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post #2371 of 2878
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Originally Posted by GrantMeThePower View Post

Are these still available for sale anywhere?

nope
only ebay
post #2372 of 2878
I had mine a few days. It seems to have a decent picture(no screen yet for total awesomeness) however it will intermittently black out for about 2-3 seconds when I watch a movie, it happened about 4 time during one movie I thought it might be how it was filmed. Then the next movie I watched I had my flat panel hooked up at the same time and it did not black out while the Epson did. Any history on this type of problem? I could send it back to where I bought it or deal with warranty, but just wondering if some owners have had similar problems.
post #2373 of 2878
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Originally Posted by Toksook Bay View Post

I had mine a few days. It seems to have a decent picture(no screen yet for total awesomeness) however it will intermittently black out for about 2-3 seconds when I watch a movie, it happened about 4 time during one movie I thought it might be how it was filmed. Then the next movie I watched I had my flat panel hooked up at the same time and it did not black out while the Epson did. Any history on this type of problem? I could send it back to where I bought it or deal with warranty, but just wondering if some owners have had similar problems.

hdmi issue?
post #2374 of 2878
How long is the HDMI cable? I had this problem with my Sanyo projector at first. I was using a 25ft HDMI cable. I ended up buying a much thicker gauge, same length, and problem resolved forever.

I would be your problem is too long, or too thin (or too cheap!) HDMI cable.

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Originally Posted by Toksook Bay View Post

I had mine a few days. It seems to have a decent picture(no screen yet for total awesomeness) however it will intermittently black out for about 2-3 seconds when I watch a movie, it happened about 4 time during one movie I thought it might be how it was filmed. Then the next movie I watched I had my flat panel hooked up at the same time and it did not black out while the Epson did. Any history on this type of problem? I could send it back to where I bought it or deal with warranty, but just wondering if some owners have had similar problems.
post #2375 of 2878
Hi,

I mean, you can't see the hours because you don't have a bulb, right? Do you put in a new bulb and this doesn't affect bulb hours until you manually reset them?

Thanks,
Mark M.
post #2376 of 2878
I have a new problem with my 8700UB projector. Yesterday I decided to use my Disney WOW disc to re-check my settings. The
problem is that on only one of my saved settings could I see enough of the bars so that I could properly set my brightness! That setting was Living Room. On all of the other settings I just
got a black (grey?) screen, even when running the brightness up
to its highest setting! Any ideas? (I'm using an Oppo 83SE Blu-
ray player if that helps. Any ideas/suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
post #2377 of 2878
Hi,
I have an 8700ub and I am having some issue with it, and its just over a year old. So im thinking about calling Epson to get a replacement. What is epson providing for replacements.
1. Are they providing 8700ub's? Im asking because it seems they are not being made anymore. If they are not supplying an 8700ub as a replacement what are they supplying?
2. If they are 8700's are they new or refurbed models?

Thanks for the input.

Mike
post #2378 of 2878
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Originally Posted by mandroidxl View Post

Hi,
I have an 8700ub and I am having some issue with it, and its just over a year old. So im thinking about calling Epson to get a replacement. What is epson providing for replacements.
1. Are they providing 8700ub's? Im asking because it seems they are not being made anymore. If they are not supplying an 8700ub as a replacement what are they supplying?
2. If they are 8700's are they new or refurbed models?

Refurb 8700UB. Just got a replacement yesterday. Looks like a new lamp, but clearly a refurb. I was having the purple fringe issue on the bottom with mine. Cropped up out of the blue. Now I'm worried that it will happen again after the warranty runs out. I have until November I suppose.

Was secretly hoping for a 5010, but I know that's wishful thinking
post #2379 of 2878
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Originally Posted by GrantMeThePower View Post

Are these still available for sale anywhere?

I was at Stereo East in Frisco Texas today looking at their projection rooms. They have a show coming up Friday and Saturday and they had "around 10" B stock 8700's for sale during the show.
Check your PM for pricing.
Don
post #2380 of 2878
I had my projector stored in a closet for several months while I am building my theater. Three weeks ago I sent in the bulb rebate and found that it stated "within 30 days". I have heard nothing back from them so I think I am screwed on the free bulb.
post #2381 of 2878
In case anyone is still looking for these, Visual Apex is getting in a shipment of refurb 8700ub. Pretty good price too.
post #2382 of 2878
Anyone coming from a lower end epson (6100, 8100, 8350) to the 8700 have white walls/ceiling? Is there still a noticeable improvement in contrast and black level?

