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post #4801 of 5170
Can anyone recommend a good headset w/o a mic? I'm looking for a new headset to watch movies/game but have no need for a mic. Wireless would be ideal but would need a wired solution so that I can use them for travel too. I was looking at the Sennheiser RS 180 and 160s for wireless and the 558s for wired.
post #4802 of 5170
Headset = mic. Headphones = No mic.

Sounds like you are looking for headphones. If thats the case, Senn558 (wired) are great place to start. They have great overall sound, do pretty much everything well & wont kill your wallet. At a $176.. the 558's would work awesome for games/movies (better bass that the more expensive 598s) and travel pretty stylishly with their business like black suit design. (You wont look crazy walking thru the airport or office with them on).

While its not the greatest solution, you could also add a cheap $4 Zalman clip-on mic and use the combo with the Mixamp for a decent voicechat gaming experience with surround sound. Trust me all the cables/wires involved is going to suck.. but its a great option to have.
Edited by Daekwan - 9/1/12 at 11:22pm
post #4803 of 5170
The 558s looked like the ones but I just saw that they're an open design which means if I try to use them in bed or on the plane others will hear. Any recommendations for something just like the 558s but with a closed design?
Edited by Stryker412 - 9/2/12 at 6:19am
post #4804 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

The 558s looked like the ones but I just saw that they're an open design which means if I try to use them in bed or on the plane others will hear. Any recommendations for something just like the 558s but with a closed design?

I really loved my ultrasound HFI-780. Closed design, amazing sound, very comfortable.
post #4805 of 5170
How are the Pro 750s? A little more than I want to spend but if they're awesome and easily portable I might consider.

Just wondering has anyone tested the Sennheiser RS line?
post #4806 of 5170
Trittons on sale over at woot -


http://sellout.woot.com/plus/game-headset-match#
post #4807 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

How are the Pro 750s? A little more than I want to spend but if they're awesome and easily portable I might consider.
Just wondering has anyone tested the Sennheiser RS line?

I dunno, but there was nothing about the HFI-780s that I thought could have been improved on. Unless someone made them wireless and gave them a mic.
post #4808 of 5170
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

I dunno, but there was nothing about the HFI-780s that I thought could have been improved on. Unless someone made them wireless and gave them a mic.
On these, how are you using them? Driven from a MixAmp (or receiver) using Dolby Headphone? Or just stereo? How does the S-Logic Natural Surround Sound these come with play into this especially for gaming w/ Dolby Digital sources such as the 360?
post #4809 of 5170
I used them through my receiver for the virtual surround, a mixamp would work just as well. The s-logic natural surround is marketing nonsense, the drivers are slightly tilted, whoop-dee-doo....you still need surround processing. But these are true blue audiophile headphones - the sound quality difference is night and day vs these gaming headsets - crystal clear, flat response, deep, but balanced bass, comfortable to wear for hours, great build quality. There's no compromises on that front, but you have to bring your own mic and surround processing. 

I haven't personally heard the sennheiser PC360, but I have heard many sennheiser headphones and I'd blindly trust the brand. I'm sure they're excellent as well.
post #4810 of 5170
BD, check your PMs when you get a chance.
post #4811 of 5170
I just sent off my Astro A50's last week, for a refund. I pre-ordered them July 1, didn't get them until July 26 and they had issues from day one. Only my wireless controllers worked with the mic, not wired controllers, which wasn't a deal breaker for me, but the audio drops were constant and that was the biggest concern. Then if I tried to switch the headsets to use it for my ps3. That wasn't a problem with my xbox but for the ps3, that was a hit or miss chance for it to work. The dolby digital button didn't light up every time. I would have to wait for 10-15 minutes for it to respond. The first couple updates did nothing. The last update seemed to fix a few more issues but it still isn't great. Since the v1.1, my voice sounded really robotic. Also the tone that turns on the headset has no tone anymore. I only hear it now if it's turning off. I still enjoy Astro but they need to step up their game. Their customer service if atrocious. If they can fix their headsets, with no issues, I'll buy them again. I'm actually waiting for the September 10th batch. Hopefully they can remedy these this time. If they can't fix it this time, then I'm done with Astro. Either way they're tarnishing their reputation. They have too many bad threads out, many people who are just frustrated right now, just like me. For $300, these headsets need to work the first...period.

