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post #5311 of 5434
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

There's no real magic to anything Astro and all the other gaming headset makers did last generation. They take Dolby 5.1 surround signal, apply patented Dolby Headphone (DH) processing to it.. and it outputs a simulated surround signal that makes regular 2-channel headphones sound like they are putting out true surround sound (more than 2 speakers). Headphone makers don't even have to use Dolby's patented DH tech to do this.. theres a few other companies that have made their own simulated surround sound, athough DH remains the most popular. I know Yamaha does.

So as long a device outputs Dolby 5.1 over an optical output, then in theory the DH processing in the Astro Mixamp will work on ANY device that outputs Dolby 5.1 surround sound. To test this you could try it with a standalone BR player, DVD player, etc. I'm not sure why they stressed "GAME AUDIO" in all caps, as but pretty much any Dolby 5.1 source material should work. MS also announced a couple of months ago that while they did change their voice chat connector to a proprietary port.. their will be an adapter available to provide a standard output. What all this means is that every headset, that used the optical port output on the 360 and voice chat output on the controller.. should indeed work with the upcoming XB1.

The PS4 announcement is actually a little more interesting. As the Mixamp does not use optical to recieve the Dolby 5.1 signal. It uses USB. But its good to hear that the USB method of sound delivery will continue to be supported. Its a shame that the XB1 doesnt support Dolby 5.1 over USB.. as its a much more robust cable, connector, has more bandwidth and also powers the Mixamp when connected. The Xbox requires a seperate cable to power the Mixamp frown.gif

Now whats most interesting is that Astro is finally an official XB partner. Hopefully that means access to MS proprietary wireless signal. And perhaps the announcement of their first TRULY wireless headset for the Xbox platform. Bring on the A60 thats 100% wireless and does not need a voicechat cable or TX base!

I just hope Astro does away with the bad sound quality on the A50s... it was quite a disappointment to me. So boomy. The PLYR1 is better, and at a fraction of the cost. Irony being that Astro helped aid the SK side for the SLYR and PLYRs.
post #5312 of 5434
I own this TV:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN55C7000-55-Inch-1080p-Black/dp/B0036WT4JW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1276868885&sr=8-1

and some 5.1 surround sound headphones. from Astro:

http://www.astrogaming.com/a40

I want to send my game audio (PS3, 360, XBO, PS4) to the TV and to my headphones. I use the TV audio in normal family conditions and then use my astros for gaming night when I want surround sound and loud volumes.

The problem is that my receiver is too old and doesn't even have HDMI inputs. So, I thought I had an easy solution. Connect all my HDMI inputs to the TV and run an optical out of the TV to my headphones. I just learned that the TV (all TVs)? somehow change the 5.1 audio into 2.0 and then send 2.0 out. I am not sure if 5.1 comes to the TV and the TV changes it. Or if the TV somehow tells the xbox to be 2.0 before it sends the audio out.

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201009/20100906141458921/[UC7000-NA]BN68-02627A-07L03-0903.pdf
Quote:
When the receiver (home theater) is set to on, you can hear sound output from the TV’s optical jack. When the TV is receiving a DTV signal, the TV will send 5.1 CH sound to the home theater receiver. When the source is a digital component such as a DVD / Blu-ray player / cable box / STB (Set-Top-Box) satellite receiver and is connected to the TV via HDMI, only 2 CH audio will be heard from the home theater receiver. If you want to hear 5.1 CH audio, connect the digital audio out jack from your DVD / Blu-ray player / cable box / STB satellite receiver directly to an amplifier or home theater.

So, it turns out that I am only sending 2.0 to my surround sound heaphones! frown.gif

I thought I might be able to fix the issue with a switch like this:

http://www.monoprice.com/Product/Index?p_id=7974

But it turns out that this does the same thing... sending 2.0 out. However, there are DIP switches on the back that can force a 5.1 audio out. But the problem there is that I would have to go to the switch and play with DIP switches everytime I want 5.1 audio out. And at that point, the TV would produce no audio. That approach works but it awfully painful.

http://www.monopricehub.com/files/manuals/7974_Manual_110408.pdf

Page 6 talks about this.

