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post #421 of 1022
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14 hours and counting!

Im hoping for a positive review smile.gif
post #422 of 1022
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They're will be plenty going to see this in theatre. The buzz is big for this film, I've seen plenty of posters advertised where I am. I reckon it will rake in heaps at the theatres worldwide.
Oh no doubt for sure, I was just implying that now that some of the reviews are trickling in not being as well received as the Avengers as right now 67% RT that sadly it won't break Avatar or now even the Avengers like I was hoping it would. On home video though I think it will equal or surpass The Avengers


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(...by the way Man Of Steel is the kind of movie I will see in theaters no matter what)
I know, I think I will go on that date for the midnight showing on thur night after all... at that fancy smancy Cinepolis. Might was well do it deluxe all the way. Btw I saw the 77 Superman 3x consecutive in one day when it came out on theater. That's pretty crazy and haven't done that for any film since then, not even back to back.
Edited by zoey67 - 6/13/13 at 5:04am
post #423 of 1022
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You know the quality will be no doubt beyond reference
How does something go "beyond reference"?
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I saw the 77 Superman 3x consecutive in one day
That film came out in 1979, not 1977.
post #424 of 1022
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Oh no doubt for sure, I was just implying that now that some of the reviews are trickling in not being as well received as the Avengers as right now 67% RT that sadly it won't break Avatar or now even the Avengers like I was hoping it would. On home video though I think it will equal or surpass The Avengers
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I dont see it comming anywhere close to The Avengers in the theater or blu ray sales. The Avengers had a huge lead up to the movie with all the previous stand alone movies plus it got fantastic reviews. The last 3 superman movies have been duds so that will keep some people away. Dont get me wrong they are still gonna get my $10 this weekend for sure though
post #425 of 1022
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I know, I think I will go on that date for the midnight showing on thur night after all... at that fancy smancy Cinepolis. Might was well do it deluxe all the way.
That's our girl!
We're proud of ya, Zoey.smile.gif
post #426 of 1022
I'm likely seeing this tomorrow and just wanted to ask which would be the better experience:
IMAX 3D
2D Dolby Atmos 11.1
post #427 of 1022
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I'm likely seeing this tomorrow and just wanted to ask which would be the better experience:
IMAX 3D
2D Dolby Atmos 11.1
You just HAD to ask that question, didn't you?tongue.gif
post #428 of 1022
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You just HAD to ask that question, didn't you?tongue.gif
Well, it's a $17 ticket either way but if I'm going to spring for the movie I want to do it right. biggrin.gif
post #429 of 1022
Real men watch movies in good ol' fashioned 2-D with as many freakin' loudspeakers as they can cram into a room. ViewMasters, even giant ones, are for kids & wussies.
post #430 of 1022
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

I'm likely seeing this tomorrow and just wanted to ask which would be the better experience:
IMAX 3D
2D Dolby Atmos 11.1
IMAX will likely have a bigger image, but is limited to 5 speakers (only 2 surrounds for the entire theatre).

Atmos doesn't have channels (each speaker gets a unique signal). Hopefully the sound mixers got creative and made good use of the overhead speakers (considering the title character flies).

Also, I don't think you'll lose much (if anything) by seeing it in 2D. A few reviews complain about the 3D in this movie (the post conversion is fine, but the fact that so many shots are hand-held makes it harder to watch in 3D).

So, for all the factors above, I would see it in Atmos.
post #431 of 1022
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Real men watch movies in good ol' fashioned 2-D with as many freakin' loudspeakers as they can cram into a room. ViewMasters, even giant ones, are for kids & wussies.

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IMAX will likely have a bigger image, but is limited to 5 speakers (only 2 surrounds for the entire theatre).

Atmos doesn't have channels (each speaker gets a unique signal). Hopefully the sound mixers got creative and made good use of the overhead speakers (considering the title character flies).

Also, I don't think you'll lose much (if anything) by seeing it in 2D. A few reviews complain about the 3D in this movie (the post conversion is fine, but the fact that so many shots are hand-held makes it harder to watch in 3D).

