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post #181 of 574
11/14/10 at 4:56am
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Actually, they look quite good. They are bolts with button covers on them. This way they are completely rattle free.

Thanks for the info! I'm been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to mount my frames. I found these here: http://www.pro-dec.com With free shipping, I can order a few different colors to see how they look.
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post #182 of 574
11/14/10 at 5:00am
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Thanks for the info! I'm been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to mount my frames. I found these here: http://www.pro-dec.com With free shipping, I can order a few different colors to see how they look.

That is exactly what I got. I went with ones that did not stick out much.
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post #183 of 574
11/15/10 at 3:14am
Other than the screen is anything going over the insulation on the front wall?
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post #184 of 574
11/15/10 at 10:46am
Looking good so far. Japan is one of my "must go before I die" places.
One quick question, what camera/lens are you using for the photos?

Good luck with the rest of the project.
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post #185 of 574
11/15/10 at 11:01am
Great pic updates.
I may have missed it, but what is going on the floor?
Carpets?
Did you figure out seating?
What are you doing for calibration?

Mike
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post #186 of 574
11/15/10 at 5:29pm
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Other than the screen is anything going over the insulation on the front wall?

Yes, black GOM.
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post #187 of 574
11/15/10 at 5:30pm
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Looking good so far. Japan is one of my "must go before I die" places.
One quick question, what camera/lens are you using for the photos?

Good luck with the rest of the project.

Thanks,

I am using a Canon 1Ds MKIII.
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post #188 of 574
11/15/10 at 5:47pm
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Great pic updates.
I may have missed it, but what is going on the floor?
Carpets?
Did you figure out seating?
What are you doing for calibration?

Mike

I am carpeting the floor and I should have pics today of the carpet installed.

Calibration, I was going to go with Audyssey for the 7 speakers and I was thinking of a separate sub EQ. Then make the finer adjustments using REW.

I fired up the two front left and right speakers without any calibration or a sub (they are set to small and crossed at 80 hz, so not much bass below 80hz) and I already feel like I have surround sound. I have no idea what this means in the whole scheme of things, but I had some weird pressure in my ears when listening to some music at about 55db's. Anyway, it may not mean anything as they are not calibrated as of yet.
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post #189 of 574
11/15/10 at 8:00pm
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I am carpeting the floor and I should have pics today of the carpet installed.

Calibration, I was going to go with Audyssey for the 7 speakers and I was thinking of a separate sub EQ. Then make the finer adjustments using REW.

I fired up the two front left and right speakers without any calibration or a sub (they are set to small and crossed at 80 hz, so not much bass below 80hz) and I already feel like I have surround sound. I have no idea what this means in the whole scheme of things, but I had some weird pressure in my ears when listening to some music at about 55db's. Anyway, it may not mean anything as they are not calibrated as of yet.

If you're feeling a weird pressure, and I presume that also means uncomfortable, in your ears at 55dB I think that might amount to a bit of a problem. 55dB is in the vicinity of typical household background noise and average conversation and I couldn't begin to imagine how you'll be feeling when you operate the speakers at their intended capacity (well perhaps I can, ever been diving with plugged sinuses and very seriously contemplated staying down and drowning rather than surfacing and risk what feels like a head explosion?) probably will be something like that. When first entering the room and/or having a conversation what's your initial knee-jerk impression of the sound, does it appear really messed up and weird and perhaps a little disorientating or does it sound natural and clear, that might point to where problem likely lies. Regardless, it sounds like it's time to perform some tests, do you have the gear for this?

How's the carpet? Eagerly anticipating those pics.
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post #190 of 574
11/15/10 at 8:28pm
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If you're feeling a weird pressure, and I presume that also means uncomfortable, in your ears at 55dB I think that might amount to a bit of a problem. 55dB is in the vicinity of typical household background noise and average conversation and I couldn't begin to imagine how you'll be feeling when you operate the speakers at their intended capacity (well perhaps I can, ever been diving with plugged sinuses and very seriously contemplated staying down and drowning rather than surfacing and risk what feels like a head explosion?) probably will be something like that. When first entering the room and/or having a conversation what's your initial knee-jerk impression of the sound, does it appear really messed up and weird and perhaps a little disorientating or does it sound natural and clear, that might point to where problem likely lies. Regardless, it sounds like it's time to perform some tests, do you have the gear for this?

How's the carpet? Eagerly anticipating those pics.

