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post #4921 of 5436
I just recently got back into console gaming and wanted to purchase a gaming headset that didn't break the bank... I wanted to keep it under 150 (sorry no Astro A40), be able to provide DD 5.1/7.1, and be a wired set-up (live in an apartment, so lot's of interference sources).

So after doing some searching and research I decided to try both the Turtle Beach DPX21 and the Tritton 720+.

Prices -

Turtle Beach DPX21 - 99.99
Tritton 720+ - 149.99

Packaging -

Turtle Beach DPX21 - Standard packaging. Missing the cable to power the unit. Had to use my PS3 charging cord as a hax to get it to work. No connector for the old xbox toslink.
Tritton 720+ - Amazing packaging. Cables also were beefy. Had everything to get it up and running (including a connector for the old xbox toslink).

VS. 720+ had beefier cables. Winner 720+

Build Quality -

Turtle Beach DPX21 - Plastic Construction throughout the headset. The earpieces are attached to the band using a small plastic housing with small screws (looked fragile). The earpieces are rotatable around the headband, have a soft mesh covering over the ear padding, and are also quite comfortable for longer gaming sessions (no notable discomfort). The headset band is adjustable and fit my head nicely (I wear a large/xl Reebok Flexfit NFL hat). The top of the headset band also has padding to provide more comfort. The mic was permanently attached to the left ear piece, and rotates up and down and provided an adjustable boom piece. I didn't like how when the mic when rotated up cause left ear piece lost some movement capabilities.

Also the hand controls provides bass boost, chat volume, game volume, muting and some other features (chat boost, etc). Also has an attachment for the xbox controller.

Tritton 720+ - Plastic Construction throughout the headset and further appears that this headset could take some abuse. Also the plastic construction flows so nicely with this headset. The earpieces are rotatable around the headband, have a pleather covering over the ear padding, and are comfortable for a longer gaming session (there was some pinching of the head with the headset, not uncomfortable). The headset band is also adjustable and also has padding to provide more comfort. The mic is detachable and provides a very flexable boom. Truly amazing. I woud also like to note that tighter feel around the head also provided a better isolation from outside sounds.

Also the hand controls provides chat volume, game volume, and muting. Also had an attachment for the xbox controller. Also provides a breakaway component so you can move with the headphones on.

VS. 720+ hands down destroys the DPX in build quality. I enjoyed the tighter isolation provided by the 720+. Winner 720+

Surround Processor -

Turtle Beach DPX21 - Small unit, light plastic unit. USB powered from console. Also requires a toslink connection from console for DD but can also take an analog connection with adjustable input volume for that analog connection. Also provides bass boost and general volume control. Also on/off switch. USB/analog connection for headset.

Tritton 720+ - Big unit. USB powered from console. Also requires a toslink connection from console for DD. Also provides volume control. Also provides an adjustable EQ for stereo (no blue light), movie (blue light), (music green light). For gaming I kept the blue light on. Also on/off switch. Proprietary connection for the headset.

VS. Both had hiss, but to my ears the Tritton provided less hiss, almost not noticeable and the DPX I could make out the hiss when no sound was provided. The DPX however provided bass boost (great for bass heads) and the non-proprietary connection (could use different headset if desired). Winner - Both. Bass/Universal Connection - DPX (DSS) and Less hiss 720+.

Headset Sound -

Turtle Beach DPX21 - Good sound. Strong adjustable bass (can adjust that rumble to your liking). Can definitely make out directional sound (e.g. bullets, footsteps, etc.). Everything sounded nice after adjusting the bass to my liking: dialogue was clear but at times sounded a a little muddied (especially if bass was involved and not tamed) 40mm drivers.

