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post #5101 of 5181
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Originally Posted by digiTaL wiZ View Post

You'll need to go directly to sennheiserusa.com/pc360 to order a pair. They're $249.99 and the shipping costs will depend on which state you live in. I actually bought my pc360's from Amazon, 4 days before Christmas. The price was only $191.73 so I went ahead and ordered them thinking the demand was low. A week after I got it, the price went back to the original price of $249.99. I would have paid the full price anyway. At the moment, Amazon is sold out so the only way to get them today is directly from sennheiser.

Nope, out of stock there too. I'm working with ClownBaby now, so hopefully it will all work out in the end. biggrin.gif
post #5102 of 5181
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Originally Posted by s1njin View Post

I have the PC360/MixAmp 5.8 combo, bought after much research on this very thread and Daekwan's rather emphatic endorsement of the combo. I have to say, I love the sound.

I HAVE had a persistent issue since purchase though; occasionally my friends will complain about a ear piercing sound coming through to them, but I can't hear it. I've never been able to get my kit to do it on demand, and I have had very little luck trying to find out what the cause is. I'm wondering if the 2013 mixamp will solve this. Also wondering if there is anything 'in it for me' by updating my Mixamp 5.8 to the Mixamp 2013. The 2013 isn't wireless is it? frown.gif

Daekwan made a comment awhile back when I was shopping about looking like RoboCop or a Cyborg or something when he's gaming. I would concur with that statement.

I honestly think that with all the complaints about the A50 sound mic issues and lack of EQ settings, as well as the same issues with 2013 A40 audio system, that Astro should probably really, really consider bringing back the Mixamp 5.8 Tx, with the Mixamp Rx. The mixamp Rx is still in stock however, the mixamp Tx is discontinued. What a shame too. It's a great setup for any gamer for consoles or a gaming PC. Astro's bread and butter is their Mixamps, not their headsets. The headsets are good but not great. Sometimes you've got to just wake up. All the complaints should be a reminder of what can happen when a company doesn't listen to if customers. That's what happened to Zipper and Socom. Now Zipper is gone. Just saying...
Hey, but how the saying goes...If it ain't broke, then don't fix it..
Edited by digiTaL wiZ - 2/5/13 at 3:35pm
post #5103 of 5181
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

Nope, out of stock there too. I'm working with ClownBaby now, so hopefully it will all work out in the end. biggrin.gif

Wow. I didn't know. I apologize. I'm sure they'll restock them really soon unless they're somehow looking at building a newer edition.
Edited by digiTaL wiZ - 2/5/13 at 4:07pm
post #5104 of 5181
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

If anyone knows of some super secret place to get a Senn PC360 please do tell. Looks like they're sold out everywhere. Also, has anyone used both the PC350 (or 350SE) and the PC360 that can comment on the difference in soundstage, if any? I know one is open and one is closed so you would think the PC360 should have a larger soundstage and less bass...
Feeler (or LMK if you have not worked out a deal on the PC360)- I have a PC350 I'd let go for a good price if anyone wants the closed model. Also in good shape, brand new ear pads (and a spare set too), so LMK. I have a spare wired MixAmp too. I am itching to get the AKG "annies" now that I've read (and re-read) the review here.
EDIT- I meant the PC350, the closed model is the one I have
Edited by mikemav - 2/6/13 at 8:25am
post #5105 of 5181
http://sennheiserusa.com/sec_press/ces2013/PC363D_PC350SE.pdf (This is the press release)

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-363D-Performance-Surround/dp/B008O515CK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360145912&sr=8-1&keywords=pc+363d
(This is the PC 363D details from Amazon)


http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-350-Special-Performance/dp/B008O510Y8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360145912&sr=8-2&keywords=pc+363d
(This is the PC 350SE details from Amazon)

Apparently Sennheiser really IS launching the newer editions of the PC 350/360, the PC 350SE and the PC 363D. Now it's coming with its own virtual 7.1 surround sound. It looks pretty nice, however, it doesn't look like they will work with the consoles like the Xbox or the Playstation, this time around. You will need to download the software on your PC in order for it to work. It will also be using a usb cable.
I game on my consoles so I'll still keep using the PC360/MixAmp 5.8 combo.
Edited by digiTaL wiZ - 2/6/13 at 2:34am
post #5106 of 5181
Those are some horrible looking pleather pads.

