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post #2101 of 2241
Question!! I have a TV Live Hub and have 4 external drives connected to it via a USB hub and it works amazingly well. All files on all the drives appear under the video listing alphabetically, I don't have to toggle back and forth between drives. My issue, and I'm sorry if I'm repeating something already posted here is that I wanted to expand this system to another TV and I purchased Live TV Player (not the hub) and I wanted it to display the videos in the same manner as it displayed on the TV Live Hub, but it doesn't work that way. Long story short, I'm going to return the TV Live Player and buy another hub, however I'm wondering, if I were to connect my external drives to my in-home network, can I get the files on all of the drives to appear as if they were attached to the hub like my original setup?

I tried connecting the drives to a WD My Net 900 router and it doesn't recognize the USB hub, only one of the drives connected, so I was going to purchase a USB Networked hub to attach to the router to see if that would work.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.
post #2102 of 2241
Hello! I've almost had it with my PS3 and PS3 Media Server setup. It was great until last night when MKV conversion on the fly started stuttering out of no where. I think it was because I updated Java on my PC, but that was a few weeks ago. Thus, I'm currently exploring other hardware solutions. I have some questions about the WD TV Live Hub.

1. Has this been released for a while now and is there a new model coming soon? Should I wait?

2. Can one transfer files from a PC through the network to a regular external USB hard drive connected to the Hub as a network drive?

3. If yes, can I set uTorrent to download directly to the external USB HD or the Hub directly, then play the media from the Hub or from external HD to Hub and watch it on my TV.

4. Would it make sense to buy the cheaper 500gb version, and just buy a 2 TB HD and save some money?

5. I read that WD TV Live Hub supports MKV, does this mean it plays it natively without conversion. Is playback smooth?

6. Could someone please explain the Syncing feature to me?

Thank you!
post #2103 of 2241
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Originally Posted by FutureMcFly View Post

Hello! I've almost had it with my PS3 and PS3 Media Server setup. It was great until last night when MKV conversion on the fly started stuttering out of no where. I think it was because I updated Java on my PC, but that was a few weeks ago. Thus, I'm currently exploring other hardware solutions. I have some questions about the WD TV Live Hub.

1. Has this been released for a while now and is there a new model coming soon? Should I wait?

2. Can one transfer files from a PC through the network to a regular external USB hard drive connected to the Hub as a network drive?

3. If yes, can I set uTorrent to download directly to the external USB HD or the Hub directly, then play the media from the Hub or from external HD to Hub and watch it on my TV.

4. Would it make sense to buy the cheaper 500gb version, and just buy a 2 TB HD and save some money?

5. I read that WD TV Live Hub supports MKV, does this mean it plays it natively without conversion. Is playback smooth?

6. Could someone please explain the Syncing feature to me?

Thank you!

1) No rumors about anything new, I'd buy now

2) Yes

3) Yes

4) IMHO, the less peripherals the better. I'd go with the 2TB hub. You can set uTorrent to send right to the hub if you map it as a network drive.

5) Yes

6) I have not gotten the sync feature to work so I am probably doing it wrong. Maybe someone else can field this one.
post #2104 of 2241
Hi,

I have some questions about TV shows. I have Glee TV series stored on my hub using different folders. And, WD TV Live Hub categories all 3 seasons into comedy list. And, now, I have to scroll one page after another just to find other comedy movies.

Is it supposed to be like that? Any other workaround just to group TV shows into TV series category?

Thanks all.
post #2105 of 2241
Short of creating your own genre for TV shows, such as "TV Comedy", then no.
post #2106 of 2241
I have a question about sorting. I have two TV series, The Big Bang Theory, and Babylon 5. Both are in their own folder and the files are named correctly (for example babylon5.s01e12.avi). The database correctly recognizes each show, but then renames it. But now they don't show up in order. Episode one is first in the list, followed by episode 10, 11, 12... then 19, 2, 20, 21....
Both shows do the same thing.

Obviously the problem is that the database numbers it episode 1 but the sorter does not recognized that it is 01. Of course an easy fix, if I could do it, would be to rename it episode 01, but it won't let you change that. I'm wondering what other people do to make things show up in order for TV shows.
post #2107 of 2241
^^^

Well, I guess I answered my own question but I'll post it here for anyone else who might run across it. I need to manually edit the XML files of the offending episodes and change the 1 to 01, 2 to 02, etc... Then I have to clear out the medial library on WDTV and have it repopulate. It seems that there are some programs that will automate this for you and I recommend checking out the forums/community at WDTVLIVE.com which is where I found the answer.