Yes, it is a little uncomfortable, it sounds like I have sound coming from everywhere around me. I will have to check and see if I have Audyssey turned off, b/c if I don't it will still have the room settings from my old living room setup which will obviously cause problems.

The room sounds great when talking to people it, nothing seems too dead.

I do have REW, so once I get room setup I will be performing tests.

BTW, I should have some carpet pics soon.
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post #191 of 574
11/15/10 at 8:38pm
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Yes, it is a little uncomfortable, it sounds like I have sound coming from everywhere around me. I will have to check and see if I have Audyssey turned off, b/c if I don't it will still have the room settings from my old living room setup which will obviously cause problems.

The room sounds great when talking to people it, nothing seems too dead.

I do have REW, so once I get room setup I will be performing tests.

BTW, I should have some carpet pics soon.

It's probably just one of those "stupid" things then, when you finally figure it out the first response out of your mouth is #@&% I'm stupid.
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post #192 of 574
11/15/10 at 8:45pm
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It's probably just one of those "stupid" things then, when you finally figure it out the first response out of your mouth is #@&% I'm stupid.

I really do hope it is something stupid like that. I suppose I should not be making any comments until it is setup correctly. I am just hoping that it is not the bass below 125hz not being absorbed due to the bunker style room. If it does end up being this, I also am hoping there is something I can do. There I am again , getting ahead of myself... I am such a worry wart.
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post #193 of 574
11/15/10 at 8:52pm
I wouldn't worry about it, there's a fix for everything and fiberglass is cheap. Have you listened to the speakers full range? what about opening the doors, does that change anything?
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post #194 of 574
11/15/10 at 9:50pm
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I wouldn't worry about it, there's a fix for everything and fiberglass is cheap. Have you listened to the speakers full range? what about opening the doors, does that change anything?

I don't think there is enough fiber glass that will absorb those lows. Concrete rooms pose a whole new problem I guess?

I have not tried any of those. Will give it a go once I get home.
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post #195 of 574
11/16/10 at 4:31am
Very impressive Theatre Dave, your A lucky man & cant believe how quickly
its all moving along..

Yes Your right in that Concrete rooms Do tend to require more Acoustic treatment per say, But in your case nothing that cant be fine tuned which I would suspect is the case here & A normal requirement for most HT's ..

Besides Your Got Dennis Erskine to help sort/fine tune your room ..
Without Dennis Being on Site Its a matter of taking A few inroom measurments and having Dennis Analize the Data allowing him to offer further advise if need be on remaining Accoustic issues..

Without The Expertise of Dennis on site The hardest part to get right IMO would be the EQing, Besides Audyssey..

Cheers..
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post #196 of 574
11/17/10 at 4:13am
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Very impressive Theatre Dave, your A lucky man & cant believe how quickly
its all moving along..

Yes Your right in that Concrete rooms Do tend to require more Acoustic treatment per say, But in your case nothing that cant be fine tuned which I would suspect is the case here & A normal requirement for most HT's ..

Besides Your Got Dennis Erskine to help sort/fine tune your room ..
Without Dennis Being on Site Its a matter of taking A few inroom measurments and having Dennis Analize the Data allowing him to offer further advise if need be on remaining Accoustic issues..

Without The Expertise of Dennis on site The hardest part to get right IMO would be the EQing, Besides Audyssey..

Cheers..

Thanks, I am sure it is able to fine tuned. But is does look like I may have to talk to Dennis about how as I am totally useless.
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post #197 of 574
11/17/10 at 4:20am
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Getting closer,

The carpet all done,



With the lights above the stage turned off.



The lights above the stage and down the sides. The down lights are white , But I will be painting them flat black.



The carpeted stage , with my temporary amp rack....



A pic of the back of the room,



The front wall, those are handles so I can take the access door down to the sealed baffle wall once the subs are installed.



Close up of the catalysts



Without the grill.



A pic of the XLR wall socket for the two submersives.

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post #198 of 574
11/17/10 at 7:08am
I would imagine this is not common in Japan. how are the folks building this reacting to it?

This seems (at least to an outsider) to be VERY different than traditional japanese (read: small) residences and living spaces.
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post #199 of 574
11/17/10 at 9:42am
Looking pretty awsome...
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post #200 of 574
11/17/10 at 10:32am
I wish the whole world could be red and black...I never get tired of seeing red and black together...put in a theater...and im in heaven. Looking amazing. Those Catalysts are frighteningly large!

