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post #271 of 508
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Originally Posted by AlVacado View Post

Thanks for the response. It's JVC that wants you to push till you hear a click. Made sure of that. The cable is new, and pretty good..Acoustic Research. Haven't tried the RC cords, but when I disconnect the optical, it has no effect. The TV, DirecTV receiver nor the Pany blu-ray need to be on for the buzz to be on.

Well in that case it could be caused by one of those units. May not be much you can do to stop it however. Sometimes changing outlets can help but it's probably interference from the power supplies on one of those units.
post #272 of 508
Which has the best sound and is a better buy for the money?

Vizio 510.......$298

Sony HT-CT150 ..... $266

Boston Acoustics TVee Model 20 Soundbar with Wireless Subwoofer - Black
$200


Just hooking up a Blu-ray Player and Panasonic Plasma TV
post #273 of 508
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Originally Posted by JimboLNT5265 View Post

Which has the best sound and is a better buy for the money?

Vizio 510.......$298

Sony HT-CT150 ..... $266

Boston Acoustics TVee Model 20 Soundbar with Wireless Subwoofer - Black
$200


Just hooking up a Blu-ray Player and Panasonic Plasma TV

The best sound,,, the Vizio 510 would be the clear winner.

Cheers
Davyo
post #274 of 508
Does the Vizio have a surround like sound? even though it isn't a HTIB ?


Connections on the back of the Vizio?, right now I have an HDMI from the Comcast HD DVR box to the TV.

What's the best way to hook up the Panasonic BD80 Blu ray and the Vizio 510?

That's all i will be hooking up to it, No gaming.

Also have they fixed the light problem with the Vizio yet ? or is that a problem not to be concerned with?
post #275 of 508
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Originally Posted by JimboLNT5265 View Post

Does the Vizio have a surround like sound? even though it isn't a HTIB ?


Connections on the back of the Vizio?, right now I have an HDMI from the Comcast HD DVR box to the TV.

What's the best way to hook up the Panasonic BD80 Blu ray and the Vizio 510?

That's all i will be hooking up to it, No gaming.

Also have they fixed the light problem with the Vizio yet ? or is that a problem not to be concerned with?

I think they have fixed the problem with the LED's.

Yes, the Vizio 510 is a surround system and has a great surround sound.

I have the same set-up as you,,, I run the optical out of my Panny BD60 BD player to the optical in on the bar,,,, and use the RCA's out from my panel to the bar (HD Cox DVR box hooked to my panel via HDMI).

Cheers
Davyo
post #276 of 508
Thanks Davyo, Have you ever seen it for less then $298?, not sure to pull the trigger now or wait some.

Also read this on http://starredreviews.com/vizio-vht5...d-system/4275/

VIZIO VHT510 has only one optical input, and so, if you have two sources of sound, say, for example an HDTV TV and a Blu Ray Disc player, you can not keep them both connected simultaneously. You will have to unplug one and connect the other if you want to switch the sound source.

Should I have concerns about this? will I really have to unplug one and connect another or does that just means if you have 2 different kinds of sound systems. I'm a little confused on the above review statement.
post #277 of 508
If your TV has analog (RCA L/R) outputs, you can connect the TV direct to the Vizio soundbar. If you have digital only from your TV, you can purcase a digital switching device like this one from Cables To Go/Amazon -> http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-2873...6585238&sr=8-3.

Finally, you could plug everything to the TV and then the TV direct to the soundbar. You would lose possibly some of the surround effects from Blu-Ras going this way.

Probably best all around solution would be the digital switcher with digital in from both Blu-Ray and Comcast cable box. Some (not many) television broadcasts end up with really good sound.
post #278 of 508
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Originally Posted by drfreeman60 View Post

If your TV has analog (RCA L/R) outputs, you can connect the TV direct to the Vizio soundbar. If you have digital only from your TV, you can purcase a digital switching device like this one from Cables To Go/Amazon -> http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-2873...6585238&sr=8-3.