Speaking of the Warheads, I'm really enjoying them now. At first I was having a bad experience with the voice chat. All I heard was static if someone talked above the normal speaking. I tried turning it down my using the headset, but it didn't help. I thought maybe I had a defective headset and I bought another one to compare. It had the same issue. I was just about to return both of them. Then I tried turning down the voice volume on the xbox preference setting to 4, and now I have no problems with it. I never really even thought about it before because it never was an issue with my old Tritton AXPro's, my old Astros or even my Turtle Beach PX5's . The voice volume has always been set at 10. I guess the Warhead voice chat is already amplified. Thankfully, I'm please with them as if right now. I still need some more extended time but as of now, they see to be good.
Edited by digiTaL wiZ - 9/4/12 at 2:17am
post #4812 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

You are pretty much foreshadowing my conclusion. I'm going to hold my final opinion of all the pro's & con's of every headset, until they are all working as they were designed to. After all, thats the only fair way to judge them side by side. That will come after the v1.1 update to the A50s & a replacement pair of Warheads. But I will give these pieces of advice with extreme confidence:
1) For anyone seeking 100% WIRELESS surround sound w/gamechat, you will not have any regrets spending $182 for the complete solution XP400
http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Surround-Headset-Xbox-360-6304300/dp/B006W41W4Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345744418&sr=8-1&keywords=xp400
2) For anyone seeking accurate & GREAT surround sound w/gamechat, but doesnt mind a few cables, you will not have any regrets spending $187 A40/Mixamp for the combined wired solution.
http://www.amazon.com/ASTRO-Gaming-Audio-System-xbox-360/dp/B004N7HSGU/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1345745074&sr=1-1&keywords=a40
3) For anyone seeking accurate & the BEST surround sound w/gamechat, but doesnt mind a few cables, you will not have any regrets spending $204 PC360 & $97 Mixamp for the combined wired solution.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-360-Headset-Gaming/dp/B003DA4D2U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345744623&sr=8-1&keywords=pc360
http://www.amazon.com/ASTRO-Gaming-USB-MixAmp-xbox-360/dp/B004L6C6BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345744645&sr=8-1&keywords=mixamp

I took your advise and went with the XP400. I like it a lot. Thanks
post #4813 of 5170
I've ordered the Warhead in Amazon (spain) for 215€. Good price. Arrival expected on Friday cool.gif
I will post my impressions next week. My only reference is a sold Astro A30. I hate so many cables... I just hope to keep or improve the sound quality with the Trittons. I will clear up any doubts soon rolleyes.gif
post #4814 of 5170
I think you'll be excited.
post #4815 of 5170
Hey fellas,

Sorry I don't have time to read the whole thread because I need to buy today. Can anyone recommend me a good solid wireless headset to use with my 360? I play mainly SC5 and some shooters and racing games. Price is not an issue but don't really want to spend more then $150.

Thanks!
post #4816 of 5170
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Originally Posted by digiTaL wiZ View Post

I just sent off my Astro A50's last week, for a refund. I pre-ordered them July 1, didn't get them until July 26 and they had issues from day one. Only my wireless controllers worked with the mic, not wired controllers, which wasn't a deal breaker for me, but the audio drops were constant and that was the biggest concern. Then if I tried to switch the headsets to use it for my ps3. That wasn't a problem with my xbox but for the ps3, that was a hit or miss chance for it to work. The dolby digital button didn't light up every time. I would have to wait for 10-15 minutes for it to respond. The first couple updates did nothing. The last update seemed to fix a few more issues but it still isn't great. Since the v1.1, my voice sounded really robotic. Also the tone that turns on the headset has no tone anymore. I only hear it now if it's turning off. I still enjoy Astro but they need to step up their game. Their customer service if atrocious. If they can fix their headsets, with no issues, I'll buy them again. I'm actually waiting for the September 10th batch. Hopefully they can remedy these this time. If they can't fix it this time, then I'm done with Astro. Either way they're tarnishing their reputation. They have too many bad threads out, many people who are just frustrated right now, just like me. For $300, these headsets need to work the first...period.

Speaking of the Warheads, I'm really enjoying them now. At first I was having a bad experience with the voice chat. All I heard was static if someone talked above the normal speaking. I tried turning it down my using the headset, but it didn't help. I thought maybe I had a defective headset and I bought another one to compare. It had the same issue. I was just about to return both of them. Then I tried turning down the voice volume on the xbox preference setting to 4, and now I have no problems with it. I never really even thought about it before because it never was an issue with my old Tritton AXPro's, my old Astros or even my Turtle Beach PX5's . The voice volume has always been set at 10. I guess the Warhead voice chat is already amplified. Thankfully, I'm please with them as if right now. I still need some more extended time but as of now, they see to be good.

