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post #1441 of 5169
1/29/11 at 6:24pm
Dammit. I don't have the stupid adapter to get optical out from my Xbox 360. Apparently they stopped including them. They don't even list it on Xbox.com anymore. Why couldn't they do an HDMI passthrough on the MixAmp?

Anyway, I plan to order a MixAmp, PC360, and the adapter to get optical out of my 360 (assuming I can find the official one) in a couple days. Just waiting for my credit card billing cycle to change. If anyone knew of a deal on the PC360, feel free to PM. Also, if anyone knows a place that stocks the official audio adapter for the 360, let me know.
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post #1442 of 5169
1/29/11 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by El Bombero Loco View Post

Does the AX720 amp have "enough to drive" the akg k702 ?

Yeah I'd say so. Make sure you give it at least more than 10% on the main box volume to eliminate possible inbalance of sound in your headphones.

Lately, I prefer Silent Cinema to Dolby Headphone, though, so I haven't hooked up my AX720 box in awhile. With the K702's the DH sounded 'airy' compared to the nice rich Silent Cinema sound.
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post #1443 of 5169
1/29/11 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by ATB View Post

The input into your receiver IS analog and NOT digital. The headphone output is always analog (headphones are analog devices after all.)

not correct.

Please re-ead and not GUESS.

The only way is to sacrifice and try.

SINCE DD from the TV a\\k\\a the CABLE BOX, regsters aws DD and the throughpute of all DOES NOT.

Where do you think the brake down is (trethorical)

Anyone interested in understanding all of tihs new other, please ignore the freely available 3 cent knowe it all.
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post #1444 of 5169
1/29/11 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

his work is so-so... SWZ here on avs does better work.



pads look just like my stock pads

I confused the ad700 pads for the light colored pads of the K701.

Too many damn headphones. XD
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post #1445 of 5169
1/29/11 at 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by lg55 View Post

not correct.

Please re-ead and not GUESS.

The only way is to sacrifice and try.

SINCE DD from the TV a\\k\\a the CABLE BOX, regsters aws DD and the throughpute of all DOES NOT.

Where do you think the brake down is (trethorical)

Anyone interested in understanding all of tihs new other, please ignore the freely available 3 cent knowe it all.

I can't even understand what was said in this post but I'm quite sure you don't understand what's going on with the signal coming from the AX720 box.

The AX720 box basically functions as a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) so you are giving the box a digital signal via the optical cable and it is doing post processing/decoding and converting it to an analog signal that can be played through your headphones...which only receive analog signals. It is not a source for another digital signal unless it had an optical cable pass through...which it doesn't.

You are taking the analog signal that was converted from the dolby digital input from the box and then inputting it into your receiver via an analog cable so of course the receiver is going to see ANALOG when you set it on DIRECT mode. Now some receivers can take an analog input and then process the signal again to simulate a dolby digital signal...so maybe that's where the confusion lies.
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post #1446 of 5169
1/29/11 at 11:09pm
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Originally Posted by SAVholic View Post

Are we talking about the 720 amp or the inline controller itself? I haven't notice anything, I use the amp volume all the way up and use the inline controller to adjust the volume. Tried to use 10 or 15 clicks on the box volume button but it didn't make any difference, I did notice that the inline volume control is very sensitive as I get from very low to very "loud" a bit to easy.

Ah. This is for the inline controller. I didn't notice the amp and inline were separate. So this could be just my inline unit.
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post #1447 of 5169
1/29/11 at 11:30pm
XBOX optical out-> optical in reciever-> receiver headphone out reads: DD stereo

XBOX optical out->optical in AX720-> AX720 out via HEADPHONE to reciever via DVD IN-> headphone out -> receiver headpone out reads: ANALOG

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Originally Posted by Hypermobius View Post

I can't even understand what was said in this post but I'm quite sure you don't understand what's going on with the signal coming from the AX720 box.

The AX720 box basically functions as a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) so you are giving the box a digital signal via the optical cable and it is doing post processing/decoding and converting it to an analog signal that can be played through your headphones...which only receive analog signals. It is not a source for another digital signal unless it had an optical cable pass through...which it doesn't.