So, for all the factors above, I would see it in Atmos.
Well size matters weather it be in screen size or sound size and since I know what the IMAX 3D experience is like and what a proper 2D imax film experience is like I think I will head over to folsom for the first time atmos experience.
post #432 of 1022
57% RT score.
Me thinks critics have it out for Warner bros films this summer. Little pricks.
post #433 of 1022
Thread Starter 
I bought my ticket already so I'm going to see it either way.
post #434 of 1022
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How does something go "beyond reference"?
That film came out in 1979, not 1977.
It means that it's going to be out of this world, crazy good, off the charts...figuratively speaking ok grandpa?
post #435 of 1022
SPOILER FREE review ahead:

This is an excellent film that is littered with technical flaws. I felt the story was told very well considering everyone knows who Superman is. There's plenty of character conflict on what makes him become the man he is and that's all I needed. The action delivers exactly what a Superman movie should. I loved the entire cast and thought they ALL delivered the goods.

From a technical standpoint, things could have been better. Snyder's use of shaky cam was beyond stupid. I proved to a friend outside the theatre after the movie that contrary to what directors think, a person running with or shaking a camera this much to simulate a sense of being in the action is in no way reflective of how humans actually view those moments. All it does is remind you that you're watching a movie shot by an idiot.

The cinematography is unusually gloomy for a film with a character who derives his power from our yellow sun. Personally, it looked like they were going for the "dark" look just for the sake of it. Didn't fit the film for me.

The sound mix was bass heavy. I love bass, but there were moments where it drowned out other aspects of the mix. Maybe it was where I was sitting (first row in IMAX), but it wasn't the best.

However, technical flaws aside, I really loved the film. I loved how it was told and the balance of action and story. I do think some people had story expectations that weren't met. For me, this was fantastic. I got all of the character development I needed, because really, how much more do we need from this character as he grows from child to man? The next film can deal with further character development - this movie delivered everything I wanted in spades.

I will definitely be seeing it at least one more time in the theatre... Most likely more than that. biggrin.gif
Edited by Dbuudo07 - 6/14/13 at 9:42am
post #436 of 1022
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Real men watch movies in good ol' fashioned 2-D with as many freakin' loudspeakers as they can cram into a room. ViewMasters, even giant ones, are for kids & wussies.
I'll watch it in 3D and challenge you to a duel at noon if you have the guts... wink.gif
post #437 of 1022
Well here's my review and I'm not going to waste any time with any dumb storyline or any spoilers because it's pointless but rather give you what I like to know which is the over all feel, view and and if it's any good or entertaining at all. And in no way is this meant to keep anyone from seeing it now but just keep your expectations in check, all the lukewarm feedback are all very justified and rightly so. What I saw felt like this was just 1/3 of big franchise movie and not one single movie and end to all. More like an introduction, a prelude of what's to come because the world of Superman is so vast, nobody can do it in one shot. Honestly, I felt like I walked away from a 2 hr "Be all you can be" Army commercial.

Just got back from the fancy smancy Cinepolis 12:45am show and this time the critics were kinda right sorry to say which is not to say you won't love it, it's just the movie jumps around and fractured and is so all over the map that everyone will come way with their own perspective. The current 67% at RT is fairly reasonable. I'll tell you this much is that most initial wave of the "Best superhero movie Ever" and praise is from the younger, gamer, nerd, geek demo graphic...they will eat this up like a circus circus buffet. So in fairness, you can say all the negative stuff about not having a story or character is true but its not really important to the fanboy because this is after all a "Superman" action movie I have to remind myself.

However, this is IMHO the best presentation of a comic book made into big screen ever made, the massive epic fights, Prometheus-like set design production value, gadgetry machines, special effects, F/X all done like no super hero movie. This is what a comic book movie should be look like. The cinematography, angles, close ups so grand, sweeping and sophisticated. Yet there was a lot ridiculous hand-held shaky cam during the earth scenes as if Snyder wanted to show us the separation between Superman's world and Clark's world, what the hell was that for I have no idea.