Finally, you could plug everything to the TV and then the TV direct to the soundbar. You would lose possibly some of the surround effects from Blu-Ras going this way.

Probably best all around solution would be the digital switcher with digital in from both Blu-Ray and Comcast cable box. Some (not many) television broadcasts end up with really good sound.

I think monoprice has that same thing for almost half the price.
post #279 of 508
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Actually, after spending some time with the YSP-2200 I now consider it to be the best bar out there right now,, with the JVC BA1 very close behind.

I just sold my YSP-2200 as I did not think it was a big enough upgrade from my JVC,,,, it really was a close call though.

My opinion,,,,, if your looking to buy a bar, get the YSP-2200,,,, if you already have the JVC BA1 be happy, no need for an upgrade.

Cheers
Davyo


EDIT************ Nevermind. I just started reading the 2200 thread where my questions are being discussed*************



Davyo & others,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts/experiences on this thread. I just got done reading the whole thing... I'm better informed for it.

So.... now you like the YSP-2200.

Granted, that is the newest bar with the newest tech from Yamaha.

Have you (or anybody) compared it with the YSP-5100?

I listened the the 5100 at a friends and was impressed. But I have limited experience in hearing other soundbars for comparison.

And the 5100 keeps slowly coming down in price.

All those additional drivers and even just the weight and size of the 5100 make me think that it would produce a deeper and fuller sound.

Even with the price as it is... coming down... I would not normally spend that much. But I really want the richest and deepest sound I can get without tearing up the walls.

...And I'm sorta thinking of just sitting tight until the 520 arrives. I dunno.

Any input is appreciated.


v/r
post #280 of 508
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Originally Posted by mrvilla View Post

EDIT************ Nevermind. I just started reading the 2200 thread where my questions are being discussed*************



Davyo & others,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts/experiences on this thread. I just got done reading the whole thing... I'm better informed for it.

So.... now you like the YSP-2200.

Granted, that is the newest bar with the newest tech from Yamaha.

Have you (or anybody) compared it with the YSP-5100?

I listened the the 5100 at a friends and was impressed. But I have limited experience in hearing other soundbars for comparison.

And the 5100 keeps slowly coming down in price.

All those additional drivers and even just the weight and size of the 5100 make me think that it would produce a deeper and fuller sound.

Even with the price as it is... coming down... I would not normally spend that much. But I really want the richest and deepest sound I can get without tearing up the walls.

...And I'm sorta thinking of just sitting tight until the 520 arrives. I dunno.

Any input is appreciated.


v/r

Yes, the YSP-2200 is my favorite stand alone soundbar, followed very close in 2nd place by the JVC BA1.

For a soundbar type system the Vizio VHT510 is my favorite, if your able to do rear speakers then the Vizio is my pick over the YSP and the JVC.

And yes, I will be checking out the VHT520 when that comes out, also on my list is the new Panasonic HTB520 soundbar that comes out in April.

Cheers
Davyo
post #281 of 508
Reading some of the threads, it appears that optical out from DVR box and Blu Ray to a switch, and then to optical in on the VHT510 is optimal for audio. I have an optical out on the tv...can I just do that with hdmi's going in to tv from DVR box and blu ray, or do I still need to run separate opticals to a switch anyway for optimization?
post #282 of 508
I hated to start a new thread (especially with my first board post) because I know how that can clutter up a forum. I decided to finally upgrade my TV audio and so I've been doing nothing but reading here for the past couple of days. I'd like to say thanks to all you guys/gals for relating your experiences and offering advice and tech support.

I have a 5 year old Panasonic 42PX600U with a Verizon FiOS box, Wii and a DVD player connected. I started thinking of the Vizio 510 because it was highly rated in Consumer Reports, but I've now decided against rear speakers. Next in Consumers was the Vizio 210, but then reading here made me consider the Sony CT150 and 350. Then came the JVC BA1. I even started considering the Panasonic HTB500 because I saw it in Costco today for $250 and thought I could have it set up in time for the game. (I've since reconsidered that choice.) It seems because of the age of my TV and its lack of an ARC my connection will be easy - just leave everything connected to the TV and use an optical cable to connect the TV to the SB. Or do I have alternatives?

