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post #1531 of 1591
2/7/13 at 2:13pm
So this might be a dumb question, but how do you go about creating a playable file that I can just stream from my PC downstairs through my PS3 using PS3mediaserver?

I've downloaded the torrent, and I see the following file structures:




I don't have a Blu-Ray burner nor do I really want to create a disc. Instead I'd like to create a single file that I can play from, OR I understand you can create an .ISO and mount the image using something like Daemon Tools Lite (I have both software) then, once I mount the image, it should act like a Blu-Ray with interactive menu's etc. right? So under that impression, I opened IMG Burn, and highlighted all the files from screen shot two above, and it created two files. I then used Daemon Tools, mounted the .ISO but then when trying to play it just keeps popping up Windows Media Player and saying it cannot play that file type. I have other media players, but it won't let me select "Open With" like it usually does.

Can I get some help here?? What am I doing wrong?
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post #1532 of 1591
2/7/13 at 3:33pm
In order to play it on your PC you need a program that will read BluRay movies, like PowerDVD. That won't help you play it on your PS3 though. You should be able to share those m2ts files and play them individually on the PS3 through PS3mediaserver, but if they need to transcode then it probably won't work well.

Coming from someone who went down the path of trying to make PS3MS do what I wanted in regards to running HD media, I'll tell you now in the long run with bluray iso's and HD conversions, it's not worth the pain. Pick up a very cheap WDTV and be gone with the hassle.
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post #1533 of 1591
2/7/13 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by TheSly View Post

In order to play it on your PC you need a program that will read BluRay movies, like PowerDVD. That won't help you play it on your PS3 though. You should be able to share those m2ts files and play them individually on the PS3 through PS3mediaserver, but if they need to transcode then it probably won't work well.

Coming from someone who went down the path of trying to make PS3MS do what I wanted in regards to running HD media, I'll tell you now in the long run with bluray iso's and HD conversions, it's not worth the pain. Pick up a very cheap WDTV and be gone with the hassle.

Sorry I didn't specify too that I have a HTPC. But its an Acer Revo Running Windows 7 and even though I upgraded the RAM to 512, it runs pretty slow. I figured out how to get the .ISO to output properly (been doing it all via Remote Desktop from work) and how to get it to open up and play in Windows Media Player Classic with the VLP (I think) codecs, so once I get home I'm going to try and see if I can play it using my HTPC.

Thanks for the input! I agree though, as much as I love my PS3 for Blu-Ray playback, gaming, streaming (Netflix & movies off my HDD downstairs) it is indeed limited.
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post #1534 of 1591
2/13/13 at 4:55am
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Originally Posted by 24tate View Post

Ok ,so I have downloaded the complete file as well as "imageburn" but I'm a little confused at this point about what to do next.
I have access to a blu-ray burner and my media is a Maxell BD-R dl 50 GB disc.
However the player in my home theater is a Panasonic DMP-BD-60 and I'm not sure if I need to apply the patch to get this disc to play.
I checked the compatibility list and it says that it should play both HDMV and AVCHD with this note in the known issues:

"Panasonic players using the AVCHD version may find that the HDTV Calibration video lacks chapter skips and a popup menu. The top menu button on the remote should still return to the main menu, and fast forward or rewind should be able to move through the HDTV Calibration video. At the current time we are not aware of an alternate AVCHD authoring method to solve this reported issue on Panasonic players. The HDMV version burned to BD-RE or BD-R with a Blu-ray burner should include the chapter skips and a popup menu on the same Panasonic players"

So , do I need the "patch" and if so where do I get it and how do I apply it?? confused.gif

I have a Panasonic BDT210. Plays it perfectly.
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post #1535 of 1591
3/5/13 at 6:18am
Did Scuba Steve alter any of these clips?

I just got some new equipment so I was going through some of the clips in the theater and was pretty blown away by how my system now sounded.
I especially noted extra umph in the scene from Iron Man where the Jericho Missile is launched.

Anyhow, later that day my family and I watched Iron Man on blu-ray and when that scene came on I was incredibly disappointed. I went back to the
demo and sure enough the demo is both louder and "umphier"! They are both Dolby True HD tracks and I assumed from the same Blu-Ray I
was playing.... Is this not the case? Was there more than one release of Iron Man on blu-ray??? or did Scuba Steve alter the clips before making
the compilation?
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post #1536 of 1591
3/5/13 at 6:53am
I doubt SS altered anything. that would defeat part of the purpose of the demo disc,

If I had to guess, I would say since the demo disc has the HD audio track, perhaps when you were watching your Blu-Ray the default audio track was simply Dolby or DTS (whichever format this movie contains), not the Lossless audio track
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post #1537 of 1591
3/5/13 at 7:10am
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Originally Posted by fcaico View Post

Did Scuba Steve alter any of these clips?

