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post #211 of 646
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Originally Posted by haggisbingo View Post

If you're refering to my statement about local file playback, from Roksbox, it's an HTTP stream of an MP4 from a web server (in my case IIS on Win 2003 Server). Seems to work very efficiently even over wireless G with HD mp4s (no rebuffering at all..).

Ahh, gotcha, local to your network then. Not off the usb port. Is there any usb playback yet?

I have a windows home server, I could probably set up something for the Roku...

Thanks, Greg
post #212 of 646
Apparently there's a channel for Mymedia which can run on whs, probably on a pc too.
post #213 of 646
I've had my Roku XD for 10 days and so far I'm tickled pink. The free trial of Netflix has exceeded my expectations and I plan to keep it at $7.99/mo.

I am puzzled about the reported bandwidth I get for various channels. I activated Roku's Debugging feature, so I see the video bandwidth and my network speed when a new show is started.

Typically, on a Netflix HD movie, it shows 3.8 Mb/s on my 6.2Mb/s Network. On a low quality channel like Pub-D-Hub, it shows 0.8 or 1.5 Mb/s on my 6.2 Mb/s network. However, YouTube consistently shows 0.8 Mb/s on my 0.8 Mb/s network.

I understand the first 0.8Mb/s for the lower quality YouTube videos, but why does Roku show my network is only capable of that low bandwidth? I've tried immediately jumping back to Netflix and it always shows 6.2Mb/s network.

A J
post #214 of 646
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Originally Posted by A J View Post

I've had my Roku XD for 10 days and so far I'm tickled pink. The free trial of Netflix has exceeded my expectations and I plan to keep it at $7.99/mo.

I am puzzled about the reported bandwidth I get for various channels. I activated Roku's Debugging feature, so I see the video bandwidth and my network speed when a new show is started.

Typically, on a Netflix HD movie, it shows 3.8 Mb/s on my 6.2Mb/s Network. On a low quality channel like Pub-D-Hub, it shows 0.8 or 1.5 Mb/s on my 6.2 Mb/s network. However, YouTube consistently shows 0.8 Mb/s on my 0.8 Mb/s network.

I understand the first 0.8Mb/s for the lower quality YouTube videos, but why does Roku show my network is only capable of that low bandwidth? I've tried immediately jumping back to Netflix and it always shows 6.2Mb/s network.

A J

I've never seen a definitive answer to that question, but a quick search at the Roku forums did yield the following:

http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?p=175988#p175988

The theory put forth in that post is from the YouTube channel developer, nowhereman, who is now actually a Roku employee (RokuChris). Perhaps if you read the remainder of that thread the answer might reveal itself further. Truth be told, in the end I don't think it really has much affect on your viewing experience, YouTube or otherwise.
post #215 of 646
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Originally Posted by john barlow View Post

does your FF and rewind lag? I am considering upgrading to the new XDS from the legacy HD XR Roku because of wireless lag when ff and rewinding.

As someone else responded there is a lag due to buffering if you FF. If I had to guess I'd say something like 5 seconds? The Rewind though is instant since it is content I've already viewed and it doesn't need to buffer.
post #216 of 646
I download movies to my office computer upstairs. a) Can the XDS stream video from that computer hard drive to my large screen HD TV downstairs via my wireless N router? b) If so, how and c) is it a quality HD picture?
I have a PS3, so I don't need NETFLIX.
post #217 of 646
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Originally Posted by fdwarren View Post

I download movies to my office computer upstairs. a) Can the XDS stream video from that computer hard drive to my large screen HD TV downstairs via my wireless N router? b) If so, how and c) is it a quality HD picture?
I have a PS3, so I don't need NETFLIX.

Technically, yes the Roku (any of the models) can stream movies off your local network via your wireless N router. However, the codecs and file containers that are supported are severely limited, so you'll more than likely need to convert your movies to a Roku-friendly format. See the table posted here for supported containers/codecs:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post19433155

That table is from the 2.7 SDK. I believe the 2.8 SDK is now available, but AFAIK, the supported containers and codecs haven't changed much, if at all.

The other thing to keep in mind is you'll need a computer running an http server to serve up the files. The Roku does not support uPnP, DLNA, SMB, etc., so you can't just connect to a network share and start streaming. You need an http server. Then you'll need to install one of the local network streaming channels on your Roku (Roksbox, MyMedia, Chaneru, etc.), and then you're set.

The XD, XDS and XR support video up to 1080p (1080p24 and 1080p30 only; 1080p60 is not supported), so yes, HD is possible. Whether or not you can get HD quality movies to stream over your wireless N network, is another story.

So, yes, it can be done, but it's not as easy as it should be. I'd recommend going with a different STB for local network streaming. The Roku boxes are great for internet content, but not so great for local content.
post #218 of 646
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Originally Posted by fdwarren View Post

I download movies to my office computer upstairs. a) Can the XDS stream video from that computer hard drive to my large screen HD TV downstairs via my wireless N router? b) If so, how and c) is it a quality HD picture?
I have a PS3, so I don't need NETFLIX.

