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post #391 of 542
1/4/13 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by Vincent Kompany View Post

wtf does the sub2 have to do with seaton or JTR?

In the end, it's all about competition and what's available to consumers.

"And then there are the mind-boggling specs. SUB 2 plumbs the depths to 7 Hz with bloodcurdling output: 112 dB at 10 Hz, 126 dB at 60 Hz (in room). Connected to a 240-volt line, SUB 2 delivers 4,500 watts of continuous RMS Sustained power and a Frankenstein 9,000 watts of Dynamic Peak power through its unique Power Factor Correction system. Talk about bringing your music and movies to life! SUB 1 is no slouch either, delivering 1,700 watts of continuous power and 3,400 watts at peak."
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post #392 of 542
1/4/13 at 8:54am
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

In the end, it's all about competition and what's available to consumers.
"And then there are the mind-boggling specs. SUB 2 plumbs the depths to 7 Hz with bloodcurdling output: 112 dB at 10 Hz, 126 dB at 60 Hz (in room). Connected to a 240-volt line, SUB 2 delivers 4,500 watts of continuous RMS Sustained power and a Frankenstein 9,000 watts of Dynamic Peak power through its unique Power Factor Correction system. Talk about bringing your music and movies to life! SUB 1 is no slouch either, delivering 1,700 watts of continuous power and 3,400 watts at peak."

How does that explain what the Sub2 has to do with JTR or Seaton in the original comment?
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post #393 of 542
1/4/13 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by bfreedma View Post

How does that explain what the Sub2 has to do with JTR or Seaton in the original comment?

As I posted, competition. One can like or not like obtuse references but rational conversation includes alternatives. Even unsolicited references.

Using a carrier based naval term; allow me to flag you in.

The original comment: "Im sorry to hurt the feelings of any Seaton or JTR fans out there, but I would not be surprised if it decimated a Sub2."

In the context of the comment, the poster, being a sensitive type, jocularly deferred to the feelings of Seaton and JTR fans when he posted that the powerful and deep reaching Sub2 is possibly being challenged with this new flagship offering by Funk. This offering will basically make Funk Audio........."The King of the Hill."

Hence the JTR, Seaton, Sub2 reference.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 1/4/13 at 9:11am
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post #394 of 542
1/4/13 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by BIGBEAR2004 View Post

Thanks for info! However, I am Canadian and I would prefer to stick with Canadian retailers to avoid getting hit hard with duties, taxes and heavy shipping cost. The XS30 does look amazing, but I think I will just go with one 18.0C and purchase another one next year.
I believe I will be paying $2,082 with the 1.5kW amp upgrade on the 18.0C delivered. I wonder how this sub performs with 'Bassotronics - Bass, I Love You' track.

BIGBEAR2004, depending where in Canada you live you could still end up paying taxes. And there's no duties on anything from PSA as its made in the USA so its duty free. Shipping is included in the price so if you live close to the border you could have it shipped to a holding warehouse just across the border and then go down and get it yourself and bring it across the border yourself. This is what I did. I too was looking at a 18.0C from Nathan with the idea of adding a second sub in a year, but ended up going with dual XS30s instead. Thats not to say Funk Audio doesn't have awesome stuff. I still might get a sub from them down the road, I just wanted to try out the XS30.
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post #395 of 542
1/4/13 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by Vincent Kompany View Post

wtf does the sub2 have to do with seaton or JTR?

there was a post asking how the 18.2 would stack up against seaton and jtr..... the sub2 is the proclaimed "best sub in the world" (quote from para. website) thereby automatically putting seaton, jtr, and any other contender somewhere far behind, ergo, not worthy of consideration. its an reference to status marketing shenanigans and how i dont like paradigm biggrin.gif
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post #396 of 542
1/4/13 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

As I posted, competition. One can like or not like obtuse references but rational conversation includes alternatives. Even unsolicited references.
Using a carrier based naval term; allow me to flag you in.
The original comment: "Im sorry to hurt the feelings of any Seaton or JTR fans out there, but I would not be surprised if it decimated a Sub2."
In the context of the comment, the poster, being a sensitive type, jocularly deferred to the feelings of Seaton and JTR fans when he posted that the powerful and deep reaching Sub2 is possibly being challenged with this new flagship offering by Funk. This offering will basically make Funk Audio........."The King of the Hill."
Hence the JTR, Seaton, Sub2 reference.
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tip of cap to you beeman smile.gif excellent reasoning.
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post #397 of 542
1/4/13 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by manwithnocape View Post

tip of cap to you beeman smile.gif excellent reasoning.