I know a lot of this is a matter of taste and I'd probably be happy no matter which of these I choose. I just wish there was a clear winner. I'll be sure and post to let you know where I wind up. Of course, suggestions are appreciated.
post #283 of 508
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Originally Posted by r17409 View Post
I hated to start a new thread (especially with my first board post) because I know how that can clutter up a forum. I decided to finally upgrade my TV audio and so I've been doing nothing but reading here for the past couple of days. I'd like to say thanks to all you guys/gals for relating your experiences and offering advice and tech support.

I have a 5 year old Panasonic 42PX600U with a Verizon FiOS box, Wii and a DVD player connected. I started thinking of the Vizio 510 because it was highly rated in Consumer Reports, but I've now decided against rear speakers. Next in Consumers was the Vizio 210, but then reading here made me consider the Sony CT150 and 350. Then came the JVC BA1. I even started considering the Panasonic HTB500 because I saw it in Costco today for $250 and thought I could have it set up in time for the game. (I've since reconsidered that choice.) It seems because of the age of my TV and its lack of an ARC my connection will be easy - just leave everything connected to the TV and use an optical cable to connect the TV to the SB. Or do I have alternatives?

I know a lot of this is a matter of taste and I'd probably be happy no matter which of these I choose. I just wish there was a clear winner. I'll be sure and post to let you know where I wind up. Of course, suggestions are appreciated.
I believe once you get home with any of your choices, you will probably be happy. (I had a 600u also until fall of 2009 when I gave it to my son. Good box.)

I have a very limited experience with the Panasonic, but my initial impression was that it left something to be desired sonically.

I have a lot of experience with the other units. My personal preference is the JVC which is a true 4.1 system. The others use a synthisized surround, but are still good. The JVC has a little more detail than I hear in the others. However, this only applies when connected to a particular component via digital (optical) and the device set to bitstream. In your case, I would connect the Fios and DVD player directly to the soundbar via optical. Next the Wii would go to the TV to be connected to the JVC via analog (RCA). This would give you the best picture and best sound, but may not be family friendly unless you invest in a really good remote like the Logitech Harmony to handle the dual switching of TV for video and soundbar for audio.

Next favorite would be either of the current Sony's. In the case of the Sony you would connect everything to the soundbar then the soundbar to television via HDMI. If you watch any OTA, you would want the TV connected to the soundbar via optical. The Sony has almost as much detail as the JVC and has a wider, deeper soundfield. More of an enveloping feel to it. I think most people prefer this type of sound.

Finally, the Vizio 210 is an excellent bar. Good sound. Slightly behind the other two. Due to only one optical input, this one is a little bit limited. However, if you want to leave everything connected to the TV and just run the one optical or analog cable to the Vizio, you will still have really good sound. The TV will only pass 2-ch for sources connected to it, but the Vizio has pretty good surround effects. Very full and dynamic.
post #284 of 508
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Originally Posted by r17409 View Post
I hated to start a new thread (especially with my first board post) because I know how that can clutter up a forum. I decided to finally upgrade my TV audio and so I've been doing nothing but reading here for the past couple of days. I'd like to say thanks to all you guys/gals for relating your experiences and offering advice and tech support.

I have a 5 year old Panasonic 42PX600U with a Verizon FiOS box, Wii and a DVD player connected. I started thinking of the Vizio 510 because it was highly rated in Consumer Reports, but I've now decided against rear speakers. Next in Consumers was the Vizio 210, but then reading here made me consider the Sony CT150 and 350. Then came the JVC BA1. I even started considering the Panasonic HTB500 because I saw it in Costco today for $250 and thought I could have it set up in time for the game. (I've since reconsidered that choice.) It seems because of the age of my TV and its lack of an ARC my connection will be easy - just leave everything connected to the TV and use an optical cable to connect the TV to the SB. Or do I have alternatives?

