*Official* Popcorn Hour PCH-C200 Owners Thread - Page 13

Not sure whats wrong but every time I try to access my external hard drive connected to the A-200 I get a white screen. I kinda sorta have it all setup like I want (still have to get it to recognize the new Karate Kid movie, not the 80's version, among other things) I installed YAMJ earlier this morning and it was working fine until now. Hard drive works fine when connected to my computer upstairs or my Oppo 93. Any suggestions?

Agreed. That was true back with the A-110 but not the 200 series boxes....

Sean

Sorry never used a external USB drive on mine....

Sean

Thanks Damian & Sean for the feedback.

As of now, I'm not quite there to test any of the available options, I'm still building my NAS.

Within the next two to three days I'll be in the position to test each protocol (SMB / NFS / HTTP).

While awaiting, I was reading and researching and came across that info so thought to ask.

Hey All,

For organizational purposes, I'm considering the following structure on the NAS. Would YAMJ and other jukeboxes work OK with this or is there a preferred way to organize that is "jukebox" friendly ?

The main path would be \\\\diskstation\\media


\\media

\\media\\movies
\\media\\movies\\dvd_iso
\\media\\movies\\dvd_all
\\media\\movies\\bluray_iso
\\media\\movies\\bluray_all


\\media\\animation
\\media\\animation\\dvd_iso
\\media\\animation\\dvd_all
\\media\\animation\\bluray_iso
\\media\\animation\\bluray_all

\\media\\foreign
\\media\\foreign\\dvd_iso
\\media\\foreign\\dvd_all
\\media\\foreign\\bluray_iso
\\media\\foreign\\bluray_all

\\media\\musicvideo
\\media\\musicvideo\\dvd_iso
\\media\\musicvideo\\dvd_all
\\media\\musicvideo\\bluray_iso
\\media\\musicvideo\\bluray_all

\\media\\documentary
\\media\\documentary\\dvd_iso
\\media\\documentary\\dvd_all
\\media\\documentary\\bluray_iso
\\media\\documentary\\bluray_all

\\media\ vshows

Just some feedback, based on my experience so far:

As an ongoing effort towards my installation, PCH can now steam files through the NAS. So far, I've been very impressed with both hardware components.

I did an interesting benchmark. Using a Windows PC with two drives connected to it, one through SATA, the other through USB3.0 - I initiated the file transfer of .MKV files from both drives onto the NAS share.

While the copying was going on from both drives onto the NAS, using PCH, I tested streaming one of the MKV files, which is a bluray rip. There was absolutely no stuttering or audio dropouts or anything of the sort. The movie played flawlessly, the 10 mins that I watched.

Question:
I wanted to play around with NMJ - The built in jukebox - just wondering, where does it store the movie graphics and the downloaded content ? I would like to delete that and use YAMJ or Oversight. My internal drive is only a 4Gb kingston memory stick. My guess it that it is stored somewhere on that.

Thanks,

That's good to know. I've always had my NMJ database stored on the NAS, but one of the things that bugs me about NMJ is that every 250 or so titles that I scroll through I have to wait (about 5-10 secs) while NMJ loads the new poster art, etc. I wonder if I moved the NMJ db to my internal thumb drive (I've got an 8GB inside) if that behavior would stop? Does everyone get this delay as you scroll up and down the movie wall? Or is it just because I have NMJ on my NAS?

So you can tell it where to store this info? Where are the options for that?

Mine has always stored it on the share where the content was. So right now I have several shares that my c200 looks at, between my WHS, unRAID, Intel NAs and Dlink NAS. So each share has a folder named NMJ database that stores the info for that specific share.

I didn't know i could store the NMJ content on the local C200 hard drive. Or am I mis-understanding your reply?

I dont think thats possible. you end up with N NMJ Jukeboxes for N different shares. There is no unfication like with YAMJ nor is there any ability to make it put its jukebox data other than on the share the content is on but I could be missing something.

NMJ is ok for small single share movie libs in my opionion. After that it falls down....