You are taking the analog signal that was converted from the dolby digital input from the box and then inputting it into your receiver via an analog cable so of course the receiver is going to see ANALOG when you set it on DIRECT mode. Now some receivers can take an analog input and then process the signal again to simulate a dolby digital signal...so maybe that's where the confusion lies.
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post #1448 of 5169
1/30/11 at 1:03am
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Originally Posted by lg55 View Post

XBOX optical out-> optical in reciever-> receiver headphone out reads: DD stereo

XBOX optical out->optical in AX720-> AX720 out via HEADPHONE to reciever via DVD IN-> headphone out -> receiver headpone out reads: ANALOG

Yes that is what is supposed to be happening. What's the problem with that? In the first case you are sending binary data via the OPTICAL CABLE directly to the receiver which it recognizes as a dolby digital signal ....decodes it and sends it to the headphones. Receiver displays dolby digital

In the second case you have the AX720 read the binary data via the OPTICAL CABLE...it is processed/decoded and sent to the headphone out jack as an analog signal (not binary data..but rather electronic pulses)...via ANALOG cables to the receiver....the receiver sees an analog signal coming in and displays ANALOG on the front panel.
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post #1449 of 5169
1/30/11 at 2:48am
theres nothing different going on.

you're sending a digital signal to a receiver (be it the ax720, or your avr) which is processing and converting the signal to analog for your headphones.


i'm not sure what the 3 of you are arguing, or if your points are even different
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post #1450 of 5169
1/30/11 at 4:29am
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

his work is so-so... SWZ here on avs does better work.



pads look just like my stock pads

Do you have a link to his work?

I don't know much about cabling or anything like that, so I can't be one to judge, but I had never seen anyone do what Tommy did before. As far as I know he was the first one to do that particular style mod.
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post #1451 of 5169
1/30/11 at 8:16am
Hello, could you please refer me to where I could get the Sennheiser PC 360 Headset for a good price? Thank you very much!

Also, if you would recommend which mixamp to get, would it be the wired or wireless astro mixamp? Thanks again
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post #1452 of 5169
1/30/11 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by chase26 View Post

Also, if you would recommend which mixamp to get, would it be the wired or wireless astro mixamp? Thanks again

I think both are good. use the one that better suits your needs :P Many ppl here love 5.8 wireless :P
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post #1453 of 5169
1/30/11 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by El Bombero Loco View Post

Does the AX720 amp have "enough to drive" the akg k702 ?

It depends on who you ask. I have the K702 and the Ax720. I tried it directly from the Ax720 before I put my amp in the chain and I think it had enough juice to power it, even with chat mixed in. You'll get some hiss, and you could tell it was pushing the Ax720's ability though. I don't know how to explain it, but after the amp was in the chain it sounded much cleaner and less "tinny".
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post #1454 of 5169
1/30/11 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by SteggyB View Post

Do you have a link to his work?

I don't know much about cabling or anything like that, so I can't be one to judge, but I had never seen anyone do what Tommy did before. As far as I know he was the first one to do that particular style mod.

I think the other headphone thread has some pictures of stuff he's done. He's got a Facebook page which also might have some pics. I'll try to find the link to that.

I have a mic-mod cable that he did for the K702. I definitely know nothing about how he did it or what he used but it works really well. It's a really clean setup and much better that the hot glue the mic to the side solution.

I know he used to do complete rewires and paint jobs for the AD700 too. I'm not sure if he's still interested in doing those though.
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post #1455 of 5169
1/30/11 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

It depends on who you ask. I have the K702 and the Ax720. I tried it directly from the Ax720 before I put my amp in the chain and I think it had enough juice to power it, even with chat mixed in. You'll get some hiss, and you could tell it was pushing the Ax720's ability though. I don't know how to explain it, but after the amp was in the chain it sounded much cleaner and less "tinny".

So would the astro mixamp be better to power it or am I not going to be able to avoid an amp ?
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post #1456 of 5169
1/30/11 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by SteggyB View Post

Do you have a link to his work?

I don't know much about cabling or anything like that, so I can't be one to judge, but I had never seen anyone do what Tommy did before. As far as I know he was the first one to do that particular style mod.