The first listing looks like a PC360 with integrated DH for PC use. Same specs too. Wouldn't doubt it. So it makes sense to just get a PC360 and an external DH device to use for everything, and not just PC.
post #5107 of 5181
Currently using a wireless Mixamp 5.8 purchased new from ebay and Senn PC 350 SE. Pretty happy with this setup. I wanted to drop down to the standard PC 350 to save a few $$ but after a lot of googling it seems as though the standard 350s do not have volume control on the headset and most importantly do not have the lift up mic mute but a button on the cables instead. That really sucks! The lift up mic mute is so very very nice and I would miss it greatly. Guess I am stuck with the overpriced 350 SE now.
post #5108 of 5181
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Originally Posted by GCS View Post

Currently using a wireless Mixamp 5.8 purchased new from ebay and Senn PC 350 SE. Pretty happy with this setup. I wanted to drop down to the standard PC 350 to save a few $$ but after a lot of googling it seems as though the standard 350s do not have volume control on the headset and most importantly do not have the lift up mic mute but a button on the cables instead. That really sucks! The lift up mic mute is so very very nice and I would miss it greatly. Guess I am stuck with the overpriced 350 SE now.

You are correct there. I didn't realize the PC350 had an inline mute until I went to verify from what you said. That does seem to be a big oversight, especially as the PC360 has/had it.
post #5109 of 5181
Hence why they released the SE version and charge a lot more for it.

If I could find a good deal on a set of 360s I would probably go that route to save a few $$. While closed design is better for me and my wife and kids, $250 for these SEs is rather annoying.
post #5110 of 5181
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Originally Posted by digiTaL wiZ View Post

http://sennheiserusa.com/sec_press/ces2013/PC363D_PC350SE.pdf (This is the press release)

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-363D-Performance-Surround/dp/B008O515CK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360145912&sr=8-1&keywords=pc+363d
(This is the PC 363D details from Amazon)


http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-350-Special-Performance/dp/B008O510Y8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360145912&sr=8-2&keywords=pc+363d
(This is the PC 350SE details from Amazon)

Apparently Sennheiser really IS launching the newer editions of the PC 350/360, the PC 350SE and the PC 363D. Now it's coming with its own virtual 7.1 surround sound. It looks pretty nice, however, it doesn't look like they will work with the consoles like the Xbox or the Playstation, this time around. You will need to download the software on your PC in order for it to work. It will also be using a usb cable.
I game on my consoles so I'll still keep using the PC360/MixAmp 5.8 combo.

The PC363d does have 2 3.5mm connectors that you can use on the Mixamp or whatever. It just also comes with that 7.1 sound card. I wish they sold that separately as I only see it driving up the price of the headset for those of us that wouldn't need it.

Edit: Also, from what I've heard, they're not getting rid of the PC360. I was told both would be in stock sometime in March.
post #5111 of 5181

If you are looking for a closed headset and want the best and are willing to pay for it, consider the Beyerdynamic MMX 300. Pricier than the PC 350 SE, but very well built. These headsets are very well made - not as plasticky as the Sennheiser headsets. I used the MMX for a couple of years and was very happy with it. Very comfortable, great soundstage / positioning characteristics. (I switched to an open headphone afterwards). A quick check shows these available on overstock for $350.

post #5112 of 5181
I know the Beyer is the way to go for high end but I am not looking for it. I am looking for good but a better price point. If the 350 SE was about $100 less I would shut up about it and just play.

Only reason for closed for me is that my wife kids are typically in the room next to me when I play (rooms are wide open) and as we all know COD and other games don't always inspire the best language in one another. Don't need my wife and kids hearing all the BS people say. The open PC 360 may not even be a problem but I have heard that using them that people in the room could hear what was flowing through the headset.