Yes, but you will need to convert media to MP4 via Handbrake and recommended settings. We use Roksbox to play from an HTTP stream from IIS web server on the network. Quality is excellent.

If you don't want to convert, an option I've tested is Playon's local media option with Roku. I think it uses VLC to play whatever content you have. When I tested the quality was not as good as the Roksbox/MP4 versions...
post #219 of 646
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Originally Posted by A J View Post
I am puzzled about the reported bandwidth I get for various channels. I activated Roku's Debugging feature, so I see the video bandwidth and my network speed when a new show is started.
How do you "activate the debugging feature"?
post #220 of 646
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Originally Posted by wildgoose View Post
How do you "activate the debugging feature"?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post19505132

See #2.
post #221 of 646
Hello everyone I am about to recieve my first Roku box today. I ordered the Roku XDS. I own 3 other media devices apple tv2, wd Live, and a Boxee Box (which is going back way to many issues and stability)

So without getting into all those other devices and comparing I would like to know one thing. I have a TON of media on my PC I use Air Video, Play on etc to transcode to other devices around the house.

What is the BEST solution for avi/mkv/x264 files to be sent to the Roku XDS over a wired connection? I know no official supported app will work, but I have heard of a few private channels Gabilian, My Media, Roxsbox, etc can someone who has this working let me know your thoughts on the matter.

Also is there any YOU NEED TO DO THIS first type of things I should do once I unbox and firmware update it?

Thanks in advance.

Dorfdad
post #222 of 646
I've had my Roku for about 2 weeks now and LOVE IT!!! I love the value, the portability of it, the simplicity, and the ease of use. I would love to get a few more for the house as there are five of us and already there has been the bickering over who gets to use it.

One question I have is can you use the same Netflix account for multiple Rokus? The value suddenly goes down if all the Rokus I have cannot access Netflix. Anyone try this?
post #223 of 646
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Originally Posted by tnburban View Post

One question I have is can you use the same Netflix account for multiple Rokus? The value suddenly goes down if all the Rokus I have cannot access Netflix. Anyone try this?

You can have up to 6 devices registered with your Netflix account at any given time (you can deactivate one of the 6 to activate another relatively easily.) These 6 can be computers, BR players, Roku boxes, etc. or a combination of them.

-Suntan
post #224 of 646
Not sure if this has been asked but will the Roku be able to do DTS-HD audio? Just wondering, as it does sound good with 5.1 Digital. Thanks
post #225 of 646
And also under the not sure if it has been asked, BB carries the XDS, can I get the HD anywhere other than from them?
post #226 of 646
Hey guys,

First time post, but i've been stalking this forum for a while.

I just received a XD for christmas. I was able to successfully set it up with the red white and yellow cable, but when i try HDMI my TV(s, i've tried this with more than one) displays "unsupported format" and doesn't display anything else. I've attempted this with my 24" isymphony, my 40" toshiba, and my 42" phillips. I know it's not the hdmi port on the tv's as my PS3 loads up fine on all three without issue.

When I do have it on the AV connection, i can watch and hear everything fine, i can even change the display to 1080p, but it won't switch to HDMI for it to "stick" to the format.

Any ideas?
post #227 of 646
Just in case it has not been done, have you gone into the setup menu (on the Roku) and changed its output to HDMI 720p or HDMI 1080p?
post #228 of 646
I have, i've gone from widescreen to 720p to 1080p and no changes. i'm receiving a replacement today from amazon, but i'm curious if you can just do the initial setup with hdmi and skip the av cables or if they are required, then change to hdmi? anyone have a specific order on how we can do this without upsetting to roku gods?

I'm thankful for any insight.
post #229 of 646
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Originally Posted by play3rtwo View Post

I have, i've gone from widescreen to 720p to 1080p and no changes. i'm receiving a replacement today from amazon, but i'm curious if you can just do the initial setup with hdmi and skip the av cables or if they are required, then change to hdmi? anyone have a specific order on how we can do this without upsetting to roku gods?

I'm thankful for any insight.

I just plugged the HDMI cable and the power cable in on mine. Showed up on the TV and started the signup procedure. Not sure if I even took the r/w/y cable out of the box before tossing it.

-Suntan
post #230 of 646
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Originally Posted by Suntan View Post

I just plugged the HDMI cable and the power cable in on mine. Showed up on the TV and started the signup procedure. Not sure if I even took the r/w/y cable out of the box before tossing it.