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/...d-lots-of-pics
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post #1457 of 5169
1/30/11 at 2:36pm
Formulanerd, could you please PM me your source to buy the PC 360? Thanks a lot
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post #1458 of 5169
1/30/11 at 3:06pm
This shows some other stuff too... just pics, but you get the idea...
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post #1459 of 5169
1/30/11 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by El Bombero Loco View Post

So would the astro mixamp be better to power it or am I not going to be able to avoid an amp ?

why do you think a lot of us are selling off the k702? if you're wanting to use voice chat, you'll need an amp... even if you're not mixing chat, the k702 sound is going to be thin.
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post #1460 of 5169
1/30/11 at 3:23pm
For the price, the Fiio A5 gives a nice little boost to help the K702 along. Though, I'd at least go with a Little Dot I+ if you can swing it.
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post #1461 of 5169
1/30/11 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by El Bombero Loco View Post

So would the astro mixamp be better to power it or am I not going to be able to avoid an amp ?

From what I've seen posted here, the Mixamp is actually worse. The Ax720 will power them, but as I (and others) have said, the sound is going to be weak. If you're set on the K702's, I'd get them and try them out with just the Ax720 box. If it's not to your liking you can go from there, but you'll probably want to plan on some sort of amp.
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post #1462 of 5169
1/30/11 at 5:08pm
Between all the add ons I need for the 702 I think I'll just get the PC 360 and be done with it...I already have the 720's so they should work great with that amp...
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post #1463 of 5169
1/30/11 at 6:07pm
Yes, but IMHO... the 702 are also good music headphones too. 2 for 1 special! Throw in the fact that you can use them for CosPlay (you can pretend to be Princess Leia).
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post #1464 of 5169
1/30/11 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

Yes, but IMHO... the 702 are also good music headphones too. 2 for 1 special! Throw in the fact that you can use them for CosPlay (you can pretend to be Princess Leia).

Lol
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post #1465 of 5169
1/30/11 at 7:58pm
I'm not ready to sell my K702s yet. For me, the Mixamp provides enough juice to power them even with voice chat in effect. Having said that, I (like many on this board) just bought a set of the PC360s. I probably won't keep both the PC360s and the K702s, but I haven't decided what to do yet.

Just my 3 cents...
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post #1466 of 5169
1/30/11 at 10:13pm
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/...d-lots-of-pics

I've seen that thread before, didn't know this was the same guy. But I don't see anything there that would make Tommybwoy's mod appear "so-so" in comparison. Tommy has done that same kind of body painting work, as well as the mic mod, and like I said, I believe he was the first to start doing it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ThompsonRyan

That should be most of his work. I think there might be the hd580 with 600 grills and 650 drivers + mic mod in there as well.
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post #1467 of 5169
1/31/11 at 2:06am
i'm fully aware of most of tommybwoy's projects and see them as far inferior... time, care, materials, craftsmanship... just my opinion, nothing else.
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post #1468 of 5169
1/31/11 at 7:05am
Sorry, this is a really noobie question, but if I were getting PC 360, would it be better with a high quality sound card or do i buy a mixamp?

I'm confused a little on whether you need a mixamp if you have a good sound card already or if the mixamp ADDS to the good sound card or replaces it altogether?

Thank you to anyone willing to clear this up for me, it's greatly appreciated!!
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post #1469 of 5169
1/31/11 at 7:50am
Hey Nerd, can you PM me the deal on the PC 360s? I may be able to pick these up soon and having the info at hand would help. Thanks in advance! Just out of curiosity, will Senn be releasing the PC 370s this year? (don't know how often they update the series) It seems like the 360s were a big improvement over the 350s, and if the 370s are coming I may just wait.

Why do I feel like 20 of us were standing on a bridge and 18 have jumped off? I don't want to be the last guy to jump!!! I really do like the AX720 headset, but I know there is a lot of room for improvement.
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post #1470 of 5169
1/31/11 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by chase26 View Post
Sorry, this is a really noobie question, but if I were getting PC 360, would it be better with a high quality sound card or do i buy a mixamp?

I'm confused a little on whether you need a mixamp if you have a good sound card already or if the mixamp ADDS to the good sound card or replaces it altogether?

Thank you to anyone willing to clear this up for me, it's greatly appreciated!!
What it is you want to do? The PC360 is just a stereo headset. If you connect to a "normal" sound card you'll get L&R stereo. If the sound card can output Dolby Headphone natively then you will get 5.1 effects in the stereo. Beyond this then you will need something like a mixamp to provide the Dolby Headphone translation. In this case you need a sound card with an optical out for the mixamp input.
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