Also any comment on the increased display lag of the higher end epsons for FPS gaming? I've seen comments from intangible to unbearable and I'm not sure what the consensus is.
post #2383 of 2878
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Originally Posted by Lemistral View Post

Also any comment on the increased display lag of the higher end epsons for FPS gaming? I've seen comments from intangible to unbearable and I'm not sure what the consensus is.

You can't nest all high end Epson projectors together.

The consensus is this: The 8700UB has "little to moderate lag" and is fine for the vast majority of gamers. I game on mine all the time, and I love it. I play lots of games on Xbox Live, and I still rank in the top for many games (F.E.A.R., Gears of War, Red Dead Redemption, etc). You will not be able to "see" lag on this projector. I have an old Apple acrylic display from the early 2000s, and I can see slight lag on it, so I know what it looks like.

The Epson 6010 for example, has tons of lag and I would not game on it.
post #2384 of 2878
Thanks for the thoughts on lag. Other than price, that was my big concern going to the 8700. I guess I'll pull the trigger on one of the refurbs.
post #2385 of 2878
I was screwed on mine for being 1 day outside of the 30 day window. Keep in mind I purchased my projector while moving into new home. New projector was held at fedex office while I settled in. This does not seem fair.
post #2386 of 2878
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Originally Posted by Lemistral View Post

Anyone coming from a lower end epson (6100, 8100, 8350) to the 8700 have white walls/ceiling? Is there still a noticeable improvement in contrast and black level?

Also any comment on the increased display lag of the higher end epsons for FPS gaming? I've seen comments from intangible to unbearable and I'm not sure what the consensus is.

I've had the 8100, 8350 and now the 8700. I have white walls, ceiling and screen. The 8700 definitely provides better/more noticeable black levels over each. As for gaming lag I haven't noticed any, using pc, ps3 or xbox. I recommend the 8700 over the aforementioned pj's!
post #2387 of 2878
I'm sitting at 1341 hours on my bulb and in the past two weeks the brightness on it has dropped rapidly. At first I thought it was out of calibration so I spent some time dialing the colors back in with my colorimeter. It looked ok for a few days, but still a bit washed out. I could tell that it continued to decline for the last week until finally it was unbearable today, I also noted what looked like occasional minor brightness increases (< about 15% difference), followed by a return to it's previous dim state within about 30 seconds. These seemed to happen every 5 minutes or so.

Is this brightness surging normal at the end of a bulb life?

Is 1341 hours normal? I thought epson claimed up to 4000 hours on this bulb.

I expected some variation between bulbs, and I figured 4000 hours was optimistic, but that seems like a huge difference. Is this just par for the course? Is it normal to have it decline so rapidly at the end of its life? Should I even bother bringing this to Epson's attention?

Thanks for your patience; this is my first PJ so I'm still learning...

P.S.> The majority of my 1341 hours were spent in THX mode on full power.
post #2388 of 2878
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Originally Posted by AntiGenX View Post

I'm sitting at 1341 hours on my bulb and in the past two weeks the brightness on it has dropped rapidly. At first I thought it was out of calibration so I spent some time dialing the colors back in with my colorimeter. It looked ok for a few days, but still a bit washed out. I could tell that it continued to decline for the last week until finally it was unbearable today, I also noted what looked like occasional minor brightness increases (< about 15% difference), followed by a return to it's previous dim state within about 30 seconds. These seemed to happen every 5 minutes or so.

Is this brightness surging normal at the end of a bulb life?

Is 1341 hours normal? I thought epson claimed up to 4000 hours on this bulb.

I expected some variation between bulbs, and I figured 4000 hours was optimistic, but that seems like a huge difference. Is this just par for the course? Is it normal to have it decline so rapidly at the end of its life? Should I even bother bringing this to Epson's attention?

Thanks for your patience; this is my first PJ so I'm still learning...