I just got some new equipment so I was going through some of the clips in the theater and was pretty blown away by how my system now sounded.
I especially noted extra umph in the scene from Iron Man where the Jericho Missile is launched.

Anyhow, later that day my family and I watched Iron Man on blu-ray and when that scene came on I was incredibly disappointed. I went back to the
demo and sure enough the demo is both louder and "umphier"! They are both Dolby True HD tracks and I assumed from the same Blu-Ray I
was playing.... Is this not the case? Was there more than one release of Iron Man on blu-ray??? or did Scuba Steve alter the clips before making
the compilation?

Nothing was altered. You can't alter a TrueHD or DTSHD stream (or even DD or DTS for that matter) streams without having the ability to decode them into their individual channels and then re-encode them back into a stream.

What you've experienced has been claimed before. There is no real answer other than some header information that was lost in the trimming process. A digitial flag if you will that tells the reciever the reference level. Most AVRs have a feature of compressing the dynamic range a little. So that the contrast between soft dialog scenes and big explosions aren't as great. If that detail is lost in the clip trimming process your AVR might not register it and then just keep things at dynamic levels. I've also been told that there are generic flags that tell a disc to play a -10db from reference, which could have also been lost.

Point is, nothing was lost, if anything it's the purest form of the stream. When you played the full movie back a setting somewhere told your AVR to play it lower.
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post #1538 of 1591
3/5/13 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

Nothing was altered. You can't alter a TrueHD or DTSHD stream (or even DD or DTS for that matter) streams without having the ability to decode them into their individual channels and then re-encode them back into a stream.

What you've experienced has been claimed before. There is no real answer other than some header information that was lost in the trimming process. A digitial flag if you will that tells the reciever the reference level. Most AVRs have a feature of compressing the dynamic range a little. So that the contrast between soft dialog scenes and big explosions aren't as great. If that detail is lost in the clip trimming process your AVR might not register it and then just keep things at dynamic levels. I've also been told that there are generic flags that tell a disc to play a -10db from reference, which could have also been lost.

Point is, nothing was lost, if anything it's the purest form of the stream. When you played the full movie back a setting somewhere told your AVR to play it lower.

Ah that would make sense! My old receiver used to show me a "dialnorm" message when it got that header info. My new AVR does not seem to. I didn't even consider that might be the case. I wonder if there is a way to tell the AVR to ignore that encoding?

Thanks for the reply BTW! I LOVE this demo disc. Its great fun and the extra calibration materials are also extremely helpful to have. I might just make a backup copy of this disc I like it so much.
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post #1539 of 1591
3/6/13 at 11:59am
I have tried following the link in post #8 but quickly get lost and can't figure out what the next step is. Is there a how-to or Cliff's notes somewhere for this disc? I have never done anything with torrents so this is completely foreign to me.
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post #1540 of 1591
3/11/13 at 5:05pm
Anyone still seeding it ?
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post #1541 of 1591
3/14/13 at 12:00am
Sorry, maybe too much of a noob but when I click on these links, it is not a direct torrent, it takes me to various sites, asking me to do this, and that.

Does anyone simply have a direct torrent link ? I don't want to install iloader, toolbars, premium services, etc etc.....

Looking forward to reviewing your great work.

Regards
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post #1542 of 1591
3/14/13 at 5:42am
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Originally Posted by cliffly View Post

Sorry, maybe too much of a noob but when I click on these links, it is not a direct torrent, it takes me to various sites, asking me to do this, and that.

Does anyone simply have a direct torrent link ? I don't want to install iloader, toolbars, premium services, etc etc.....

Looking forward to reviewing your great work.

Regards

Download uTorrent and then save the text file in post 1519 to your computer. Remove the .txt portion of the file name and then open it in uTorrent. Worked for me.
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post #1543 of 1591
3/31/13 at 7:21am
Could any let me know if this is possible, and if so, how would I go about doing it?

I would like to put these files on my external hard drive (Corsair Voyager Air), which is connected to my LAN, and then play it through my home cinema via WIFI through my blu ray player (Panny BDT310), is this going to be possible? Can I just copy em over and have a whack at it, or do I need to convert them somehow first?

Thanks in advance!

p.s. if no one knows, i will let you know if it works smile.gif
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post #1544 of 1591
3/31/13 at 8:34am
I don't know of any Blu-ray player that will play standalone m2ts files. MP4, MKV, AVI and DivX files yes, but not m2ts files.

