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post #3331 of 3674

I finally switched to PowerDVD 12 due to the stability issues I was having with TMT 5 on a completely standard setup (Intel Quadcore Q6600, Nvidia 545GT, Creative Labs Xifi on a Win7 64bit HP media center desktop PC setup).  PowerDVD 12 works very fast and no clunkiness at all on the same setup for bluray 2D and bluray 3D.  It can even handle the most demanding 3D bluray movie while having Aero glass on the desktop in full effect. While I think that TMT 5 works better for some rare formats, PowerDVD 12 seems to do a much better job in terms of application stability; at least on a clean OS with standard/stable hardware.

 

I still use TMT 5 for my old HD-DVD's, but for bluray 2D/3D PowerDVD is ideal for my setup.

post #3332 of 3674
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Originally Posted by tawd1992 View Post

I just tried opening TMT5 by itself with auto refresh rate enabled & it opened & closed fine. Maybe it is a problem with MediaBrowser. I hope this won't be a case where MediaBrowser blames Arcsoft & vice versa.

Is there any solution for this issue? I am facing the same issue on my setup. It seems to be a problem with MB2.6, since if I mount the Blu-Ray iso manually and load it via the TMT5 WMC plug-in I don't see the crash when stoping the movie.
post #3333 of 3674
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Originally Posted by danbez View Post

Is there any solution for this issue? I am facing the same issue on my setup. It seems to be a problem with MB2.6, since if I mount the Blu-Ray iso manually and load it via the TMT5 WMC plug-in I don't see the crash when stoping the movie.

I've been waiting on a solution for about a month now as well. While waiting, I've decided not to update totalmedia to the newest version, nor mediabrowser to 2.6. I am hoping the next version of mediabrowser will fix this, it should be released soon.
post #3334 of 3674
Why are you using iso?
post #3335 of 3674
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Originally Posted by khalid7412002 View Post

I've been waiting on a solution for about a month now as well. While waiting, I've decided not to update totalmedia to the newest version, nor mediabrowser to 2.6. I am hoping the next version of mediabrowser will fix this, it should be released soon.

Do you know if the combination of MB2.5 + the latest TMT works? I can rollback MB2.5, but TMT would be more complicated.

Also, by looking at the MB forum, I don't think this is going to be addressed - they claim that there is nothing that can be done on their side.
post #3336 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Why are you using iso?

you bring up an interesting question, I like ISO's because you have one nice file to manage, storage is just easier, but with MB, having to launch a virtual drive, it does add another layer of complexity.

are you having the same crashing problems as other folks using TS/M2TS folders structure?

I might give this a try when I have time, TMT can read Folder structure, right?
post #3337 of 3674
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Originally Posted by danbez View Post

Do you know if the combination of MB2.5 + the latest TMT works? I can rollback MB2.5, but TMT would be more complicated.
Also, by looking at the MB forum, I don't think this is going to be addressed - they claim that there is nothing that can be done on their side.

I'm running MB 2.53 R, or something like that with the latest version of TMT 5.3.XXX, and I"m having some strange behavior, not a total crash, but I will often get a dialogue box saying windows explorer has stopped working, and I'm wondering, am I'm even using it, is media browser using it on the back end or something. I maybe a number of changes to a my system all at the same time, so I wasn't sure what was actually causing the problem, this could be it.

Maybe I'm confused, but how can launching a program to auto play a certain media file crash your system , I was thinking that MB was some how changing/enhacing your auto play options. I guess I was not aware of the backed complexities that existed with MB.
post #3338 of 3674
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Originally Posted by dbailey75 View Post

you bring up an interesting question, I like ISO's because you have one nice file to manage, storage is just easier, but with MB, having to launch a virtual drive, it does add another layer of complexity.
are you having the same crashing problems as other folks using TS/M2TS folders structure?
I might give this a try when I have time, TMT can read Folder structure, right?

I have always run Folder Structure and never have had any issues with MB/TMT. I know alot of people like MKV and ISO but you read alot of threads about issues with both or atleast complex setting up needed to make them work. I guess the only real draw back to folder structure is that you have fewer player options.
post #3339 of 3674
If arcsoft jason or anybody else is using a mce remote with the mce tmt player, can you please tell me what the dvd menu button does on your remote?