And you know what else, to me if felt like MOS was a collaboration direction from M Bay and R Scott. A lot of empty spectacular epic action mixed with sophisticated intelligent characters that never had a chance to show themselves. Because just when you're getting warmed up to anyone of them, the scenes will jump around, back and forth like you're watching a documentary instead of a linear movie. That's prob my biggest problem and gripe with MOS, there was actually a great story with strong characters that weren't given anything to do but step aside or down for the spectacle of MOS which includes Superman himself which the audience didn't really get to know much or attach to except for his actions and powers.

Overall, if I had to give a grade or mark it would have to be a B-. Mostly for the high quality craftsmanship of the action and production is A+ but D- for character development and script. To compare, I had more fun and was entertained more with my last 2 outing's Prometheus and Fast & Furious 6.
post #438 of 1022
This review for the Cinepolis experience which I feel deserves a separate review for people interested in seeing MOS in those fancy pants theater. Well we did it all, wine and dine the total damaged was like over $150... $ 68 that's just for me...19 for ticket and 49 for food. I meant to bring back some pics of the seats and food but the dang camera had zero power left. For sure next time.

1st let's start with the movie experience and this was the best part. It's really, really nice to be in a 21+ group of audience that understands manners so there's none of the cell phones or rude teen agers or having your chair kicked. And the best part for me was the seat itself. I can't tell you how good it feels to be able to kick your feet up and recline a bit, esp if you're in the 40+ age group like myself who has some back and tooshie issues. For me this alone I will comeback for the extra $10 simply I can't sit up straight for 2 hrs and not able to stretch my legs. The nice clean roomy seats were def nicer than the sticky dirty cloth seats. And there's ample space between you and the next patron so that you'll won't have to worry about your drinks or popcorn being in their arm rest. Each person has their own cup holders with slide out trays. And it's neat that there is 2 seats for each couple separated by a table section so just imagine each row there's only about 6 sections of 2 recliners and the next row in front of you is on a incline so that there's no one blocking your view.

The screen size wasn't anything special nor was it better than the Regal or Edwards cinema. Same with the audio, if anything it wasn't nearly as good or loud as Regal. But for me the seats was the highlight, it was worth the extra $$$ for that aspect. I guess they just assumed the more mature 21+ crowd wasn't concerned with PQ or audio.

Now for the bad. The 3 angus sliders were a joke, 1st of all the teeny beef patty was the size of flipping poker chip and was prob some frozen from Costco. The $10 choc brownie was the size of a credit card covered in a thick gloop of icing and marshmallows. The popcorn didn't seem very fresh or warm, it was like it had been sitting out all day long left over from their afternoon left overs. I'm not expecting the world here ok but for $50 with a $5 tip I would think the food should be somewhat better than the usual cineplex. Come to think about it, the food was more than going to Outback or Black Angus yet got food inferior to Jack in the box. Will I come back, yes but bringing my own snacks next time.
post #439 of 1022
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Well here's my review and I'm not going to waste any time with any dumb storyline or any spoilers because it's pointless but rather give you what I like to know which is the over all feel, view and and if it's any good or entertaining at all. And in no way is this meant to keep anyone from seeing it now but just keep your expectations in check, all the lukewarm feedback are all very justified and rightly so. What I saw felt like this was just 1/3 of big franchise movie and not one single movie and end to all. More like an introduction, a prelude of what's to come because the world of Superman is so vast, nobody can do it in one shot. Honestly, I felt like I walked away from a 2 hr "Be all you can be" Army commercial.