So, now I don't know what to do. I want my digital components to drive my TV audio as well as my 5.1 surround sound headphones and I don't know how to do that frown.gif

Any suggestions?
post #5313 of 5434
I'm starting to think I should run optical audio to my receiver

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/AVR3801_ownersmanual.pdf

And take the optical out from there to my headphones. But I am still wondering if I have the Xbox hooked up to the tv via hdmi. Will it still send 5.1 over optical or does the optical drop down to 2.0? I presume it must stay 5.1 or no one would ever get surround sound from their receiver!
post #5314 of 5434
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

I'm starting to think I should run optical audio to my receiver

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/AVR3801_ownersmanual.pdf

And take the optical out from there to my headphones. But I am still wondering if I have the Xbox hooked up to the tv via hdmi. Will it still send 5.1 over optical or does the optical drop down to 2.0? I presume it must stay 5.1 or no one would ever get surround sound from their receiver!

 

I think it might also drop down to 2.0 in that situation....only way to know for sure is to try it.  Problem is that 5.1 over optical isnt just a simple raw 5.1 format, it has to be encoded into dolby digital or DTS.  The AVR receives the encoded signal over optical, decodes it, usually does some sort of processing....and then is unable to re-encode it back into DD5.1.

 

The simplest way I've found to connect multiple consoles to a single headset is to use the AVR's headphone jack, but then you need to rely on the AVR's virtual surround.  Mine features the same dolby headphone as the astros, so it's a perfect substitute...but Ive also used AVRs with really terrible virtual surround.

 

I hate to say it, but you either need to invest in a more capable AVR, or deal with the PITA switch.  You could try a simple optical switch instead of an HDMI switch though.

post #5315 of 5434
So, my old receiver does switch optical audio. So, I hooked it up through that and still sent the HDMI to the TV.

O M G!

I cannot BELIEVE what I've been missing for so long! I am a gaming and theater enthusiast. How did I not know it was that messed up? I thought it was just unimpressive DH on the astros.

The bass is so much better. So tight. So loud. The bouncing betty in BOII surprised me when it first went off. I've never heard it sound like that. I was hearing creaks and tings all around me that I never really noticed before. Amazing!

The positional audio is working perfectly now too. I remember doing a test when I first got my astros where I stood in front of a waterfall and closed my eyes (this was in halo) and spun my character around. Then I tried to guess where the waterfall was based on sound only. I failed 1/2 the time. I couldn't tell a difference between back and front.

Now... right. Every. Single. Time.

It sounds better.

It works better.

I cannot wait to hear next gen with this thing now! Wahoo!!!
post #5316 of 5434
hey there.
I have have an older Elite receiver that was pre-HDMI
I run Toslink from XB, PVR & blueray to my receiver
I run component from XB to my receiver, toslink split from receiver to TV and XP500

I run both Astro A40's and TB XP500s
I have my astro mix amp connected to the component HD AV Cable on the XB
I have my TB XP500 hooked up to my receiver via toslink which is split.

I had an extra apple usb wall plug from an old Iphone; i hooked that into the back of my receiver for the usb power cord.

I cant see why this wouldn't work the same with the Astro set up..

All in all I have the benefit of two good headsets and depending on if I want to play music while i play with the XP500 or if i want to play and chat with the Astros its a win.

btw toslink splitter
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=966
post #5317 of 5434
I have sony elite and A50's the elite puts out far better bass and the overall sound is warm, the A50's is LOUDER and BRIGHTER and more comfortable for longer gaming, the Elite has a weak battery life, overall imo I dont think the astro's is $100 better I might take them back and just stick with the Elites
post #5318 of 5434
So for the last 3-4 years I have been using my Tritton AX720's and have really liked them.

This next week a new headset and mic will be arriving. I will try them with my pc to start and consider them for my new console if I ever can get my hands on one.

Audio-Technica ATH-AD700X http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009S332TQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mod Mic 2.3 http://www.modmic.com/

Hopefully I can figure out how to get everything working correctly and hopefully I like them.
post #5319 of 5434
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

So for the last 3-4 years I have been using my Tritton AX720's and have really liked them.

This next week a new headset and mic will be arriving. I will try them with my pc to start and consider them for my new console if I ever can get my hands on one.

Audio-Technica ATH-AD700X http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009S332TQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mod Mic 2.3 http://www.modmic.com/

Hopefully I can figure out how to get everything working correctly and hopefully I like them.

Should work great with your AX720s DD decoder box. Think you'll love the sound upgrade!
post #5320 of 5434
My 720 decoder box has a special connection, like you would see for a non usb mouse and keyboard or something...forget what you call that.

I'm getting ready to order a couple cables from monoprice, so I will look for that connection there.