Greg
post #5113 of 5181
You should consider the SLYRs. They're a really solid headset, closed design, good sound, flip up mic mute.
post #5114 of 5181
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

The PC363d does have 2 3.5mm connectors that you can use on the Mixamp or whatever. It just also comes with that 7.1 sound card. I wish they sold that separately as I only see it driving up the price of the headset for those of us that wouldn't need it.

Edit: Also, from what I've heard, they're not getting rid of the PC360. I was told both would be in stock sometime in March.

Yes, you are correct. I didn't look at all the specs with the (2) 3.5mm until later on. My bad. I still think the PC 360/ MixAmp or MIxAmp 5.8. combo is better. As of now, the usb sound card is suspect. I read some of the comments of Amazon and the software for it rather weak. One of the customers said "It's really more of a driver than actual software. After installed from the CD all you get is task-bar icon that lets you select between different surround modes. Such as 2.1, 5.1, 7.1, etc." If I was a PC gamer, I would still use the PC 360's and a premium sound card like the ASUS Xonar Essence STX or the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro.
post #5115 of 5181
If someone is looking for or in need of an Astro MixAmp 5.8 to enchance your gaming for your console or PC, there a few available MixAmps on Ebay as of right now.
post #5116 of 5181
Was wondering if any one could come up with a simpler idea for sending the signal of my connected devices to my astro a50s? (HTPC has optical out, Xbox 360 optical out, and BD player optical out. All are just currently connected to my Denon 3312 and my L/C/R speakers. But for late night gaming/movies I just picked up these A50s. Currently They are just hooked up to my xbox. Thanks! PS Im aware I can plug them in the tv but it would only come out as stereo...Or does the Dolby pro logic just convert stereo in to 5.1 surround anyways? All my components are currently connected via HDMI to my receiver, is the toslink audio out still always active on these devices even though they are still sending audio via hdmi? One forum member said i should look in to this.. http://www.amazon.com/Control-Audio-Selector-Switcher-Splitter/dp/B003C15798/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1360748647&sr=8-3&keywords=toslink+ir+switch Also If i just picked up another set of a50s could one mix amp drive both phones?
post #5117 of 5181
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Originally Posted by Chriscorv58 View Post

Was wondering if any one could come up with a simpler idea for sending the signal of my connected devices to my astro a50s? (HTPC has optical out, Xbox 360 optical out, and BD player optical out. All are just currently connected to my Denon 3312 and my L/C/R speakers. But for late night gaming/movies I just picked up these A50s. Currently They are just hooked up to my xbox. Thanks! PS Im aware I can plug them in the tv but it would only come out as stereo...Or does the Dolby pro logic just convert stereo in to 5.1 surround anyways? All my components are currently connected via HDMI to my receiver, is the toslink audio out still always active on these devices even though they are still sending audio via hdmi? One forum member said i should look in to this.. http://www.amazon.com/Control-Audio-Selector-Switcher-Splitter/dp/B003C15798/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1360748647&sr=8-3&keywords=toslink+ir+switch Also If i just picked up another set of a50s could one mix amp drive both phones?

Some TV's do pass a 5.1 signal through, but most do not. And, I don't see that that receiver has an optical out. So, if you're wanting to use the A50's for all those devices then you'll need to just use the switch.
post #5118 of 5181
Well if all pro logic does is convert stereo to 5.1 does it matter my TV optical only puts out 2 channel?
post #5119 of 5181
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Originally Posted by Chriscorv58 View Post

Well if all pro logic does is convert stereo to 5.1 does it matter my TV optical only puts out 2 channel?

It's not the same as "real" 5.1.
post #5120 of 5181
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Originally Posted by Chriscorv58 View Post

Well if all pro logic does is convert stereo to 5.1 does it matter my TV optical only puts out 2 channel?

It matters because most TVs only output 2 channel PCM. Meaning it's converting ALL signals to 2 channel PCM for the optical out (no Dolby whatsoever), meaning you're not going to get the proper processing needed for Dolby Headphone and other virtual surround techs that rely on Dolby Digital/Pro Logic II to do their work. You would essentially just be having 2 channel stereo with tons of reverb and artifically enhanced soundstage. Zero surround emulation.