I know a lot of this is a matter of taste and I'd probably be happy no matter which of these I choose. I just wish there was a clear winner. I'll be sure and post to let you know where I wind up. Of course, suggestions are appreciated.
One thing to keep in mind, dont pay to much attention to Consumer Reports or CNET when it comes to opinions or reviews,, this forum and Amazon reviews can be much better choices when getting opinions and knowlege about A/V products.

Some random thoughts for you or bars you mentioned (these are all bar I have had at my house and spent time with):

I tried the Panasonic soundbar, it sounded good but offered nothing in the way of any surround sound (Panasonic has a new'er version coming in April).

Vizio VHT210, prety darn good, and I think Vizio has fixed the problems with the LED's, but then again Vizio would never admit any problems with the LED's so that make's it hard for them to say they fixed it when they would not admit the problem in the first place.

The Sony CT-150 and 350, very good sounding bars, good surround effect, but the menus are not very user friendly and no wireless sub.

JVC BA1, best of the bunch. great sound, great surround, wirless sub, easy and user friendly.

Vizio VHT510, better than the JVC for a surround sound, but then again its got the rear speakers.

In the end, let the features you need decide which bar to go for.

Cheers
Davyo
post #285 of 508
Thanks for the setup advice and opinions. As is usually the case with me, once I get it in my head to buy something I scour the internet for info and advice. I think this pmb was a great find. Now I'm itching to get something hooked up.
post #286 of 508
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I think this pmb was a great find.

What's a "pmb" ?

Cheers
Davyo
post #287 of 508
I have had the new VHT510 for one month now. So far, so good. I guess they did fix the LED issue or I just got lucky this time. I hope talking about it doesn't "jinks" it.

This time I have connected my TiVO and DVD player to the VHT510 optical input by using a optical switcher I got from monoprice. I am getting surround sound which is great. I am quite happy with it this time.
post #288 of 508
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

What's a "pmb" ?

Cheers
Davyo

Private Message Board......... I believe is what he is talking about.
post #289 of 508
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Originally Posted by rxcats View Post

I have had the new VHT510 for one month now. So far, so good. I guess they did fix the LED issue or I just got lucky this time. I hope talking about it doesn't "jinks" it.

This time I have connected my TiVO and DVD player to the VHT510 optical input by using a optical switcher I got from monoprice. I am getting surround sound which is great. I am quite happy with it this time.

Which switcher did you buy? doesn't the tv act as the switcher by itself, hooking the Tivo up with HDMI to the Tv for both Video and Audio and hooking the DVD with HDMI to the TV for Video and using the Optical from the DVD to the Bar for Audio?
post #290 of 508
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Originally Posted by JimboLNT5265 View Post

Which switcher did you buy? doesn't the tv act as the switcher by itself, hooking the Tivo up with HDMI to the Tv for both Video and Audio and hooking the DVD with HDMI to the TV for Video and using the Optical from the DVD to the Bar for Audio?

No, it doesn't give surround sound that way. I tried hooking up the TiVO and DVD to the HDTV via HDMI then connecting the HDTV's optical-out to the VHT510 for the sound. It seems like it would work, but it does not pass surround sound that way, only stereo. It will pass surround sound if I use the HDTV tuner (hooked up OTA with antenna), but it will not pass surround sound through any device hooked up to the HDTV via HDMI. Apparently this is some type of agreement having to do with copyright. If you want surround sound from any component such as blue-ray, cable set-top box, DVR (e.g. TiVO) you must connect the audio to the VHT510 directly with an optical cable. The bummer is that the VHT510 only has one optical in; that is the reason for getting an optical switcher. Who wants to keep plugging and unplugging optical cable every time you switch components? The video from all of the components is connected to the HDTV via HDMI.
post #291 of 508
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

What's a "pmb" ?

Cheers
Davyo

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Originally Posted by JimboLNT5265 View Post

Private Message Board......... I believe is what he is talking about.