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post #398 of 542
1/4/13 at 10:05am
The CapS2 with two 30 x-max 18's will have more output than a single LMS 5400 which has slightly more than the Sub2 at 10hz. Therefore, the CapS2 will have more than the sub2, submersive, single LMS5400, etc... So from what I can tell, the CapS2 would be king on Ricci's test as low end is concerned and commercial offerings. Of course dual LMS 5400's would be king but that is DIY until Funk audio starts selling warps xcelerators as commercial products. Well, Funk's RExxx ported did OK!
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post #399 of 542
1/4/13 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

The CapS2 with two 30 x-max 18's will have more output than a single LMS 5400 which has slightly more than the Sub2 at 10hz. Therefore, the CapS2 will have more than the sub2, submersive, single LMS5400, etc... So from what I can tell, the CapS2 would be king on Ricci's test as low end is concerned and commercial offerings. Of course dual LMS 5400's would be king but that is DIY until Funk audio starts selling warps xcelerators as commercial products. Well, Funk's RExxx ported did OK!

Haha, Warp is currently the King. Is it good to be King, Warpdrv? Oh, I bet it is! Good thing he lives 2 miles from me and I get to pretend I'm king every so often. biggrin.gif

Doesn't someone else on this forum have more 5400U's than even Warpdrv? Maybe he's just a Prince after all.tongue.gif

P.S. There is more to a subwoofer than just output.
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post #400 of 542
1/4/13 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Haha, Warp is currently the King. Is it good to be King, Warpdrv? Oh, I bet it is! Good thing he lives 2 miles from me and I get to pretend I'm king every so often. biggrin.gif
Doesn't someone else on this forum have more 5400U's than even Warpdrv? Maybe he's just a Prince after all.tongue.gif
P.S. There is more to a subwoofer than just output.

totally agree. you can have all the output in the world, but if it sounds bad, it will just sound bad at really high dB's
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post #401 of 542
1/4/13 at 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

BIGBEAR2004, depending where in Canada you live you could still end up paying taxes. And there's no duties on anything from PSA as its made in the USA so its duty free. Shipping is included in the price so if you live close to the border you could have it shipped to a holding warehouse just across the border and then go down and get it yourself and bring it across the border yourself. This is what I did. I too was looking at a 18.0C from Nathan with the idea of adding a second sub in a year, but ended up going with dual XS30s instead. Thats not to say Funk Audio doesn't have awesome stuff. I still might get a sub from them down the road, I just wanted to try out the XS30.

Thanks for the info, and definitely I will keep the dual XS30s in mind. I will contact the company tomorrow to see what the total shipping cost would be, as I don't think I would be able to pickup the subs near the border.
I would prefer dual 18.0Cs as Funks subs look damn sexy, but I don't want to wait a year to purchase the second sub.
Edited by BIGBEAR2004 - 1/5/13 at 12:49am
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post #402 of 542
1/5/13 at 4:35am
Agreed but at this level sound quality is a given. I was just talking one commercial sub for the low end being 10 hz. Everyone's room will vary as max spl is concerned. Notnyt has 8 LMS 5400's but 4 in my room would be louder. People think I buy more just to have the most but I was just chasing low THD at 10hz and 8 LMS 5400's are not needed.
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post #403 of 542
1/5/13 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Agreed but at this level sound quality is a given. I was just talking one commercial sub for the low end being 10 hz. Everyone's room will vary as max spl is concerned. Notnyt has 8 LMS 5400's but 4 in my room would be louder. People think I buy more just to have the most but I was just chasing low THD at 10hz and 8 LMS 5400's are not needed.

i like this thinking. its knowing what to do to make the system work the way you want in the room you have, and the 5400 is a great sub.

just out of curiostiy, does anyone have any experience with soundproofing for subsonic frequencies (10hz @ 120dB)? i want more bass but i want to keep it inside my room.... and all you fellows seem to be quite smart in all things bass.
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post #404 of 542
1/5/13 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by manwithnocape View Post

just out of curiostiy, does anyone have any experience with soundproofing for subsonic frequencies (10hz @ 120dB)?

