the CT-500 it might be a deal breaker for me.

Does the fact that the new TV enables 3D via this external emitter mean I can keep my current setup? Or does someone want to buy my brand new ct-500??

I am posting this in the HTCT-350 forum as well...

Thanks
post #3152 of 6573
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Originally Posted by screwey View Post

I received my 55NX810 from Sony Style a week ago. Noticed that it had the two "black dots" that were fairly visible. Coincidentally, the serial number started with 5 as the others were reported. Decided to contact Sony for a return, and they picked up the defective one today.

Sony's policy (today, it seems) is that the sets should pass in the mail, as they were unable to send out a new set prior to verification of receipt of the original set.

So, now I sit with no TV, no guarantees of receiving anything but another defective set...

Seriously rethinking the purchase, both the brand and the mode. I'll probably keep with Sony through this ordeal, based on the "combo" purchase. But, I'll certainly investigate other venues for further purchases.

I just recommended this TV (KDL-60NX810) to a friend and now am finding out about the "black dots" problem. Is this a major issue or only something found on a few/earlier sets? His is on backorder and won't be in until mid March, has Sony fixed the problem for newer sets?
post #3153 of 6573
Sorry I'm a 3D noob here. Do I have to buy the a specific Sony emitter for use with the NX810 or are there other (and possibly better options)? I was at Belmont TV today trying to check out the NX810 and he mentioned that I would have to buy the Sony specific emitter for the NX810.
post #3154 of 6573
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Originally Posted by maximum360 View Post

Sorry I'm a 3D noob here. Do I have to buy the a specific Sony emitter for use with the NX810 or are there other (and possibly better options)? I was at Belmont TV today trying to check out the NX810 and he mentioned that I would have to buy the Sony specific emitter for the NX810.

You have to use the Sony emitter, but you can use non-Sony glasses (like XpanD 103 glasses).


Max
post #3155 of 6573
Anyone got a photo on what these black dots look like please
post #3156 of 6573
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

Well my replacement will be delivered tomorrow. Sony even arranged white glove service.

hope all goes well, chdwil.
post #3157 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Zoglog View Post


I think crosstalk is just worse with some things than other. Killzone 3 in 3D has very little that I can tell. GT5, it's all over the place,.

For me Killzone looks really bad in 3D. Convergence is completely off in 0. Even with +2 it doesn't look nearly as good as Cod black ops. Has anyone contacted Sony if there will be a FW update to fix it?
post #3158 of 6573
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Originally Posted by dojoman View Post

For me Killzone looks really bad in 3D. Convergence is completely off in 0. Even with +2 it doesn't look nearly as good as Cod black ops. Has anyone contacted Sony if there will be a FW update to fix it?

Crosstalk is for the most part a hardware limitation and also a source problem. A FW update isn't going to decrease crosstalk.

As I already detailed, the major reason we see crosstalk on the NX810 is because the LCD panels just can't twist on/off fast enough. The visibility of crosstalk is affected by the quality of the source material. Some movies for instance are filmed and produced to ensure minimal crosstalk (like Resident Evil: Afterlife), while others don't do such a good job.

Some 3D material shows crosstalk even on plasma displays because it isn't done very well, but in the specific case of the NX810 vs say the VT25, the NX810 will show crosstalk on things where you see none with the VT25, and that is unfortunately the limitation of the LCD panel's response time (compared to the much faster on/off refresh rate of the plasma phosphors, which in the VT25's case are in the order of greater than 10X faster). Unfortunately, a firmware update isn't going to change the panel's hardware limitations.

As I mentioned in a post above, IF the new Sony panels are true 480Hz panels, they could potentially eliminate most of the crosstalk that is not source dependent.


Max
post #3159 of 6573
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post


Sorry to hear but rest easy it will get fixed. Many have had their panels replaced w/o the option of returning. On the 5's theory.. I bought a 60"er from sony style it starts with a 5. I think we can dispell the myth that 5's are any better than 8's or vice versa. the whole rumor stared when poster reported that during the course of a chat the rep was surprised because 5's go to Canada. and 8's goto the US. Pretty sure they're all hecho en Mexico.

I remember when I was a kid SONY was the king of electronics especially in the 80s. Im from Hungary living in NYC since 1991 and everytime my dad was buying new electronics it had to be Sony(Made in Japan). I still have a radio from those times and the thing works like new.
post #3160 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Aquayonex View Post
I WOULD exchange, but they're out so I can't... Thats the ONLY reason why.
GREAT NEWS! Amazon just got more back in stock so they are sending me an exchange. Really happy, just hope the replacement is good. Some of you may remember, my current one has an issue where the power source buzzes on the TV itself.
post #3161 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Z0idberg
Hey Guys
Can someone out there tell me whats the better TV - Sony 55HX800 or Sony 55NX810 and why?

