The official Epson 8700UB thread - Page 24

Thanks for referencing that link.
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Again if your going to get a 8700 Get an inspected one from AVS....

Not my JVC 250 .

fraisa was referring to the 8700. You were referring to all projectors.

Miscommunication resolved.

I bought the 8350 a month and a half ago. I finally broke down and ordered the 8700 with intent on selling the 8350 if I liked it. I really thought I would be sending it back because I had doubts the difference would be that much. Wow, was I wrong. Since I had a dedicated theater room, the difference was huge. I don't see how it could get any better than the 8700. Even disregarding the screen size, the image quality is still better than my high end Samsung LCD tv.

If any of you guys are trying to decide between the two and you have a dedicated theater room, do whatever you can to get the 8700 instead. Sell your blood or have a garage sale to raise the extra money. You'll always be disappointed you settled for the 8350.

Thank you for this, I feel better about my purchase now

I have 1080ub I believed purchased from Jason..Anyway I recieved my 8700UB today at ABT..My question is that are the ceiling mount holes is as close as the 1080ub? thanks.

p.s.
The reason I asked is because I have the prismasonic anamorphic lens and is a pain to move the mount..

I would never buy any Projector with out it being inspected before purchase.......
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But you shouldnt listen to me cause i make everyone wanna buy a SI Black Diamond Screen....lol
ha ha ha
Damn I am Good Lookin

I am about to pull the trigger to replace my AE-700U with the 8700. Have any of you done similar upgrades? What are your thoughts on the difference? Will my wife notice the difference?

Currently we have a 102" screen, fairly well light controlled environment. Watch sports with the lights in the back of the room on, movies with all the lights out.

I have never been quite happy with how the AE-700U looks during fast action scenes and/or quick movement in sports. The screen seems to briefly smear, all the sharpness gets lost. Will the 8700 handle these difficult scenes better?

Help push me over the edge, or pull me back from it!

-JH-

The 8700 will be an amzing match for u......
I have screen shots over at the 9700 thread which is this units twin.
Sports and Movies...
Lights on and dark seens..
YOu will love this 8700...
Just listen to me about getting the unit inspected before purchase and you will be on the wife's good books

PM Testimony from fellow avs member

And i Quote......
First off I love your setup. It really is inspiring my future living room setup. I am now looking at getting the epson 8700 and a Black Diamond .8 screen. Thanks and keep all those great pics coming!
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Again if your getting a 8700 get it from a place like avs
who inspects them before purchase.....
AVS has a really awesome promo that they are currently running on this unit...

Thinking HARD about buying this in the next few days, before the $100 instrebate goes away on the 15th. My 720p ax200 Panasonic still looks pretty good, but +3000 hours on the lamp, and am noticing a red/rust discoloration in the lower right. I won't be buying a new lamp, or replacing any panels.

So the big question is, with the D7 inorganic panels, the free spare lamp, and epson's 2 year warranty. I'm hoping for a long life from this projector. Any thoughts?

EJ,

New owner here (installed my 8700 eight days ago) and I'm very happy. I come from a 61" Samsung DLP rear projection and I'm impressed with the brightness, black levels, and resolution of the Epson. I am projecting onto a 135" Elite Cinegray screen by the way. My friends who came over for movie night were equally blown away.

Ninja edit: I am utilizing THX mode on the PJ, completely darkened room, PS3 provides the source signal

If you can afford it, do it.

It will be projected onto an 88" 1.0 gain screen, so I'm hoping to be able to use the THX setting even with some slight ambient light during the day.

Looking at the specs, it should work fine. The max span between Epson's mounting screws is around 13.5". The documentation of npl mount states that it will work with projectors under 18.5" spread between holes.

I am considering their ultra low profile mount http://www.mountdirect.com/LFM_Proje...lack_p/lfm.htm

That will be fine, just make sure to calibrate it for daytime under the expected lighting conditions and save it as one of the 10 presets I've calibrated for a slew of different situations, I only have one left!

Then again, idiocy and greed enter the equation.

Back when I was a tank commander in the Army, we were pulling quarterly service on our M1 Abrams. We were seating the powerpack (engine & transmission) back in the hull and bolting things down. I dropped a bolt and it fell under the pack into the bottom of the hull. I went up to the maintenance bay and found we were out of those bolts that just happened to cost $32 each. So I went back to my tank, removed the other bolt, jumped on my motorcycle and headed off post to the local hardware store. I found the exact same bolt with the same stampings on the head for......... $0.92

I agree that if a product is made in limited supply, it will be more expensive. But to spend $2,000-$3,000 dollars on a screen?

Will my PQ be 16-25x better than my DIY $120, 110" screen?

Doubtful.

Not going to stand by and have people knock these other type of screens ,
The owner of this site Has a BD SI screen look at his comment...
Testimony of the black Diamond.....

The 8700 on a black diamond will produce an amazing picture and make your 2000 $ projector look like a you spent alot more money than you did.....

Do you need a high end screen all depends on your room.
Enough said....

Will go back to what i have said above,
From what i am seeing coming in from epson,
You really need to make sure your new 8700 is inspected before purchase...

If you got your unit and it wasnt inspected and its still mint,
YOu got lucky

Hello everyone,

I am a former 6500UB owner. I originally purchased the 6500 in 1/09 and had nothing but headaches. After four (yes, four!) units with bad convergence problems, I finally got a keeper 6500 in 5/09. I calibrated the unit as per Stereomandan and Smallpooldad's instructions utilizing HCFR with an eye one lt. The disc I used was the AVSHD one found on this forum.