P.S.> The majority of my 1341 hours were spent in THX mode on full power.

I just called Epson regarding my lamp, that started dimming, but not as extreme as yours. Called at lunch on Monday, had new lamp on my doorstep Tuesday when I got home from work. They have great service. Bulb life isn't a constant. In a way you're kind of lucky it's failing this soon, now you get a fresh one (assuming your under warranty).
post #2389 of 2878
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

nope
only ebay

You can get refurbished 8700ub's from VisualApex.com and a few other places.
post #2390 of 2878
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

I just called Epson regarding my lamp, that started dimming, but not as extreme as yours. Called at lunch on Monday, had new lamp on my doorstep Tuesday when I got home from work. They have great service. Bulb life isn't a constant. In a way you're kind of lucky it's failing this soon, now you get a fresh one (assuming your under warranty).

Yep, my PJ is about a month shy of 1 year old.... So, I just called Epson and they are sending me a free bulb replacement. Wow, I didn't expect that! One more reason I'm glad that I bought an Epson over a Panasonic. My buddy has had nothing but problems with Panasonic tech support.
post #2391 of 2878
Had purchased an ACER h9500BD, but placement options are too limited to replace my Panny AE-1000u. So I exchanged for an EPSON 8700UB, which is coming Tuesday.

Don't care about 3D, so the fact that Epson 8700UB is "only" 2D is not a problem. We just wanted a much brighter PJ, with better blacks, that gave us a great soap opera effect (frame interpolation) to hold us over until not only are 4k projectors at decent prices, but there is actually 4k content to send to a 4K projector that is readily available.

I think for our needs, the Epson 8700UB will be a good replacement for our Panny AE-1000u and hold us over until the age of 4k. Can't wait!
post #2392 of 2878
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I missed the 30 day deadline too, I thought my deadline was the end of March, still sent it in though. We'll see if Epson will step up. I live in Alaska and it took several weeks to arrive to me and then I had to contact Crutchfield for the rebate form which was not included in my box see my previous post. Then it says deadline is March 31st although if you read the fine print there is a 30 day deadline also.

Performance wise the image in the lower right quadrant of the screen bleeds bright colors. For example letters in this section of the screen will bleed white about a foot around the letter where as the same letters in the other areas of the screen will have nice an crisp white letters. Its subtle in the fact that I can tolerate it but wondering what this defect is called and is it normal should I send in my 8700 for repair?
post #2394 of 2878
Just had my 900 hour original bulb in my 8700 begin to rapidly dim this week. One ten minute call to Epson and a new bulb is being overnighted to me as we speak!! Bulb life should definitely be better but at least Epson is backing up their product. I love my 8700's picture quality so hopefully this new bulb lasts a little longer and then I still have my free spare to cover me when the warranty expires. I am sure by the time that bulb goes upgraditis will be in full effect. Any how my main point is if your bulb is dimming give Epson a call, glad I did!
post #2395 of 2878
Is the 8700ub a fit for my HT? The throw distance has to be about 9' 6", the screen is white and 4'x7', so the absolute maximum diagonal is about 96" if I utilize all of it. Currently I have a Sanyo PLV-Z2 (800 lumens, lousy 1300:1 contrast) that utilizes about 70" diagonal of that screen (when viewing 16:9 content). I don't mess with masking, I just project on the portion of the screen the PJ uses, the unmasked portion doesn't bother me. Walls are not bright white, but not dark. The room is very well light controlled. Even daytime, I can get the room virtually dark. Of course, there's some reflection off the ceiling, less from the walls (unless and until I paint those surfaces). Will a 8700ub work in this setting in terms of utilizing the screen area (at least 72" diagonal, hopefully up to 95") and having appropriate brightness? The PJ will go on a shelf of the bookcase across the room from the screen.
post #2396 of 2878
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Originally Posted by GrantMeThePower View Post

Are these still available for sale anywhere?

So, what model replaces the 8700ub?
post #2397 of 2878
Muse,

If you can acquire a 8700Ub, snatch it up. It will do a stupendous job presenting an image of that size. besides Epson's support and warranty, it's brightness and contrast specs (200,000:1) are exemplary.