Im in Australia and going by the compare specs page -

http://www.sony.com.au/product/Compa...ls=KDL-55NX810

The HX800 is the better TV hands down, from its better speakers to its deep black panel, deep colour and dynamic backlight control where the NX810 does not have these features.

Tho the NX810 has a sexy desing and built in WiFi it costs more here. Why?

Also for those of you that have the Speaker Stand SU-B550S for your NX810, does the TV have to be on a 6 degree upward angle to use this stand? Can it just be on the stand but in the normal position?

Hope someone out there can be honest and tell me what TV to go for and why plus info on the stand.

Thanks in advance

Zoidy
I was debating on same TV sets. I went to sonystyle.com and compared the 2 then I wrote out on a paper some of the features that were confusing and called Sony tech support team. They explained the difference and I was able to choose that features that were more for me. Over all they are same TVs. The only thing though, Sony sales rep told me that the NX810 is a second generation 3D.
post #3162 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Zoglog
Wow... a couple of months after hours of wasted time calling and still no filters. Sony customer support is complete rubbish........
I got my filter in about a month
post #3163 of 6573
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Originally Posted by broodwich View Post
I'm well aware. Next year you will be able to get the HX929 in a 60 inch model.
Next year I could be lying down staring up..No regrets.
post #3164 of 6573
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Originally Posted by LuV2SPD View Post
I was debating on same TV sets. I went to sonystyle.com and compared the 2 then I wrote out on a paper some of the features that were confusing and called Sony tech support team. They explained the difference and I was able to choose that features that were more for me. Over all they are same TVs. The only thing though, Sony sales rep told me that the NX810 is a second generation 3D.
When I read the comparison that the link takes me to, I see the nx810 as the better unit. hands down. No brainer.
post #3165 of 6573
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post
Next year I could be lying down staring up..No regrets.
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Originally Posted by broodwich View Post
I'm well aware. Next year you will be able to get the HX929 in a 60 inch model.
Actually, it's a 65 inch model.

See, e.g., http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-200...html?tag=rtcol
post #3166 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Shaun. View Post
I just recommended this TV (KDL-60NX810) to a friend and now am finding out about the "black dots" problem. Is this a major issue or only something found on a few/earlier sets? His is on backorder and won't be in until mid March, has Sony fixed the problem for newer sets?
Not one report from a 60" owner about "spots". The spots are imperfections in the panel. A few 55" owners have reported these problems but not to the point where I'd call it a mjor problem.. I think you'd see the same issues regardless of TV makers.
post #3167 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Bruce M. View Post
Actually, it's a 65 inch model.

See, e.g., http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-200...html?tag=rtcol
crap..might have to get one of those...very nice.
post #3168 of 6573
NX810 = $
HX929 = $$$

A newer version will be better than the HX929 scheduled next year My next upgrade is going to be 2 or 3+ years down the road...I'm glad I didn't spend a bucket load on the NX810.

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crap..might have to get one of those...very nice.
post #3169 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Bruce M. View Post

Actually, it's a 65 inch model.

See, e.g., http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-200...html?tag=rtcol

Thanks for the link. From the description, it looks like the 480Hz might be a 240Hz panel with scanning backlight instead of a true 480Hz panel. If it was a 480Hz panel, they would have made a much bigger fuss about it than just saying it "features a precisely controlled backlight" for motion dejudder, and separately stating that they "beefed up the response times to reduce crosstalk".

A true 480Hz is big deal and they would have stated it as such.

I'm with MySassyGirl, I'll update in a few years when 3D has taken the next step. Actually, I'll probably get a new projector to use with the DaLite Hi Power screen I've got. 3D looks so much better with a huge image (anywhere from 3-4x the size of a 65"). There are a couple of decent 3D projectors already in the market right now. Can't wait to see what they have 3-4 years from now.


Max
post #3170 of 6573
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Originally Posted by djbluemax1 View Post

Thanks for the link. From the description, it looks like the 480Hz might be a 240Hz panel with scanning backlight instead of a true 480Hz panel. If it was a 480Hz panel, they would have made a much bigger fuss about it than just saying it "features a precisely controlled backlight" for motion dejudder, and separately stating that they "beefed up the response times to reduce crosstalk".

A true 480Hz is big deal and they would have stated it as such.

I'm with MySassyGirl, I'll update in a few years when 3D has taken the next step. Actually, I'll probably get a new projector to use with the DaLite Hi Power screen I've got. 3D looks so much better with a huge image (anywhere from 3-4x the size of a 65"). There are a couple of decent 3D projectors already in the market right now. Can't wait to see what they have 3-4 years from now.