Tritton 720+ - Good sound. Everything sounds balanced everything sounds tight. Can definitely make out directional sound (e.g. bulltets, footsteps, etc). Everything sounded amazing: dialoge, surround, and bass flowed really well together. 50mm drivers

VS. Both provided good sound. Again to my ears the the Tritton sounded tighter and more accurate. It provided the oomph when needed and provided clearer "surround sounds." Bass was definitely lighter compared to the DPX21, but you could hear it when needed in games. Winner - Both. Bass - DPX and Tighter - 720+

Sounds come down to personal preference. Both will do what is advertised provide virtual surround sound and put's you in the game. Really depends what you want... bass or tightness.

In the end I chose the 720+ - it fit more to my personal taste. However if you can get past the build quality the DPX was cheaper by 50 and provided that rumble if your looking for it.

BTW - I did not test mic/chatting. I don't use it often so I really don't care for it.
post #4922 of 5436
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Originally Posted by EngenZerO View Post

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VS. Both had hiss, but to my ears the Tritton provided less hiss, almost not noticeable and the DPX I could make out the hiss when no sound was provided. The DPX however provided bass boost (great for bass heads) and the non-proprietary connection (could use different headset if desired). Winner - Both. Bass/Universal Connection - DPX (DSS) and Less hiss 720+.

interesting. you didn't also notice a buzzing sound during low volume scenes and menus with the 720+? I'm not talking about a soft hiss, but more of a low frequency buzz.
post #4923 of 5436
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Originally Posted by jasnmb View Post

interesting. you didn't also notice a buzzing sound during low volume scenes and menus with the 720+? I'm not talking about a soft hiss, but more of a low frequency buzz.

Nope. No buzzing.
post #4924 of 5436
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Originally Posted by EngenZerO View Post

Nope. No buzzing.

maybe there have been some defective units going around then. When I had the 720+, I experienced both soft hiss and buzzing. Other user reviews I've read mentioned the same thing. Glad to hear it's not a universal problem.

BTW, the 720 can also be used with any headphone:

http://i53.tinypic.com/2zpjzwi.jpg
post #4925 of 5436
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Originally Posted by jasnmb View Post

interesting. you didn't also notice a buzzing sound during low volume scenes and menus with the 720+? I'm not talking about a soft hiss, but more of a low frequency buzz.
When my Warhead has no other sound going through it, you ca hear a slight hiss. Sounds a bit like Morse code. You can't hear it at all once you power up the 360.
post #4926 of 5436
Anyone not looking to break the bank, and have the best sound for gaming...PLEASE for the love of god stop buying "gaming labeled" headsets (TB, Tritton, etc.) - as they are garbage when you compare them to an actual audio-headset.

$150 or less...

http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=pd_sim_e_1

These cans will out perform anything else in this range. I literally cringe when I see posts like the above one talking about the TB's and Tritton's. You can find a processor (DSS2 or MixAmp) for cheap to go along with these, and mic's are very inexpensive. You might have a few more wires, but you'll have 10x better sound with the games you'll be playing.
post #4927 of 5436
"You might have a few more wires, but...". Exactly, that's the whole point. If audiophile was the point, just stick w/ the wired set up you mentioned. A truly wireless set up was the point. For me, the convenience of wireless was more important. Besides, the sound/processing is pretty good-just not audiophile.
post #4928 of 5436
Can somebody post the name of, and/or a link to, that microphone that has self adhesive that can be used with cans like this? For the life of me I can't remember what it was called.
post #4929 of 5436
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

Can somebody post the name of, and/or a link to, that microphone that has self adhesive that can be used with cans like this? For the life of me I can't remember what it was called.

Here ya go BB...

http://www.modmic.com/

(Not sure if they have released the ones with the mutable mic yet)
post #4930 of 5436
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

"You might have a few more wires, but...". Exactly, that's the whole point. If audiophile was the point, just stick w/ the wired set up you mentioned. A truly wireless set up was the point. For me, the convenience of wireless was more important. Besides, the sound/processing is pretty good-just not audiophile.

My post wasn't in response to you, it was actually directed at Engen's post above. I periodically check on this thread to see what's new, and when I see posts like his with no one from AVS steering him away from those crappy choices and into something that is 10x better sound wise, it frustrates me ha-ha.