Keep in mind, that TVs that DO have Dolby Digital branding tends to be for the OTA signal, and not external devices. For example: My TV converts everything to two channel PCM, with the exception of the coaxial cable directly from the wall. HD channels output in Dolby Digital a lot of times, so things like the Mixamp can work on those specific broadcasts.

Unless a TV specifically state optical pass through, I wouldn't hold my breath in hopes of finding a TV that truly retains Dolby Digital through it's optical output.

As for Pro Logic II signals (usually off a Wii or PS2, etc), can work through RCA cables, through some trickery I don't even understand. This however requires the signal be specifically encoded in Dolby Digital/Dolby Pro Logic II for it to work. It will not work on a basic stereo signal. IIRC (not 100% sure), Dolby Pro Logic II is secretly embedded in Dolby Digital signals as well, though obviously won't sound as good. This in effect would make something like the Mixamp work with say, a DVD inserted on a PS2 and using RCA inputs on the first two Mixamp models with RCA inputs.

I'll have to prove this a little later, as I own a PS2 and some DVDs are pretty convincing in surround emulation.
Edited by Raven Crimson - 2/13/13 at 10:33am
post #5121 of 5181
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post


Some TV's do pass a 5.1 signal through, but most do not. And, I don't see that that receiver has an optical out. So, if you're wanting to use the A50's for all those devices then you'll need to just use the switch.

I recommend finding out if your TV outputs a 5.1 signal. If you bought it in the last couple of years, chances are pretty good that it will. If so, you might be able to connect your mixamp to the digital output of your TV, letting your Denon receiver effectively do the HDMI switching it already is.

 

Determining whether the 5.1 signal will make it to your mixamp given your current setup (HDMI switched through receiver) will require some experimentation. Your receiver will have to pass 5.1 audio via the HDMI connection to your TV, and your TV will have to pass that 5.1 signal to the mixamp. It seems like it would be an elegant solution if it works.

 

P.S. If you end up needing a toslink switch, also consider an inexpensive manual toslink switch. Here's a 3x1 switch for less than $7. 

post #5122 of 5181
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Originally Posted by ATB View Post

I recommend finding out if your TV outputs a 5.1 signal. If you bought it in the last couple of years, chances are pretty good that it will. If so, you might be able to connect your mixamp to the digital output of your TV, letting your Denon receiver effectively do the HDMI switching it already is.

 

Determining whether the 5.1 signal will make it to your mixamp given your current setup (HDMI switched through receiver) will require some experimentation. Your receiver will have to pass 5.1 audio via the HDMI connection to your TV, and your TV will have to pass that 5.1 signal to the mixamp. It seems like it would be an elegant solution if it works.


P.S. If you end up needing a toslink switch, also consider an inexpensive manual toslink switch.
Here's a 3x1 switch
for less than $7. 
well it looks like It will send 5.1 as long as I'm watching cable or using its Netflix smart app. Well I can live with that, I'll be buying a switch. Thanks for all the guys.
post #5123 of 5181
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

Some TV's do pass a 5.1 signal through, but most do not. And, I don't see that that receiver has an optical out. So, if you're wanting to use the A50's for all those devices then you'll need to just use the switch.

I was looking on Amazon a few minutes ago and the PC 360 are in stock again. They're $249.95 and you can get the FREE Super Saver Shipping (5-8 business days).
post #5124 of 5181
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Originally Posted by digiTaL wiZ View Post

I was looking on Amazon a few minutes ago and the PC 360 are in stock again. They're $249.95 and you can get the FREE Super Saver Shipping (5-8 business days).

Beatdown pricing! Think I paid $204 with free prime shipping from Amazon.. August of last year.

