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post #991 of 1022
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+1

And that Hobbit crap.

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We agree. My daughter and grandson, with whose judgments about movies I usually agree, love all of the Lord of the Rings films but I usually fall asleep when I try to watch one. It's good to learn that it's not just me. smile.gif

I did like The Hobbit for some reason though so go figure. It got a little cartoony in those mines.
post #992 of 1022
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JMO, but I think they could have dialed it back a bit. When Clark fought Faora-Ul, Tor-An, or Zod, they didn’t just go through one or two buildings at a time; it was more like 4 or 5. The destruction during those fights was so massive it didn’t seem realistic. Yeah, I know it’s a super-hero facing powerful enemies, but a man has his limitations on how far you push the boundaries of realism, even in this type of movie. Not to mention the human casualties that had to take place during those fights. In this instance, saving the human species, I guess you could say the end justified the means.

One thing those fights created were jobs, lots of jobs. biggrin.gif

Finally caught this last night and mentioned to my wife, during one of the many building destruction scenes, it would have caused only slightly more damage to just let them complete the terraforming. tongue.gif

I still don't like to see buildings coming down. I know it has been over a decade, but am still sensitive to this. That said, I enjoyed this much more than expected, not the emo, angst fest that I feared.
post #993 of 1022
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I've read a breakdown of this somewhere. It was graphic and all scientific.
No fair....I haven't had all of my morning coffee...tongue.gif

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Finally caught this last night and mentioned to my wife, during one of the many building destruction scenes, it would have caused only slightly more damage to just let them complete the terraforming. tongue.gif
Hmmm, not a bad idea.biggrin.gif

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I still don't like to see buildings coming down. I know it has been over a decade, but am still sensitive to this.
You're not the only one...frown.gif
And no one got fired for that clusterf_ck neither.mad.gif
post #994 of 1022
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And no one got fired for that clusterf_ck neither.mad.gif
I'm not sure about your use of "neither" here. If I need to, I can link you to a recent thread between Sanjay and Robert where the lack of clarity concerning the English language got out of hand.

This movie may be my rental tonight. Trying to get caught up on new movies since I've been out of the loop lately with all my a/v and film stuff.
post #995 of 1022
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I'm not sure about your use of "neither" here. If I need to, I can link you to a recent thread between Sanjay and Robert where the lack of clarity concerning the English language got out of hand.

This movie may be my rental tonight. Trying to get caught up on new movies since I've been out of the loop lately with all my a/v and film stuff.

I think "neither" modifies "fired" since it implies there was probably a lesser penalty that should have also been dealt out.
post #996 of 1022
Oh, schnap; not another semantical debate! rolleyes.giftongue.gif
post #997 of 1022
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

+1

And that Hobbit crap.
Another big +1 here too. No freakin sh1t, what is up with all this bombardment for The Hobbit trailers in every channel, Tv show. It's always the same ole crap...the panning of the vast mountain and landscape with the sappy stoic narration of this amazing universe. We had a decade of LOTR which were all a bunch of over the top seriousness nonsense BS and now we have to deal with another decade of The Hobbit series..which is really LOTR lite in which they just changed the name. Seems like all the characters from LOTR and back here also. Same with the Harry Potter crap...all these movies somehow are very successful for the studios which leaves me scratching my head. Guess there's a lot of nerds and geeks out there I'm not aware of.
post #998 of 1022
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I'm not sure about your use of "neither" here. If I need to, I can link you to a recent thread between Sanjay and Robert where the lack of clarity concerning the English language got out of hand.

This movie may be my rental tonight. Trying to get caught up on new movies since I've been out of the loop lately with all my a/v and film stuff.

As noted in earlier posts, I am ambivalent about Man of Steel. Nevertheless, I will recommend it unhesitatingly for a rental. Although the last act seemed bloated, overproduced, and a little boring to me, the first 60 or 70 percent of the film seemed on the way to being the best Superman film ever made. Alas, it was not to be. in short, although I ended up being disappointed by Man of Steel I thought all but the least act was brilliant.

For what it's worth, I would have thought "either" preferable to "neither" but consider the source. smile.gif
post #999 of 1022
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As noted in earlier posts, I am ambivalent about Man of Steel. Nevertheless, I will recommend it unhesitatingly for a rental. Although the last act seemed bloated, overproduced, and a little boring to me, the first 60 or 70 percent of the film seemed on the way to being the best Superman film ever made. Alas, it was not to be. in short, although I ended up being disappointed by Man of Steel I thought all but the least act was brilliant.

