The official Epson 8700UB thread - Page 6

Originally Posted by Jason Turk

If the noise you are hearing sounds like a coffee pot percolating, that is how they normally are.

Originally Posted by Jason Turk

Yes correct...the iris noise.

Epson is the most noticeable audibly.

Originally Posted by cleatus

I was sooo close to getting a 8700 over a p4000...not hearing much here to convince me anymore- maybe I missed the reviews, but not too many "it awesome!"'s. Still may go 4000 if nothing else the motorized shift... (and the 1000 reviews saying it rocks the casba)
bueler?

Originally Posted by cleatus

still dys...just not hearing the raves....

Originally Posted by pottscb

OK, here ya go. I just went into my local pj store and walked into the room where they usually have the JVC RS25 hanging, small ambient lighting, on FoxNews Glen Beck election results...I won't say my mouth was hanging open but it took me five minutes to look up and notice it was the black Epson Pro 9700 hanging there. Before I get flamed, it was high ambient light so blacks would've been washed out a little anyway. Anyway, after dimming the lights the image had tons of pop on a 120" SI 1.3 ga. screen...close inspection of the pixel alignment showed almost no shift. Great color, plenty of brightness and near razor sharpness at 10 ft away from 120" screen...how rave do you want?

Now, does the Pro model have any better QC of convergence? Epson doesn't state so, but, I personally haven't noticed nearly the complaints of pixel shift in the Pro series.

Originally Posted by smorsm3

Art has a review up on projectorreviews.com

It hasn't been proofread and the section about Black Levels starts out a mess, but it's up and it sounds like my new projector has arrived!!!

Originally Posted by cleatus

still dys...just not hearing the raves....

Originally Posted by sb1

Pretty solid review from Art. I was expecting him to say nothing changed from the 8500.

Originally Posted by pottscb

OK, here ya go. I just went into my local pj store and walked into the room where they usually have the JVC RS25 hanging, small ambient lighting, on FoxNews Glen Beck election results...I won't say my mouth was hanging open but it took me five minutes to look up and notice it was the black Epson Pro 9700 hanging there. Before I get flamed, it was high ambient light so blacks would've been washed out a little anyway. Anyway, after dimming the lights the image had tons of pop on a 120" SI 1.3 ga. screen...close inspection of the pixel alignment showed almost no shift. Great color, plenty of brightness and near razor sharpness at 10 ft away from 120" screen...how rave do you want?

Now, does the Pro model have any better QC of convergence? Epson doesn't state so, but, I personally haven't noticed nearly the complaints of pixel shift in the Pro series.

Originally Posted by dysfunction26

Yeah. His review states it is a bit sharper, the out of box calibration (THX mode) is near perfection, better skin tones, and color handling is improved. The only con I see from the 8500Ub is that it is slightly less bright, but it is a miniscule difference. Just to sum up the review in a paragraph...ha ha.

Originally Posted by kaotikr1

I had to replace my 8500 3x and Epson just sent me a new 8700. Great customer service. I mounted it up last night but didn't have a chance to mess around with it. I don't expect any big differences.

Originally Posted by dysfunction26


How long did you have the 8500UB? Does the warranty for the 8700UB end when your existing warranty ends, or is it covered for another full 2 years? That is a question I failed to ask Epson.

Originally Posted by dysfunction26


I just hope he fixes the calibration section by tonight...lol. My replacement 8700UB is coming today. I read that the yellow spot on mine is most likely an issue with the blue polarizer, out of all the Epson units I have had...that was a first. I want to get it all calibrated tonight, and enjoy it over the weekend!

Originally Posted by usarcher

The page for calibration has been cleared out and says info will be posted on the 4th. I'm looking forward to see some other settings to try as I don't have all the tools needed to properly calibrate it myself. But it looks pretty good all by itself.

Originally Posted by ParanoidDroid

Mine should be in on Friday. This will be my first projector so I cant compare it to anything. I'll have some pictures up when I get it. I don't have a screen ready as I have to take everything piece by piece and not break the bank.

After researching some, and going by Art's review, I'm leaning towards just a white 16x9 106" (or close to that) with a 1.5 gain. I'll have some ambient light during the day which can be minimized with curtains. I'll also be watching alot of football with friends and whats the point of watching it in the dark.

Ive attached some pictures of my room setup. Its not going to be an all out movie room like some on here. Ill be sitting about 11 feet from the screen . The room is about 17x13. The ceilings are 10 ft. The 8700 will go next to the picture where Bama is destroying Georgia . Judging by the attached pics, is this a good screen size and gain? I'm looking at spending around 500-600 if this is possible. This part is more confusing than the projector. Any recs?

Originally Posted by zephion

Local home theater distributor called and said "we have the new 9700UB and JVC 550 for you to check out"... I jumped on it and decided to bring the wife and kids with me.

We sat in both demo rooms for about 30 min each watching a combo of HDTV NCAA football, movie on TNT, and Blueray Transformers.

First Impressions from me and the family.

9700UB / 106in white screen / semi dark room:
~ Wife: OMG is this real? Simply stunning, looks better than the movies, HDTV looks super. You made your point - how long before "our" home theater is ready?
~Kids: Dad this is so awesome
~Me: Sports are crisp and jump off the screen (detected some blur in fast crowd movement) could be the settings - not a big deal, BD content looks like a Movie and vibrant colors that pop.

JVC 550 with Anamorphic lens / 110 stewart firehawk / totally dark room:
~Wife: Looks expensive (i have no idea what that means), everything looks perfect but it needs to be dark in here to really get the effect not like the other room. I dont want to sit in the dark all the time to enjoy this thing... I like the other one more (Epson).
~Kids: Dad this rocks! can we get it too?
~Me: breathtaking image on blueray content, HDTV sports - kind of movie like, not crisp. The color and image is life like...

Overall impression: I'm a newbie front projector enthusiast just getting into the game so take what i say as just that " i don't know squat"

Both projectors are as good to better picture quality than our point of reference - which is a 65in panny plasma.

The JVC is outstanding in its picture quality not as bright and does not hold up to ambient light at all. We had to make sure the door was always closed to keep the screen from fading/washing out

The Epson is hard to deny - it did everything just right and image felt comfortable across various content...its a great all around performer and will work in my not so dark, game room, bar, open space basement layout.

In comparing the JVC to the Epson I get the image quality differences and give the nod to JVC (barely) but JVC is not worth 2-3 times the price of the Epson.

Side note: 9700UB vs. Ambient light - this sucker shrugged it off. The demo room has double french doors leading to a main gallery with a couple of table lamps and fixed wall sconces. I would say the equivalent of 60 watt bulb was coming through the doors when open and i have to say picture quality was barely impacted.

If you are waiting to pull the trigger like i was JUST DO IT! FRONT Projection and size cant be beat!

If you cant tell by now I am saving myself the $1000 bucks between the 9700UB and getting the 8700UB with the voucher!

Originally Posted by engelba

This is kind of a calibration question but....

Going through calibrating my 8700UB, I am a bit concered that I am only measuring 12-13 ft-Lamberts in THX mode, bouncing off my cararda "1.3" gain BW screen. I have the contrast set to -3 and I've tried various positions of the meter. Bulb has about 100 hours on it now but wasn't much brighter brand new.

BTW using an eyeOne meter.

Is this normal?

Originally Posted by fight4yu

According to Art's review, THX mode is about 500lumens, so 500/(12/1.3)= 54 Sq ft. That is about 130" diagonal on a 16:9 screen... Also, this is assuming HIGH Lamp.