Wonder why the price on these are going up, not down.
post #5125 of 5181
Audeze LCD-2
(This review is subject to change, and should be considered incomplete until further notice)



Sells for $995 (Headamp)

Review (Click to show)
Before I begin, I would like to personally thank Justin at Headamp for allowing head-fiers like myself to test out the Audeze LCD-2 at home for a few days. Without him and Headamp, I would have most likely never been able to demo these stellar, and extremely expensive headphones. The LCD-2 are one of the most popular, and highly regarded former flagships to date. Until the LCD-3's release, the LCD-2 was arguably known as the best headphone in the world in the $1500 or less price range. It's most popular and direct competitors in the price range are the Hifiman HE-6, the Sennheiser HD800, Ultrasone Edition 8 and Signature Pro, among some others.


Build Quality: I must say I'm not a big fan of the LCD-2's aesthetics. It has a very retro look to it, as if these were made in the 1940s. I'm sure there are many fans of it's look, but I'm not one of them. It looks clunky, way too large, and borderline utilitarian, in my opinion. The cups are made of wood (there are rosewood and bamboo variants, bamboo being lighter). I was sent the bamboo LCD-2, which I was hoping on, as the LCD-2 is quite heavy as is. The grills are black, with the Audeze grill design, with screws that protrude holding it in place. The headband adjustment is basically two long cylindrical rods, which look durable, but ugly as sin. The headband is padded with leather bumps, which aren't as offensive as the AKG K701/2/Q701 bumps. They aren't extremely soft, but get the job done. The cable input is a 4-pin XLR, which is leaps and bounds better than Hifiman's horrible screw-in type of connector.

The connectors are angled, which I'm a big fan of, as they allow the headphone cables to stick out a little in front of you, and not directly fall on your shoulders. The removable headphone cable looks straight out of 1940 as well, with small cables covering each channel and stuck together. While it's not the prettiest cable, I am a fan, as it's relatively flat, and should be mostly tangle-free. The termination is a very thich 6.3mm (1/4") plug, which screams rugged and durable. Unfortunately, there is no 3.5mm adapter of any kind, so you may want something like the Grado 1/4" to 3.5mm cable to connect to smaller devices. Due to the fact that the LCD-2 is actually pretty decent on lesser equipment (doesn't need a lot to sound good), you might wanna invest on such an adapter if you have a portable amp here or there. The LCD-2 is definitely not for portable use, but it can at least be transportable and enjoyable in that method.

The included pads are made of real leather (none of that pleather nonsense). They are angled, and VERY thick. Not the softest kind, but not hard either. I feel they are the right amount of firmness, personally. Audeze also sells vegan pads (which are more akin to something like velours) if you're like me, and prefer non-pleather/leather material.

As I briefly mentioned, the LCD-2 overall is a very retro, very heavy, very big, and of utilitarian design.


Comfort: The LCD-2 is not exactly what I'd call comfortable. The weight is definitely a factor. They also have some clamp, which can be a bit strong. I'd bend the headband out to lessen this, but as these are not mine, I've left them untouched. I don't mind it's clamp personally, but I would prefer a bit less. My biggest issue is that even for an open-design headphone, they have that airplane cabin-pressure feeling once you put them on. It's as if the pads find a seal, and you get that suction feeling. It's a bit surprising and unpleasant, but the feeling goes away after awhile.

As always, leather builds up heat and induces sweat, but the effect is somewhat better with leather compared to pleather which tends to add stickiness into the mix. Thankfully, as I demoed the LCD-2, Florida was going through a pretty strong cold front, so the pads didn't bother me much. I still would have preferred the vegan pads, but beggars can't be choosers. The headband on the first day of use put pressure on the top of my noggin, which was quite uncomfortable. After a day, I was able to get used to the feeling. Certainly not as bad as the AKG headband bumps which never disappear off the head.

Overall, I'd say the comfort on the LCD-2 is passable. Not the worst, but not great. It's between decent to good.


Accessories: You get the headphone, the cable, some stickers, and an AMAZING hard case. The case looks like it would survive a nuclear blast. Very impressive, to say the least. Not exactly something I'd keep in the the open, but it should offer extreme protection if you desire to use it.


Isolation/Leakage: As an open-ear headphone, the LCD-2 isn't exactly isolating. It lets external noises in, and leaks out a LOT. You definitely do not want to use this in a room with people, or even in a separate room with the door open.