It could be had at one time during close-outs for a little as $1900.00 but here's one for a little more: \\http://www.electrozone.com/product.aspx?pf_id=8700UB

.and one for even less:
http://www.visualapex.com/Epson/Proj...FYFeTAodjRJgIg

If you can get the last one linked to above...a Refurb w/Full Warranty, jump on on it like a Big Dog in a meaty Bone!

I've used quite a few and it's a great unit.
post #2398 of 2878
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Muse,

If you can acquire a 8700Ub, snatch it up. It will do a stupendous job presenting an image of that size. besides Epson's support and warranty, it's brightness and contrast specs (200,000:1) are exemplary.

It could be had at one time during close-outs for a little as $1900.00 but here's one for a little more: \\http://www.electrozone.com/product.aspx?pf_id=8700UB

.and one for even less:
http://www.visualapex.com/Epson/Proj...FYFeTAodjRJgIg

If you can get the last one linked to above...a Refurb w/Full Warranty, jump on on it like a Big Dog in a meaty Bone!

I've used quite a few and it's a great unit.

Woof! I just snatched it!!! Thanks for the encouragement, I needed that little push! Is that really the last one at Visual Apex? I was worrying they would run out, I can really be a bad luck boy! Well, I got my confirmation. Hope it's a good 'un. I've had the best of luck with my Sanyo PLV-Z2, which I bought basically as soon as it came out in Nov. 2003. No issues at all, only had to blow out dust bunnies every 6-12 months, whenever I couldn't stand them anymore. Using the original crappy filter it came with. 4458 hours on the original bulb, used all in low lamp mode except for 20 hours, situated on my bookcase shelf with lots of room around it. Great PJ except for the horrible blacks/contrast. I'm hoping the 8700ub will spoil me. Guess I'll have to shop for a blu-ray player now and get a blu-ray test disk so I can make sure the 8700ub is up to snuff. Don't suppose my DVD test disk will be much use.

I wish I'd known about this during the closeouts, I guess I could have gotten it with the additional lamp thrown in. I never heard of the 8700ub until 5 days ago when I posted my please help me thread here,
Please suggest replacement for Sanyo PLV-Z2
post #2399 of 2878
Muse, I don't think you got the 'last one'. He meant the last one in his list of suggestions. Vapex has plenty of the refurb 8700ub (for now anyway). The price is great on those and I think you will like it. I have the slightly older 6500ub and its great.
post #2400 of 2878
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Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

Muse, I don't think you got the 'last one'. He meant the last one in his list of suggestions. Vapex has plenty of the refurb 8700ub (for now anyway). The price is great on those and I think you will like it. I have the slightly older 6500ub and its great.

I saw a YouTube video yesterday comparing the 6500ub to a $1000 PJ. It was amazing. The amazing part was at the end when the guy explained that the 6500ub has a high end processor that creates an almost 3D effect. He showed the same scene first with the $1000 PJ and then the 6000ub, and the Epson absolutely blew it away, it was amazing. Here's that Youtube video: $999 HD1080p compared to High End 1080P Home Theater Projectors

Yes, I figured maybe I misunderstood him on the "last one" statement, but TBH it had me hurrying over there to buy it. Actually, I was already pretty close to getting it. I really was seeing nothing else that didn't have a downside compared to the 8700ub. It's big, is the biggest problem with it for me, but I figure that's something I can deal with, and once dealt with it won't be a problem. The other thing that had me seriously concerned is the fact that in this thread there are a lot of complaints about problems with this PJ, artifacts, lamps that die prematurely, various others. I read those until I was fairly paranoid. However, I realize that dedicated threads like these naturally attract those who have serious problems with the merchandise. It's just not quantifiable. Maybe 97% of the buyers have no problems at all, how can I know? I was unhappy that I missed the rebate for a replacement lamp, especially since I was seeing so many post by people who said their lamps went out pretty early. My situation may be different, though. My throw is very short, under 10 feet, and my light control is excellent. I will probably be able to run this PJ at reduced brightness, as reduced as it will allow and still have plenty of light. That should extend the life of the lamp greatly. If the lamp isn't defective, it might approach the manufacture's estimated life span of 4000 hours, well I can hope!
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