Isn't that like trying to suppress an earthquake?
Edited by BIGBEAR2004 - 1/5/13 at 5:00pm
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post #405 of 542
1/5/13 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by BIGBEAR2004 View Post

Isn't that like trying to suppress an earthquake?

hahaha!! i guess it is. im just trying to isolate as much bass as possible. smile.gif
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post #406 of 542
1/7/13 at 9:34pm
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Originally Posted by manwithnocape View Post


just out of curiostiy, does anyone have any experience with soundproofing for subsonic frequencies (10hz @ 120dB)? i want more bass but i want to keep it inside my room.... and all you fellows seem to be quite smart in all things bass.

I read about this once about a year ago. From what I remember it involved building a room inside a room so you can isolate it from the rest of the structure. It is a very expensive proposition but I guess there are ways to do it.
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post #407 of 542
1/8/13 at 4:58am
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Originally Posted by mjaudio View Post

I read about this once about a year ago. From what I remember it involved building a room inside a room so you can isolate it from the rest of the structure. It is a very expensive proposition but I guess there are ways to do it.

Aaaaaaah, the joys of having too much money. tongue.gif
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post #408 of 542
1/8/13 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by mjaudio View Post

I read about this once about a year ago. From what I remember it involved building a room inside a room so you can isolate it from the rest of the structure. It is a very expensive proposition but I guess there are ways to do it.

That or building the walls and ceiling out of 6"-12" thick concrete. It's one of the best insulators of low frequencies. Just ask MKTheater.
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post #409 of 542
1/14/13 at 11:09am
Here is some more info on our new 18.2, now on pre release pricing(contact us for prices). It is available with two power levels, 4800watts RMS and 9600watts RMS, Overall output, depending on power level and frequency, it will be comparable to, or exceed, a pair of 18.0's in a package only slightly larger than a single 18.0, at 21" wide(plus grills, optional) 24" deep(plus wiring connector), 22" high. It uses our latest Neodymium driver designed specifically for very small airspace and can handle tons of power due to a very specialized internal cooling system.

Here are a couple shots of the first ones in assembly/testing.



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post #410 of 542
1/14/13 at 11:23am
Wow. I am really liking the look and sound (specs) of the 18.2. Those drivers can really take a lot of power.

Any chance you will be sending on to Ricci for measuring/testing?
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post #411 of 542
1/14/13 at 11:29am
Wow that stain looks stunning.
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post #412 of 542
1/14/13 at 11:29am
This is still powered by an external amp or did you find a way to incorporate into the cabinet?

edit: I want one!!!!!
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post #413 of 542
1/14/13 at 11:48am
Very sharp looking.
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post #414 of 542
1/14/13 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by club968 View Post

This is still powered by an external amp or did you find a way to incorporate into the cabinet?

edit: I want one!!!!!

Yes the amplification has to be separate for this design, the 4800watt version will have a single amp, the 9600watt will have dual amps. Highly recommended to run these off a dedicated 220/240V circuit.

These are of course available with all the usual options, magnetic grills, solid wood corners, and custom finishes.
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post #415 of 542
1/14/13 at 10:19pm
The 18.2 looks like a killer sub, excellent work as always Nathan.
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post #416 of 542
1/16/13 at 10:20am
The 44lb, neodymium heart of the beast. There are two of these in this sub of course.
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post #417 of 542
1/16/13 at 5:47pm
Came in a couple of days ago, sounds as good as it looks

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post #418 of 542
1/16/13 at 6:31pm
Wow.....I really hate you right now wink.gif
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post #419 of 542
1/16/13 at 8:10pm
Banisher, that is beautiful. Can you post some pictures from a couple other angles? I would love to see the overall shape of it.
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post #420 of 542
1/16/13 at 10:38pm
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Originally Posted by Funky Waves View Post

The 44lb, neodymium heart of the beast. There are two of these in this sub of course.

Your really stepping up the sub game there Nathan, I like it!
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