I'll give it a try when I get home tonight and amend this post if it does not work.
post #2108 of 2241
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Originally Posted by DeadEd View Post

1) No rumors about anything new, I'd buy now

2) Yes

3) Yes

4) IMHO, the less peripherals the better. I'd go with the 2TB hub. You can set uTorrent to send right to the hub if you map it as a network drive.

5) Yes

6) I have not gotten the sync feature to work so I am probably doing it wrong. Maybe someone else can field this one.

Thanks for answering my questions!

Here's another one for you WD TV Live Hub owners. Having owned this, is it the streamlined, hassle free experience you were hoping for? I really, really don't want to hack around to make it work perfectly. I've done enough of that with my PS3. I just want to set it up as a network drive, download media from my torrent client to it, and watch.

If you could do it over would you still get this unit, or something else, like a Mede8ter or Dune?
post #2109 of 2241
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Originally Posted by FutureMcFly View Post

Thanks for answering my questions!

Here's another one for you WD TV Live Hub owners. Having owned this, is it the streamlined, hassle free experience you were hoping for? I really, really don't want to hack around to make it work perfectly. I've done enough of that with my PS3. I just want to set it up as a network drive, download media from my torrent client to it, and watch.

If you could do it over would you still get this unit, or something else, like a Mede8ter or Dune?
Besides the jukebox features, this is pretty hassle free for 99% of what I need. It even handles SBS and OU 3D content, but not frame-packed (MVC) 3D. I've been reading up on some Theme hacking to get a better jukebox experience, but most of what I want to do would require a complete reorganization of my collection, which I'm not yet ready to do.

With all that said, I'm still probably going to get a Mede8er or Dune anyway for my main watching area because of a better jukebox and better 3D options and move my Live Hub to the bedroom.
post #2110 of 2241
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Originally Posted by FutureMcFly View Post

Here's another one for you WD TV Live Hub owners. Having owned this, is it the streamlined, hassle free experience you were hoping for? I really, really don't want to hack around to make it work perfectly. I've done enough of that with my PS3. I just want to set it up as a network drive, download media from my torrent client to it, and watch.

If you could do it over would you still get this unit, or something else, like a Mede8ter or Dune?

It's pretty hassle free. A few things I have found to make it MORE hassle free would be to make sure you assign it a static IP (easy to do, just go into the router setup and got DHCP reservations and click it). I've had better luck leaving it on all the time rather than turning it on and off, I don't know about others. Very easy to access it as a mapped network drive. It's nice that you CAN go in and fiddle with stuff. For example, it recognizes my Terminator movies but I was able to go into the XML file and edit the name changing it from The Terminator to Terminator so it would be listed next to Terminator 2,3,4. Same with the James Bond films; I just edited each XML to add James Bond 02 - first (and obviously changed the 02 to whatever the number was). You don't have to do that stuff but you can. I hear that Dune is better but it's much more expensive, this does what I like, and I do use Netflix and Pandora a lot. So far I'm very happy.
post #2111 of 2241
I have had the WD LiveHub for a year or so now and find it terrific. My only problem is that I can view everything ( video, pictures and music ) through the Live Hub on my familyroom tv, but when I try to do the same thing on my basement system, running through my Marantz 5006, the only one of the three I can play is music. Any ideas as to why I can't see the video?
post #2112 of 2241
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Originally Posted by Meddy View Post

I have had the WD LiveHub for a year or so now and find it terrific. My only problem is that I can view everything ( video, pictures and music ) through the Live Hub on my familyroom tv, but when I try to do the same thing on my basement system, running through my Marantz 5006, the only one of the three I can play is music. Any ideas as to why I can't see the video?

How are you feeding the basement from the Marantz?

Bill
post #2113 of 2241
Bill Not a very technical type person but everything starts out from a laptop and then through the home network to the live hub and to the Marantz
post #2114 of 2241
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Originally Posted by Meddy View Post

Bill Not a very technical type person but everything starts out from a laptop and then through the home network to the live hub and to the Marantz

So two completely separate setups?