Public Message Board.
post #292 of 508
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Originally Posted by r17409 View Post
I hated to start a new thread (especially with my first board post) because I know how that can clutter up a forum. I decided to finally upgrade my TV audio and so I've been doing nothing but reading here for the past couple of days. I'd like to say thanks to all you guys/gals for relating your experiences and offering advice and tech support.

I have a 5 year old Panasonic 42PX600U with a Verizon FiOS box, Wii and a DVD player connected. I started thinking of the Vizio 510 because it was highly rated in Consumer Reports, but I've now decided against rear speakers. Next in Consumers was the Vizio 210, but then reading here made me consider the Sony CT150 and 350. Then came the JVC BA1. I even started considering the Panasonic HTB500 because I saw it in Costco today for $250 and thought I could have it set up in time for the game. (I've since reconsidered that choice.) It seems because of the age of my TV and its lack of an ARC my connection will be easy - just leave everything connected to the TV and use an optical cable to connect the TV to the SB. Or do I have alternatives?

I know a lot of this is a matter of taste and I'd probably be happy no matter which of these I choose. I just wish there was a clear winner. I'll be sure and post to let you know where I wind up. Of course, suggestions are appreciated.

dreefreeman has already answered this question, but I thought I would point out that my lcd panel doesn't have ARC either,and possumgirl was kind enough to clarify (on a CT350 thread) that even without ARC, I can still hook comcast hd box and blue ray to the 350 via HDMI and then hook up the soundbar to the tv via HDMI

I believe the problem of stereo sound remains (due to copyright issues or some such) but I think drfreeman had also mentioned, on a prior question of mine, that the soundbars do a very good job of emulating surround sound so for most viewers they would not realize that they're just getting stereo sound but if you truly want the best sound then digital optical is the way to go...at least that is what I remember of drfreeman's reply.
post #293 of 508
Here is drfreeman's explanation about stero vs. multi channel sound that I was talking about.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19702837
post #294 of 508
Thought that readers on this forum might appreciate the chat exchange I had with Vizio support on the subject problem.

" Kali: Thank you for contacting VIZIO Live Chat in South Dakota, my name is Kali. What can I assist you with?
William Schmitt: VHT-510 Sound bar - Have you corrected the widely reported reliability problem with the volume adjusting blue LED lights? If yes, how can I be assured that I am purchasing a updated unit? Is there serial number information that will discriminate an updated unit from an older defected one? Your answer will determine my buying decision
Thank you.
Kali: Here at VIZIO we pride ourselves in providing best in class customer support and all of our support is U.S. based, and I can assist you with that.
Kali: That is not a known issue to Vizio. If for any reason the lights do go out, it would be covered under warranty.
William Schmitt: I have found at least 25 reports on the internet of this problem. I cannot believe you are unaware.
Kali: We have several cases of it, but we don't consider it a known issue.
Kali: Is there anything else I could help you with today?
William Schmitt: Hardly a responsible answer from a reputable company. My consumer dollars will be spent elsewhere. I recommend you forward this chat to your Vice Presidents of Marketing and Quality Control (if you even have one). I will be posting it on several internet chat boards that cover Vizio products.
Kali: Let me put it this way. There are still cases of polio, small pox, even the plague that still exist even after finding cures for them. This issue is not considered a known issue as it doesn't happen to every sound bar we manufacture. Does it happen to some, yes. In the world of electronics, it is impossible to tell when something will go out, even if it is an LED light.
Kali: Is there anything else I could help you with today?
William Schmitt: No. You have again reinforced my buying decision."

Caveat Emptor!!!
post #295 of 508
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Originally Posted by lonebullnuke View Post

Thought that readers on this forum might appreciate the chat exchange I had with Vizio support on the subject problem.