Intel, I was like you in that I wanted something wireless (and waited forever on the Warheads). I finally picked some up after I got the Senn 598's/DDS2 combo I've been using the last few months - and quite honestly I could never buy something like the Warheads again. As Daekwon wrote on the previous page, wireless headsets still have a ways to go before they come close to the soundstage some of these audio cans produce. And my preference is sound >>>>> wires.
post #4931 of 5436
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Originally Posted by vedderpj13 View Post

Here ya go BB...
http://www.modmic.com/
(Not sure if they have released the ones with the mutable mic yet)

That's it! Thanks. Looks like they have not released a muteable version yet, but with a Mixamp or other decoder that shouldn't be an issue. Reading through their blog posts and comments it appears they have excellent customer service as well. I was/am considering the PC360 but at almost double the price of the AD700 I'm not sure that makes sense. Oh, the choices! Anyway, I'm definitely considering going this route instead of a full-on headset.
post #4932 of 5436
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Originally Posted by vedderpj13 View Post

My post wasn't in response to you, it was actually directed at Engen's post above. I periodically check on this thread to see what's new, and when I see posts like his with no one from AVS steering him away from those crappy choices and into something that is 10x better sound wise, it frustrates me ha-ha.
Intel, I was like you in that I wanted something wireless (and waited forever on the Warheads). I finally picked some up after I got the Senn 598's/DDS2 combo I've been using the last few months - and quite honestly I could never buy something like the Warheads again. As Daekwon wrote on the previous page, wireless headsets still have a ways to go before they come close to the soundstage some of these audio cans produce. And my preference is sound >>>>> wires.

I'm pretty sure those would probably destroy the sound from the 720+.

But, now I have to go to buy multiple items and wires. I know to some that's not a hassle but I wanted a headset that was just for nominal use at night and at some times during the day, and I really didn't feel like doing all that... it's me being lazy. I'm ok with the sound that the 720+ produce and my aim at this thread wasn't to anger anyone just help anyone who was looking at a wired setup that was all in one box.

Trust me I value sound too... my normal earphones are earsonic sm3 and my ht setup consists of ascend speakers and a svs sub... it's just I really didn't care for some reason this time around for my self personally.

I do appreciate the advice though, so thumb's up on that! Your option probably is the best way to go for pure audio bliss in a headphone environment so that's probably another option some may want to look at, smile.gif

Thank you though for this so that some can explore such an option.
Edited by EngenZerO - 11/13/12 at 8:24am
post #4933 of 5436
the wireless mixamp 5.8 (if you can fine one) combined with any headphone is a good wireless alternative.

granted you still have some short wires going from the headphone to the wireless transmitter, which can clip to your belt. but it's still better than a fully wired box, with wires stretching across your floor from your chair to tv.
post #4934 of 5436
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Originally Posted by vedderpj13 View Post

Anyone not looking to break the bank, and have the best sound for gaming...PLEASE for the love of god stop buying "gaming labeled" headsets (TB, Tritton, etc.) - as they are garbage when you compare them to an actual audio-headset.

$150 or less...

http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=pd_sim_e_1

These cans will out perform anything else in this range. I literally cringe when I see posts like the above one talking about the TB's and Tritton's. You can find a processor (DSS2 or MixAmp) for cheap to go along with these, and mic's are very inexpensive. You might have a few more wires, but you'll have 10x better sound with the games you'll be playing.


That dude has a head like Beetle Juice or those things are ridiculously HUGE!