For what it's worth, I would have thought "either" preferable to "neither" but consider the source. smile.gif

I agree. The first 70% of the film I was thinking that this was nearly perfect! I did enjoy the last fight but it seemed to be a tad bit drawn out... Wouldn't have minded a prequel with the story about krypton as I really liked the first 20 minutes of the film. I also thought the sound was great!
post #1000 of 1022
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Another big +1 here too. No freakin sh1t, what is up with all this bombardment for The Hobbit trailers in every channel, Tv show. It's always the same ole crap...the panning of the vast mountain and landscape with the sappy stoic narration of this amazing universe. We had a decade of LOTR which were all a bunch of over the top seriousness nonsense BS and now we have to deal with another decade of The Hobbit series..which is really LOTR lite in which they just changed the name. Seems like all the characters from LOTR and back here also. Same with the Harry Potter crap...all these movies somehow are very successful for the studios which leaves me scratching my head. Guess there's a lot of nerds and geeks out there I'm not aware of.

Just a heads up....we are all "nerds and geeks". Anyone who visits a forum on a regular basis called Audio Video Science qualifies. You are a nerd as well, so am I. Who cares as I love this hobby.

I strongly disagree with you about both the LOTR (and Hobbit to some degree) and the HP series. I have run through both this holiday season and will be wrapping up (pun intended for Christmas) with RotK EE tonight. If you are TRULY left "scratching your head" on how these movies could be so successful, all the core concepts of these films flew right over your cynical little head. LOTR in particular at its core is exploring things that can be related to no matter if you are living in Middle Earth or planet Earth. Love, hate, enemies, friendships, good, evil, relationship dynamics, hard work, determination, greed, trying to do the right thing, good eventually overcoming evil, death, life, etc........do I really have to explain to you how and why these films are so successful? All the fancy wrapping of Middle Earth and trolls, dragons, wizards, elfs, goblins, ballrogs, etc.............are just fancy icing for the underlying core elements of all the things we deal with and experience as human beings. I am not saying you have to like the films by any means as movies are subjective as far as how well they get these things across for a variety of reasons, but how you could be left "scratching your head" over the success of these films has me scratching my head. confused.gif I have never had ANY interest in seeing the Twilight films for example, but even what little I have seen I can certainly understand the success at least as I can see this type of thing appealing to a certain demographic (not that it only applies to that demographic) in particular. Just because I have no interest, I can still be level headed enough to understand how it could be popular.


To stay on topic, I thought MoS was overall well done. Not a perfect movie (what is?), but I liked the more serious and dark tone of the film where we did not see a goofy Clark Kent in particular (that might be coming though next film). Curious to see where the next version heads.
post #1001 of 1022
Toe, how was the LFE for you? The audio track may have been the best I have had in my room this year - except for LFE which I found pretty weak.
post #1002 of 1022
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Another big +1 here too. No freakin sh1t, what is up with all this bombardment for The Hobbit trailers in every channel, Tv show. It's always the same ole crap...the panning of the vast mountain and landscape with the sappy stoic narration of this amazing universe. We had a decade of LOTR which were all a bunch of over the top seriousness nonsense BS and now we have to deal with another decade of The Hobbit series..which is really LOTR lite in which they just changed the name. Seems like all the characters from LOTR and back here also. Same with the Harry Potter crap...all these movies somehow are very successful for the studios which leaves me scratching my head. Guess there's a lot of nerds and geeks out there I'm not aware of.
post #1003 of 1022
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Toe, how was the LFE for you? The audio track may have been the best I have had in my room this year - except for LFE which I found pretty weak.

My experience was very similar to yours. Here is what I wrote in the bass thread after I watched it......


Just finished MoS and this bass track was very forgettable IMO. Not only was the lacking extension very much noticed and missed in many scenes, but the low end in general was a bit spotty at times as far as supporting the on screen action. A fair amount of moments, many of which occurred in the opening sequence, where bass did not hit quite like you would expect from my perspective.


The LFE had two problems from my perspective. The first issue was the lacking extension which really hurt the impact on many scenes IMO as they just did not have the weight they could and should have to be fully convincing. Just as big of an issue though for me was the spotty execution. In that opening ~15 minutes or so in particular, there were a number of missed or low bass spots where it just did not hit like you would expect, but then other moments in the film where you would not expect big bass had it at times. Definitely a spotty LFE track IMO. Compare this with something like FotR which I just watched a few nights ago. Even though FotR does not hit quite as deep as some, it never feels lacking at all from my perspective and the execution is about as perfect as it gets for me as spots that call for big bass have it and so on. FotR is still to this day one of the finest overall audio tracks on blu ray for me.


