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post #1621 of 2293
You used the 4-way advanced plug-in too, right? Is that the way to go or would you do anything different? Did you use their UMIK too?
post #1622 of 2293
Yes, 4-way advanced. That way with one input it will output the same signal to all for outputs. You can still EQ and HP/LP each of those 4 outputs separately from each other of course.

For a mic I have a calibrated EMM-6 and use REW.
post #1623 of 2293
Thanks Luke, I think I'll go with that and the Cross-Spectrum calibrated UMIK. Looks like the best budget mic when calibrated by them, and it's USB.

Does the mic plug directly in to the MiniDSB?
post #1624 of 2293
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Originally Posted by d_c View Post

Thanks Luke, I think I'll go with that and the Cross-Spectrum calibrated UMIK. Looks like the best budget mic when calibrated by them, and it's USB.

Does the mic plug directly in to the MiniDSB?

The USB on the balanced MiniDSP is how you connect to the GUI. The UMIK will connect to your pc/laptop and will be the input source for REW.
post #1625 of 2293
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Originally Posted by lukeamdman View Post

The USB on the balanced MiniDSP is how you connect to the GUI. The UMIK will connect to your pc/laptop and will be the input source for REW.

can I use the HDMI out to the receiver to get the signal to the amps. Is anyone using their Omni Mic for REW
post #1626 of 2293
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Originally Posted by lukeamdman View Post

Yes, 4-way advanced. That way with one input it will output the same signal to all for outputs. You can still EQ and HP/LP each of those 4 outputs separately from each other of course.

For a mic I have a calibrated EMM-6 and use REW.

I just purchased the 4-way advanced plugin since my setup is pretty much exactly like the other guys setup. However, I'm having a problem. It seems that this plugin thinks there is only one input. My receiver is a Denon 4311ci and it has two discrete outputs so when I go to run Audyssey I'm not getting anything from sub 2. The MiniDSP is just sending both sub inputs out as one instead of two discrete. Can someone please help me figure out what is wrong?

Perhaps the more appropriate/important question would be is there a way to assign input 1 to output 1 and input 2 to output 2?
Edited by NateTTU - 6/30/13 at 4:02pm
post #1627 of 2293
The 4-way plugin is for a single 4-way speaker and not a pair of 2-ways. It combines the inputs (or ignores one?).

Try the 2-way or 2.1 plugin if you need two separate inputs.
post #1628 of 2293
nearly done with my 2x4 balanced

post #1629 of 2293
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Originally Posted by ufokillerz View Post

nearly done with my 2x4 balanced


very nice!
post #1630 of 2293
finished ahead of time, was not expecting to finish it anytime soon, super procrastinator here.



post #1631 of 2293
That's nice. I like the connections. The tiny screw-on connectors on mine really bother me. I have already ripped out more than one set of wires moving things around, and have cursed them for not having xlr connectors to begin with. Where did you get the box, or is it all custom?
post #1632 of 2293
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Originally Posted by d_c View Post

That's nice. I like the connections. The tiny screw-on connectors on mine really bother me. I have already ripped out more than one set of wires moving things around, and have cursed them for not having xlr connectors to begin with. Where did you get the box, or is it all custom?

case is from http://www.takachi-enclosure.com/

i cut all the holes myself.
post #1633 of 2293
have a question
so i have the 2x4

what i want to use is have 1 or 2 sub inputs, but 4 separate sub outputs, is that possible with a 2x4?

if so which plugin could do it?
post #1634 of 2293
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Originally Posted by ufokillerz View Post

have a question
so i have the 2x4

what i want to use is have 1 or 2 sub inputs, but 4 separate sub outputs, is that possible with a 2x4?

if so which plugin could do it?

I believe for 4 outputs you will need to use both inputs. Input 1 seems to be mapped to outputs 1+3, and input 2 to 2+4. The 2x4 advanced plugin you have will do that.
post #1635 of 2293
The 4-way advanced plugin will only use 1 input (in the GUI you can choose which), and it will output the same signal to all 4 outputs.
post #1636 of 2293
From the 4-way advanced datasheet:

post #1637 of 2293
Did anyone ever figure out what phoenix cables to use with the 10x10 boxes where you don't have to take off the connectors and run bare wire into the box?
post #1638 of 2293
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Originally Posted by Decadent_Spectre View Post

Did anyone ever figure out what phoenix cables to use with the 10x10 boxes where you don't have to take off the connectors and run bare wire into the box?

Nope... Have yet to see the correct Phoenix connector.
post #1639 of 2293
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Originally Posted by lukeamdman View Post

The 4-way advanced plugin will only use 1 input (in the GUI you can choose which), and it will output the same signal to all 4 outputs.