Edited by smithfarmer - 11/15/12 at 9:19pm
post #4935 of 5436
They are huge. The AKG K701 / K702 / Q701 are even bigger!
post #4936 of 5436
Anyone tried the new gaming headset from Monoprice.
As always per monoprice they are priced reasonably I guess would like to get others input from this forum
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10850&cs_id=1080910&p_id=9771&seq=1&format=2#description
post #4937 of 5436
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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

Anyone tried the new gaming headset from Monoprice.
As always per monoprice they are priced reasonably I guess would like to get others input from this forum
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10850&cs_id=1080910&p_id=9771&seq=1&format=2#description

Wow. Even for wired, w/ Monoprice's reputation, that's a smokin' deal!
post #4938 of 5436
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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

Anyone tried the new gaming headset from Monoprice.
As always per monoprice they are priced reasonably I guess would like to get others input from this forum
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10850&cs_id=1080910&p_id=9771&seq=1&format=2#description

I've been wondering if these were any good too. I've been tempted many times but haven't pulled the trigger yet. It looks kind of like a DSS or DSS2 so I'd be curious if there was any hiss coming from the decoder.
post #4939 of 5436
Here is a review on the Monoprice just published: http://www.electronista.com/reviews/monoprice-7.1-wired-gaming-headset.html
post #4940 of 5436
please help.... i just bought a A50 but im starting to get worried about it. the tx that comes with the new a50 only works with the a50 headset. i would not be able to buy an extra rx to use with a different headset if the a50 headset breaks down the road.

im thinking i should go with the older a30 wireless system, that way if the a30 headset breaks, i could still use the tx/rx with any other headset/headphones.

please give any input, thanks.
post #4941 of 5436
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Originally Posted by jfeva0049 View Post

please help.... i just bought a A50 but im starting to get worried about it. the tx that comes with the new a50 only works with the a50 headset. i would not be able to buy an extra rx to use with a different headset if the a50 headset breaks down the road.
im thinking i should go with the older a30 wireless system, that way if the a30 headset breaks, i could still use the tx/rx with any other headset/headphones.
please give any input, thanks.

I've used all 3. I wouldnt recommend the A50 or A30. Only the A40.

The A50 isnt truly wireless and is too finicky. The A30 is an on-ear headset which isnt as comfortable and sounds hollow.

The A40 is the sweet spot. Get the "wireless" Mixamp if possible. Its about as close as you can get to the A50 "wireless" experience.
post #4942 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

I've used all 3. I wouldnt recommend the A50 or A30. Only the A40.
The A50 isnt truly wireless and is too finicky. The A30 is an on-ear headset which isnt as comfortable and sounds hollow.
The A40 is the sweet spot. Get the "wireless" Mixamp if possible. Its about as close as you can get to the A50 "wireless" experience.

would you have any worries about buying a used mixamp 5.8?? they do not sell new anymore without the a30 headset. if i bought the 5.8 used for around $100 and the a40 for $200, thats still around the $300 that the a50 would cost. with all that, do you still think the a40 is the way to go? thanks for your input.
post #4943 of 5436
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Originally Posted by jfeva0049 View Post

would you have any worries about buying a used mixamp 5.8?? they do not sell new anymore without the a30 headset. if i bought the 5.8 used for around $100 and the a40 for $200, thats still around the $300 that the a50 would cost. with all that, do you still think the a40 is the way to go? thanks for your input.

if you're going to get the 5.8 mixamp and a separate headset, you can get better quality than the a40 headset for equal or less money (see the OP's guide).
post #4944 of 5436
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Originally Posted by jasnmb View Post

if you're going to get the 5.8 mixamp and a separate headset, you can get better quality than the a40 headset for equal or less money (see the OP's guide).

yeah your prob right. i have the a50's on the way, i just wish i knew if astro is going to come out with a rx that is compatible with the new a50 tx.
post #4945 of 5436
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Originally Posted by jfeva0049 View Post

yeah your prob right. i have the a50's on the way, i just wish i knew if astro is going to come out with a rx that is compatible with the new a50 tx.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. It's safer to get the 5.8 mixamp or wired mixamp pro if you want to ensure you can use any headphone in the future.
post #4946 of 5436
Hi there, new member here.

Have read this thread through (or the most recent posts at least) because I'm in the market for a new headset.