Someone was helping getting it working with xbmc and tmt, and it does work, but my dvd menu button is bringing up the root menu now, I swore it brought up the popup menu before, but since registry stuff was added i have no way of knowing for sure, could someone test what that button does on theirs?
post #3340 of 3674
See http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/r/12052/50077/media-browser-2-6-1-public-pre-release#50077

The MB team are aware that there is an issue with MB crashing when files are closed using TMT5 with auto refresh rate switched on, but are looking for users to submit logs of their systems to assist them in diagnosis

It would be great if Jason of Arcsoft could comment
post #3341 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

If arcsoft jason or anybody else is using a mce remote with the mce tmt player, can you please tell me what the dvd menu button does on your remote?
Someone was helping getting it working with xbmc and tmt, and it does work, but my dvd menu button is bringing up the root menu now, I swore it brought up the popup menu before, but since registry stuff was added i have no way of knowing for sure, could someone test what that button does on theirs?

For most all dvd's, the menu button takes me to the root, play, extras, scene selection, etc, for blu rays, we'll my luck varies, sometimes it's the root, some times nothing, I don't recall if it brings up the POP up menu, but you can also navigate to the popup menu by hitting info and scroll to controls, and it's usually the first option selected, and then hit OK, some time this is easier. Maybe one day i'll test some things out with my PS3 as the player, since I only use my HTPC these days for all media playback, but I've found there to be a lot of inconstancy's with blu rays, and their menu functionality.
post #3342 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

If arcsoft jason or anybody else is using a mce remote with the mce tmt player, can you please tell me what the dvd menu button does on your remote?
Someone was helping getting it working with xbmc and tmt, and it does work, but my dvd menu button is bringing up the root menu now, I swore it brought up the popup menu before, but since registry stuff was added i have no way of knowing for sure, could someone test what that button does on theirs?

I have been complaining about the crashing when stopping mce tmt player for quite some time.

Was told by jason it is due to the way they made it necessary mce tmt player needs to be launched, if its not launched in a certain manner you will get the crash. Jason explained the specifics.

Using xbmc it has been awful, turning off error reporting fixes it, but not really a fix.

I honestly have no idea why arcsoft does some things, i almost wish they used their own product as much as we do. But regardless no program i pay 80 dollars for should be producing crashes depending on "how its launched"
post #3343 of 3674
I am looking for a software player that plays Blurays. I used to use TMT v2.1.6.125. It seem to work well enough during the short time I used it. I have a couple of questions for those that may know:

Does anyone know for sure if the latest version of TMT (5, right?) codecs can be used by other media utilities such as EAC3TO and others? I know somewhere after 1.1 that was not possible anymore.

Does it handle unusual formats correctly, like 6.1?
post #3344 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

I have been complaining about the crashing when stopping mce tmt player for quite some time.
Was told by jason it is due to the way they made it necessary mce tmt player needs to be launched, if its not launched in a certain manner you will get the crash. Jason explained the specifics.
Using xbmc it has been awful, turning off error reporting fixes it, but not really a fix.
I honestly have no idea why arcsoft does some things, i almost wish they used their own product as much as we do. But regardless no program i pay 80 dollars for should be producing crashes depending on "how its launched"
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I have been using tmt with mymovies since 2008 launching both folders and isos for blus and dvds with no issues.
post #3345 of 3674
Are you using automatic refresh rate changing? The crash does not happen if you dont enable auto refresh rate switching. And if you are using MCE addon like media browser or my movies, it should work, sounds to me like my movies is having no issues, while media browser is. As are people who use it as an external player in xbmc. This is what clevoir is mentioning above.


Other users like us using xbmc, dont use mce, we try to launch it externally and thus a crash report....

Jason might have even addressed this entire subject a few pages back, or perhaps on the arcsoft forum.