I agree with you though that the audio otherwise in MoS was excellent.
post #1004 of 1022
Just re-watched this over the weekend. First viewing for the wife. Still stand by my original assessment. Good story, decent acting and loads of action. May have to pick this one up!
post #1005 of 1022
^ OK, cool. My IB amp is in a separate room and I fire it up remotely. Every so often I think I have turned it on but it did not turn on. Usually, if the room is quiet ,I can hear the amps fire up through the wall. EP4000's are a little loud and nice to have them in a separate room. But was a little hectic and I did not take the time to confirm they were on. Then the movie starts and the audio is amazing, but no LFE?? My wife hates it when I check the subs in the middle of the movie and people over etc etc and it took a while to determine there was actually some subwoofer action. LOL. But it still seems odd...
post #1006 of 1022
I drove my ex crazy at times doing similar things Cabo. I have this small mental list that I go through before I watch a movie or music......Is the Buttkicker amp off or on depending on if I am watching a movie or music (I always turn it off for music), Is the general volume where I want it, do I have the right EQ setting engaged on my SMS (I use a house type curve for movies and a flat response for music), do I have the right CMS setting engaged on my VP, etc.......The first minute or so of a film is commonly me double checking all this stuff if I forgot to do it beforehand which would drive her nuts! tongue.gif
post #1007 of 1022
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I drove my ex crazy at times doing similar things Cabo. I have this small mental list that I go through before I watch a movie or music......Is the Buttkicker amp off or on depending on if I am watching a movie or music (I always turn it off for music), Is the general volume where I want it, do I have the right EQ setting engaged on my SMS (I use a house type curve for movies and a flat response for music), do I have the right CMS setting engaged on my VP, etc.......The first minute or so of a film is commonly me double checking all this stuff if I forgot to do it beforehand which would drive her nuts! tongue.gif

Ha, funny! And, as it should be...biggrin.gif

The score through the surrounds was amazing. I love big drums through the surrounds and the first half hour or so was a lot of fun. Also, I can't say I have heard more impactful content from the back channels than what this movie had. Really fun audio, which is why I was scratching my head on the lfe...
post #1008 of 1022
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Ha, funny! And, as it should be...biggrin.gif

The score through the surrounds was amazing. I love big drums through the surrounds and the first half hour or so was a lot of fun. Also, I can't say I have heard more impactful content from the back channels than what this movie had. Really fun audio, which is why I was scratching my head on the lfe...


No doubt. If the low end portion of the track had been on par with the rest.........eek.gif

I hate to say it and I hope I am wrong, but chances are (going off AUJ) DoS will have us having this exact same conversation when it hits blu. frown.gif Weak low end, but fantastic otherwise.
post #1009 of 1022
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I'm not sure about your use of "neither" here.
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For what it's worth, I would have thought "either" preferable to "neither" but consider the source. smile.gif
Neither of these posts are worth responding to.tongue.gif

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Oh, schnap; not another semantical debate! rolleyes.giftongue.gif
Semantic wars are the bread & butter of this forum....biggrin.gif
post #1010 of 1022
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I agree. The first 70% of the film I was thinking that this was nearly perfect! I did enjoy the last fight but it seemed to be a tad bit drawn out... Wouldn't have minded a prequel with the story about krypton as I really liked the first 20 minutes of the film. I also thought the sound was great!
The first time through, I really liked this reboot. Loved the Krypton scenes, thought they really did a great job of fleshing it out and explaining what came later. Really liked Cavil as young Clark and Sups...damn that guy is handsome. Liked that Lois figured it out and played a significant part...prior to the Daily Planet/Clark Kent nonsense. The battles....while they sure stepped it up, were a tad monotonous, but I really had no objection. Seemed like they could have minimized property damage a tad. Seems like some might resent Sups for his part in it.

