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post #211 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

At my place of employment you'd get fired for a stunt like that. I'm also a IT/Information Security guy. :P At any rate be careful about that choice! :0

Scuba Steve, Looks great! If there is any room for additional suggestions a Band of Brothers scene might be worth filling up that last 2.5% of space if you've the energy. The battle in the snow covered forrest, I can't remember the particular episode name is just amazing for both surround and LFE. If it is something you are interested in and you don't have the disks -- I'll send you the Band of Brothers Box set and some paypal money to cover returning the set when you are through. http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/247/bandofbrothers.html

a scene like this through about the 1:42 mark is what I'm referring to. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9F1szmKOa8


Also a couple of notes from my enjoyment of disk one. A couple of the scenes run a bit long. The joker scene from Dark Night 2 at the hospital is too long, as is the Pearl Harbor scene, as are a couple of the King Kong scenes, and even the Master and Commander scene. All are good inclusions, but they are longer than the disc is purposed for IMO. Quick gotcha demo's of 3 or 4 minutes length are about my max preference, longer than that and I find myself skipping back to the menu to show my guests the next clip in most every case. I most frequent the THX trailer and the Ironman Jericho missle launch scene, both clips under 1 minute. I also have not seen the value of the Star Track clips. I've listened them at several people's houses now and unlike some of the other clips I've never heard them shine on any system (A couple systems had about $20,000+ in equipment). Contrast that clip to a clip like the Book of Eli town square gunfight sequence that might sound just okay on a decent setup, but shines like the morning star on a high end setup!!! (and that's when I can really understand why it is included) I like the Star Trek movie, but just don't really think they make particularly excellent demo clips from what I've heard and seen. At any rate I'm just one man's opinion -- I LOVE the first disk and can easily skip over the couple clips that don't do anything for me. No disk would be perfect for any one person's personal top picks --- we all understand that. So I'm glad to see that the new disk looks to be better in most every way! Like many other people have said, I put that disk in my player more than any of my other DVDs or BluRays. It is better than any single movie for showing off your gear to friends! I REALLY appreciate your effort and time!!! Thanks again and I'm really looking forward to picking up this disk too!

As you can see, there is a bit of a ying-yang between those that prefer longer clips and those that prefer shorter clips. Myself, I have no particular preference and simply enjoy a clip as long as it's good.

This disc made great improvements, or at least I think so, in the LFE category. Which I believe is, or will be, your favorite category based upon your love for subsonic bliss.
post #212 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

I loathe inkjets with all my heart. I heart laserjets, big time.

IMHO, when it comes to photography, laserjets just do not have the quality that inkjets do. Can they even handle a wide variety of photo grade papers? All of the laserjets that I've ever worked with are extremely expensive. Inkjet printers are cheap, it is the ink that kills ya I've paid for my R1800 many times over just from the ink alone.

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but once or twice every 5 years doesn't justify the shelf space, for me. I decided long ago (after replacing yet another $60 worth of dried up, barely-used ink cartridges...again) that I'd rather take my photo output to Costco or even a real photo center (when quality REALLY counts) than maintain my own inkjet printer at home. I just don't need their type of output often enough.

I can put my printing output up against places like Costco, Walmart, etc. and there would be times where you would pick mine over the others, while most of the time you would not be able to tell the difference. I recently looked through a bunch of pictures that were done at Walmart and they were off-color. A pro printing place would have gotten those printed correctly.

I can print a 13x19 a lot cheaper than any outside source.

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If you DO have a need for frequent inkjet output, Epson is definitely the way to go, from an output quality standpoint.

I do. I'm constantly printing photos and DVD case artwork. As a semi-pro that shoots the production photos for a local theatre group, the printer is a blessing.

And as always, YMMV.
post #213 of 1675
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

Send me a PM, I'd like to take you up on that as seeding was a pain last go around. I have a slow upload.

PM sent. We'll get things rolling a little faster than last round.
post #214 of 1675
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

IMHO, when it comes to photography, laserjets just do not have the quality that inkjets do. Can they even handle a wide variety of photo grade papers? All of the laserjets that I've ever worked with are extremely expensive. Inkjet printers are cheap, it is the ink that kills ya I've paid for my R1800 many times over just from the ink alone.

I can put my printing output up against places like Costco, Walmart, etc. and there would be times where you would pick mine over the others, while most of the time you would not be able to tell the difference. I recently looked through a bunch of pictures that were done at Walmart and they were off-color. A pro printing place would have gotten those printed correctly.

I can print a 13x19 a lot cheaper than any outside source.

I do. I'm constantly printing photos and DVD case artwork. As a semi-pro that shoots the production photos for a local theatre group, the printer is a blessing.

And as always, YMMV.