Wonder if there are any other type of things I would need from monoprice for this headset to work with my pc or ps4?

Edit- I think I can just pull the 720 cord apart close to the headset where there is a 2 prong connector, and just hook in the headset and mic which then plugs into the decoder box...but there will be no volume controls for mic and headset so I am not sure how that would work.
Edited by mphfrom77 - 11/17/13 at 1:16pm
post #5321 of 5434
Yes you can do that. You will still have volume controls as well. If you pull it apart you'll see how it works. Pics in the first post.
post #5322 of 5434
Really ticked off that Xbox One is being released this week yet the promised headset adapter won't be available until "early 2014". I'm loving soundwhoring with my Astro A50s while I play COD Ghosts. I'll be getting the Xbox One at launch and I planned to do the GameStop $10 upgrade of COD Ghosts from the 360 version to the One version, but now I think I will wait as long as I can (30 days?) since I won't be able to use my headset with the new version.

Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning to do?
post #5323 of 5434
You can still use your headphones. Mic support won't possible without the adapter.
post #5324 of 5434
was referenced this thread from the ps4 sections
1. the headphones will only be used for online gaming, nothing else.
2. i am about 90% sure i am buying the plyr 1 to use on my ps4, any reason i shouldn't?
3. cheapest place to buy?
http://www.amazon.com/Skullcandy-Surround-SMPYFY-003-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B00C2B2Y9A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1384793210&sr=8-4&keywords=plyr1+skullcandy


i have read the last 8 pages and it seems like the way to go, but i am one of those people that
a. i know nothing about gaming headphones
b. don't upgrade very often, so don't want to have to buy something else a couple of years down the line...

thanks
post #5325 of 5434
Hey Ben try this thread. The creator of this thread is much more active over at that site. I think you will get a lot more responses there. Good luck, wish I could help you but I have never heard the PLYR headset. From what I have read they are the ish, but I don't know. Good luck.
post #5326 of 5434
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Originally Posted by mbyrnes View Post

Hey Ben try this thread. The creator of this thread is much more active over at that site. I think you will get a lot more responses there. Good luck, wish I could help you but I have never heard the PLYR headset. From what I have read they are the ish, but I don't know. Good luck.

thanks
post #5327 of 5434
Yeah, sorry. I don't have my main account's info here, and the thread is MUCH more active on Head-fi, since it's a headphone oriented website, whereas I'm limited to a small Xbox section here.
post #5328 of 5434
got the plyr 1 in, couple of questions

hooked up the optical and usb and then changed audio on PS4 to optical and dolby 5.1, but audio is still coming through TV? also the "mic" plug doesn't fit the DS4?? thanks in advance
post #5329 of 5434
post #5330 of 5434
Anyone here using a wireless mixamp 5.8 with their PS4? Curious how you have it connected? I was hoping to get chat audio through the controller and game audio from the optical output of the PS4 to the TX unit. Does this work? I am being told by astro that I have to order some USB chat cable. Any thoughts?
post #5331 of 5434
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Anyone here using a wireless mixamp 5.8 with their PS4? Curious how you have it connected? I was hoping to get chat audio through the controller and game audio from the optical output of the PS4 to the TX unit. Does this work? I am being told by astro that I have to order some USB chat cable. Any thoughts?

This is what I was wondering if it would work?

http://www.amazon.com/Female-Headset-Adaptor-iPhone-headset/dp/B004E9SZP0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1386038823&sr=8-11&keywords=3.5mm+male+2.5mm+female+adapter
post #5332 of 5434
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Anyone here using a wireless mixamp 5.8 with their PS4? Curious how you have it connected? I was hoping to get chat audio through the controller and game audio from the optical output of the PS4 to the TX unit. Does this work? I am being told by astro that I have to order some USB chat cable. Any thoughts?

I'm getting my 5.8 today.

Apparently, the Turtle beach PS4 chat cable (due to arrive next week for me) works with the 5.8. HOWEVER, I can't get my regular Mixamp to function properly WHEN I attach the mic to the PS4 controller, instead having to rely on chat coming through the Mixamp itself (which is problematic to me, because I like to leave my mixamp next to my PS4 which is like 8 feet away from me, so having the chat come straight from the controller would be ideal). No matter what settings I use, I absolutely can't have audio come out through the optical output on the ps4, and chat from the PS4. I have to choose one or the other.