I never updated my opinion on the A50s, but even after the v1.1 update they still were not impressive enough to keep. The 'full' sound from the cans was just entirely too overwhelming to be as pinpoint accurate as my A40s or PC360s. Not to mention the chat cable quickly become annoying. IMO, Astro needs to return to the table and seek some sort of bluetooth solution like what TB is doing with the XP400/500. I'd also like to see a different preset selection than the 1,2,3 they currently offer. 3 was the setting I used most and it still did not deliver the most important sounds in the game properly (gunshots, footsteps, etc).

You had the exact same problem with the Warheads I did. I also read from others with the same experience, that buying another set wont fix it, so I pretty much have given up on them at this point. I did try turning the the VOICE setting, under preferences like you did. And while that definitely helped.. the mic was just way to sensitive (hot) for my tastes. No other microphone I've used had those issues and the Warhead was the only headset that required me to crank down the VOICE/GAME volume sounds in the game.
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Originally Posted by loganhunter2002 View Post

I took your advise and went with the XP400. I like it a lot. Thanks

I personally think the XP400 is the best buy for the money. It does everything good enough. Its super easy to setup & transport. And its really wireless. Like completely wireless. For anybody looking for real surround sound just for online gaming purposes (ie.. you dont care about audiophile quality sound). You cannot beat the XP400 features or price.

As its stands Im currently keeping/using two headsets. PC360s at home & XP400s at the girlfriends house.
post #4817 of 5170
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Originally Posted by plasmaowner View Post

Hey fellas,
Sorry I don't have time to read the whole thread because I need to buy today. Can anyone recommend me a good solid wireless headset to use with my 360? I play mainly SC5 and some shooters and racing games. Price is not an issue but don't really want to spend more then $150.
Thanks!

$135 bucks.. will get you the TB X42s which is yesterdays technology, but they are wireless and they are as cheap as wireless gets.

http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Wireless-Surround-Headset-Xbox-360/dp/B006W41W3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346800336&sr=8-1&keywords=x42

That said, I'd HIGHLY recommend spending $47 more and getting the XP400s. You wont be sorry!

http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Surround-Headset-Xbox-360-6304300/dp/B006W41W4Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346800322&sr=8-1&keywords=xp400
post #4818 of 5170
Daekwan I was almost sold on the Sennheiser 558's but I'm not sure about getting an open design. Can you recommend a good set of closed phones with surround sound tech? When at home I'll be hooking to my AVR and when traveling I'll be using either the iPad or my phone so the AVR will do all the processing for 5.1 material.
post #4819 of 5170
Excellent, thanks Daekwan for the suggestions, I'll probably go with the XP400s. Just wondering how comfortable these will fill after 3-4 hours of gameplay. Are they heavy? Any pain or discomfort after hours of gameplay?
post #4820 of 5170
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Originally Posted by plasmaowner View Post

Excellent, thanks Daekwan for the suggestions, I'll probably go with the XP400s. Just wondering how comfortable these will fill after 3-4 hours of gameplay. Are they heavy? Any pain or discomfort after hours of gameplay?

The XP400s are easily the most comfortabl headset I've ever owned.
post #4821 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

Daekwan I was almost sold on the Sennheiser 558's but I'm not sure about getting an open design. Can you recommend a good set of closed phones with surround sound tech? When at home I'll be hooking to my AVR and when traveling I'll be using either the iPad or my phone so the AVR will do all the processing for 5.1 material.

If your AVR can process the 5.1 into virtual surround, why do you need a headset to do it as well?
post #4822 of 5170
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

If your AVR can process the 5.1 into virtual surround, why do you need a headset to do it as well?

I'm not sure that my AVR can do that but all my other sources will be strictly stereo.
post #4823 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

I never updated my opinion on the A50s, but even after the v1.1 update they still were not impressive enough to keep. The 'full' sound from the cans was just entirely too overwhelming to be as pinpoint accurate as my A40s or PC360s. Not to mention the chat cable quickly become annoying. IMO, Astro needs to return to the table and seek some sort of bluetooth solution like what TB is doing with the XP400/500. I'd also like to see a different preset selection than the 1,2,3 they currently offer. 3 was the setting I used most and it still did not deliver the most important sounds in the game properly (gunshots, footsteps, etc).
You had the exact same problem with the Warheads I did. I also read from others with the same experience, that buying another set wont fix it, so I pretty much have given up on them at this point. I did try turning the the VOICE setting, under preferences like you did. And while that definitely helped.. the mic was just way to sensitive (hot) for my tastes. No other microphone I've used had those issues and the Warhead was the only headset that required me to crank down the VOICE/GAME volume sounds in the game.
I personally think the XP400 is the best buy for the money. It does everything good enough. Its super easy to setup & transport. And its really wireless. Like completely wireless. For anybody looking for real surround sound just for online gaming purposes (ie.. you dont care about audiophile quality sound). You cannot beat the XP400 features or price.
As its stands Im currently keeping/using two headsets. PC360s at home & XP400s at the girlfriends house.