Its funny, You posses three things that im very intrested in....A black and red HT, a HUGE aquarium, and you live in Japan (not that i really want to live there, but im interested in their culture and language)....if you were into guitars and cycling too id just be freaked out...
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post #201 of 574
11/17/10 at 10:41am
The newly laid Red Carpet looks Awesome Dave & Suits Your Home Theatre theme to A Tee..

Cheers..
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post #202 of 574
11/17/10 at 11:43am
Coming together beautifully JD. Will be an awesome setup and experience when all is said and done!
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post #203 of 574
11/17/10 at 3:57pm
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I would imagine this is not common in Japan. how are the folks building this reacting to it?

This seems (at least to an outsider) to be VERY different than traditional japanese (read: small) residences and living spaces.

You would be right considering the average size of a Japanese house. The wife dose not care and really has no interest in the room apart from the fact that she does not want to hear subs in any part of the house or outside to cause trouble with any neighbours. Other than that it is all good.
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The newly laid Red Carpet looks Awesome Dave & Suits Your Home Theatre theme to A Tee..

Cheers..

Thanks, I always wanted red carpet for some reason. The theater sort of was built around that I guess.

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Coming together beautifully JD. Will be an awesome setup and experience when all is said and done!

Thanks, I really hope so.
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post #204 of 574
11/17/10 at 4:18pm
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I wish the whole world could be red and black...I never get tired of seeing red and black together...put in a theater...and im in heaven. Looking amazing. Those Catalysts are frighteningly large!

Its funny, You posses three things that im very intrested in....A black and red HT, a HUGE aquarium, and you live in Japan (not that i really want to live there, but im interested in their culture and language)....if you were into guitars and cycling too id just be freaked out...

Thanks for the kind words. I still have to get those Aquarium pics for you and I will I promise.

I can't say that I have huge interest in guitars, but I have always like the fender stratocaster for it looks.

But yes I am into cycling. It just so happens I have just paid for a Bianchi Infinito Athena C2C with DT RRC CARBON wheels and I also have a nice little Bianchi hybrid that is great fun to ride.

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post #205 of 574
11/17/10 at 6:19pm
What a difference a carpet makes!! Looking really great.

I'm really interested in how you tackle integrating Audyssey and manual equalization since there is no easy way to exclude Audyssey from re-EQing your bass. I have a similar problem and I've been experimenting with first manually EQing the bass as flat as possible, so that Audyssey has minimal effect, then creating a new set of bass filters on top that add a slight "house curve". I wonder how Dennis guides you through this process.
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post #206 of 574
11/17/10 at 6:26pm
Theater looks great, the colors match you perfectly.
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post #207 of 574
11/17/10 at 10:29pm
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What a difference a carpet makes!! Looking really great.

I'm really interested in how you tackle integrating Audyssey and manual equalization since there is no easy way to exclude Audyssey from re-EQing your bass. I have a similar problem and I've been experimenting with first manually EQing the bass as flat as possible, so that Audyssey has minimal effect, then creating a new set of bass filters on top that add a slight "house curve". I wonder how Dennis guides you through this process.

Absolutely! (on the carpet comment)

I will let you know how I setup the subs in the end.
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Theater looks great, the colors match you perfectly.

Thanks, I was a bit concerned on having too much red, but it quite good in person (well I think it does)
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post #208 of 574
11/18/10 at 5:01am
Another thumbs up here on how your theater is looking!
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post #209 of 574
11/18/10 at 5:30am
Theater room is looking awesome JapanDave. Long time no talk, I see you decided to take your theater to a new level. Awesome work bro. I'm out in the USA on business, but I miss my theater/home in Japan man. Should be back in Japan next week. Keep up the hard work bro.
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post #210 of 574
11/18/10 at 7:08am
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Thanks for the kind words. I still have to get those Aquarium pics for you and I will I promise.

I can't say that I have huge interest in guitars, but I have always like the fender stratocaster for it looks.

But yes I am into cycling. It just so happens I have just paid for a Bianchi Infinito Athena C2C with DT RRC CARBON wheels and I also have a nice little Bianchi hybrid that is great fun to ride.

oh man....carbon bianchi frame with campy component group...yes plz. That bike makes my lemond look like kid stuff!



This is right after i got it, since then its at least gotten new handlebar tape and some real water bottle cages. I bought it used and got a pretty good deal. Hopefully someday ill have the cash for a different wheelset and a new saddle.
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