I can confirm this as well. However, I have not yet purchased the 2 way advanced to see if that has 2 discrete inputs.
post #1640 of 2293
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

I believe for 4 outputs you will need to use both inputs. Input 1 seems to be mapped to outputs 1+3, and input 2 to 2+4. The 2x4 advanced plugin you have will do that.

thanks, apparently i have the 2 way advance, not the 4 way,
looks like i should buy the 4 way

actually it seems that 2 way advance that i have has everything i'll need, tinker with this a bit this weekend!

looks like 2 discrete inputs, and 4 discrete outputs.

wanted to run my 2x danley dts 10's through separate channels so that i can try audyssey subeq ht on my marantz,
but also wanted to to LPF my buttkickers without using another unit that i am right now.
Edited by ufokillerz - 7/2/13 at 9:21pm
post #1641 of 2293
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Originally Posted by NateTTU View Post

I can confirm this as well. However, I have not yet purchased the 2 way advanced to see if that has 2 discrete inputs.

I replied to your query in post #1629

The 2-way and 2.1 plugins do have two separate and active inputs. They are designed to XO a stereo pair. These plugins still allow four subs with a single sub-out by using a splitter.
post #1642 of 2293
Cool thanks. I need to read up a little and see which version would: work better for my situation. I'm not sure if that .1 would help or cause more problems in my current setup.
post #1643 of 2293
Ok so the MiniDSP can do subsonic filtering (high pass), EQ everything, then do the low pass function?
post #1644 of 2293
I have been setting up the MiniDSP in my system and now I have a few questions. I tried doing some EQ with both of my subs as one, but now when I go back to rerun Audyssey it tells me my sub levels do not match. I have done this two times now so it has me thinking. should I only use the MiniDSP to EQ the subs individually and let Audyssey on my receiver do them together? That way they will already be matched and it won't throw off any of my EQ settings. Also, it seems that I have a pretty big spike at 50 & 70 hz and a big null at 60. I was able to flatten things out, but it required a lot of gain and trim and I noticed it started to make the sound ring a bit. What is a good default max amount of trim and gain to use?
post #1645 of 2293
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Originally Posted by diaz View Post

Ok so the MiniDSP can do subsonic filtering (high pass), EQ everything, then do the low pass function?

Yes
post #1646 of 2293
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Originally Posted by NateTTU View Post

I have been setting up the MiniDSP in my system and now I have a few questions. I tried doing some EQ with both of my subs as one, but now when I go back to rerun Audyssey it tells me my sub levels do not match. I have done this two times now so it has me thinking. should I only use the MiniDSP to EQ the subs individually and let Audyssey on my receiver do them together? That way they will already be matched and it won't throw off any of my EQ settings. Also, it seems that I have a pretty big spike at 50 & 70 hz and a big null at 60. I was able to flatten things out, but it required a lot of gain and trim and I noticed it started to make the sound ring a bit. What is a good default max amount of trim and gain to use?


Did you readjust the receiver's setup to use only one sub? Audyssey may be pinging the second sub and getting nothing in return, hence, the level disparity.

Don't waste your amp trying to fill a null. Move the sub(s) and/or manipulate their distance settings (phase).

Don't exceed 24dB of total boost per channel or you'll overload the Mini. It's a good idea to monitor the numerical readouts of the output meters while playing a particularly loud movie scene (I use the bridge collapse in War of the Worlds and the convenience store scene in Cloverfield). Keep the readouts in the negative range.

Can't say how much boost (other than 24dB per channel max), it'll depend on the frequency, the sub and the amp.
If it sounds ugly, that's a sign to turn it down or pull down the boost. Be judicious with the boost. You trade dynamics for bandwidth. IOW, if you raise the bottom, the input level must be monitored to find the point where the boosted frequencies cause distress to the driver or amp. This may mean that your maximum safe input level is lower and this will reduce the overall safe level that the system should be run.

Edit: I would take a measurement before running Audyssey, then take a measurement after running Audyssey, to see where I stood, before doing anything with the Mini.
Edited by Oliver Deplace - 7/5/13 at 1:18pm
post #1647 of 2293
Hello

I am trying to wrap my head around the MiniDSP and it looks very interesting over a BFD. I want to EQ to THT subs using plates amps and wanted to see which MiniDSP and plugin would be suggested. I would like the option of adding more subs (I know two THTs is a lot in themselves) so I am thinking a 2x4 would be the one to choose but which plugin? I will be using REW as well.
post #1648 of 2293
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Originally Posted by LexMan View Post

Hello

I am trying to wrap my head around the MiniDSP and it looks very interesting over a BFD. I want to EQ to THT subs using plates amps and wanted to see which MiniDSP and plugin would be suggested. I would like the option of adding more subs (I know two THTs is a lot in themselves) so I am thinking a 2x4 would be the one to choose but which plugin? I will be using REW as well.

Balanced (either in-a-box or just the board), 4-way Advanced.
post #1649 of 2293
Does the MiniDSP work with a Bash or Dayton plate amp?

BTW, which one to pick between bash 300 and dayton 250?

EDIT: Just looked into iNuke1000DSP. That thing amplifies AND DSP??? WOuld save me a lot of messin around!
Edited by diaz - 7/5/13 at 5:17pm
post #1650 of 2293
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

Balanced (either in-a-box or just the board), 4-way Advanced.

Thanks for your reply. One question, why not unbalanced?
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