Anyway, since it was a Redbox rental...I watched again immediately. Not quite so inspiring, but I still think it's a very good movie...and my favorite Superman version.
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Neither of these posts are worth responding to.tongue.gif
Semantic wars are the bread & butter of this forum....biggrin.gif

First, I hope you understood that when I posted, "consider the source," I was bringing my own skills as a grammarian into question, not yours. What the hell, though, as you say, semantic wars really are the bread and butter of this forum. smile.gif
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First, I hope you understood that when I posted, "consider the source," I was bringing my own skills as a grammarian into question, not yours.
As a non-practising grammerian, I heartily agree.biggrin.gif

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What the hell, though, as you say, semantic wars really are the bread and butter of this forum. smile.gif
I have said before if by some miracle that only the God of this forum could pull off, everyone here could transported to be an exquisitely magical brewpub it wouldn't take 5 minutes before everyone would be buying each other libations and having a grand time.wink.gif
post #1013 of 1022
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As a non-practising grammerian, I heartily agree.biggrin.gif
I have said before if by some miracle that only the God of this forum could pull off, everyone here could transported to be an exquisitely magical brewpub it wouldn't take 5 minutes before everyone would be buying each other libations and having a grand time.wink.gif


Sounds good to me! Can we do it in Bend as I would love to go back there for a visit! biggrin.gif
post #1014 of 1022
Just finished it about two hours ago. My thoughts are as follows, in random order....

Could have been better (a reoccurring theme with recent movies)
Was great in parts, not so much in others
Cavill was a good Superman (when the script let him be)
I found myself wanting Adams to have less screen time (Annoying and just...unneeded)
Seemed rushed (another reoccurring theme with recent films...I mean hell, who cares about a good story these days?)
Shannon was the weakest movie villain in cinematic history (wanted to give him a shoulder to cry on and pat his little head while he cried. Bitch)
Last 25 or so minutes made me wonder around the room doing different things besides pay complete attention to the film
Actually didn't mind Costner for the first time in many years

There's more but I'm bored with typing. For all it's faults I'm glad I rented it. That means two things. First, I'm glad I didn't blind buy it. Second, I'm glad I saw it.
post #1015 of 1022
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Just finished it about two hours ago. My thoughts are as follows, in random order....

Could have been better (a reoccurring theme with recent movies)
Was great in parts, not so much in others
Cavill was a good Superman (when the script let him be)
I found myself wanting Adams to have less screen time (Annoying and just...unneeded)
Seemed rushed (another reoccurring theme with recent films...I mean hell, who cares about a good story these days?)
Shannon was the weakest movie villain in cinematic history (wanted to give him a shoulder to cry on and pat his little head while he cried. Bitch)
Last 25 or so minutes made me wonder around the room doing different things besides pay complete attention to the film
Actually didn't mind Costner for the first time in many years

There's more but I'm bored with typing. For all it's faults I'm glad I rented it. That means two things. First, I'm glad I didn't blind buy it. Second, I'm glad I saw it.

I see what you're saying about Shannon but I know he can do evil. See Iceman and watch it seethe beneath the surface for two hours.
post #1016 of 1022
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As a non-practising grammerian, I heartily agree.biggrin.gif
I have said before if by some miracle that only the God of this forum could pull off, everyone here could transported to be an exquisitely magical brewpub it wouldn't take 5 minutes before everyone would be buying each other libations and having a grand time.wink.gif

Bullshirt, there'd be chaos in the street inside an hour. Probably officers down too smile.gif
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You know oink; comes up with great-sounding ideas without fully thinking them through.
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Semantic wars are the bread & butter of this forum...
You meant meat-and-potatoes... wink.gif
post #1018 of 1022
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Sounds good to me! Can we do it in Bend as I would love to go back there for a visit! biggrin.gif
I won't be back until the Spring (don't do snow).
If you should drop by, shoot me a PM...we can go do some trout fishing.wink.gif

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For all it's faults I'm glad I rented it. That means two things. First, I'm glad I didn't blind buy it. Second, I'm glad I saw it.
Sound logic.

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Bullshirt, there'd be chaos in the street inside an hour.
Nah, there's no strippers on the street.

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Probably officers down too smile.gif
Don't worry....they would be on the payroll.

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You know oink; comes up with great-sounding ideas without fully thinking them through.
My Stock & Trade.tongue.gif

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You meant meat-and-potatoes... wink.gif
No....the wife said I have to watch my waistline.biggrin.gif
post #1019 of 1022
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I see what you're saying about Shannon but I know he can do evil. See Iceman and watch it seethe beneath the surface for two hours.
Based on your recommendation I did watch The Iceman on Netflix this weekend. Good movie, and Shannon did do a good job there (and Chris Evans proved to me again that he's underrated)...much more impressive here than he was in Superman. Thanks for telling me about it.
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Based on your recommendation I did watch The Iceman on Netflix this weekend. Good movie, and Shannon did do a good job there (and Chris Evans proved to me again that he's underrated)...much more impressive here than he was in Superman. Thanks for telling me about it.

No problem. Glad you liked it.
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