I agree 1000%! Nothing can touch inkjet quality short of a $$$$ dye sublimation printer. A few years ago, I did IT at a Hollywood ad agency, and color management was always a huge priority. Our one-sheets have to match the posters, after all, and what the client approves better match the final product! I know a number of very picky photographers who swear by their Epsons as well. I loved my Epson R-series... for photos... when I owned it.

I just don't need it anymore. Certainly not enough to justify the money and space... especially when it would be used so rarely that it was invariably clogged and dead between uses. And $60 or so for a set of new cartridges every time you want to print a couple of photos just doesn't justify it. And it's silly waste expensive 6-to-8-color photo ink on Google maps and business correspondence, when a color laser does it better for less.

Color lasers provide very ho-hum (at best) photos. But they're far better for pretty much everything else, so that's where I devote my precious space. And the ink never dries up. The price to buy one has become very reasonable, as well... I've seen crappy ones (Samsung) on sale for $100, and nice HP's for under $300. At $60 a pop for a full set of inkjet ink cartridges (on average), it doesn't take many cases of dried-out ink for the laser to start making sense... unless you need the particular color-specific output properties of an inkjet, or their ability to print on unusual objects/papers/surfaces.

In your shoes, I'd count myself lucky to have a good inkjet. In my shoes, though, you wouldn't want to bother, either.
post #215 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

In your shoes, I'd count myself lucky to have a good inkjet. In my shoes, though, you wouldn't want to bother, either.

I can certainly agree with all you said. For printing of documentation, I would prefer the high speed output of a laserjet printer, especially when it can do double-sided a lot easier (I'm speaking of work site large copiers ).

If I didn't do a lot of quality printing, I agree that the inkjet would be an issue. I managed to lose an inkjet because of clogging, that I could not get cleared up.

But, just printing regular output, non photo, keeps the ink flowing
post #216 of 1675
Can't wait for the Ver2. I seeded for a long time, but the upload and download speeds are pretty low where I live. It took me 10days the last time to get the torrent. Any plans of using usenet this time? Torrents are throttled quite a bit in my country.
post #217 of 1675
I have 35M up / 35M down FiOS connection, so I will seed for quite a bit after I get the torrent.
post #218 of 1675
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Originally Posted by venkatesh_m View Post
Can't wait for the Ver2. I seeded for a long time, but the upload and download speeds are pretty low where I live. It took me 10days the last time to get the torrent. Any plans of using usenet this time? Torrents are throttled quite a bit in my country.
A number of ISPs have dropped usenet feeds these days, so unless you pay extra for them as a separate service, many people no longer have access to usenet. Some still do, to be sure, but many don't.

I do not, sadly.
post #219 of 1675
ScubaSteve: That's so much for pulling this together yet again. Vol. 1 is an awesome demo disk and V2 will be even better, Got two questions....

First, the Pearl Harbor Clip is listed as 2.35 aspect ratio but it shows that it is not in the scope menu? This this an error or did you do this on purpose? There are others where this is the case as well.

Second, if I send you a USB flash device (and some $ to send it back), could you drop the image on it and send it back? I'll then seed away. I think this will help greatly for the first downloaders (to increase the number of seeders)? I think last time the initial download took 6 or 8 days.

Thank you again!
post #220 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

A number of ISPs have dropped usenet feeds these days, so unless you pay extra for them as a separate service, many people no longer have access to usenet. Some still do, to be sure, but many don't.

For many, this is still a great service to pay for. GigaNews is a great provider, and is worth every penny of the subscription rate I pay each month! They even offer encryption between you and them for free with most plans!
post #221 of 1675
Kind of new here but found this thread. Im a huge fan of demo disc and was thinking if this was possible to make your own disc, and sure enough someone did it here. Any link or info on where I can get vol 1? Or is it a file i have to d/l and burn to a Bray myself? I want to get my hands on your first experiment. Thanks
post #222 of 1675
Sorry for the ignorance but what are you guys talking about as far as Giganews and usenet?

I am not in the know so I am curious. Someday I also hope to add a proxy hider so I can finally watch my old shows from Hulu. Being American and living in USA for 3 years sucks for TV. Used to watching my Spike powerblock, VS and other channels for cheap.
post #223 of 1675
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Originally Posted by ki11abee View Post

Kind of new here but found this thread. Im a huge fan of demo disc and was thinking if this was possible to make your own disc, and sure enough someone did it here. Any link or info on where I can get vol 1? Or is it a file i have to d/l and burn to a Bray myself? I want to get my hands on your first experiment. Thanks


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1243227
post #224 of 1675
Thanks just made my paypal payment, cant wait. Looking forward to this Vol 2 now
post #225 of 1675
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Originally Posted by chrapladm View Post

Sorry for the ignorance but what are you guys talking about as far as Giganews and usenet?

A perfect application for Google and Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

In short, long before peer to peer file sharing existed, folks wanted a way to share files. Back in the days of BBS (Bulletin Board Systems), files were simply posted by users to a public space on the particular host machine of the BBS. You have to remember that storage space was at a premium, as HDDs were very expensive. Well that worked OK, but folks wanted files available on one BBS to be replicated to other BBS. The idea of USENET was born.