-Suntan

I got my replacement from amazon today and followed that.... it worked flawlessly. I guess mine was just a lemon!
post #231 of 646
I see from these posts that supported file types for local content are very restricted, and that the interface for viewing is poor. I will need a device (such as WD MP) that will support avi. files, but I'd also like a better set of streaming options than the WD Live Plus offers.
Is there any device that will do it all?
Thanks.
Frank
post #232 of 646
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Originally Posted by frank1492 View Post

I see from these posts that supported file types for local content are very restricted, and that the interface for viewing is poor. I will need a device (such as WD MP) that will support avi. files, but I'd also like a better set of streaming options than the WD Live Plus offers.
Is there any device that will do it all?
Thanks.
Frank

In short, no there isn't. A lot of people have been around here looking for 1 device for many years. They're still looking.

The Roku is $60. It isn't a wallet buster and it takes up very little space next to another device. May not be the solution that everyone wants, but it is one solution.

-Suntan
post #233 of 646
I keep reading that Roku has blocked Playon. Other people still say a private channel version is still working.

Can someone verify for me that if I purchase this, a Playon connection is available?

Thanks.
post #234 of 646
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Originally Posted by nclou View Post

I keep reading that Roku has blocked Playon. Other people still say a private channel version is still working.

Can someone verify for me that if I purchase this, a Playon connection is available?

Thanks.

Roku has taken the stance that they will not allow an official PlayOn channel in their Channel Store, and will generally remove any private channel codes as they are made aware of them. They have NOT to date, however, gone so far as to remove the PlayOn channel from boxes that already have them installed. I'm not sure if that's even possible.

From what I've read, one of the Roku PlayOn channel developers made the source code available somewhere on the internet. Since anyone can download the Roku SDK and utilize Roku's developer resources, people have since downloaded that source code and created their own private channel codes to share with others. As I said above, Roku has taken the stance that they will remove those private channel codes once they become aware of them. So, if you can find an active private channel code you should be able to install PlayOn on your Roku.

If you go to the PlayOn forum, I think you'll see a few people posting recently about using PlayOn on the Roku, so it's still apparently possible. You just need to find an active private channel code, or get your hands on the source code.
post #235 of 646
Thanks. That might be good enough, sounds like there is reasonable hope of getting it going.

Thanks.
post #236 of 646
Playon works fine on my Roku. And I'm not using a super secret private channel code. It's the private channel code listed on the roku channel site. Easy to find.
post #237 of 646
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Originally Posted by Suntan View Post

In short, no there isn't. A lot of people have been around here looking for 1 device for many years. They're still looking.

The Roku is $60. It isn't a wallet buster and it takes up very little space next to another device. May not be the solution that everyone wants, but it is one solution.

-Suntan

Thanks. I figured this from studying the Roku, WD, Sony and Netgear products.
What is your impression of the Netgear that is always on backorder?
post #238 of 646
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Originally Posted by frank1492 View Post

Thanks. I figured this from studying the Roku, WD, Sony and Netgear products.
What is your impression of the Netgear that is always on backorder?

I understand this wasn't directed at me but I have a Roku XDS and compared to the Netgear before buying.

Apples and oranges IMO. I wanted a box that primarily did two things. 1) Media player for my 1.5TB drive 2) Netflix capability

There isn't anything out there yet (which I find baffling) that does both of these really well. The WDTV has capability for both but falls short IMO. The Netgear was trumpeted to be the new media player king but I've been reading of a LOT of issues from those in the Netgear 550 forum. As of today the Netgear doesn't have Netflix but they keep saying "it's coming." The Roku is extremely limited as a media player but does Netflix as well, if not better, as anyone on the market. You also have to consider connectivity. If you're wired it doesn't matter but if you need to be wireless the XDS offers that as an option with dual N band wireless (works flawlessly in my setup) while the Netgear does not.

If you absolutely HAVE to have both of those things I mentioned above your best bet is either to wait it out a little longer to see if Netgear fixes their issues and finally adds Netflix or see if another player hits the market. I eventually went with the Roku since there wasn't any player that I thought could do both, wanted Netflix more than the ability to hook up my 1.5TB drive and it had wireless as an option. Sadly I don't think we'll ever see the Roku as a viable media player. I hope I'm wrong because that would make it one killer device.
post #239 of 646
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Originally Posted by wish View Post

Sadly I don't think we'll ever see the Roku as a viable media player. I hope I'm wrong because that would make it one killer device.

Yes, it would make for a killer device. I don't think they will ever be as good as the Dunes or some of the other STB's out there intended primarily for local streaming, but keep an eye out -- Roku has something up their sleeve.
post #240 of 646
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Originally Posted by frank1492 View Post

Thanks. I figured this from studying the Roku, WD, Sony and Netgear products.
What is your impression of the Netgear that is always on backorder?

I honestly have no idea as I've never really looked at it in depth. I have Sage extenders at each TV so I have no need for any other players for local content (didn't really need anything new for Netflix/hulu either) but just wanted something that worked better for Netflix on demand.

The Roku fits the bill very well, for $60, there really wasn't reason to look at anything else for me.

-Suntan
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