The picture was absolutely stunning! So a year and a half later, on 1/10/11, I got a loud fan noise and two flashing red lights. As per the manual it indicated a possible auto iris problem. I turned it off and back on and cannot replicate the issue again. It worked fine. But four days prior to the expiration of my two year waranty (expires on 1/9/11), I got nervous and called tech support on 1/11.

After going back and forth for an hour and a half; the time in which they offered me a refurb 6500UB. I persisited and requested a new unit. I am not taking any refurbs with the issues they have. They then transferred me to level 3 support and Jack (great guy) offered a refurb 8500. I again persisted and refused to take a refurb. I expounded on the reason why I chose Epson and not any other pj companies due to their great customer service. I insisted I wanted either a new 6500, 8500 and if they didn't have any, a NEW 8700UB! Jack finally relented and agreed to ship me a brand spanking new 8700UB!

I woke up today at 1:30pm ( I work shift work as a Police Officer) and sitting in my foyer was a brand new 8700UB! Funny, the FedEx guy told my wife he recalls delivering at least 3 pjs in the last two years! I would have corrected him and told him this was the fifth pj from Epson he delivered!

So I can't wait to set this up in THX mode and calibrate it! Projecting to a 119 Carada brilliant white screen in a batcave of a home theater. I hope there are no issues....

Please post your thx calibration settings and congrats

Lucky dog!

For the free lamp, Epson asks for "A copy or original of the product serial number". What does that mean? The serial number is only on the sticker on the back of the proj. Surely they don't expect us to remove that sticker or take a photo of it? Is it enough just to hand-write the serial number?

I just sent my rebate in two weeks ago. The product serial number on the box the projector came in was actually a tear away sticker. The serial number was listed on there twice, at the top of the sticker and at the bottom. The bottom half was perforated so I just tore it off and that was what I used to mail in for the rebate.

On a side note I received a confirmation email from epson that my rebate was complete and accepted I should be getting my bulb in the mail in a few weeks.

Also as noted by a few others I plan to remove the bulb that came in my projector and insert the new rebate bulb and use it as my main bulb. I have about 20 hrs on the original bulb and assume it's a good one as it didn't blow up in the first ten hours. The reasoning is that when you go to replace your blown bulb with your spare you know it will work and not blow up right away since you have already broke it in a little bit. That would probably suck to have your projector bulb blow and replace it with another bulb that blows up right away.

Here is some better pics of that Premier Mount Designed specifically for All epson Projectors....
Plate mounted to base with no ugly legs.
Front dials on upper base allow for adjustments
Again this mount is designed for All Epson Projectors,,
As the outside case is same body on all units.....

Does anyone like those Mini Levels.... they come in handy let me tell ya...

So I'm still trying to convince myself to spend the $900 more it will take to get the 8700. I am looking at the 8350. I'm in Canada and the going price is around $1399. In Canada the 8700 is $2599, but if I order from B&H Photo I can get it for $2099 USD plus shipping and duties/taxes. The difference after our 13% Canadian tax is like $900. But I'm not sure about ordering from B&H Photo since I'm in Canada.

Anyone have any advice? I will be using a 106" screen in a 14.5' x 25' room with projector mounted about 17' from screen and main seating area about 15' from screen. The room has some potential for light to enter from the upstairs since my stairs lead into this room. There are also two windows, one in the back and one on the side but they will use blackout curtains and most watching will be taking place in the night time.

I'm wondering if the CIF, THX, UB, Contrast, and some of the other advantages the 8700 offer are worth around $900.

My original budget was about $1500 for the projector, the 8350 seemed like the best fit for that money (about $1580 CAD taxes included). I'm very tempted to try and stretch my budget to make the $2490 it would cost to get the 8700 from B&H work. But since I've never had a projector before and can't see them in action before I buy I don't know if it is worth it. I'm hoping to make this projector last for years before replacing it (3-4 at least). The 8700 also comes with a mail in for $100 off and an extra bulb so after mail in rebates the actual cost is $100 more and I'd have an extra bulb worth around $350.

HELP

Get it from Jason here at AVS, at least then you will know the unit has been tested. they ship to Canada as well.

I didn't know they shipped to Canada. I tried the online checkout and it said my address wasn't supported. Maybe I just need to call them? Is Jason best to deal with? Any idea of who they ship with and the shipping cost for Canada?

Attached is the HCFR calibration I just performed on the 8700. I didn't wait 100 hrs and did the calibration with just a few hrs on the bulb. Auto Iris was turned off during calibration. I did the Black level, White level first, then color, tint. Gamma was set to 2.3. My delta E's on grayscale is mostly under 1! I did not touch the saturations. But the picture looks great. I did do the saturations as per Stereomandan on my 6500UB. Stereoman, I hope you can review my file and let me know what you think.

 

8700 calibration.zip 1.4208984375k . file

Well after looking at the picture some more, I decided to adjust the CMS also. I utilized the saturation method outlined by Stereomandan (in the 6500UB forum). The colors look much more vibrant and less "washed out" I attached the updated HCFR file and also the excel spread sheet to help with the calibration.

 

8700 calibration.zip 1.4208984375k . file

 

8700.zip 374.47265625k . file

Hey den did you start with thx or dynamic?

Started and stayed with THX. Turned iris on high after I finished the calibration. Picture looks inky and colors pop. Just watched "The Other Guys." There was one scene where the actors are by a waterfront in the night with the NY skyline behind them. It looks simply fantastic.