The PS4 has been a right PITA to get to work properly when it comes to it's settings.
post #5333 of 5434
So I'm trying to understand the confusion. Currently on my xbox360, i have a set of sennheiser pc360. I hook an optical up to base. I keep the wireless 5.8 receiver beside me which is plugged into the base. The sennheiser has a pink and green plug, which i use a headset buddy ( www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-01-PC35-PH35-Smartphone-Blackberry/dp/B002SK66OY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386248856&sr=8-1&keywords=Headset+buddy. ) into the 5.8 . Then I use a simple cable from mixamp to my controller. You guys are saying this won't work on the ps4 ?
post #5334 of 5434
It works. Got my 5.8, hooked it up to the PS4, and the turtle beach chat cable between the RX unit and the PS4 controller. headphone/mic worked perfectly.

My confusion was because for some stupid reason, the 2011 Mixamp Pro wouldn't work properly IF I hooked up the mic directly to the Ps4 controller, while keeping game audio sent through the Mixamp. the PS4 would override one or the other. So I could either listen to the game and not chat, or chat and not hear the game. And yes, I know of the options to send either chat only, or game only. Still didn't function properly. I wanted this to work, since I wanted to leave the Mixamp near the Ps4, and hook up the short mic to the ps4 controller. Since I couldn't... I had to keep the Mixamp near me at all times, cable clutter and all.

Of course, this was mostly a test, since the 2011 Mixamp works perfectly, if you have IT do all things, from both game and chat audio (meaning the mic goes to the Mixamp, NOT the ps4 controller).

It's confusing, but don't worry, what didn't work for me was just something people wouldn't have done normally to begin with.
post #5335 of 5434
I'm new to the gaming headphone world and I was hoping someone could help me with a couple of questions.

Setup = Astro A50 to PS4

1. The master volume control on the headphones don't seem to be working anymore. It stays at the same level no matter how much I move the dial in either direction. Am I missing something?

2. I didn't know that the right ear cup allows for adjusting "game" and "voice" so I've been pressing buttons and probably have it all out of whack. Is there a reset back to the 50/50 default?

3. What preset do you use? I play BF4 and have been using # 3, but I wasn't sure if anyone preferred another option?


ps. on a side note, anyone have issues with nab 2k14 and their astros?

Thanks again for your help,
Brent
post #5336 of 5434
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Originally Posted by jbn008 View Post

I'm new to the gaming headphone world and I was hoping someone could help me with a couple of questions.

Setup = Astro A50 to PS4

1. The master volume control on the headphones don't seem to be working anymore. It stays at the same level no matter how much I move the dial in either direction. Am I missing something?

2. I didn't know that the right ear cup allows for adjusting "game" and "voice" so I've been pressing buttons and probably have it all out of whack. Is there a reset back to the 50/50 default?

3. What preset do you use? I play BF4 and have been using # 3, but I wasn't sure if anyone preferred another option?


ps. on a side note, anyone have issues with nab 2k14 and their astros?

Thanks again for your help,
Brent

I would probably go to their website and do a firmware update. Had you previously done that?
post #5337 of 5434
I did the latest update and everything works great, but I can't adjust the volume for some reason (it worked at first). Is there a reset button or anything?
post #5338 of 5434
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Originally Posted by jbn008 View Post

I did the latest update and everything works great, but I can't adjust the volume for some reason (it worked at first). Is there a reset button or anything?

Not that I am aware of. Does it at least beep in your ear when you are touching the earpad? Meaning, if you get all the way in one direction it should give an annoying beep. If it does, just go all the way in one direction until the beep, then work the opposite way until you are comfortable with the volume.

If it doesn't even beep then maybe you have to return them...
post #5339 of 5434
I'll try that when I get home. Thank you
Which preset do you prefer?
post #5340 of 5434
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Originally Posted by benjamin-benjami View Post

got the plyr 1 in, couple of questions

hooked up the optical and usb and then changed audio on PS4 to optical and dolby 5.1, but audio is still coming through TV? also the "mic" plug doesn't fit the DS4?? thanks in advance

ps4 outputs to all audio sources. you just have to mute your tv/audio system when using the headset.

the cable that comes with the headset is a 2.5mm cable for connecting to the xbox 360 controller. you'd need a 3.5 to 2.5 cable if you wanted to connect to ds4.

is there a reason you want to use a cable anyways? if you power the wireless receiver using the ps4 usb ports you can get wireless voice chat. outside of the annoyance/aesthetics this is the ideal way of getting voice chat on this headset. bummer that there are no back usb ports.
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