Today's usenet is a method of sharing files. Files are posted by a poster to a particular forum (segregated by interest), and users download the files from their ISP's feed using a newsreader client (a program...there are many different ones). The main issue is that when usenet was popular, ISPs maintained their own usenet feeds. In an attempt to manage bandwidth, they edited their feeds...they did not peer many of the binary groups where pirated content was hosted. These feeds can be large...

Giganews is a feed provider. You pay them to connect to their feed.

Good luck!
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post #227 of 1675
Subscribe.

Got my Vol.1 disc from Steve a couple of weeks ago, awesome!! And did I mention the super fast shipping that he did? I think it was your wife who shipped it base on the return address name.

I'll be looking forward to buy the Vol. 2 disc from you too my friend!
post #228 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

A number of ISPs have dropped usenet feeds these days, so unless you pay extra for them as a separate service, many people no longer have access to usenet. Some still do, to be sure, but many don't.

I do not, sadly.

Now you can:
http://dealnews.com/Newsgroup-Direct...6.html?iref=fp
post #229 of 1675
That link shows @$50, so like the poster said "unless you pay extra"
post #230 of 1675
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Now you can:
http://dealnews.com/Newsgroup-Direct...6.html?iref=fp

As shadowcaster read correctly, I specifically noted "unless you pay extra for them as a separate service".

I'm not interested in paying yet another $50 per year (let alone $60-300+ for the giganews feed that carboranadum recommended) for still more internet stuff, that I can get elsewhere with my existing account. I spend enough for internet access as it is! (~$45/mo for my cable modem is too much as it is, IMO)
post #231 of 1675
Re: hosting woes - have u considered posting to usenet groups (or torrent), and allowing people to download themselves? I can help with the former if you're interested.
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Oops, I see thSt has been discussed; fwiw, one can purchase a nonexpiring 10GB chunk from blocknews for $5-10, no need to go with a monthly sub.
post #233 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

As shadowcaster read correctly, I specifically noted "unless you pay extra for them as a separate service".

I'm not interested in paying yet another $50 per year (let alone $60-300+ for the giganews feed that carboranadum recommended) for still more internet stuff, that I can get elsewhere with my existing account. I spend enough for internet access as it is! (~$45/mo for my cable modem is too much as it is, IMO)

Keep in mind this $50 is for 1TB which would be about 20 of these demo disks, not just the one.
post #234 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Vaggeto View Post

Keep in mind this $50 is for 1TB which would be about 20 of these demo disks, not just the one.

It'll be quite a while before there are 20 demo discs to download.

Meanwhile, I'll stick to the torrents for my downloading needs, but anyone who needs it, by all means have at. For most people in this country, however, I suspect torrents are the simplest way to go, and no extra costs.

If uploading gigabytes of data is your thing, of course, you're welcome to repost your own download into the usenet for others. Nothing stopping anyone from doing so.

I'm not anti-usenet, people... I merely commented that it's not commonly used by the majority of people in this country.
post #235 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post
It'll be quite a while before there are 20 demo discs to download.
I'm pretty sure he meant this particular disc will be able to be downloaded about 20 until the bandwidth cap is reached.
post #236 of 1675
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Originally Posted by globalgreg View Post
I'm pretty sure he meant this particular disc will be able to be downloaded about 20 until the bandwidth cap is reached.
Yeah, I got that, too... and yet that makes no sense. Why would you download the same disc 20 times?

I'd rather spend my bandwidth allotment on torrents. Usenet used to be great, but there are better options now, for most of us.
post #237 of 1675
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Originally Posted by Vaggeto View Post
Keep in mind this $50 is for 1TB which would be about 20 of these demo disks, not just the one.
I don't think he meant 20 of the same disc; he was just pointing out that 1TB is A LOT of storage, enough for 20 DL BDs.

Would an Amazon cloud account be of any use for this?
post #238 of 1675
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

Send me a PM, I'd like to take you up on that as seeding was a pain last go around. I have a slow upload.

Scuba we can help with the seeding, You must be getting close to releasing?
post #239 of 1675
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Originally Posted by ajgoyt View Post

Scuba we can help with the seeding, You must be getting close to releasing?

Getting there, this disc with the additional features means a lot more work on the authoring end and I underestimated that a bit. Are you willing to send a portable/external HDD to me and do you have a good upload capacity? If so, send me a PM.

Anyone else that has good upload capacity that doesn't mind sending me an external HDD please send me a PM. I'm hoping to get this out soon!
post #240 of 1675
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

Getting there, this disc with the additional features means a lot more work on the authoring end ...!

I can just imagine what your Scenario Editor tab looks like

looking forward to it. Thank you again.
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