I'm with you on the issues for the A50's, as far as the sound stage. You're right, the overall sound is overwhelming and muddy, at the same time. Setting 3 definitely does not pinpoint certain audio cues, like footsteps. I can't tell if the enemy is 20 feet or 5 feet away, until the enemy's at my doorstep, lol. I think Astro put too much emphasis on ambient sounds, instead of gunfire and footsteps. It feels as if the surround sound has too much reverb. I hear more wind in the background than footsteps for spatial direction. Hopefully, the customizable EQ settings in the near future, can alleviate that. If not, Astro won't get my money again. at least not the A50's.
For Warheads, the "hot mic" is the perfect example of what I was trying to convey. For the most part though, it does help much more. I think the Tritton/Microsoft combo will somehow find a way to tone it down a bit. The Warheads can easily pinpoint footsteps and gunshots. I know exactly where the enemy is at. I think the spatial direction is superb. It's on point while playing Battlfield 3. The MW3 sound cues are accurate as well. I can't hear the enemy's footsteps if you're using the "dead silence" perk, but I can hear everything else. The headset does have a underlying hiss if you're on the dashboard, but it's a powered device and I don't have any problems with that. I never hear the hiss if I'm playing games or watching Netflix. It doesn't ring my ears after I take them off either.
I'm still making the final judgement for the right headsets but I think the Warheads are going in the right direction.


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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

The XP400s are easily the most comfortabl headset I've ever owned.

I've had every headset you can think of that's made my Turtle Beach, and IMHO, the old X4's are much more comfortable compared to the newer headsets. My PX5's squeeze my head, and the XP400 feel exactly the same. I still have my X41's and they are more comfortable and lighter. They just needed the cans to be bigger around the ears. I have tiny ears so it's nothing to me but some of my friends have larger ears. The Astro A40's are the most comfortable by far, then the A50's. I think the Warheads are good for me because I have a small head
Edited by digiTaL wiZ - 9/5/12 at 3:48pm
post #4824 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

If your AVR can process the 5.1 into virtual surround, why do you need a headset to do it as well?

I'm not sure that my AVR can do that but all my other sources will be strictly stereo.

Most AVRs can. What's your AVR?  

And in my experience, virtual surround just makes things sound worse if you're not starting from 5.1. You don't need it for stereo sources like an iPad. 
post #4825 of 5170
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Most AVRs can. What's your AVR?  
And in my experience, virtual surround just makes things sound worse if you're not starting from 5.1. You don't need it for stereo sources like an iPad. 

I have an Onkyo SR608.
post #4826 of 5170
Seems like they have something called "theater-dimensional", although not sure it it works for headphones. Try it out, see how it sounds.
post #4827 of 5170
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

I never updated my opinion on the A50s, but even after the v1.1 update they still were not impressive enough to keep. The 'full' sound from the cans was just entirely too overwhelming to be as pinpoint accurate as my A40s or PC360s. Not to mention the chat cable quickly become annoying. IMO, Astro needs to return to the table and seek some sort of bluetooth solution like what TB is doing with the XP400/500. I'd also like to see a different preset selection than the 1,2,3 they currently offer. 3 was the setting I used most and it still did not deliver the most important sounds in the game properly (gunshots, footsteps, etc).

I'm starting to think there is something wrong with my mix amp or my hearing. I thought the A40 sounded muffled and bass heavy but the PC360 sounds good but have no depth and limited direction to the foot step sounds. Maybe that is why I like the A50 so much more is because I can pinpoint the direction and they have more depth to me. Which mix amp are you using with your PC360's? I would like to keep the PC360 for the open design that way I can still hear the baby monitor that I prop next to my head.
post #4828 of 5170
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Seems like they have something called "theater-dimensional", although not sure it it works for headphones. Try it out, see how it sounds.

How long is the cord on your Ultrasone 780s? I can't seem to see it listed on the Amazon page.
post #4829 of 5170
Like 10 feet maybe? Its pretty long.
post #4830 of 5170
Ok cool, the thing I liked about the Sennheiser is that it had a normal sized cord but also included an extension. My AVR is just about 10 or so feet so I'd need a decent length of cable.
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