Sound: To the meat of what everyone really wants to know. What does a $1000 headphone sound like? I must say... FANTASTIC. The tonal balance is quite warm, rich, creamy, and oooooh so seductive. The frequency response of the LCD-2 is VERY linear up until the upper mids, which then gently rolls off to a smooth treble range. This makes the LCD-2 like the HD650, in which is brings in a thick, musical, and non-fatiguing sound signature. In short, if I were to put the HE-400's bass with the HD650's mids and treble, with a pinch of refinement, the concoction would sound something like the LCD-2.

Is it all magical? Unfortunately, no. The LCD-2 has it's weaknesses. Number 1 being that the treble isn't what I'd consider natural. It's rolled off a bit. While I wouldn't change this (as it'd make the bass and mids less magical), the smooth treble leads to very little airiness in the sound and somewhat congested and small-ish soundstage. Can't have it all, it seems. Let's get into the specifics...


Bass: The bass. Dear god. The bass. Incredibly full, textured, and very, VERY deep. Due to the extreme linearity of the LCD2's response, I can't say the bass is emphasized, because it is PERFECTLY in line with the mids. Seriously, if you look at the published graphs, you'd see, there is absolutely no real emphasis anywhere. Does that mean the bass is neutral and not very strong? Yes and no. The LCD-2 has bar none, the best bass I have ever heard on any headphone. Not the MOST bass, just the best overall.

While I personally prefer the Denon D7000's fun fueled bass with it's emphasized and omnipotent sub bass, it isn't accurate, and doesn't have very strong mid bass. It also tends to add bass where there shouldn't be none. The Ultrasone Pro 2900's bass is incredibly agile, and sharp, but lacks quite a bit in the sub-region. The LCD-2's bass is full in all areas and not just certain frequencies. When a source demands it, the LCD-2 hits like Thor's hammer, and in all other cases, presents itself very naturally. There is absolutely no lack of bass here. Just accurate, and always involved in a proper manner.

The closest competitor (with very similar bass) is the Hifiman HE-400. The LCD-2 further improves on the type of bass the HE-400 is known for with even more texture and fullness. Headphones should strive to have the type of bass that the LCD-2 has. It's that good.


Mids: If you have read my HD650 review on this guide, you know how absolutely entranced I am by it's mids/vocals. What if I told you the LCD-2's mids are even better? That's right. The LCD-2's mids are incredibly intimate, haunting, and realistic. I have never heard vocals sound as if the singers were singing in the same room. This is as close as it's come to that. The best word for me to describe the mids is: NATURAL. Natural, organic, realistic, very detailed, and spine-chilling. Don't get me wrong, the HD650's mids are very, VERY close to this, but the LCD-2 just has that extra step that makes them stick out even more for me. Amazing. Absolutely.


Treble: The treble range. This is the LCD-2's weak point in terms of it's frequency response. In order to make the bass and mids as special as they are, something had to give. Unfortunately, it's the treble range. Technically rolled off and smooth. This gives the LCD-2 lose out on air and soundstage, which leads to congestion/stuffiness. The lack of air paired up with the incredibly full notes tends to clash sounds together in comparison to other headphones with more treble, which is the LCD-2's biggest shortcoming. Personally, the treble is the least important aspect of sound to me now, as most music is in the bass and mids region of the sound spectrum. Treble aids in perceived clarity with sparkle and air, but it's not essential or integral. The LCD-2 is not undetailed or veiled sounding. However, the treble does lack sparkle in comparison to more neutral offerings. That is undeniable. This is one area that it truly shares with the HD650. However, I feel the LCD-2 is quicker and more aggressive, so it doesn't sound laid back like the HD650.


Soundstage: As mentioned before, the lack of air and the congestion due to it's smooth treble response leads to a soundstage that is more akin to a closed headphone. Like a closed headphone with a large soundstage, but disappointing for an open headphone.

I directly compared the LCD-2 with my K702 65th Anniversary which is also warm/smooth.