It doesn't like 800 movies libraries and it never actually completed scanning my 42K songs.

same here, I see the delay (with db on the NAS). I was thinking the same, about being able to move the db on the 8gb memory stick.

I've read that with YAMJ, there isn't any lag as it reads static pages. I will installing that next to see its performance.

Eversion and YAMJ Static are both faster and provide richer meta data IMO than NMJ. NMJ is the newbie on the scene. YAMJ was around and stable and feature rich for years before NMJ existed. This is Syabas we are talking about here. It only took em 18 months to get the basic features adverstised to work. Give NMJ a year and it might be 1/2 as good as YAMJ was 3 years ago.

I recommend if just starting out with YAMJ then try this....

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/sh....php?tid=42467

I also love eversion and use it everyday.

Easiest way to get YAMJ up and running is with an all in one package like this....

http://www.dentedboxes.com/doku.php/...stall_packages

you should try a static skin and eversion but I think most will end up preferring eversion.

The eversion all in one is very easy to setup. Let us know if you need help crafting a library.xml or understanding how the network paths are formed in that file (biggest source of problems for folks).

Sean

What is the difference between installing YAMJ using http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebo...pByStepInstall vs http://www.dentedboxes.com/doku.php/...stall_packages Don't understand the difference between YAMJ and JAMJ+Eversion.

Nice. I just installed YAMJ but will now try Eversion when I get home. My 5 year old (setting this up for him) doesn't understand whats taking so long (one of the JAMJ files somehow got corrupted on my external hard drive and had to start from scratch) and is asking me how bout if I just tell you which movie I want to see? Now not sure if Im now doing this for him and his friends or for me!

Was looking at the Eversion Requirements.

Popcorn Hour A200, A210 or C200 Player
POPBox 3D Player
AsiaBox
YAMJ Version: R2251 or newer (2.4 beta version or 2.4 stable)
Highly recommended Version: R2533 (2.5 beta Version)
720 or 1080 HD resolution configured in your hardware player.

Why would one need a POPBox 3D player and an AsiaBox?

I have YAMJ working great for shares from a WHS. For now, YAMJ lives on my Shuttle which is a win7 machine. Can I easily add Everson as a skin and revert if I don't care for it? Eventually I will move everything to the WHS.

Philip

and the all in one packages include a 3rd party tool called media info, sometimes a setup gui, and usually some tweaks customized for the skin they are running...

Its easiest to try and AEON and Eversion to understand the differences.

Eversion has progressed so much I dont use AEON at all any more. at least for the last month

Sean

Another benefit of local NFO data is that if something gets corrupted on my end I can just blow away the whole YAMJ jukebox and re-run YAMJ and in 15 minutes I am done. it takes hours when it has to scrape on the internet but when all the art work and metadata is cached locally then its very very fast.

I'm still loving ember revisited. Whats the equivalent program you are using on the dune side dbone?

Sean

Is anyone using zappiti on their pch? Is it available as a complete application or just as a skin? Looking for impressions when comparing to the dune version of zappiti.

I started using Ember recently. Very move. I have it set up to generate nfo files, but it seems my various XBMC players all have minds of their own and I don't get this uniform collection. Do I disabled scraping on XBMC? I have everything in one movie per folder, so the nfo should be in that folder? How do I force XBMC to use only it? I tried to add an XBMC player to Ember in one of the modules, but I ended up with duplicate entries on the XBMC player.

Ideally all XBMC players would have the same scraped data and the order would be identical ( order added). I keep watching the same movies since I feel they haven't been watched as they keep changing when they were added to the Library. Very confused about all of this. No wonder I keep going back to Oversight

Philip

I use aeon, how does it compare? I am looking for a change and interested to hear about other skins/applications.

I get the Zappiti <-> YAMJ relationship but is there an equivalent editor like Ember or YANFOE?

is there support for some standard for metadata XML?

I disagree on recommending stock YAMJ for novices. The all in ones get the novice user scraping and better GUI with less frustration quicker. For more technical users understanding how to get there is 1/2 the fun so thats another story. They both have their place.

Sean

Sean