So what I'd like is surround sound for games and the ability to use it on PC, ps3 and Xbox 360. I'd also like to be able to use it for the occasional listening to music on my iPhone.

At first I was looking at getting the px5s from turtle Beach. Wireless seemed nice until I started reading about possible interference from other wireless devices. I live in a block of flats/apartments so there are a lot of wireless devices round here and not just in my flat. So didn't fancy my chances.

Then I thought a wired headset with the TB DSS2 might be a good idea. Looking around, the Razer tiamat 2.2 seemed pretty cool. I spent 9 hours at a LAN party the other day in Razer krakens which felt pretty cool, but I want paying attention too much to the balance. They were ultra comfy though.

My issue is how would I connect a tiamat/dss2 setup to my Xbox and ps3? I'd still want to have voice chat and surround sound on all thee formats. Am I asking too much from one set of headphones? BTW, not willing to really go much more that 150 GBP for whole setup.

Would you knowledgeable people be able to offer any ideas and/or guidance?

Many thanks.
post #4947 of 5436
tiamat and dss2 wouldn't work correctly as tiamat has multiple speakers that needs multiple inputs(would only work on pc with 5.1/7.1 sound card inputs) and dss is dolby headphone for what essentially is for stereo headsets to make them surround.

I use tb deltas which is same thing as px5, xp500, and tangos. Love the all wireless, I'd say give them a chance in your apartment... you can always return them if they do pick up to much interference. I live in a townhouse and there are 100 networks around but usually on weird nights I get some interference but it's nothing bad. They run flawlessly more than they pick up interference.

All in what you want though. I use my tb's for work with the bluetooth, directv, 360, ps3, and pc. A lot of people in here will tell you not to go with TB, Tritton, etc... but it's all in what you want/need it for truthfully. They all don't "suck" and the complete wireless solutions are actually quite nice to have when you have a wife who goes to bed before you often and with a child on the way headsets are definitely great.

Now if I could just quit yelling during cod and halo 4... lol
post #4948 of 5436
There's a Tiamat 2.2 which is stereo only (downscaled version of 7.1 set) and seems to offer better balance than the Krakens going by some reviews.

Yeah, still might give the XP500 a go - you get the extra adapter for the XBox and they cost the same as the PX5s now.

Still interested in the adapters for the wired solution though, just to make sure I consider all the alternatives.....

Was looking for a Mixamp 5.8 wireless thing, but they don't do them anymore and they're well expensive to pick up second hand on ebay now, so that's kind of out. The packages are a bit expensive for me with A40s/whatever.

Anyone else got any comments to help me? Otherwise it might well be the XP500s/PX5s for the all in one solution convenience.

Cheers for your reply Threefiddle.
post #4949 of 5436
so i went out last night to best buy and picked up the A50 and A40 to demo. now i only have a few hours with both but i can say these things;

the A40's are more comfortable, they seem to have softer ear pads.
since my tv and receiver are about 15 feet away from my chairs, the cords of the A40 do get in the way.
the setup of the A50 was very simple, truly plug and play.
the sound of the A50's were better than the A40's
the A50's ear pads were a little to stiff.
neither had the bass that im used to, but i never tried a gaming headset before. if your expecting Beats by Dre type of bass, you will be sadly disappointed
movie and music vocals sounded muted and a little weird

i must say that even though these astro's were really good for gaming, i would not recommend them for movies or music. you could use them for music/movies to get by, but don't get either with the mindset that they are going to blow you away for anything other than for gaming.

with that being said, i do really like the A50's and will prob keep them over the A40's. i still want to try the mixamp 5.8 with some music headphones like at700 or something like that just to hear the difference.

these are just my first impressions and could very well change over the next week or so.
post #4950 of 5436
It's a shame that headsets don't seem to cater to sound in general - just games OR the rest, not both.

Either way, I use a pair of Senn HD201s at the moment, so I would imagine that I'll be blown away regardless?
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