Originally Posted by dhenryp
I'm thinking of getting an 8700UB refurb as a replacement for my Epson 6500 that is suffering from the dreaded "red bar" on the top of the image. I am also considering a new Epson 5010 but I'm really not very interested in 3D.
Is the 8700 comparable in 2D performance to the 5010? The 8700 has a much higher rated contrast ratio. Does anyone know if going from a 6500 to the 8700 would be a significant improvement in performance?
One last thing, I've seen refurbs on Visual Apex. Are there other sellers?
My upgrade was a much bigger quantum leap, from my 1300:1 contrast ratio to the 200,000:1 8700ub. I'm thrilled with what I'm getting. I haven't painted my ceiling yet (a low grade virus has sapped my energy this week), but will do it as soon as I'm feeling 100% (painting the ceiling in my HT room is for a gung ho day!). I have the paint, the tools.
I thought about the 5010 because at the time, my choice of a BD player (the Panny 220) was 3D capable, besides as a kid 3D at the movies knocked me out! However, I'm grown up now, have relatively sophisticated tastes, figure that movies made in 3D are apt to not please me on an artistic level the great majority of the time. If it were not much more money, I'd have gone for it, but my refurb from Visual Apex at $1599 was way cheaper than the prices I was seeing for the 5010 (around $2500), so I figured black black black / contrast contrast contrast, 3D be damned.
Your saying the 5010 has inferior contrast ratio I think is in error. At Amazon it says:The PowerLite Home Cinema 5010 brings the power of 3D right to your living room with Bright 3D Drive technology and full HD, 1080p performance. Immerse yourself in eye-popping 3D adventures, 2400 lumens color and white light output1 and an astounding contrast ratio up to 200,000:1.
For myself, that 2400 lumens compared to the 1600 of the 8700ub is total overkill. In fact, the 1600 is overkill, even toned down (Eco mode, rolled back brightness) it's way brighter than my old Sanyo Z2. However, that Z2's bulb has ~4500 hours on it!