Bill
post #2115 of 2241
Yes... When I select the network input on the Marantz and then select the WD Live Hub folder, all 3 subolders come up on the screen but the only one that seems to have any content is the music file, which plays perfectly. If I remember correctly ( at work now) there are titles showing in the video folder but nothing plays.
post #2116 of 2241
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Originally Posted by Meddy View Post

Yes... When I select the network input on the Marantz and then select the WD Live Hub folder, all 3 subolders come up on the screen but the only one that seems to have any content is the music file, which plays perfectly. If I remember correctly ( at work now) there are titles showing in the video folder but nothing plays.

The Marantz won't be able to stream anything but audio through it's network connection.

Bill
post #2117 of 2241
Thanks Bill for clearing that up. Probably does say that in the manual, which of course is disk ,which also means oldies like me seldom check it out:)
post #2118 of 2241
Like some folks I've been using PS3 Media server but for whatever reason it stopped playing MKV files properly so I'm looking at an alternative. I'm just in the process of building a house and I've got wired gigabit Ethernet going to all the rooms. If I buy this Western Digital device how do the TVs display the streaming content? Do I need to purchase some sort of client device to hook up to the TV? Is it possible for me to watch one piece of streaming content in one room while the wife watches something else in another? I have a PS3 that can see DNLA devices but I'd prefer to have an independent device if that's possible.
post #2119 of 2241
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Originally Posted by MeelaPo View Post

Like some folks I've been using PS3 Media server but for whatever reason it stopped playing MKV files properly so I'm looking at an alternative. I'm just in the process of building a house and I've got wired gigabit Ethernet going to all the rooms. If I buy this Western Digital device how do the TVs display the streaming content? Do I need to purchase some sort of client device to hook up to the TV? Is it possible for me to watch one piece of streaming content in one room while the wife watches something else in another? I have a PS3 that can see DNLA devices but I'd prefer to have an independent device if that's possible.

Most people use the WD boxes as the client. So you would need one of these boxes for each TV. However if you intend to store data on one or several boxes that can be done as well or d you have a file server or network drive you intend to play from?

One of the nice things about the WD boxes is that they play tons of formats....The only mainstream media files they do not play well are BD ISO files, which is why most people rip their movies to MKV or AVI.
post #2120 of 2241
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

Most people use the WD boxes as the client. So you would need one of these boxes for each TV. However if you intend to store data on one or several boxes that can be done as well or d you have a file server or network drive you intend to play from?

One of the nice things about the WD boxes is that they play tons of formats....The only mainstream media files they do not play well are BD ISO files, which is why most people rip their movies to MKV or AVI.

The WD TV Live Hub also does not have native support for .wtv files - television programs recorded by Windows Media Center. If I want to take some shows with me on the road in the hub, I have to convert them to .dvr-ms files first before the hub will recognize that file.
Edited by myoda - 5/31/13 at 1:43pm
post #2121 of 2241
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

Most people use the WD boxes as the client. So you would need one of these boxes for each TV. However if you intend to store data on one or several boxes that can be done as well or d you have a file server or network drive you intend to play from?

One of the nice things about the WD boxes is that they play tons of formats....The only mainstream media files they do not play well are BD ISO files, which is why most people rip their movies to MKV or AVI.

I do not have a file server device. I was thinking, like you alluded to, of having the WD Live Hub act as a server and the little WD Live boxes act as the client machine unless there is a cheaper method.
post #2122 of 2241
Here is a bit of a hardware technical question, based on my recent experience.
My WD Live Hub is set up as such; The internal 1tb drive is used for 'Catalog' movies (pre 2000), 3D Movies and some Concert Films. I also have a 3TB WD external attached at all times for 'Newer' content and TV Shows. The WDLH is connected to my home network and all shares are visible and work/share as expected. When I need to transfer items on to either of the WD drives, I had been transferring them over WiFi (N) from my laptop and achieving a max speed of around 11mb/s (but an average of more like 5-6mb/s, 11 is rare) for a single item at once - The more I loaded into the transfer queue the less I got per, obviously.

So, I thought I had a brilliant Idea - I'd connect my new 1.5tb Portable USB 3.0 Toshiba external drive directly to the front port on the hub, and once it shared, I would simple drag & drop items over (using my Win8 laptop as a network browser) to one of the other hub drives - Thinking that if I eliminated the Network it would be bus-to-bus.