Just got back from the fancy smancy Cinepolis 12:45am show and this time the critics were kinda right sorry to say which is not to say you won't love it, it's just the movie jumps around and fractured and is so all over the map that everyone will come way with their own perspective. The current 67% at RT is fairly reasonable. I'll tell you this much is that most initial wave of the "Best superhero movie Ever" and praise is from the younger, gamer, nerd, geek demo graphic...they will eat this up like a circus circus buffet. So in fairness, you can say all the negative stuff about not having a story or character is true but its not really important to the fanboy because this is after all a "Superman" action movie I have to remind myself.

However, this is IMHO the best presentation of a comic book made into big screen ever made, the massive epic fights, Prometheus-like set design production value, gadgetry machines, special effects, F/X all done like no super hero movie. This is what a comic book movie should be look like. The cinematography, angles, close ups so grand, sweeping and sophisticated. Yet there was a lot ridiculous hand-held shaky cam during the earth scenes as if Snyder wanted to show us the separation between Superman's world and Clark's world, what the hell was that for I have no idea.

And you know what else, to me if felt like MOS was a collaboration direction from M Bay and R Scott. A lot of empty spectacular epic action mixed with sophisticated intelligent characters that never had a chance to show themselves. Because just when you're getting warmed up to anyone of them, the scenes will jump around, back and forth like you're watching a documentary instead of a linear movie. That's prob my biggest problem and gripe with MOS, there was actually a great story with strong characters that weren't given anything to do but step aside or down for the spectacle of MOS which includes Superman himself which the audience didn't really get to know much or attach to except for his actions and powers.

Overall, if I had to give a grade or mark it would have to be a B-. Mostly for the high quality craftsmanship of the action and production is A+ but D- for character development and script. To compare, I had more fun and was entertained more with my last 2 outing's Prometheus and Fast & Furious 6.

Thanks for the review zoey. Well what you said seems consistent with Zack Znyder's filmmaking in general. While I'll keep my expectations in check, I do expect to enjoy the movie nonetheless. Your Bay/Scott comparison is funny, because in a way, that's one can reasonably expect from a Znyder/Nolan collaboration as well. I'll keep the character development parts in mind, but again, I'm pretty sure I'll still enjoy the movie (and its music! wink.gif). I'll see it tomorrow or sunday...
post #440 of 1022
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Thanks for the review zoey. Well what you said seems consistent with Zack Znyder's filmmaking in general. While I'll keep my expectations in check, I do expect to enjoy the movie nonetheless. Your Bay/Scott comparison is funny, because in a way, that's one can reasonably expect from a Znyder/Nolan collaboration as well. I'll keep the character development parts in mind, but again, I'm pretty sure I'll still enjoy the movie (and its music! wink.gif). I'll see it tomorrow or sunday...
Although I have yet to see MOS I can agree with this excluding Sucker Punch which I thought actually ended up lending itself to a lot more intelligent discussion post viewing than any other films he's done. I'll see MOS today but from what I've read I'm going in expecting some of the best A/V candy a theater experience can offer and little more.
post #441 of 1022
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Thanks for the review zoey. Well what you said seems consistent with Zack Znyder's filmmaking in general. While I'll keep my expectations in check, I do expect to enjoy the movie nonetheless. Your Bay/Scott comparison is funny, because in a way, that's one can reasonably expect from a Znyder/Nolan collaboration as well. I'll keep the character development parts in mind, but again, I'm pretty sure I'll still enjoy the movie (and its music! wink.gif). I'll see it tomorrow or sunday...
Hey Morph you know I'm really having a good laugh to myself right now because come sunday after you see this movie your wink.gif will become this >frown.gifconfused.gif, I can't wait for your review amigo smile.gif
You're going to be in the same camp as me I know it...thrilled with anticipation then ehh when it's over
post #442 of 1022
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Although I have yet to see MOS I can agree with this excluding Sucker Punch which I thought actually ended up lending itself to a lot more intelligent discussion post viewing than any other films he's done. I'll see MOS today but from what I've read I'm going in expecting some of the best A/V candy a theater experience can offer and little more.