" Kali: Thank you for contacting VIZIO Live Chat in South Dakota, my name is Kali. What can I assist you with?
William Schmitt: VHT-510 Sound bar - Have you corrected the widely reported reliability problem with the volume adjusting blue LED lights? If yes, how can I be assured that I am purchasing a updated unit? Is there serial number information that will discriminate an updated unit from an older defected one? Your answer will determine my buying decision
Thank you.
Kali: Here at VIZIO we pride ourselves in providing best in class customer support and all of our support is U.S. based, and I can assist you with that.
Kali: That is not a known issue to Vizio. If for any reason the lights do go out, it would be covered under warranty.
William Schmitt: I have found at least 25 reports on the internet of this problem. I cannot believe you are unaware.
Kali: We have several cases of it, but we don't consider it a known issue.
Kali: Is there anything else I could help you with today?
William Schmitt: Hardly a responsible answer from a reputable company. My consumer dollars will be spent elsewhere. I recommend you forward this chat to your Vice Presidents of Marketing and Quality Control (if you even have one). I will be posting it on several internet chat boards that cover Vizio products.
Kali: Let me put it this way. There are still cases of polio, small pox, even the plague that still exist even after finding cures for them. This issue is not considered a known issue as it doesn't happen to every sound bar we manufacture. Does it happen to some, yes. In the world of electronics, it is impossible to tell when something will go out, even if it is an LED light.
Kali: Is there anything else I could help you with today?
William Schmitt: No. You have again reinforced my buying decision."

Caveat Emptor!!!

Yea,,, thats the same BS Vizio gave me when I called them and when I did the support chat with them,,,,, they will not admit to widespread problems with the LED's.

Yes, it appears the LED issue have been resolved, but thats going by less reports of failure posted online here and in reviews.

But it is very insulting of Vizio to handle it the way they did,,,,, here's the bottom line.

EVERY SINGLE selling outlet for Vizio that has reviews allowed were slammed with reports of the LED's going out.

Amazon, Target, SamsClub, Costco and WalMart are the biggest sellers of the Vizio soundbars and ALL of Vizio's seller's had widespread reports of LED's going out,,,, how the hell does Vizio claim there are not problems when everyone of the Vizio sellers websites are are showing the MAJORITY of, if not ALL the people that purchased them having the LED's fail !!!!

Even at the return desk's at SamsClub and Costco the managers and employees told me they had been getting a large number of the bars returned because of the LED's !!!!!!!!!!

REALLY Vizio,,,, you were not aware of this,,,, what a joke !!!!

It is/was a total insult to us consumers for Vizio to try and hide or ignor or denie the problem instead of owning the problem.

I know for a fact that some Vizio reps read this forum and all I would say to them is shame on you.
Perhaps you all at Vizio have not heard about this little thing called the internet,,, the internet is where people share information about everything in life,, including Vizio products !!!!!
Sorry Vizio but the only thing you suceeded in doing was instilling dis-trust in your customers.
If you all at Vizio would have simply said,,, "Yes, we realize there is a problem with the LED's and we are working to correct it",, that would have been great,,,, why you all at Vizio decided to lie about it and not admit to a problem is a mystery to me, and Im sure many others.

Yes, I think the LED problem has been resolved, but that again is just a guess since Vizio never admitted a problem in the first place they cant say they have fixed a problem they denied even exsisted.

See Vizio,,, lying can back fire on you,,,,, you lost trust with your customers and your customers are un-sure if its safe to buy now.

For the record,,, my current Vizio VHT510 is working flawlessly and the LED's are working fine,,, but it took about 5 or 6 units and about 3 months of buying and returning them to get one that the LED's did not fail on,,,, I guess there is a build date to look for to know when they have been fixed but then again, Vizio wont tell us a build date cuz there was never a problem.

Ok,, I will get off my soapbox now and stop my rant,,,, if anyone cant tell, Im still pissed at Vizio.