Here was his reply, he went into a lengthy reply about him asking the team to try tor resolve the issue, with crash error upon exit, but i dont think he got far.... Basically if you were to even double click the MCE tmt player and launch it just by clicking on it, outside of media center, you would get a crash error when you exit it and if you have automatic refresh rate enabled..

Quote from Jason below.


"I believe that was a known issue the team could not resolve without affecting something else more critical negatively. It should not come up with properly working library software as they launch the product through playerloader rather than via the command line (which is what you're simulating by starting the application that way.)"

He did go onto suggest I use a proper mce library add on like media browser (instead of xbmc) that starts the tmt mce player properly through the playerloader and not the command line, so im quite interested and forgive me for saying it but I am pleased they are having this issue as well. I just think its unfortunate you have to launch tmt mce player a certain way if you use refresh rate switching.....and it now appears to only be working with my movies.
Edited by Murilo - 9/3/12 at 5:08am
post #3346 of 3674
I have used it with auto refresh on & off. Neither way causes crashes, although I have some stuttering issues with 23.976 playback so mynormal mode is with auto refresh off. I am going to test some more today with auto refresh on to see if I get crashes.
post #3347 of 3674
^^ In my system with TMT5/MyMovies4/WMC & auto refresh set on it will load and play the movie from folders or ISO files with Reclock on, but will crash WMC when you stop the movie everytime. With RECLOCK off when I attempt to launch the movie it crashes WMC. Since 59.94 refresh rate is what I am used to and I don't notice any issues I will continue to have auto refresh off. Unfortunately, this isn't a solution for those who require 23.976 playback unless you use RECLOCK and are only watching a single movie or don't mind restarting WMC for each movie.
Edited by HTPCat - 9/3/12 at 11:22am
post #3348 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

If arcsoft jason or anybody else is using a mce remote with the mce tmt player, can you please tell me what the dvd menu button does on your remote?
Someone was helping getting it working with xbmc and tmt, and it does work, but my dvd menu button is bringing up the root menu now, I swore it brought up the popup menu before, but since registry stuff was added i have no way of knowing for sure, could someone test what that button does on theirs?

The DVD Menu button goes to the disc menus.

The Info button goes to the MCE (right click) menus.

This is unchanged from past releases.
post #3349 of 3674
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Originally Posted by ArcSoft_Jason View Post

The DVD Menu button goes to the disc menus.
The Info button goes to the MCE (right click) menus.
This is unchanged from past releases.

I never noticed your avatar before - love it smile.gif
post #3350 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

I have been complaining about the crashing when stopping mce tmt player for quite some time.
Was told by jason it is due to the way they made it necessary mce tmt player needs to be launched, if its not launched in a certain manner you will get the crash. Jason explained the specifics.
Using xbmc it has been awful, turning off error reporting fixes it, but not really a fix.
I honestly have no idea why arcsoft does some things, i almost wish they used their own product as much as we do. But regardless no program i pay 80 dollars for should be producing crashes depending on "how its launched"

Unsupported functionality is unsupported for a reason. We never claimed it would work. (In fact, we said the exact opposite: That it will crash. Don't do it.) We can't stop people from reverse-engineering it and/or doing it anyway. You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't seem like a fair critisism to me when we offer an alternative that does work (as far as I can tell so far.)
post #3351 of 3674
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

I never noticed your avatar before - love it smile.gif

Basically stolen from that Intel guy who used to post here...

Since you're here, any chance to look at that issue we discussed recently but on the AMD platform instead of Intel? Still no luck for me "proving" it's TMT specific behavior. /cryptic
post #3352 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Lostclusters View Post

I am looking for a software player that plays Blurays. I used to use TMT v2.1.6.125. It seem to work well enough during the short time I used it. I have a couple of questions for those that may know:
Does anyone know for sure if the latest version of TMT (5, right?) codecs can be used by other media utilities such as EAC3TO and others? I know somewhere after 1.1 that was not possible anymore.
Does it handle unusual formats correctly, like 6.1?

We don't expose our codecs to the system.