I often think there's more substance to his style than people might think smile.gif, but his name is often synonym of "great visuals with no depth" ...Sucker Punch is a film I loved, and I still regret we never got to see his original ending.
post #443 of 1022
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I often think there's more substance to his style than people might think smile.gif, but his name is often synonym of "great visuals with no depth" ...Sucker Punch is a film I loved, and I still regret we never got to see his original ending.
I believe it as well as some other sadly deleted scenes are on the disc. Funny thing is the previews made it look like some stoopid girl power CGI puke fest but it actually really had some great layers to the story and good discussion on who's perspective it was told from, if Sweet Pea really got out, etc. etc.

Anyways, I'm heading to MOS this afternoon and will post back my thoughts.
post #444 of 1022
And just for fun I like to address some of the hyped up praises or myths you might have read or heard repeatedly of MOS ok so here we go:

MYTHS:
- Shannon's General Zod was such an amazing performance and great villain. > Maybe so, but the guy had 1 speed and 1 expression only: ANGRY/CRAZY!
- The audience stood up and cheered/clap when the credit's came up > In our midnight full cinema there wasn't a single clap, cheer, or noise. More like relief or WTF did I just stayed up past my bedtime for?
- Hans Zimmer score was amazing> This is prob just my opinion but def NO. It had no impact on me at all, wasn't anywhere as good as his work in Gladiator.
- The best super hero movie ever made> Urrr sorry no, so close yet so far away. 78 Sup's still #1 followed by Iron man. I would love to say MOS is #3 had it had some soul or substance instead of the campy hoaky Avengers. IDK this is really hard because there so many good things that was offset by the empty ness and dreary theme. It doesn't take much to make it #2 ahead of Iron man with some creative penmanship you know.

TRUTHS:
- Henry Cavill was great as MOS and Clark kent> Big time YES. He was born for this role, IMO dare I say even better than the original 78 Reeve. Physically you couldn't dream of a better person than this.
- R Crowe owned every scene he was in> Yes, it was nice to see him doing stuff like this & Gladiator where he clearly relishes and "becomes" the character.
- Costner, Lane, Adams, were all great> Yes again, but what little screen time they had and it was again fractured and sprinkled here and there that they become merely after thoughts like a dream.
- Zod's cohort Faora was bad ass> Yes this chick is freakin amazing, had great presence and flare. Just loved her style and voice. One of the best villains ever, super bad.


You can't help it but to think that this had all the potential to be the best of all time. All the ingredients were there: like the grade A prime porterhouse steak, the 1K bottle of wine, the freshest organic salad/vegs, etc. But they were all either missing or lacking something :salt & pepper, bland salad dressing, the wine was not chilled properly, the prime Kobe steak was not cooked right still raw.

That's one way I see it. But you know what comes up must go down vice versa so it can only get better from here. So I think the Studio big wigs are pretty smart as they know this reboot will be a bread winner no matter what Snyder does in terms of the lack of script or character so they can afford to save the best for future sequels and pace themselves so not as having the pressure to up themselves from this one.
post #445 of 1022
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And just for fun I like to address some of the hyped up praises or myths you might have read or heard repeatedly of MOS ok so here we go:

MYTHS:
- Shannon's General Zod was such an amazing performance and great villain. > Maybe so, but the guy had 1 speed and 1 expression only: ANGRY/CRAZY!
- The audience stood up and cheered/clap when the credit's came up > In our midnight full cinema there wasn't a single clap, cheer, or noise. More like relief or WTF did I just stayed up past my bedtime for?
- Hans Zimmer score was amazing> This is prob just my opinion but def NO. It had no impact on me at all, wasn't anywhere as good as his work in Gladiator.
- The best super hero movie ever made> Urrr sorry no, so close yet so far away. 78 Sup's still #1 followed by Iron man. I would love to say MOS is #3 had it had some soul or substance instead of the campy hoaky Avengers. IDK this is really hard because there so many good things that was offset by the empty ness and dreary theme. It doesn't take much to make it #2 ahead of Iron man with some creative penmanship you know.