The LCD-2: It's midnight, the place is a small, smoky jazz lounge. There is a very sultry, seductive singer in a long red dress, glass of red wine in hand, who recently brought you up on stage and sat you on a chair. She sits on your lap and begins to sing her slow, romantic song directly to you.

K702 Anniversary: Instead of a smoky jazz lounge, you're in the front row of an open theatre, same woman, same song, but she's moving around while singing it to many people.

Make sense? The LCD2 is a lot more intimate and closed in, while the Annie has a much bigger sense of air, space and perceived clarity of notes. Both are so very good in what they do, but very different in presentation. What I recently stated was how I personally heard the LCD-2 for music, the LCD-2 for gaming (with Dolby Headphone) fared quite a bit better. Soundstage opened up, with a very good sense of depth and relatively decent width. Not very large, but there was ample space to allow positional cues space to do their magic.


Positioning: Positional cues were surprisingly very good. I had zero issues locating sound placement, though lesser headphones with less thickness made it much easier to pinpoint sounds. The LCD-2 is one of the better headphones I have heard in terms of rear depth, which is incredibly beneficial for positional cues.


Clarity: Clarity for gaming is actually pretty good. That linear response in bass and mids gives the LCD-2 quite a detailed sound for gaming, even borderline analytical at times (like the HD650, which was also surprisingly detailed for gaming), while softening just the impact of the more annoying sounds like gun fire and glass shattering enough to reduce ear fatigue. You get fullness AND clarity. Not many headphones that do both.


Amping: The LCD-2 is surprisingly easy to power for a planar magnetic headphone, requiring minimal amping to sound good. I was able to use it with the Mixamp alone, though I would still recommend some amping to truly make this $1000 worth the purchase. No reason to skimp out here when you've aready spent so much money on the headphone alone. The LCD-2 is known to scale up quite a bit, as it can handle a ridiculous amount of power, despite not needing much to hit the ground running. It certain improved in refinement when I used paired the Mixamp up with my Compass 2 which does 2 watts at 50ohm. The LCD-2 can handle even more than that.


Value: Value is certainly questionable. It costs an exhorbitant amount of money, and you can get by with much, much less for gaming in particular.


Final Impressions: The LCD-2 is a truly stunning headphone with the best bass and mids I have heard to date. That being said, as far as gaming goes, there are headphones better suited that cost MUCH less. It however, a top tier headphone that will impress on almost all fronts with few weaknesses. You get lots of warmth, musicality, fullness, and truly organic sound. Treble, air, and congestion are it's weaknesses, but the overall package is so fantastic, you can forgive these faults once everything is taken into account. This is one headphone I suggest people use for gaming if you happen to own them, though I certainly wouldn't buy them with gaming as the top priority. It is certainly better for non-gaming needs, though hold their own for gaming, especially for casual/fun gaming.

Final Scores...

Fun: 9 (Fantastic. Incredible warmth, bass texture, mids, and fullness, for lots of immersion.)

Competitive: 7 (Good. Great clarity and detail, decent soundstage in Dolby Headphone with good rear positional cues.)

Comfort: 6.5 (Decent. Heavy, and clampy, but not completely offensive. It's passable. Comfort may be boosted with vegan pads and stretching the headband out for less clamp.)
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

Beatdown pricing! Think I paid $204 with free prime shipping from Amazon.. August of last year.

Wonder why the price on these are going up, not down.

My guess is because they're still in limited supply, and after having been OOS for so long they know there will be a demand for them.
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

Beatdown pricing! Think I paid $204 with free prime shipping from Amazon.. August of last year.

Wonder why the price on these are going up, not down.

Yeah, that's crazy because I bought my from Amazon the second week of December and they were only $191.73. The next week they were back up to the original price though. I guess I got lucky lol.
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In a completely obvious turn of events, the prime leaker SuperDAE got a friendly visit from the FBI.

http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/i02jZ0qksgY/

It does kind of validate that he's legit though.
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Has anyone tried out the TB XP Seven headset yet? 

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Originally Posted by ATB View Post

Has anyone tried out the TB XP Seven headset yet? 

Thats a clown question bro.

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