Not sure about 6.1. Is there actually a high-profile Blu that includes it? Do you mean on an actual 6.1 speaker layout or transposed to 7.1 speakers? This is the kind of thing that really should be checked rather than taken on faith. Trial versions are your friend.
post #3353 of 3674
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Originally Posted by clevoir25 View Post

See http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/r/12052/50077/media-browser-2-6-1-public-pre-release#50077
The MB team are aware that there is an issue with MB crashing when files are closed using TMT5 with auto refresh rate switched on, but are looking for users to submit logs of their systems to assist them in diagnosis
It would be great if Jason of Arcsoft could comment

I don't use MB, but their team has my email if they have concerns.

I test with the built in W7 Movie Library. To this point, I have been unable to replicate this crash. As I understand it, My Movies and Media Browser should be replicating the Movie Library functionality in their current releases and should behave identically so, in theory, all should crash or none. I haven't seen enough detailed info to understand the exact scope of the problem.
post #3354 of 3674
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Originally Posted by ArcSoft_Jason View Post

Since you're here, any chance to look at that issue we discussed recently but on the AMD platform instead of Intel? Still no luck for me "proving" it's TMT specific behavior. /cryptic

Sorry, I didn't get a chance yet. Does it have to repro on AMD HW to be a "real" problem?
post #3355 of 3674
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Originally Posted by Lostclusters View Post

Does anyone know for sure if the latest version of TMT (5, right?) codecs can be used by other media utilities such as EAC3TO and others? I know somewhere after 1.1 that was not possible anymore.

It depends on how the app is trying to use the codecs. AFAIK eac3to is able to use the latest rev.
post #3356 of 3674
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

Sorry, I didn't get a chance yet. Does it have to repro on AMD HW to be a "real" problem?

Nope, but the breakdown of users heavily favors AMD so it just gives the realness more reality. smile.gif

But if you don't have time or opportunity, no worries. Just thought I'd ask.
post #3357 of 3674
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Originally Posted by ArcSoft_Jason View Post

We don't expose our codecs to the system.
Not sure about 6.1. Is there actually a high-profile Blu that includes it? Do you mean on an actual 6.1 speaker layout or transposed to 7.1 speakers? This is the kind of thing that really should be checked rather than taken on faith. Trial versions are your friend.

All of the The Lord of the Rings are 6.1.
post #3358 of 3674
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Originally Posted by ArcSoft_Jason View Post

Unsupported functionality is unsupported for a reason. We never claimed it would work. (In fact, we said the exact opposite: That it will crash. Don't do it.) We can't stop people from reverse-engineering it and/or doing it anyway. You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't seem like a fair critisism to me when we offer an alternative that does work (as far as I can tell so far.)

Unsupported functionality?


I would call clicking on the mce player pretty normal functionality that should not cause a crash, we discussed this once before but as i mentioned with auto refresh on, and simply clicking on the mce tmt player to launch it with a mouse will even cause it to crash, or assigning a hotkey to launch it on my mce remote.. Reverse engineering is not whats being done, people just dont always use it exactly like arcosft wants and launching a player a certain way should not cause it to crash (IMO), especially something as archaic as a simple double click or a hot key to launch the player (i dont consider any of that reverse engineering). I would gladly use your other player if you would easily allow me to use my mce remote with it....unfortunately this is not the case.

And if i am not mistaken didnt this particular way mce tmt player needs to be launched just change in the last while, it was not always like this and people were not always complaining and having issues.


Their are people who are trying to launch it the way arcosft wants and still cant get it working, the links I posted discuss that.

But its arcsoft choice I guess.... Me the customer and support seem to have a different view on this.
Edited by Murilo - 9/17/12 at 5:29am
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Apparently tmt 6 is coming out next month? Anyone know if it will have cineavia, has arcsoft ever addressed this? With recent increase in adding cineavia i would be curious what arcsoft plans or stance is.
Edited by Murilo - 9/17/12 at 5:26am
post #3360 of 3674
I'm not aware of a new major version of tmt coming out soon. Where'd you see that? And eventually tmt must have Cinavia in order to keep its aacsla license. Just a matter of when, not if. The same goes for winded, as well. All licensed players will be required to have it at some point.

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