Max

I gotta admit I was expecting much more 3d content. Very dissapointed at how quick the TV's are out yet the content lags. Unless something mindblowing comes out I'll probably own the 60nx810 till it drops. Just like my last 3 SONY's. I am glad that I went for the xttra $$ and got the 60 instead of the 55. When I look at 55's they look small. The 12 incher still works but not that good
post #3171 of 6573
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Well my replacement will be delivered tomorrow. Sony even arranged white glove service.

cool. hope all goes well. I'd beat the crap out of the bad one while there's still time. change the settings, try and crash it. Let us know what white glove service really is. I can read but I'm curiouse as to how it differs from no glove. Maybe they'll wear white gloves? I'm sure they'd get dirty real quick but who knows?
post #3172 of 6573
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

I gotta admit I was expecting much more 3d content. Very dissapointed at how quick the TV's are out yet the content lags. Unless something mindblowing comes out I'll probably own the 60nx810 till it drops. Just like my last 3 SONY's. The 12 incher still works but not that good

Well, more and more movies are coming out in 3D, so as soon as these morons in the marketing departments get off the stupid 'exclusive release' bundle BS, we can get on with enjoying more 3D content.

I'd expect Avatar, How To Train Your Dragon, the Toy Story and Shrek series for general release some time this year (although I can't say exactly when).

There's also quite a few more 3D movies coming to theaters this year and numerous others being shot in 3D, so these will eventually get to BD 3D as well.


Max
post #3173 of 6573
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

cool. hope all goes well. I'd beat the crap out of the bad one while there's still time. change the settings, try and crash it. Let us know what white glove service really is. I can read but I'm curiouse as to how it differs from no glove. Maybe they'll wear white gloves? I'm sure they'd get dirty real quick but who knows?

New one arrived and...... cracked. Whole screen cracked. This time it was dropped on the left side. So who wants to tell me how great DB Schenker is, anyone? This is sickening!!!
post #3174 of 6573
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

Next year I could be lying down staring up..No regrets.

I just got mine a few weeks ago. I didn't wait either.
post #3175 of 6573
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

New one arrived and...... cracked. Whole screen cracked. This time it was dropped on the left side. So who wants to tell me how great DB Schenker is, anyone? This is sickening!!!

Cant' be.....no arguments from me dude. I feel for ya. Take a few deep breaths..
post #3176 of 6573
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Originally Posted by broodwich View Post

I just got mine a few weeks ago. I didn't wait either.

How much can ya lose?? .. the time your enjoying the thing outweighs the waiting factor. Different philosphies, a year from now your not gonna say crap wished I waited, your gonna say I like my TV don't need the new one..
If you don't spend over your head moneys worthless unless you spend it.
Everones different, hence 70 different TV's at Bestbuy.
post #3177 of 6573
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Originally Posted by djbluemax1 View Post

Well, more and more movies are coming out in 3D, so as soon as these morons in the marketing departments get off the stupid 'exclusive release' bundle BS, we can get on with enjoying more 3D content.

I'd expect Avatar, How To Train Your Dragon, the Toy Story and Shrek series for general release some time this year (although I can't say exactly when).

There's also quite a few more 3D movies coming to theaters this year and numerous others being shot in 3D, so these will eventually get to BD 3D as well.


Max

O.k. Max, that's still not enough. the way it was advertised to me was sort of like this is the future. all DVD's comming out in the future will be in 3D. I wasn't thinking theatres I was thinking DVD's. The cable providers and TV networks have not much motivation so it seems. Not broadcasting the superbowl in 3d was just plain stupid. Toy Story? not as bad ad michael jackson but I couldn't watch that. train my dragon? come on.. I want blood and guts, sports, everything in 3d.
post #3178 of 6573
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

New one arrived and...... cracked. Whole screen cracked. This time it was dropped on the left side. So who wants to tell me how great DB Schenker is, anyone? This is sickening!!!

This is probably the reason why Sony put Gorilla Glass on the newer models.
post #3179 of 6573
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Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post


This is probably the reason why Sony put Gorilla Glass on the newer models.

Must be costing them a bundle in damaged product.

Honestly the packaging needs to be more solid. They could take some lessons from Sharp. The 60" Quattron I got from them was packed like a tank. Nothing was going to bust it. Also the base was mounted. This makes a difference. Sony wants to save room not mounting the base, big mistake.
post #3180 of 6573
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

Must be costing them a bundle in damaged product.

Honestly the packaging needs to be more solid. They could take some lessons from Sharp. The 60" Quattron I got from them was packed like a tank. Nothing was going to bust it. Also the base was mounted. This makes a difference. Sony wants to save room not mounting the base, big mistake.

Nah Gorilla glass wouldn't prevent this..No excuse for that..But chdwil..so far ya got 2 tv's..one or 2 more damages and you'll be costing them money so you can consider that like your making money w/some creative convoluted thinking. Sort of like, if you go through a stop sign and no one sees it, then you just made 60 bucks or whatever the price of the ticket might be.
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