Cheers
Davyo
post #296 of 508
I have both Vizio VSB210 and YSP1100. YSP1100 is much better but need a subwf. For Vizio VSB210, you don't need a subwf since it comes with the soundbar. The sound is more transparency and bigger with more options like diff. listening modes from YSP1100. Here's a catch with YSP1100: It would sound much better with a smaller room with walls. I was doing this test in my bedroom about the size of 16x16x8 and it sounds fantastic and much better than my Vizio VSB210. When I brought the YSP1100 to my living room with the size of 16x32x8 with some openings, it doesn't sound as good or grand. Basically, the sound output is much smaller comparing to my Klipsch Towers KLF30, Klipsch 4 satellite surround speakers, and KLF30 Subwf in my living room. It's still an amazing one-piece soundbar which can simulate surround sound up to 7 pieces.
Sum up for YSP1100: Excellent for a bedroom or smaller to average room with walls for those who don't want run wires/cables around the house and take up too much spaces of extra speakers to get the surround sound for HT.
For surround sound, it's like night and day comparing these 2 - no contest.
post #297 of 508
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Originally Posted by danielt888 View Post

I have both Vizio VSB210 and YSP1100. YSP1100 is much better but need a subwf. For Vizio VSB210, you don't need a subwf since it comes with the soundbar. The sound is more transparency and bigger with more options like diff. listening modes. Here's a catch: It would sound much better with a smaller room with walls. I was doing this test in my bedroom about the size of 16x16x8 and it sounds fantastic and much better than my Vizio VSB210. When I brought the YSP1100 to my living room with the size of 16x32x8 with some openings, it doesn't sound as good or grand. Basically, the sound output is much smaller comparing to my Klipsch Towers KLF30, Klipsch 4 satellite surround speakers, and KLF30 Subwf in my living room. It's still an amazing one-piece soundbar which can simulate surround sound up to 7 pieces.
Sum up: Excellent for a bedroom or smaller to average room with walls for those who don't want run wires/cables around the house and take up too much spaces of extra speakers to get the surround sound for HT.
For surround sound, it's like night and day comparing these 2 - no contest.

Am I the only one here that is lost ?

I cant make heads or tails of your post,,, you mention two different soundbars, the YSP and the Vizio, but the wording of your posting makes it very hard to understand which soundbar your commenting on.

Mentioning two differernt soundbars and then using the word "it" to refur to them makes it a bit confussing.

Cheers
Davyo
post #298 of 508
Well I thought I was one of the lucky one's with no LED issue, but I was wrong. Bought my unit in Oct 2010 and as of last week the lights went out!!

Contacted Vizio support and after suggesting the unplugging they told me they would swap out my unit. The one thing that upsets me is that because I bought the unit over 90 days I have to pay to ship my defective unit back to them.

Here is a highlight from my conversation with them.

Factorz: So why not avoid a upset customer and pick up the shipping on this unit as well. Listen I understand electronics can be touchy, but when a quick search on Google turns up others with this issue it makes you wonder. Clearly the unit has LED issues and Vizio should stand by the product and pick up the shipping. Is Vizio willing to do that for me?

Gil: To be honest you can find just about anything doing a quicksearch in google or bing. In this case no, we are not going to pick up the shipping. But if the problem does occur again, we will cover it.

Factorz: So am I the first person to contact support about a LED going out on this unit?

Gil: No you are not.

Factorz: Ok then it's clearly a issue with this unit which is the point I was trying to make with the google search. If it was a isolated incident I would not have a issue paying for shipping, but why is Vizio not standing behind their product?

Gil: Well again though, the thing is when a company sells several million units, and only a few hundred if that have problems, its not an overall prevalent issue. Now of course we don't ever want it to happen, and we do want to stand behind our product which is why we provide a warranty with our products. But in this situation, part of that warranty includes that outside of the 90 days from the date of purchase, you need to cover the shipping to return it to us.

Even MS paid to have my 360 sent back to them when the ring red of death happened. This was my first Vizio product and will now be my last.
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Seems like Vizio has morphed into the Soup Nazi of soundbars. Yet you guys keep coming back for more. "No soundbar for you!"
post #300 of 508
My local costco doesnt seem to carry the vht 510 anymore. My guess is they sent them all back to vizio due to the led issue.
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