Well. For a single item I managed 2.89mb/s MAX throughput! It has been suggested to me that the internal memory read/write buffer maybe be the cause of this, ot that the USB bus(es) are all sharing the same memory and that's why USB to USB transfers are slower, as opposed to Ethernet to USB transfers - Even over WiFi! (and yes, I have tried connecting to my router via Cat6 to the laptop and -shockingly - the transfers were actually SLOWER than over wifi!

Here's my gear;
Dell XPS 15z laptop on N wifi to
Asus RT-N66U Dark Knight Double 450Mbps N Router
WD 3tb USB 2.0 External (on hub)
Toshiba Canvio 1.5tb USB 3.0 External (portable)

I have 2 NAS like USB ports (network sharable) on the router - I am going to try and attach the portable to one and see if that uses the Network-to-usb bus but eliminates the WiFi and hard wired Ethernet connection bottle necks...

In the mean time, any other ideas or experiences that any of you have had in speeding up transfers is greatly appreciated!
Thanks
post #2123 of 2241
When you copy from the USB to the Internal (or Vice Versa) via your laptop, it still must use the network. That's just the way network file systems are. Same with any network file system, not just WD.

The only way to do a fully local copy is to use the COPY function in the Hub's UI.
post #2124 of 2241
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

When you copy from the USB to the Internal (or Vice Versa) via your laptop, it still must use the network. That's just the way network file systems are. Same with any network file system, not just WD.

The only way to do a fully local copy is to use the COPY function in the Hub's UI.

Hmmm, thanks. I'd only ever seen "Sync" - I never looked into the copy function. Can you confirm faster throughput in this manner?
post #2125 of 2241
I've never timed it...
post #2126 of 2241
Just thought I'd drop a few words in here about the 2GB WDTV Live which I returned but I was really impressed with the picture quality of the the device, it was in fact better looking to my eyes than the OPPO 103 BluRay player. Had it not have issues playing some of my MKV files and the fact that it does not pass thru the audio properly I would have kept it. The OPPO 103 was so soft that I had to bump the sharpness up to 4 to achieve the detail that the WDTV was resolving. I wish I could have kept it.
post #2127 of 2241
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Originally Posted by imws View Post

Had it not have issues playing some of my MKV files and the fact that it does not pass thru the audio properly I would have kept it.
Hmmm. Something special about your MKV files? They've always been rock-solid for me.

The only passthrough "issue" I've seen is with DTS HD, in which is only passes DTS core. Is that what you're referring to?
post #2128 of 2241
I've actually started to have some issues with my 1080p MKV files lately. Seems like since the latest firmware upgrade, my movies will start to stutter at random points. When I watched Die Hard two weeks ago, it started stuttering about 15 minutes in. Stopped and restarted playback and then it made it about an hour before stuttering again. Just last night was watching Fast & Furious, stuttering started about 45 minutes in. Stopped and restarted and then made it another 30 minutes before stuttering again. This seems to only happen on the MKVs I ripped as 1080p as I've also watched a couple older things I had ripped at 720p without stuttering.

I don't think it's a ripping issue as I've watched that 1080 version of Fast & Furious last year when I was on 3.08.xx and I had no stuttering. Only reason I upgraded firmwares was because the WDTV kept giving me invalid username and password issues when it would lose connection to my NAS.

Is anyone else seeing stuttering? Should I go back to 3.09.xx?
post #2129 of 2241
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

I've actually started to have some issues with my 1080p MKV files lately. Seems like since the latest firmware upgrade, my movies will start to stutter at random points. When I watched Die Hard two weeks ago, it started stuttering about 15 minutes in. Stopped and restarted playback and then it made it about an hour before stuttering again. Just last night was watching Fast & Furious, stuttering started about 45 minutes in. Stopped and restarted and then made it another 30 minutes before stuttering again. This seems to only happen on the MKVs I ripped as 1080p as I've also watched a couple older things I had ripped at 720p without stuttering.

I don't think it's a ripping issue as I've watched that 1080 version of Fast & Furious last year when I was on 3.08.xx and I had no stuttering. Only reason I upgraded firmwares was because the WDTV kept giving me invalid username and password issues when it would lose connection to my NAS.

Is anyone else seeing stuttering? Should I go back to 3.09.xx?

I would roll back to a fw version that works....
post #2130 of 2241
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

I would roll back to a fw version that works....
I'd rather deal with the stuttering issues than not being able to connect to my NAS. Does 3.09.xx fix the NAS issues?
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