TRUTHS:
- Henry Cavill was great as MOS and Clark kent> Big time YES. He was born for this role, IMO dare I say even better than the original 78 Reeve. Physically you couldn't dream of a better person than this.
- R Crowe owned every scene he was in> Yes, it was nice to see him doing stuff like this & Gladiator where he clearly relishes and "becomes" the character.
- Costner, Lane, Adams, were all great> Yes again, but what little screen time they had and it was again fractured and sprinkled here and there that they become merely after thoughts like a dream.
- Zod's cohort Faora was bad ass> Yes this chick is freakin amazing, had great presence and flare. Just loved her style and voice. One of the best villains ever, super bad.

I pretty much agree with everything you said here, especially with the score. Zimmer let me down big time. Definitely lacked a powerful theme and clearly not his best work.

I do disagree with you on Zod because Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
he was bred to be that way. I think that was the point as he himself stated in the movie. Again, one of the sci-fi elements of the movie I really enjoyed.

I'll reiterate outside of the spoiler tags that there's a really interesting sci-fi element to the film that took me by surprise.

Again, like Zoey said, the cast is amazing. This is the first time I've enjoyed Crowe since Cinderella Man. He really looked like he cared about this one. Amy Adams is fantastic as Lois - A tough, but vulnerable character. Antje Traue, who plays Faora was a real shocker for me. Not only was she bad ass, but she was smoking hot doing it all. And that's saying something because it had nothing to do with her dressing provocatively, but everything to do with how she carried herself and the ferocious look in her eyes.

Cavill is superb as the Man in blue! What a great casting choice. For those who don't know, the man is British! Great screen presence and finally he delivered a proper Clark and Superman. Easily my favorite actor to dawn the red cape.
Edited by Dbuudo07 - 6/14/13 at 9:39am
post #446 of 1022
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Antje Traue, who plays Faora was a real shocker for me. Not only was she bad ass, but she was smoking hot doing it all.

Have you seen Pandorum? If not, then please do, asap! wink.gif
post #447 of 1022
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Have you seen Pandorum? If not, then please do, asap! wink.gif

Gotcha! smile.gif
post #448 of 1022
I have to say, there wasn't a single woman in this movie that I wasn't attracted to. smile.gif All beautiful and all very different.
post #449 of 1022
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Have you seen Pandorum? If not, then please do, asap! wink.gif
Nice job there, that's cool that you're able to pull that one up. I like that movie but her character didn't really stand out or anything to the point it leads me back to her in Pandorum. She reminds me a lot of Lori Petty from Tank Girl. This girl def needs to be casted more, she's got a lot of things to offer besides good looks. She's got something very unique, people keep talking up Zod but to me she stole the whole show

David, we're totally on the same page it seems like with Faora. But about Zod I have to respectfully disagree with you wholeheartedly. Yes I know what you mean that it's his ammo but all the great villains show depth of range like a Gary Oldman or Hannibal can do with their sinister-ism. They can express all of that without jumping up and down like a gorilla. I mean like seriously he had one expression the entire movie yes.
post #450 of 1022
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Nice job there, that's cool that you're able to pull that one up. I like that movie but her character didn't really stand out or anything to the point it leads me back to her in Pandorum. She reminds me a lot of Lori Petty from Tank Girl. This girl def needs to be casted more, she's got a lot of things to offer besides good looks. She's got something very unique, people keep talking up Zod but to me she stole the whole show

David, we're totally on the same page it seems like with Faora. But about Zod I have to respectfully disagree with you wholeheartedly. Yes I know what you mean that it's his ammo but all the great villains show depth of range like a Gary Oldman or Hannibal can do with their sinister-ism. They can express all of that without jumping up and down like a gorilla. I mean like seriously he had one expression the entire movie yes.

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't put him up there with the greats. But I thought for this movie it worked. He wasn't forgettable to me. However, I, like you, love when a villain is more than just a strong brooding menace. My two favorites are Christoph Waltz in Basterds and Nurse Ratchet from Coockoo's Nest.
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