If you also looking to be able to actually use the menus, then definitely no. You will have to burn the files onto a BD50 piece of media, as a real Blu-ray disc.

You could rewrap them into MKV files with the mkvmerge program, which I believe can take m2ts files as input. Then, as long as your player can play MKV files, you'd be able to do it that way. But, you'd still have no way to manage all those files, easily.
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post #1545 of 1591
3/31/13 at 9:58am
Ok thanks Mr Video for the update! I will just burn it to disc then, sounds like too much hassle to do it the other way around...
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post #1546 of 1591
3/31/13 at 10:24am
Ya, if there were only a few video files on the disc, it would be a simple thing. But there are a lot of demo files on the disc. Plus they are in three different categories.

Using the menu on the disc is the best, and easiest, way to view to content.
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post #1547 of 1591
4/1/13 at 11:13am
Ok, have some 50gb discs on the way to burn this !

Can anyone tell me if there is a list somewhere on this thread of what is actually ON the disc? I read the first few pages and saw a lot of suggestions, but no actual fixed list (Version 2)...

Cheers,

McStyvie

p.s. the download on this is fast for a torrent...getting about 250-500k/second...
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post #1548 of 1591
4/1/13 at 4:33pm
The complete, updated, list:

http://vidiot.com/images/HomeTheaterClipList.png
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post #1549 of 1591
4/3/13 at 2:58am
Holy CRAP, thanks for the informatio! I cannot wait to watch this great list of scenes!
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post #1550 of 1591
4/3/13 at 1:10pm
Thanks for posting that list. If I didn't happen to open that image I would have never known that there were all those missing clips (since I only went to 'scope').

Cheers,
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post #1551 of 1591
4/3/13 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

The complete, updated, list:

http://vidiot.com/images/HomeTheaterClipList.png

Thanks very much indeed! Is there any possibility of posting the spreadsheet (or other copy-pastable document) file if you have it? I'd like to enter the tags into JRiver Media Center. If you don't have this, I'll just do it manually.... and thanks again!
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post #1552 of 1591
4/4/13 at 11:54pm
Well I finally got around to burning this to BD last night.

I only briefly tested it on my laptop to make sure all menus are working, and clips work as intended.

I put it in my Panny BDT310 this morning (with no sound as it was 5 AM and the wife and kid were asleep) and I have to say, the top menu, pop up menu, everything, worked seamlessly!

I cannot say this loud enough:

GREAT FING JOB STEVE!!

I can't tell you how freaking stoked I am with this disc! I cannot imagine why anyone would NOT download this! This will save you so much money in the end. How many times did I almost buy pearl harbor just for the attack scene? U571 same thing, FotPH for the crash scene as well.

Cheers,

McStyvie
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post #1553 of 1591
4/5/13 at 11:10am
Is anyone seeding this? I'm trying to download it but getting 0 seeds and the "connecting to peers" message.....
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post #1554 of 1591
4/5/13 at 4:30pm
It's crazy that people are still trying to download this and still having trouble. I would think at this point with over 1000 posts that any info anyone would need would easily be found.
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post #1555 of 1591
4/5/13 at 9:07pm
The crazy thing is that after 1000 posts, no one is seeding it right now.
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Originally Posted by Mpray1983 View Post

It's crazy that people are still trying to download this and still having trouble. I would think at this point with over 1000 posts that any info anyone would need would easily be found.
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post #1556 of 1591
4/6/13 at 3:30am
Trying to seed just not sure how. I lost my original torrent that I downloaded so I tried starting one on my own How to I present it as a link?
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post #1557 of 1591
4/7/13 at 11:12am
I'm not exactly sure how to current a new torrent. I know just enough to be dangerous. I know there is a "create new torrent" on the uTorrent interface.

I just got a new Rythmik FV15HP and i want to put it through its paces....
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post #1558 of 1591
4/7/13 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

Thanks very much indeed! Is there any possibility of posting the spreadsheet (or other copy-pastable document) file if you have it?

Sorry, I do not have it. I modified the image file that Scuba had originally posted,
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post #1559 of 1591
4/8/13 at 8:16am
YMMV, but for me, this torrent didn't work. However, the torrent in Post 8 did work for me.




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Originally Posted by Red Devil 24 View Post

Home_Theater_Demonstration_Bluray_v2.0.torrent.txt 277k .txt file

Here it is, just remove the .txt at the end of the name.

If I'm not allowed to post this just say it and I will remove it
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post #1560 of 1591
4/8/13 at 2:10pm
Any chance anyone would be willing to help a luddite without a BD Burner/nice cpu? I would be happy to renumerate you for your time and trouble. PM me if so.

Any shot at someone creating a 3D disc?
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